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EPL Commentator Schedule

EPL Commentators on NBC: Nov. 30 through Dec. 2

For the first time this season, the Premier League plays a consistent schedule of midweek fixtures. This Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, there are ten games lined up in England’s top flight. Additionally, there are significant games in terms of the race for European qualification.

Getting things started on Tuesday, a bottom-of-the-table clash as Newcastle hosts Norwich sets the table for the week. The two clubs sit six and three points, respectively, from safety.

Then, on Wednesday, the bulk of the games take place. There are six games starting at either 2:30 p.m. or 3:15 p.m. ET. Among them, West Ham United looks to stop its two-game skid against Brighton. Also, a rejuvenated and revitalized Aston Villa under Steven Gerrard looks for its biggest result yet at home against Manchester City.

Manchester City made up some ground this past weekend on league leaders Chelsea, but the Sky Blues do trail the London side by just one point.

Also on Wednesday, this season’s first Merseyside Derby occurs between Liverpool and Everton. Liverpool is another team firmly in the title hunt, trailing Chelsea by two points. Everton, who earlier in the season looked to be making a top-four push, is now winless in its last-seven games. In that span, Everton has just two points. It looks to stop that streak against the club’s biggest rival.

Wrapping up action on Thursday, another rivalry sees its first rendition of the season. Manchester United, coming off a draw on the road against Chelsea, hosts an Arsenal team on a hot run of form. After a dismal start to the season, the Gunners sit in fourth. Contrarily, Manchester United’s blazing start to the season now sees them sit eighth in the league.

Despite the midweek fixtures, each team continues action this upcoming weekend.

EPL Commentator Schedule

Tuesday, Nov. 30

2:30 p.m. — Newcastle United vs. Norwich City. Peacock Premium. — Conor McNamara and Rob Green.

3:15 p.m. — Leeds United vs. Crystal Palace. NBCSN, Universo, fubo TVSling BlueHulu + Live TV. — Daniel Mann and Jim Beglin.

Wednesday, Dec. 1

2:30 p.m. — Southampton vs. Leicester City. Peacock Premium. — Jim Proudfoot and Efan Ekoku.

2:30 p.m. — Watford vs. Chelsea. Peacock Premium. — Nigel Adderley and Karen Carney.

2:30 p.m. — West Ham United vs. Brighton and Hove Albion. Peacock Premium. — Chris Wise and Chris Sutton.

2:30 p.m. — Wolverhampton Wanderers vs. Burnley. Peacock Premium. — Pien Meulensteen and David Prutton.

3:15 p.m. — Everton vs. Liverpool. NBCSN, Universo, fubo TVSling BlueHulu + Live TV. — Arlo White and Graeme Le Saux.

3:15 p.m. — Aston Villa vs. Manchester City. Peacock Premium. — Seb Hutchinson and Stephen Warnock.

Thursday, Dec. 2

2:30 p.m. — Tottenham Hotspur vs. Brentford. Peacock Premium. — Mark Scott and Danny Gabbidon.

3:15 p.m. — Manchester United vs. Arsenal. Peacock Premium. — Arlo White and Graeme Le Saux.

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  1. Ra

    December 6, 2021 at 8:53 am

    @JP of course. And the premier properties are so exquisite that Millenials, Gen Z, X, and all those tech savvy folks should be prevented from watching it. A premier property is better enjoyed by zapping an ol’ time remote.

  2. JP

    December 5, 2021 at 9:49 pm

    @Ra, how could ESPN put the “crown jewel” of auto racing on their low cost streamer service too? All premier properties must require a cable package too, that’s how you know it’s the best and everything else just a lesser competition. 😉

  3. Ra

    December 5, 2021 at 7:52 pm

    The last race of the season (with Hamilton and Ver both with the same # of points) will also be aired on ESPN+ based on the listing in the app.
    Take notice and learn how it’s done, NBC.

  4. Ra

    December 5, 2021 at 7:02 pm

    I already had access to it through another service, but noticed that ESPN+ added the live F1 GP today (which was great btw).
    Well done, ESPN+!

  5. Hans

    December 5, 2021 at 11:08 am

    While there are several sites on the web that list the different games, the point is still valid, where on my OTT device do I need to go to find all the EPL games. On my Roku & Google TV Chromcast I go to the Paramount+ app for all things Serie A and UCL, UEL, UEL Conference. Or I go to the ESPN+ app for all things Bundesliga, La Liga and Cup games. For the EPL I need a browser to find out where is what on which platform, that is still POOR compared to the other services. Even ESPN unifies games if they are on cable and ESPN+ I can stay on my Roku or Chromcast and don’t have to consult a website.
    All this indicates Comcast was late to the game and is unwilling to change their business model, but they have to live by their choice. Let me quote something from 1989 that is very much applicable today:
    Gorbachev’s historic visit to East Germany on the occasion of the GDR’s 40th anniversary in 1989, met with the SED politburo. In his remarks, Gorbachev urged reform and uttered what would become one of the most famous phrases of the period: “Life punishes those who come too late.”
    Comcast take note of this principle Life will punish those who come too late and you are very late to the streaming platform, that is why the streamers are confident unless you reform Life will punish you.

  6. greg

    December 5, 2021 at 9:54 am

    @Hans – The official EPL site adjusts to your location & time zone & shows match times and network (NBCSN, USA, NBC or Peacock) as soon as NBC has decided. It’s usually displayed before the NBC Sports tweet about it. Often it’s showing network for the following match week while the current one is still on-going.

