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Philadelphia Union Fans Disrespect Themselves Against Man United

 Philadelphia Union Fans Disrespect Themselves Against Man United

UPDATE: Note from The Gaffer… I’d like to apologize to the Philadelphia Union fans regarding the incorrect insinuation that the fans were chanting the F bomb, when they were actually not.

Wednesday night, the Philadelphia Union hosted Manchester United at Lincoln Financial Field in Pennsylvania. I am a Manchester United fan, and ever since my first trip to Old Trafford last November, I am making it a point to see them live at least twice a year any way I can. Luckily for me, they decided to tour North America this summer.

I live in North Carolina, and drove about 10 hours to get to Philadelphia. It was my first time there, but I came out with a very negative opinion of Philadelphia fans, all because of the Philadelphia Union supporters section.

Much like any other soccer team, the Philadelphia Union supporters section sit behind the goal. When I was there, they were wearing light blue jerseys. I remember thinking it was quite nice that the Philadelphia Union had a section filled with dedicated supporters who were there to cheer on their team.

And then they opened their mouths.

When Tomasz Kuszczak took his first goal kick, and every subsequent one after that, the Philadelphia Union supporters section (mind you, only the ones with the blue jerseys) would yell “You suck, a**hole!” It was amusing at first, but during periods of possession by Manchester United, the fans started to yell “F**k you!” in unison. This being my first time in Philadelphia, I did not think I would experience such an ignorant group of fans, who instead of creating a clever song, or chant, resorted to profanity, insults, and generally embarrassed themselves by showing the world just how crass and unimaginative American fans can be. Being American myself, I was embarrassed for them, and I also wanted to apologize if there were any foreign fans having to experience such behavior.

I would also like to point out we sat next to a very nice Irish man, and also a Scottish man, and they were very much into the game, but they never directed a single insult at a Union player.

I wanted to post this because I have seen that there have been match analysis already on the website, but I don’t think anyone has written in who was live at the game. But it is safe to say that Philadelphia Union supporters only know a few words. “f**k” “you” “a**hole” “suck” and “beer.” What a “great” way to welcome one of the biggest clubs in the universe, with ignorance. I apologize on behalf of real fans who do not need to resort to vulgar comments just to get our points across.

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329 Responses to Philadelphia Union Fans Disrespect Themselves Against Man United

  1. Chris says:

    I totally agree, with you. I am from WV and my girlfriend and I drove up 6 hours to see the match. The Union fans were jerks. I was at the opposite goal the Union supporters were at, but there were a few ignorant fans sitting behind us as well. We had a great time overall, but their fans really put a damper on my opinion of their squad and city. Luckily everyone else I met in the city was very nice.

    • Patrick says:

      Philly is the toilet bowl of the american sports world. Only bile and garbage come from their fans in all sports. This season some guy was arrested for puking on some little girl (on purpose) who’s dad happend to be an off duty cop. They boo’ed santa for christ sakes…

      I hate to stereotype, I really do, but Philly fans give no one any reason to believe otherwise. I’m sure they are not all bad but they’re known for being shitty fans.

      • Bob says:

        Hey champ, the reason we booed “Santa” was because the dude in the costume was a skinny little prick who was wasted at the time… a horrible excuse for Santa Claus..So please don’t talk unless you know what’s going on

  2. Sean says:

    They should not be lumped into American Fans. That’s the way Philadelphia fans are, whether it is the Eagles, Phillies, Flyers and now apparently Union.

    • John @coachclifford says:

      SPOT ON Sean. I’m actually surprised by the observation (made by an American no less). I’m 41, well-traveled across the US, have visited England, and an avid sports fan in general. There are simply certain people and places in sports that are not conducive to civility – Boston, New York and Philadelphia can often be among them I’m afraid to say. Born and raised in Boston and having lived in Chicago for a few years, there is a fundamental difference between the harsh and gritty mean streak of the northeast and the down-to-earth friendliness of the midwest. Stepping on a foot in a sports bar in one place can get you a brawl as opposed to an apology in another.

