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How low can FOX Sports go? World Soccer Talk Podcast

World Soccer Talk is a weekly podcast about watching soccer on TV, online and apps.

In the NEW episode, number 172, Christopher Harris and co-host Kartik Krishnaiyer cover a range of topics including:

• Our thoughts on FOX’s coverage of the Bundesliga return,
• A debate about the potential MLS restart ahead of other US pro team sports,
• Live soccer is heading to ESPN Deportes,
• When all of the soccer leagues are returning,
• Plus letters from you, the listeners, in our mailbag section.

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  1. Daniel DiNatale

    May 24, 2020 at 9:30 am

    Why would they try when they are losing the rights at the end of the season? There’s no point in it. I wouldn’t try either. Air the rest of the games, get whatever revenue from ratings you can, and move on.

  2. Robert

    May 23, 2020 at 9:43 am

    Not sure what will happen with the MLS this year. If this idea of a tournament goes forward the TV ratings should be up since no one can actually go to a game. This is a totally new concept and it will be hard to judge what the ratings mean.

    • Jared

      May 23, 2020 at 12:59 pm

      If FOX got tv rights to this MLS tournament, it would be smart to play right after a Nascar Cup Series Race on Big FOX. If most games are on ABC, FOX, ESPN, and FS1 (If they promote it) the TV ratings will be better. LAFC and Atlanta will need to make it far for the best viewership.

  3. Monte Reed

    May 22, 2020 at 9:55 am

    As I sit here watching the K League on Eleven Sports on FuboTV (I recorded the match so I’m watching it a few hours delayed without knowing the score) there is no commentary on the match. So, Fox can go lower by omitting the World Feed……… 🙂

    • Monte Reed

      May 24, 2020 at 1:43 pm

      K League’s Sunday match on Eleven Sports did have English commentary, I’m assuming world feed.

  4. Leo

    May 21, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    New post of worldsoccertalk, same trashtalking about Bundesliga. You will never change Mr. Harris. How low can worldsoccertalk go? They don’t even bother to put the current logo of Bundesliga in a post (put a 15 years old logo). You have never watch more than 5 games of Bundesliga in your life. English accent. More clear is imposible, You are PL taliban.

    • Robert

      May 23, 2020 at 9:39 am

      The trash was about Fox. I just got time to listen and the talk about the Bundesliga was all positive.

  5. Jared

    May 21, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    FOX is going to air LIVE BOWLING in primetime on the over-the-air network on both June 6th & 13th. FOX putting Bowling over Bundesliga and probably over MLS if it was back.

  6. JP

    May 21, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    Come on, you can’t rail against Fox for almost the entire podcast for things like using the world feed, lack of promotion, no halftime or post game analysis, and inconsistent channels (FS1 or FS2) and then in the same breath proclaim how ESPN is going to treat them so much better.

    If you look at any of the properties on ESPN+ there is the following……world feed, no halftime or post game analysis. Sometimes the halftime promo or end of match recap from the world feed is overtaken by commercials).

    In the case of Serie A where there is at least one match on television, the time slot isn’t consistent, can be 6AM Saturday one week then 12PM Sunday the next, and so on. Then there’s the rotating channel, but most often put on ESPN News which is carried at a lower rate than ESPN or ESPN2. When on TV, there is no bumper programming to speak of, match coverage 10 minutes before kick off begins after whatever show preceded it.

    As for promotion, minimal to non existent. As a Serie A fan you’d think I’d always know what the “Match of the Week” is, but numerous times I’m on ESPN+ looking for a particular match then finally realize I can’t find it because it must be on television.

    My viewing on ESPN+ is 95% Serie A with some Eredivisie. However, the email notifications I received weekly for things to watch always highlighted college sports and UFC 1st. When it finally gets to soccer, it’s usually during a week/weekend with FA Cup or League Cup matches, Serie A an afterthought.

    With Bundesliga joining and only getting four matches on television the entire season, what makes you think ESPN is going to promote it any better than Fox did? For all their issues with lack of promotion and random schedule for pregame coverage, Fox’s coverage of Bundesliga will have done more to gain it awareness than ESPN will.

    You said it yourself, last weekend was the most Bundesliga you’ve watched in the prior years combined because of the time conflict it usually has with EPL. And you’re a huge soccer fan obviously! This is the case for many soccer fans in this country, Bundesliga is nice, but behind other leagues people want to follow, most notably EPL.

    Going to ESPN+ isn’t changing this, if anything making it worse. As it stood, could easily flip to FS1 or FS2 to check in while EPL going on if you wish (and maybe some people would get engrossed in that match and stay). Changing the HDMI source and firing up the ESPN+ app and then searching/loading the match isn’t as consumer friendly to just ‘check in’. And checking in is how most soccer fans follow Bundesliga outside of the few huge matches a year, only the Bundesliga die hards will be flocking to ESPN+, much like the Serie A viewership is mostly die hards.

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