  7. Mercator

    December 4, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    @MIB Fan – I do not refuse to acknowledge PLTV, but this is nothing to do with NBC. It’s produced by the league and made available to them, any broadcaster would make it available. In fact, I checked today and I’m able to get some PLTV content on demand from a foreign broadcaster. Peacock hasn’t done the bare minimum to make this useful to fans by putting it on demand. It hasn’t even included a proper guide so you know when to tune in for what.

    @Nosferatu – So just to be clear, you are saying that despite ESPN+ offering La Liga and Bundesliga for $5, and Paramount offering Seria A and UCL for $5 dollars, it is reasonable for Peacock to require a cable subscription in order to get just the other EPL games? This makes it at least $35 to get the EPL, 7x the cost of Seria A/UCL or LaLiga/Bundesliga. Do we get a premium product for this price? The league is great sure (7x as great through…:/) but NBC doesn’t offer much beyond that. Again 10 minutes lead ins on matchdays. 30fps maximum, never mind not having 4k. Lacking content NBC apparently makes free on some other third party platform. We know the EPL only cost NBC 3x as much as ESPN paid for La Liga, so a 7x price differential is not justified by what they pay for the rights. It’s not justified for a subpar and disorganised experience on Peacock.

    @SteveK – I mean those all sound like valid questions. NBC has one league, one they are charging 7x as much for, why on earth would we not want 60fps (or 4K!!) for the matches? Why would we not want all the EPL content on the one app instead of on Youtube. We should be able to pay a price to stream all the games from NBC, instead of going through a cable middleman. There obviously is a price at which NBC would make just as much from this as they would from a cable subscriber. Millions are leaving cable every year (yes, even accounting for the YTTV and Fubo people) and if you don’t give these people an option to stream they won’t watch the match at all. This is why I find your strident defence of Comcast so bizarre – the more difficult and expensive it is to watch the league, the less it will grow and the less exposure it will get. Many more people would watch, learn and enjoy the EPL if Peacock wasn’t a trash app (not my opinion, check paying subscribers). The same is true if NBC offered a way to stream all the games without cable, or made replays immediately available instead of waiting until the evening. This absolutely ruins the interest of many potential fans, it makes it difficult to recruit new fans when you tell them to get a cable package or jog on (ask the MLB or NBA), and ultimately restricts the game to a class of people happy to pay effectively $400 a year to watch one football league (not most people, certainly not the younger fans the EP talks up). You can say we just complain but I have yet to hear a good reason why NBC cannot do some of these simple things that would incredibly improve the experience of fans who are paying a 7x premium for this Peacock nonsense. Why is there no cable login on Peacock? Maybe Disney is just as evil as Comcast, but one sure is dumber because ESPN has this sorted years ago and it makes a huge difference.

    @Streaming Wars – ESPN (cable) lost something like 8 million subscribers in the last year (I.e. 8 million people got rid of cable). How good is EPL’s exposure in 3-5 years when these trends continue and half the games still require a cable subscription? You are losing these viewers. Every other football league save Liga MX (lol) and MLS is fully available to stream, and MLS may be fully available to stream after this new deal who knows. It’s not good for the EPL (and more importantly not helpful for Arsenal fans) to have half the matches on cable as subscribers leave and the other half on a terrible app no one seems willing to pay for. People overestimate the average EPL fan here, they aren’t going to pay for cable just to get the games. NFL/CFB are on broadcast TV, every other sport is basically take it or leave it and the EPL is going to be burned just like MLB, NBA and anyone else trying to force fans to pay for a cable subscription to watch a few games. As bad as Paramount may be technically, I know several people who pay for it. I cannot say the same for Peacock, the only people I know who use it get it for free with Xfinity. It doesn’t bode well for the future growth, distribution and promotion of the league.

  8. dave

    December 4, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    To add data for Disney, operating income for the latest fiscal year and quarter (each ending September 30, 2021):
    * Disney DTC loss of $1.7 billion FY (~40% better than year ago), loss of $0.6 billion QTR (~70% worse than year ago)
    * Disney Linear profit of $8.4 billion FY (~10% lower than year ago), profit of $1.6 billion QTR (~10% lower than year ago)
    Per Disney press release, “Direct-to-Consumer revenues for the quarter increased 38% to $4.6 billion and operating loss increased from $0.4 billion to $0.6 billion. The increase in operating loss was due to higher losses at Disney+, and to a lesser extent, ESPN+, partially offset by improved results at Hulu”

  9. Ra

    December 4, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    @Streaming wars. Your $10B number does not make sense. Even the order of magnitude is wrong. Do you care to share the source or did you simply make up that number?

  10. Stevek

    December 4, 2021 at 5:04 pm

    Good point Streaming wars, seems to me and many other rational observers here that both Disney and Comcast are in no hurry to turn off the cable subscriber revenue tap, that Peacock and ESPN+, even though the latter has been around about a year and half longer, are both still nascent ventures, and just like Comcast Disney is in no hurry to shift its premium sports properties over to ESPN+ because they know that’s not where the money is for the near term. That’s why Disney just did a big rights deal with Comcast this week, it, in effect, is helping Comcast maintain the value proposition for its cable customers and keeping the Comcast cable money flowing into the Disney coffers. I guess that’s what Hans calls an agonizing twist for a cabler. The reality is Comcast is no more or less evil than Disney, they are co-conspirators and they are both trying to figure out what the streaming future will hold, albeit very slowly. That’s why you need USA in addition to Peacock for the PL, that’s why in order to watch the Euros legally this past summer you needed a cable subscription for games on ABC and ESPN, it’s why you still cannot watch Monday Night Football on ESPN+ unless you already get ESPN through a cable package. (I guess it is very nice of Comcast to put all those Saturday NBC Premier League games and Sunday NFL games on Peacock, isn’t it?)