      I love that the WPS provides my 3 daughters, all soccer players U13 and under, a great live fan atmosphere, as opposed to the NFL or MLB (depending on how much money I spend – one game for the latter equaling a season ticket of the former in order to sit with civilized folk).

    • Phil says:

      IT is well-known that the fans from the Sixth Borough are the worst in the nation.

  3. ChrissMari says:

    so not only is a Man Utd complaining about Philadelphians being Philadelphians (215 Represent) it’s a NEW Man Utd fan to boot! If you had ever been anywhere besides one match at Old Trafford you wouldn’t be so shocked.

    Grow a pair of testicles and stop whining.

    • Ryan Kn says:

      Naw, it’s general ignorance. Swearing is funny when you can incorporate it into a song, or a chant. But just yelling ‘F*ck you’ is highly annoying.

      At least be creative. Anyone can hold a scarf over their head.

      • JeffreyM says:

        What everyone thinks is “F**K YOU” is actually a “Cmon the U” chant for the UNION.

        • PhillyUnion says:

          JeffreyM is correct it is “C’mon the U”. Seems people EXPECT Philly fans to be vulgar and can’t HEAR the words of some of our chants. I agree we need to come up with a new chant on away goal kicks, plus it would be ours. Many other MLS clubs do it as well. By the way, wasn’t this a chant for a while for some teams in England? These are some of our songs. Let me know all the cuse words in the lyrics http://www.sonsofben.com/gameday/ .

    • Sara says:

      His point is how chants and heckles at other matches–notably ones in the premier league–are all clever and well put together, using curse words only when they’re fitting. Philadelphia failed and just showed us how dumb the American fans can be. I’m a diehard United fan and I have been to Old Trafford loads of times while I lived in Manchester and there was never anything of this caliber. You’re just as ignorant as the Philadelphians he mentions in the article.

      • Patrick says:

        “all clever and well put together, using curse words only when they’re fitting.”

        Huh? To quote:
        My old man, said “be a city fan”,
        I said “f*ck off, you’re a c*nt!”,
        “I’d rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it,
        Than be a city fan for just one minute”.

        Tell me which of the two four-letter words in the second sentence was “clever” or “fitting”

        You can say “A**hole at work. Last time I checked, F**K and C**t will get you fired.

        And don’t get me started on Racism.

    • Tim says:

      Its not that he is a United fan, its that he is a little pansy…. Im a philly fan for all sports, but United is my true love. He just needs a dose of reality and step out of his little Mucking bubble.

  4. dan says:

    That’s the Philly mentality sadly. It’s not just Union fans, but every sports team there. They have a sports culture there that pretty much says “find the line of decency and fair play, then blow right past it”. They throw snowballs at their own (Am.) football team when they suck.

    • Ilozmwl says:

      How many sporting events have you been to in Philly? And in New York, Boston? Or are you only going on stereotypes and myth?

    • SoB says:

      Dan you have know idea what your talking about we never throw snowballs at our team it was Jimmy Johnson and Santa Claus. Now get your facts straight.

    • njndirish says:

      As a Yankees fan, I have been to Philly during the prior World Series. The fans of course were a bit rash on the occasion, but they never took it out on fellow fans, and were respectful of the Yankees fans there.

      Also my college is very weak in the passion department. But when our team was getting obliterated on National TV and the opposing coach challenged the play, we started chanting F— (The coach’s name) and continued it for the remainder of the game. (Please note this was on National TV)

    • Tim says:

      that hasnt happen in years!

    • weeszel says:

      first off we never tossed snowballs at our own team the eagles just the cowboys and a drunk santa claus

    • Phil says:

      Dan,

      Quite frankly, you are a moron. Still complaining about the Santa incident after 40 years, and stating it like it is the present is flat out stupid. C’mon the U is not vulgar. The other statement is what aot team supportes chant in MLS.

      What is said in PPL park is not close to as bad as what has been said in Old Trafford. You, like all the other idiots who think Philly fans are the only ones who drink and curse, got all the mileage you can get out of the Santa incident. Give it a rest.

    • SeannyBoy says:

      “They throw snowballs at their own (Am.) football team when they suck.”

