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Divers and Cheats (8.6.15) Is MLS hurting the US Men’s National Team?

Listen to the debut episode of Divers And Cheats, the show hosted by Kartik Krishnaiyer where he tackles a controversial topic that many in the soccer media ignore or don’t want to touch.

This week’s first topic is whether MLS is hurting the US Men’s National Team, or not. He’s joined in the episode by Nate Abaurrea from World Soccer Talk Radio.

Listen to the show via the player above or via this link.

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4 Comments

4 Comments

  1. erico

    August 10, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    I really like the idea of this show, it has potential. However. This first episode has terrible sound quality, painful to listen to, definitely needs some technical tinkering.

    I have to say I was very disappointed by the discussion after putting up with the sound. It was very poorly organized, a bunch of random smaller topics thrown in without successfully connecting them to what I had assumed from the writeup would be the central question. I heard just a lot of rambling talk that didn’t seem to get anywhere and frankly was tedious to listen to, just a jumble of stuff you can browse in the comments section just about anywhere.

    I was really hoping to hear a structured discussion around chosen parameters (your job as editors to pare down the possibilities) that would actually address the topic of whether or not MLS negatively affects the USMNT and how would that be assessed. Even an unscripted discussion still has structure because you are moderating something within a timeframe, and it is your job to make it move along in a meaningful and interesting way. At least if you want people to tune in and enjoy it or engage with some new and interesting ideas. Sorry guys, hate to be critical, but it really needs work.

    • Christopher Harris

      August 10, 2015 at 8:13 pm

      Hi Erico, thanks for the feedback. I agree with the audio quality. We’re working on improving that since it was a first show. As far as content, I’ll make sure to share it with Kartik. Thank you.

    • Kartik Krishnaiyer

      August 10, 2015 at 8:40 pm

      I actually agree with this feedback…first shows always have bumps and from now on we’re prepping guests in advance with a structured discussion.

      • erico

        August 11, 2015 at 12:10 pm

        Hey Kartik, just wanted to reiterate that I think this show could really be a great addition to the site if its done well.

        I’m no expert on podcasts lol but I did spend some time working in the entertainment industry. As I’m sure you guys already know, it takes a HUGE amount of work to put out even a decent 10 minutes of screen time, and I suspect a good podcast is much the same. There are so many crappy ones out there and they often share the same flaws. What works in a conversation with friends just simply doesn’t work in a podcast, something that too many hopeful presenters don’t seem to realize.

        The good ones also have some things in common that I’ve noticed.

        Structure and preparation are key, in order to make sure you cover the best stuff and leave out the less important stuff. A good podcast (to me) is like a presentation, it flows in a way that makes you want to hear more, not jump ahead hoping to get to something worth listening to. And since so much of online amateur journalism seems to be just dull parroting of talking points shaped by big media conglomerates, the presentation of a thoughtful alternative, especially along the lines for this show, needs some really careful planning ahead. Nobody will really want to listen to more of the same, its tedious as hell lol.

        My favorite podcasts always include a list of Show Notes, links to articles that shaped the discussion created by the presenters, and that can be read before, during, and after the podcast. And there is always a way to post comments for further discussion or perhaps followup in later podcasts, and not just tweets or quick putdowns lol. Comment sections are often hideous so preparing how to structure them carefully in advance so that they become an actual attraction instead of a nightmare is pretty key.

        I think it would be useful to listen to your own work and be absolutely ruthless in assessing your strengths and weaknesses as a presenter so that you can plan around that. That is something all professionals do, probably even more of a good idea for skilled amateurs lol. Creating a script for yourself that prevents the flaws from overshadowing the strengths is not cheating, its essential for making things flow and sound effortless and articulate.

        Its hard not to sound pompous in text lol, and I really hesitated to comment at all. But I really hope this is taken as my genuine desire to see this kind of podcast succeed. And please provide a way for people to suggest various topics, I think there will be plenty of them lol.

        If you haven’t already, check out This Is Deep Play, an enjoyable (but not flawless) outsider footie blog from GB, I hope they do more.

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