  11. Streaming wars

    December 4, 2021 at 3:31 pm


    Q: Do you have any idea how much $ Disney is losing on ESPN+ alone?

    A: Over $10 billion/year

    Granted, Disney has shifted many inflated sports media rights contracts from ESPN, Inc. to Disney Direct-to-Consumer (formerly BAMTech, which operates ESPN+) in order to make the financials at ESPN, Inc. look better. ESPN+ is supposed to lose money during the start-up phase.

    What Comcast is losing on PeacockTV is chump change compared to what Disney is losing on ESPN+.

    One of the so-call “laws” of Financial Market “Physics” is:


    During November 2020-October 2021, stock valuation did NOT matter to the Wallstreetbets sub-Reddit “mo-MEME-tum” players.

    Guess what?

    The Federal Reserve Bank will begin “tapering” its purchase of bonds soon.

    Valuation now matters, and you have seen what hedge funds have done during the past two weeks.

    Rank-and-file workers behind the scenes at ESPN, Inc. and NBC Sports Group need to watch their backs, as their bosses will start laying off people when fat cat investors demand cost cutting…

  12. Hans

    December 4, 2021 at 2:18 pm

    Poor laddie, you are resorting now to name callings plus poor arithmetic this all smacks a bit of desperation and misplaced loyalty to me.
    Keep up laddie, as already mentioned here, I don’t pay for broadcast TV as I have OTA. You may not pay for Peacock as a Xfinity subscriber, the fact is Peacock had lost over $520 million with a revenue of $230 million for Q3. No one needs to be proficient at math to realize that this is a huge and devastating loss.
    Because most subscribers choose that free tier, people are missing out on Peacock’s premium content. That’s why Peacock is bleeding money and the churn rate is the highest in the industry. So while you as an Xfinity subscriber get a $5 discount and basically get Peacock Premium for free, The bottom line is that Comcast is actually subsidizing Peacock to the tune of $7 to $8 based on the financial loss they take on the streaming service.
    Comcast may just be using your sense of math, 2.7 Billion for 6 years to an audience averaging 800’000 viewers while loosing subscribers. Again as mentioned many times until 2024 or whenever Comcast decides to sell their Hulu shares we, the streamers are in for some entertaining moments while the cablers have to observe some agonizing twists.
    Since numbers don’t lie, especially in the EPL table, Comcast decided after the last quarter to no longer publish Peacock subscriber numbers, to be expected. What we have here is a failure to communicate 😆

  13. Ra

    December 4, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    @SteveK I agree. The increase is not enough. People should pay at least $1,200/yr to watch such an amazing property.. that would bring justice to the world.. LOL

  14. Stevek

    December 4, 2021 at 1:33 pm

    Hans the pirate already broke this dastardly news, Ra, in real world terms what this amounts to is cable tv packages going up about $3 and internet plans going up about $3, and what most upset Hans was the $3 increase to the broadcast TV fee, because no one but morons or chumps would pay this when they could get all this for free OTA.

    If you have Comcast internet you are getting Peacock for free, so starting in January the “price” of Peacock effectively just increased from zero to $3 a month. A crying shame.

  15. Ra

    December 4, 2021 at 1:22 pm

    Good news for those of you who think you should be paying more to Comcast. They are finally increasing their cable prices. They should also increase the price of Peacock to bring you even more happiness. Based on what I read here, many believe they are not paying enough for such an amazing product. LOL. Maybe you can even ask them if they accept donations beyond all those unreasonable fees.

    Comcast Will Increase Cable Costs and Fees in January 2022
    Perhaps the biggest story of the week came from Comcast, which disclosed plans to raise rates in January of 2022. The company cited rising costs for broadcast TV and regional sports as key factors in its decision to increase prices.

  16. SteveK

    December 4, 2021 at 9:40 am

    “With EPL going to USA in 2022, fans can choose to go down a level in cable packages since they won’t need to pay for sports tiers that carry NBCSN.”

    This won’t matter one bit to the anti-Comcast cabal here, MIB Fan, until all 380 PL games are in one place like the lesser European leagues the cabal will bitch and moan.

    “if you look at the NHL, NBA, and even MLS, you have to think of it this way: we’re all out-of-market fans, which means we need cable for the “national games” and a streaming service for the others. I’ve paid for for years (and now ESPN+) and until T-Mobile started offering it for free, so maybe my perspective is unique, but that’s what it feels like to me. And the fact is, the Premier League is the only European football league with the cache in the U.S. to demand this sort of treatment. It sure seems like the league itself wanted to be on TV still and not just streaming, so here we are for six more years.”

    A fair and rational perspective Nosferatu. I’ll add, though, that now that Comcast knows they’ll have the product for another 6 years we should expect improvements in delivery and organization. That’s where Mercator is on strongest ground, he wants to see technical improvements, higher quality transmissions and I’d appreciate that, too, even though I’m perfectly satisfied with my big screen and Apple TV 4 HD. It is not unreasonable to expect some new method within Peacock to handle viewing of all 380 games, to acknowledge that if you are paying for NBC and USA all those games and value added content like Rebecca and the Robbie’s will be unlocked within the app. Hopefully that will come with the Peacock revamp for next season.

  17. SteveK

    December 4, 2021 at 8:59 am

    Love me some Lee Dixon, too, John, I’ve also felt his absence on Handbrake Off, it was my favorite podcast when he was on with Ian Stone, Amy Lawrence and James McNicholas.

    “Mercator: You seem to refuse to acknowledge that PLTV exists on Peacock, which fills in the gaps (and is much cheaper for NBC to just retransmit) of coverage. I often switch over to Gameday Live Extra after NBC’s coverage ends.”