      Uh, that’s never happened. But nice try Dan.

      Eagles fans have thrown snowballs on the field before, and most notoriously at Cowboys coach Jimmie Johnson. But I think we can all agree pelting Johnson is perfectly acceptable behavior.

  5. Chris says:

    It’s shocking that fans in Philly had no class. There’s nothing in that city’s history that suggests that they wouldn’t be anything but polite.

    #sarcasm

  6. Jaime says:

    Whilst I dont agree with the “F**k you” chants and things of the like, I do like the “you suck a** hole chant for goal kicks. Much like the Leeds United fans chanting “you scum bastard” during goals kicks. I think its brilliant. But the other chants need to be a little more creative… And like Sean said, you cant expect much from Philadelphia fans lol.

  7. CB says:

    My wife and I were there as well and were equally disgusted. Last year, we went to the Chelsea-Milan game in Baltimore, and I thought that experience was much better (except for United not being there!). In Philly, the fans were rude, the stadium wasn’t fully staffed or sold out, and there was no one directing traffic on the way out. In the long run, that could be a good thing, I suppose. Baltimore won’t mind getting Philly’s world cup games.

    • weeszel says:

      first off they only sold tix in the first and second levels which sold out.. rude is just philadelphian on a 90 degree july night .. sorry you were so disgusted

  8. meta says:

    Oh, the irony. Do you know what song Man Utd fans sang, and even published, on one of the Premiership’s top managers? And yes, it is profoundly more controversial, offensive and profane than anything the Union fans so shocked you with.

  9. 2 Yellows says:

    Full disclosure: I’m a season ticket holder for the Union, but not a member of the Sons of Ben.

    You are absolutely correct about the “You suck, a**hole” chant whenever the opposition keeper takes a goal kick. It’s gone on all year. However, I will say that I *believe* the chant you thought was “F*** You” is actually “‘Mon the U” or “come on the U”. When they sing it fast, it does sound like “F*** You”.

    I’m sorry your experience wasn’t good, I truly am. Sons of Ben have walked a fine line all season long, quite frankly. Philadelphia has a rep for being a “tough” sports town and yeah, it’s always a bit odd/disconcerting for fans/supporters who aren’t from this area to deal with the attitude. I will say the atmosphere at PPL has been very positive, for the most part, and other than flares set off by Celtic supporters in the friendly held there, it’s been incident-free (as far as I’m aware).

    I’m sure you saw the large number of people wearing Manchester United kits at the match. Sons of Ben usually have those sections to themselves, and are a lot bigger in number, but a lot of them were spread throughout the stadium. Again, no defense and I’m not making excuses, but I feel like if those sections had been strictly SOB supporters, it might have been much closer to the PPL experience than what you went through.

    Just giving some context here.

    • No_Brakes says:

      How, exactly, have we been walking a fine line all season long? We haven’t and you know it. Why broadcast this bs to the rest of the MLS community when it is not true? If you have an axe to grind, that’s fine. Bring it onto OUR boards.You’re on one yellow. You’ve nearly earned your moniker.

  10. Jared says:

    I think it’s worth pointing out a couple of things regarding the chants. The “You Suck” goal kick chant is actually done throughout MLS against all teams. The Supporters Section is working on changing it. As for the “F*** You” chant you thought you heard, it’s a common mishearing. They’re actually saying “We Love The U”, which, when heard in the stadium, ends up sounding very different sometimes. Please do a little research before you start bashing all Union fans. We’re generally, but not all, pretty reasonable and fun people.

    • Jon says:

      Spot on Jared. The “you suck a**hole” chant is not unique to Union fans. You can hear the same exact chant yelled during goal kicks in Seattle (where it is perhaps even more pronounced) and other MLS venues.

      Here’s a sample from a non-Union match:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3Jh_WFWwc

      • csh says:

        Most of the North End Supporters in Seattle chant “You Suck (name)” during goal kicks. The rowdier and less kid-friendly South End generally sticks with the anatomical. I find the “a$$hole” bit rather embarrassing, really.