    Nice post, Nosferatu, it does seem sometimes that nothing is ever good enough for the Comcast deniers on this site, first it’s why don’t they do a BBC style Match of the Day program, then you point out that there’s no 3pm blackout here and all the games are available live so no one needs to wait for that type of program on a Saturday or Sunday because everyone can watch their team live unlike in the UK, then it’s why aren’t the Sky programs available on Peacock and you point out that PL TV has 24/7 content all week and then the deniers shift the goalposts yet again to complain why isn’t that content available on demand, then wait, what, 6 of those programs including the superb Kelly & Wrighty show and the main daily PL programs are all available on demand all week? Then it’s why isnt all of the NBC YouTube crap ALSO available on demand at Peacock followed by why doesn’t Peacock automagically insert Rebecca and the Robbie’s into halftime of every Peacock game. If that isn’t enough the Luddites and pirates pull out the old standby to complain that navigating the Peacock app is so difficult which is poppycock, one click from the home page drops you into the PL Hub where everything is clearly displayed…matches currently live top row…any of which can be paused and rewound by the way…followed very clearly by what’s upcoming and when and what will be available on demand and when.

    The fact this is all so beautifully logically and quickly displayed and works equally well with a remote or an iPad is irrelevant to those who insist that for their 5 bucks a month all 380 games should be here, live and immediately available on demand or immediately available to restart.

  18. Nosferatu

    December 4, 2021 at 3:23 am

    You can go onto NBC Sports’ own website to find where all the Premier League games are airing this weekend. I won’t bother linking because I prefer using WST, but all it takes is a five second Google search.

    I’d also like to say that the comparisons between the Premier League and the Champions League is sort of ridiculous (in terms of cost and all games being on one platform). The fact is, as high-profile as the CL might be, the much lower amount of games played alone by any given team–and the fact that these games are on in the middle of the working day for most Americans–mean that it should be viewed on a completely different plane than the PL.

    When looking at the cost of viewing all PL games, I don’t think the CL or Bundesliga or La Liga are apt comparisons; I think we’re better served to use American leagues for comparative purposes. The NFL is an outlier, but if you look at the NHL, NBA, and even MLS, you have to think of it this way: we’re all out-of-market fans, which means we need cable for the “national games” and a streaming service for the others. I’ve paid for for years (and now ESPN+) and until T-Mobile started offering it for free, so maybe my perspective is unique, but that’s what it feels like to me. And the fact is, the Premier League is the only European football league with the cache in the U.S. to demand this sort of treatment. It sure seems like the league itself wanted to be on TV still and not just streaming, so here we are for six more years.

    And finally, I’d like to add that Paramount+ still gets on my nerves. For instance, this Tuesday I have to go in for a minor procedure at 3 p.m. ET. Let’s say I’m home by 4:30. I’d like to rest up and watch a game, but do I really want to only watch the last few minutes of a game? I can’t start a game from the beginning or rewind a game in progress still with that app. Wait for the replay? The 3 p.m. games probably won’t be up until around 8! Not to mention there have been a couple instances where EL and ECL replays I’ve wanted to watch never were posted. I’m not paying a lot for this service, and it’s all in one place, but I’m still not at all happy with it. I’ll still take the NBC/Peacock situation over it any day right now.

  19. Jim

    December 3, 2021 at 8:13 pm

    I haven’t seen anyone else mention it but I thought Pien Meulensteen was good, despite her game not being enthralling. I’d be happy to hear her again, unlike the Karen Carneys and Andres Cantors of the world.

  20. Jon

    December 3, 2021 at 8:01 pm

    However the Lazio v Udinese game made its way onto this thread, it was indeed hugely entertaining. A lot of entertainment in the Italian league with teams like these and Atalanta.

  21. John Culea

    December 3, 2021 at 5:32 pm

    Yes, I am back, filing another protest over no Lee Dixon for Saturday-Monday games.
    Thanks to Stevek for speculating the reason for his absence may be hair implants. Cantor and Martin “Nasal” Tyler make me want to pull my hair out.
    I won’t get into the whole “taking a knee” and “Rainbow Laces” thing the PL is bombarding us with, but it was over-the-top and comical when Arlo White said that a player was retying his “rainbow laces” when the laces were red.

  22. dave

    December 3, 2021 at 4:30 pm

    I echo the sentiment from Christopher Harris that “There’s so much soccer to choose from that it’s hard to watch everything. That’s a good problem to have!”
    One of my favorite things about WST is the schedule of games from multiple leagues. It often triggers me to see if I can rearrange my day to catch a match that looks especially interesting.

  23. MIB Fan

    December 3, 2021 at 3:39 pm

    @Mercator: You seem to refuse to acknowledge that PLTV exists on Peacock, which fills in the gaps (and is much cheaper for NBC to just retransmit) of coverage. I often switch over to Gameday Live Extra after NBC’s coverage ends.
    Paramount+ provides no shoulder programming at all for non-Serie A leagues. It’s great that I am watching a random Scottish Championship match on a Friday afternoon or even tune in on weekends, as someone who may want to follow these other leagues Paramount+ is carrying, I have nowhere to start.
    With EPL going to USA in 2022, fans can choose to go down a level in cable packages since they won’t need to pay for sports tiers that carry NBCSN.

  24. Lou

    December 3, 2021 at 2:48 pm

    @RA “Best game yesterday was the Bahia-Atl Mineiro” “I haven’t seen anything about the game in WST” You mentioned it, so it’s officially covered on WST….Happy now?

  25. locofooty

    December 3, 2021 at 10:29 am

    Should’ve closed the thread with Han’s comments lol. Bravo

  26. Ra

    December 3, 2021 at 9:57 am

    I can’t comment on this one. I don’t watch any Lazio games on moral grounds…

    https //

  27. Ra

    December 3, 2021 at 9:09 am

    Best game yesterday was the Bahia-Atl Mineiro game that 👑 Atlético as the new Champions. They came back 3-2 after scoring 3 goals in 5 minutes. Very dramatic for both teams, as Bahia is almost relegated and Atlético was trying to avoid losing another Championship because of a few points.
    Yet, I haven’t seen anything about the game in WST. I believe the site should be rebranded EPLsoccertalk.

    • Christopher Harris

      December 3, 2021 at 9:10 am

      Best game I saw yesterday was Lazio 4-4 Udinese. There’s so much soccer to choose from that it’s hard to watch everything. That’s a good problem to have!

  28. Hans

    December 3, 2021 at 12:14 am

    WOW, Sparks are flying here and I don’t want to miss out on the entertainment. Hello, Cablers and hello streamers.
    1. Where do you go to find ALL EPL matches scheduled for this weekend? WTS is the ONLY place to go to and find out where on the three platforms they are on and when. Grade: POOR.
    2. Where do I go to find ALL Bundesliga & La Liga matches scheduled for this weekend? ESPN+ Grade: GOOD.
    Where do I go to find ALL the Serie A matches scheduled this weekend? Paramount+ Grade: GOOD.
    Where do I go to find ALL the UCL, UEL and UEL Conf matches scheduled for the next weeks? Paramount+ Grade: GOOD.
    3. Where do I go to find ALL Soccer matches in ONE place scheduled? IPTV services like Smooth Streams, Jarvis and Primestreams. Grade: MOST EXCELLENT.
    If some dumb pirates and clever coders get it together and present ALL Soccer matches in one place with easy navigation and ease of use, what does that tell you about a multi billion dollar company acting like amateurs? Only one thing, they are playing you for being dumb and stupid.
    I don’t give a crap about legality when a corporation makes a stupid business decision that effects their bottom line, that’s on them and if they try to milk the customers because of their error, my good will just ended and I find other ways.
    “OTA antennas and HD Homeruns if you are lucky to live near and have clear line of sight to the towers”
    Your lack of technical knowledge shows I don’t have clear line of sight and live 50 miles away from the towers. I bought an outside antenna that is in my attic under the roof and can pick up signals 100 miles away. HDHomerun is a onetime expenditure and has served me for almost 10 years the best $100 I invested in live TV.
    “Or just convince yourself you are a fan of a lesser league.”
    Oh SNAP, the elitist peaking through there in you SteveK. I am sure you did not make that assumption with having Latinos in mind and it is ONLY THE league in the eyes of EPL fan boys. Just because they have the three best coaches in the world and throw money at problems because their recruitment sucked, does not make them BEST. That is in the eye of the beholder who supports teams for personal reasons, but it will to some degree play out in the UCL.
    As many times already pointed out here, everyone has to live with the choices they make. Comcast has a 2.7 billion dollar obligation for the next 6 years on a property that averages 800k viewers?? I reward financially any innovations, services and programs developed by individuals who want to fill a need. I am also in the position where I can splurge thousands of dollars on what I want in my home theater. However, I refuse to reward anyone who takes me for a chump, Comcast has mastered that business. You pay $50 in fees to them before you select your basic cable package.

  29. Mercator

    December 2, 2021 at 7:45 pm

    @MIB Fan – Yes, you absolutely can complain about the technical issues on Paramount+. I haven’t had an issue but I know it wasn’t working during the last CL round and that’s unacceptable for live sport. But it’s $5 and they give you every match, for that price I don’t think perfection can be expected. But for Peacock and an entire cable subscription, that’s several multiples more and people are obviously going to expect to be able to view the content they are paying significantly more for. NBC wants to say the EPL is a top product, but the app showing half the games is bottom of the barrel? NBC paid 3x as much for EPL as La Liga…but is charging fans 6x as much to watch the games? A 10 minute pre-game on matchdays, really? I wouldn’t mind the premium pricing if we were getting a premium product – all games on one app (even with cable login), 60fps, at least 30 minute pre-post game on match days, etc. ESPN does much of this for La Liga, we should expect the same from NBC for the EPL.

    Also, Arsenal aren’t in the CL or EL so when CBS screws up they aren’t screwing up Arsenal matches.

  30. MIB Fan

    December 2, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    @Mercator: one can likewise complain about the technical issues that Paramount+. There are so many random buffer moments during a live match. There are limited functionality on XFinity Flex because the app had so many live stream issues that they decided to remove Serie A live matches from that device. You also have to downgrade your browser’s security settings in order to stream matches. Paramount+ is no saint.

  31. Mercator

    December 2, 2021 at 5:42 pm

    @SteveK – Correct but the CL was also on CBSSN, and again you are only paying $5. EPL is several multiples of that price, I have missed several Arsenal matches due to technical errors (not recently), and the games are not on NBCSN if Peacock fails. There is a huge difference and I don’t understand how you are fine with Peacock just not having half the NBC/SKY EPL content Comcast produces. It would make it more cluttered? Then organise it better, how can you be arguing you are GLAD there is LESS EPL content on Peacock? I will continue to complain until they get it right – there should be more than a 10 minute lead in on matchdays. They should be streaming in 60 fps. You should be able to pay one price, whatever it is, to watch all the games, and if NBC or Sky produce EPL content it should be available on Peacock and not just Youtube. This is not ground breaking stuff.

    All we want is a proper presentation and distribution of the league (I don’t even care about the league, I want the Arsenal matches). They are not doing that now and to add insult to injury, they rip you off for it as well charging several multiples of any other broadcaster (beyond the multiple they actually pay for the rights). Call me crazy but I think a football fan complaining on a football website about a poor broadcaster ripping fans off is a bit more par for the course than spending hours defending Comcast.

    Anyway, poor showing from Arsenal. Crazy decision from O which cost us the game, but he was good otherwise. Same for Tavares, cost us a goal but put in a decent performance otherwise. We have obviously done an Ozil with Auba. Embarrassment up there, and then we replace him with Nkeitah. No bueno.

  32. JP

    December 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm

    @Ra, fascist or not you missed one insane match!! You’ll be happy to know Udinese got an 8th minute stoppage time goal to tie it at 4…..after giving up a 3-1 HT lead.

  33. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 4:30 pm

    @Ra. Nope, just for the EPL. I just dislike chronic, endless complaining. Glad you’re happy. So am I.

  34. Ra

    December 2, 2021 at 4:21 pm

    There are some hardcore Peacock fetishists here… 🙂
    For me, it is worth the $2.50/mo to watch a casual match when there is no Bundesliga or only that fascist Serie A team.
    No more than that though. I am already have 99% of my needs met with ESPN+, Paramount and SlingWorldSports

  35. SteveK

    December 2, 2021 at 4:12 pm

    Mercator, serious question, how can the value proposition for a unicorn be poor?

  36. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 3:43 pm

    @Mercator. So… you plan on complaining for an additional six years or the length of the contract that NBC has with the EPL about matches not all aired live or available immediately after on $5 per month Peacock app? Got it. I hope you can find some joy in your misery. I am being sincere here. Really.

    Btw… i also have not had any of the technical issues you have described with Peacock.

  37. SteveK

    December 2, 2021 at 3:35 pm

    No technical errors with that “free” Peacock app for me last month, though, whereas there were two Champions League match days ruined by the Paramount+ app completely shutting down, each outage was documented here and they were confirmed by other users.

    I really do appreciate how reliable the $5 Peacock app has been, and how easy it is to navigate to the PL Hub for the games. Some people like the highlights there, and how easy it is to see all the on demand replays, for me it’s just the live games. No hunting, no distractions, no other crap to wade through, it is effortless on the Apple TV. The last thing I want is more clutter from YouTube there. It’s like iTunes used to be great, it did one thing extremely well, it managed and played your music digitally, then Apple started adding things to it, it started managing everything, stores, podcasts, movies, tv shows, video, etc. much like the horrible user interface of ESPN+ today, and everything suffered including people who just wanted it to manage their music.

  38. Mercator

    December 2, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    @SteveK – Correct, so that’s what, $33 bucks a month to watch the EPL? Paramount+ is $5 dollars. ESPN+ is like $7. This explains why you hear less complaints about Paramount+ when it has technical issues, it’s 1/6th the price (and thats putting aside all the other football on Paramount+ compared to nothing on Peacock but EPL). I’m not here complaining about the price, I’m just explaining to some of you why people rightfully have less patience with Peacock, it’s several multiples more expensive. Comcast is paying what, 3x as much per year as La Liga? So why is it 7x the cost to get EPL from NBC? I guess we should all just keep quiet about this and never bring up the value proposition, which is poor. I guess we should never point out the PAID Peacock service doesn’t even provide NBC EPL content available on youtube.

    Peacock is not “very reliable and mildly frustrating” Peacock has ruined entire match weeks with its technical errors. I have yet to find a match week where the broadcast is not better abroad, if only because they broadcast in 60/55 fps and start the commentary more than 10 minutes before a match.

  39. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 3:19 pm

    @JP. And speaking of crusade…. I am pretty sure that describes exactly what Mercator is doing, using this site for it. No question about it. And i might find it strange that you would comment on this topic when you admit you have no horse in this race (smile). So… as you said too, carry on.

  40. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    @JP. Its not personal at all. Look at it as us perhaps trying to temper and balance the extremist view of negativity that doesn’t warrant it. Not at all. Not for that cost.

  41. SteveK

    December 2, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    It’s about $400 a year for a cord cutter to be a legal Premier League completist, a Peacock annual subscription plus about 10 months of Sling Blue. That’s the price of entry for this season, the last of the current rights package. If you don’t want to be a completist, you have plenty of less expensive alternatives, including VPNs, piracy, OTA antennas and HD Homeruns if you are lucky to live near and have clear line of sight to the towers, you could also move to a foreign country where the entire Premier League is on some $10 month streamer. Probably a lot easier to cough up the $400 and switch between two very reliable if mildly frustrating apps for the rest of this year. Or just convince yourself you are a fan of a lesser league.

  42. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 3:04 pm

    @JP. One further comment. I wasn’t attempting to be smug. Not at all.

    I just can’t get over the YEARS of repeated complaints about the same exact thing over and over and over. Its why i simply conclude that people are envious they don’t have something they could choose to have and just stay ticked off about what they don’t have. Thats amazing to me.

    Life is too short to stay mad for years about something. Get over it, make your choices and move on.

  43. Mercator

    December 2, 2021 at 3:02 pm

    @Michael F – I was satisfied before Peacock. I’ve said this numerous times, the problem is clear and no I will not stop complaining they do an awful job. Why is there only 10 minutes of pregame today? A car auction is on NBCSN and Peacock is showing nothing until 10 minutes before a match. It’s poor – I tried peacock today because Amazon UK is only 25fps for me so I might as well watch Peacock since the other broadcaster doesn’t have better frame rate. Nope, back to Amazon, their pregame starts more than 10 minutes before the match. I watch on an Apple TV 4K, it’s a terrible and disorganised app, I don’t want 2 minute clips on autoplay, just show me the full pre-game or post-game segment. They do this on youtube, mystery why they can’t put those clips on Peacock (but I could say the same about Sky content).

    You asked why no one complains about paramount+. Well it’s because all the matches are on it, of course we will complain less, it’s $5 dollars for everything, not $45. I know that fact is inconvenient, but when consumers are effectively paying 8-10x as much to watch one league, they are going to be much more upset when the app fails to broadcast.

    If it makes you feel better, the subtitles are well done on peacock. Not overly large and blocky, so there is that.

  44. JP

    December 2, 2021 at 3:01 pm

    @MichaelF/SteveK, I don’t care about Peacock, only giving what the main point of contention has been for most.

    Your continued defense of EPL/Comcast come across as extremely personal, so will ask again, do you have a vested interest in either??

    Otherwise, your crusade to combat every negative comment about Peacock or NBC or Comcast is beyond strange. I don’t jump up and down in protest when negative comments are made about Paramount+ or ESPN+. They’re just services I use, doesn’t matter if someone else doesn’t like it. If the leagues I followed went to another service would drop them for the new one. What is your obsession to carry water for Comcast/Peacock/NBC??

    Carry on.

  45. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    @SteveK Amen!

  46. SteveK

    December 2, 2021 at 2:51 pm

    “you know full well the complaints about Peacock (Comcast) is how they force EPL fans to keep both cable and subscribe to Peacock for access to matches”

    JP…But this isn’t a legitimate complaint anymore…everyone really needs to get over this…comparing what Comcast did with the Premier League, the crown jewel of club soccer, with what other rights holders do with lesser leagues like the German, Spanish or Italian leagues is tired and irrelevant. Comcast paid the big money for the big prize, fans of the PL can watch every any of the 380 games live legally if they want to, Comcast now knows they have it for the next 6 years, too, so either pony up and hope for whatever improvements that matter to us or shut up. We are in a holding pattern right now, the end of a cycle, we have the relaunch of Peacock for the Olympics to look forward to and starting next season I suspect there will be improvements to the way they handle the PL but we won’t know for sure a long while.

    There should be a moratorium here on tired Comcast is evil for making us subscribe to cable and Peacock complaints.

  47. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 2:49 pm

    @JP I knew that would last comment of mine would get the ire of someone. Listen, this continuous echo chamber rant of all games are not on Peacock blah blah blah has been going for YEARS now. How about live in reality and face reality. The business structure has been set and the provider is not changing it. They never intended to and won’t.

    What is ridiculous when a commentary of how good or bad an app is with features and content, turns into… ‘it’s so awful, because all the matches are not available live on it.’

    yea. We know. We all know. And have known… for YEARS. Can we can on with life now??

  48. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 2:34 pm

    @SteveK Exactly. Just as NBC pointed previously beforehand numerous times when today’s pregame would start today on Peacock.

  49. SteveK

    December 2, 2021 at 2:33 pm

    At least Mercator is using Peacock currently, Michael, we can be thankful for that, what I really love are the tired complaints about using Peacock from people who tried it once “many years ago” and haven’t used it since.

  50. SteveK

    December 2, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    Pregame for Spurs started at 2:20 and was clearly noted in the app. Pregame for ManU Arsenal starts at 2:30, also clearly noted in the Peacock app.

    Remind us how you access Peacock, Mercator, because I don’t want to use your platform, my experience with Peacock on the Apple TV seems so much better than yours.

  51. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 2:28 pm

    @Mercator I can see you are already p*ssed, that is obvious. An angry consumer that is never satisfied. There is 24/7 PL channel and several shows (not all of course) of this PL shoulder programming content available on-demand. There is also studio coverage of analysis (boot room, David Ornstein updates etc) that you conveniently choose to omit. But with your rigid viewpoint of things and anger toward the provider that covers your favorite league, I am pretty convinced that nothing is going to satisfy you.

  52. Mercator

    December 2, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    @Michael F – What are you talking about? There is nothing on Peacock throughout the week except for the PL channel, which any broadcast should air given its produced and handed to them by the league. Peacock can’t even manage to get that content on demand, the one useful thing it could do. It’s 15 minutes until spurs kickoff and an hour until Arsenal – Man United and there is no pregame on! Or at least I cannot find it on the mess of an app. I go to youtube for the NBC content, I looked yesterday for commentary on the matches and couldn’t find anything on Peacock but extended highlights. In fact, the commentary was all there on the NBC Sports youtube, never could find it on Peacock. I’ve been using the Peacock lately because these matches are on Amazon in the UK, and so I can confirm it is still trash although kudos to them for adding pause and rewind.

    Paramount+ isn’t much better technically but no one complains much because CBSSN shows CL (this is usually how I watch via Goalzo) and they also show everything on Paramount+ without requiring cable. I’m paying 5 bucks, the app may not work all the time fair enough. But when I’m paying 5 bucks and an entire cable subscription for your vaunted league, the app better work or I’m going to be pissed.

  53. locofooty

    December 2, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    George Carlin to the Comcrapstic lovers: And if you’re a customer, whoa… that’s when you get the really big smile! Customers always get the really big smile as the businessman carefully positions himself directly behind the customer and unzips his pants and proceeds to service the account! “I’m servicing this account… this customer needs service.”

  54. JP

    December 2, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    @MichealF, you know full well the complaints about Peacock (Comcast) is how they force EPL fans to keep both cable and subscribe to Peacock for access to matches. Not just overflow matches like it used to be on Gold or free on NBCSportsdotcom prior to Gold, but matches where nothing else was being shown on cable at the same time except auto auctions.

    If NBC allowed cable authentication for Peacock matches or similarly simulcast everything on Peacock, there would be no complaints and you know it.

    Of course I don’t care for EPL but your comment here…….”English Premier League is king and is in more high demand than any other soccer league and those that refuse to spend whatever money for behind the pay walls services to watch it, continue to be envious. That’s all I can figure about it.”…… talk about smug

  55. Michael F

    December 2, 2021 at 1:36 pm

    I am of the belief that a lot of initial complaints by Peacock’s initial launch has made people believe the same issues or lack of features still exist, as these same ones abandoned using the service.

    The funny thing is I don’t see nearly the same amount of complaints or frustration over the lack of features and quality of Paramount+ that carries the prestigious Champions League tournament. I mean Paramount+ still has no pause or rewind features and they provide score spoilers all over the place on matches all aired at the same time. It stinks for anyone that wants to pick up watching any of the CL matches on-demand later.

    And for all the complaints by Mercator on what NBC/Peacock should additionally provide, they still provide more daily coverage throughout the week of their league than any other stream service provides of their covered leagues or tournaments. It’s not even close with that comparison. Yet we never hear of the complaints for these other services.

    What that tells me, is the English Premier League is king and is in more high demand than any other soccer league and those that refuse to spend whatever money for behind the pay walls services to watch it, continue to be envious. That’s all I can figure about it.

  56. greg

    December 2, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    @nosferatu – Whoa, really? There’s that good of a live pause? That’s a step I guess.

  57. Nosferatu

    December 2, 2021 at 3:06 am

    @Michael F, good point about the lack of scores on the Peacock streams. I’d be happy with them for none of the games anywhere, but this at least gives us options unless our must-see-first game is on NBC/NBCSN. Harkens back to the old days of the world feed games being on random cable channels (most of which weren’t in HD for me).

    I’m also pleased that the live DVR controls are working now for Peacock on Roku. I’ll have to play around to see how well they work (I paused the Newcastle v. Norwich game yesterday for a long time (after rewinding it first), like 90 minutes, and when I went back and checked it was dead, so I don’t know how long you can hold a paused game for, but that wasn’t a big deal as the replay was ready to stream so I could just fast-forward to where I left off.

  58. Jon

    December 1, 2021 at 3:46 pm

    I should probably stop posting the same thing every week but good lord Karen Carney is irritating. Auditory torture.

  59. dave seaman

    December 1, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    Agreed w/ Tony…it is insulting to the teams to have such rubbish announcers as karen or twitman. why???? only thing one can do is mute!

  60. rkujay

    December 1, 2021 at 1:25 pm

    I notice on today 12/1 that there’s a match between Morocco and Palestine. One wonders where Palestine plays its home matches?

  61. Michael F

    December 1, 2021 at 1:18 pm

    I like Lee Dixon as well. Both he and Graeme are excellent.

  62. Michael F

    December 1, 2021 at 12:23 pm

    @SteveK. Regarding your comment about a staggered schedule of live matches and not the majority on at same time slot.

    This is one of the things I praise Peacock live aired matches about, because they do not provide spoilers for their exclusively live aired matches as they do a world feed. Only the nbc network aired telecasts provide score updates of other matches. I like that because I do watch many of the matches on delay, as I like to view most EPL matches in its entirety (if I can) without spoilers.

  63. Stevek

    December 1, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    My humble opinion is Lee Dixon might be having some hair restoration work done, the few times we have seen him this season he has been wearing a hat. I think Graeme and Lee are both excellent, right behind Rebecca and David Ornstein as my NBC overall favs.

  64. Michael F

    December 1, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @SteveK. Totally agree. $5 is hardly any reason to get that upset about. It reeks of such cheapness to constantly b*tch and moan about it too.

  65. Stevek

    December 1, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    That’s a very fair criticism Don, one of the few things that has frustrated me about Comcast and Peacock this year is their treatment of Goal Rush, it was much better two years ago. It’s also reminded me how much I liked the “no fans allowed in the stadiums” lockdown scheduling where games were spread out and televised. I actually miss that now, I liked having so many games to choose from at so many different times. Still, though, we here in the US have it so much better than Britons who are stuck with that archaic 3pm blackout.

  66. Michael F

    December 1, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    I get a kick out of John Culea always lamenting about The absence of Lee Dixon whenever he is not listed for the high profile matches with Arlo White. Great stuff.

    My humble opinion is that Graeme Le Saux is a quality analyst.

  67. Don Freeman

    December 1, 2021 at 11:47 am

    Why is there a continuous problem with getting peacock to give a goal rush feed for days like today when there’s multiple simultaneous kickoffs and worse still two overlapping windows?

    • Christopher Harris

      December 1, 2021 at 1:06 pm

      Hi Don, Goal Rush doesn’t broadcast all the time there are simultaneous games on. Usually, it’s only available on Saturdays from 10AM to Noon ET.

  68. Tony

    December 1, 2021 at 10:45 am

    Why Karen Carney ??? So irritating !!!!!! A female version of Taylor Twellman

  69. Stevek

    December 1, 2021 at 8:47 am

    So being able to watch three Man United games live is not worth 5 bucks?

    You may need to revaluate your fandom.

  70. Pete

    November 30, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    Third week running man utd on peacock. NBC can f off.

  71. John Culea

    November 30, 2021 at 2:32 pm

    Where is Lee Dixon!

  72. greg

    November 30, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    He deservedly won the Football Supporter’s Association award for Commentator of the Year last night.

    That match could/should be a cracker. Both teams desperately need a point.

  73. MIB Fan

    November 30, 2021 at 12:11 pm

    Peter Drury calling Norwich-Newcastle for Amazon Prime UK. Too bad the rest of the world can’t hear how Peter tries to make it sound exciting.

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