        • crollaa says:

          The Emerald City Supporters discourages this chant. It is the random general fans who continue to perpetuate this tired chant.

  11. damper says:

    It’s Philly. Don’t act surprised and get use to it.

  12. adam says:

    Meh. I was sitting in the United supporters section the tone was similar. Beyond the standard songs (“Why don’t city f*ck off home”), though we were generally more creative in the use of our profanity: “If you know that Philly sucks clap your hands / If you know that Philly sucks clap your hands / If you know that Philly sucks and their all a bunch of c*nts / If you know that Philly sucks clap your hands.”

  13. Paul says:

    Better call the whaaambulance for this Manure fan…

  14. Derek says:

    Go to a Division One game in England (and probably some Premier League games) and maybe you wouldn’t have been so appalled. I’m sure the Man United team was hardly fazed by it all and have heard much worse.

  15. Excuse me! We did not chant “F**k You,” we chant “Come On The U.” Philadelphia has the greatest fans of ANY sports teams in the United States, and nobody can take that away from us. We did not disrespect ourselves. If anything, we showed the world what’s its like to be a Philadelphian and we are damn proud of it!

    • Soccer Talk says:

      Are you kidding? Everyone knows Philly fans are the worst fans in the world! And I’m pretty sure a guy sitting right in the middle of the group can differentiate “F*ck You!” from “Come on the U”. And that’s not even creative to begin with because everyone knows “The U” is the University of Miami, further proving what a joke sports fans from Philadelphia are. Biggest fair weather fans in the US.

      • John @coachclifford says:

        Honestly, McNabb – booed. Mike Schmidt – booed. By contrast in-state with the Eagles, you have Steelers fans, umm, need I continue? Saying “best fans” regarding Philly is beyond silly and ignorant, never mind including it in any discussion of the same.

        • weeszel says:

          honestly mcnabb booed for throwing at peoples feet … mike schmidt booed for popping up with the bases loaded .. yeah it happened … sorry we are not coddlers around here

          • mike says:

            philadelphia fans at least have a reputation for being passionate about their sports teams. other teams dont like coming to play in philadelphia and neither do other fans to cheer against philly teams in philadelphia stadiums …. isnt that the point of attending games though ? to create an intimidating atmosphere for the other team thus giving your team any advantage you can

      • what? says:

        It actually is c’mon the U…The rest isn’t even worth commenting on.

      • Dave Reeve says:

        You my friend are a very ignorant person. I just wanted to let you know. Although I’m pretty sure you already aware of it.

      • weeszel says:

        sorry soccer talk it is cmon the u, cmon the u, cmon the u, clap clap
        i was one chanting it all night , and these fair weather fans sold out the vet for years when the teams did nothing but lose.i love people who rip philly but don’t know..

      • AnMaistin says:

        It was “C’mon the U!” We don’t just yell “F You!” Maybe your ears weren’t accustomed to the sheer volume that Philadelphia fans put out.

        And where in the world do you get “Biggest fair weather fans” from?! I myself have been a member of the Sons of Ben for over two years. There are many more who have been members for even longer. We were supporters before we had a team to support. We’ve stood by them after every loss. If we’re behind when the final whistle blows we don’t boo. We don’t hang our heads and shrink away. We sing for our team at the top of out lungs, swearing to stand by them. Tell me, how is THAT fair weather?

  16. Derek says:

    Go to a Division One game in England (and probably some Premier League games) and maybe you wouldn’t have been so appalled. I’m sure the Man United team was hardly fazed by it all and have heard much worse.

  17. Rebecca says:

    Wait…let me get this straight. You’ve been to actual football games in actual football stadiums in England with actual English football fans, and you are shocked…SHOCKED, I tell you!….a rude behavior and cursing? I confess that I have not yet found the time or the money to make it over myself (since I’m American), but reading accounts of matches and watching YouTube videos of crowds and chants and taunts makes it pretty clear that these games aren’t attended by the tea and crumpet crowd! I highly doubt any English person there associated with Man U was offended. If anything, it might have warmed their heart just a bit to see Americans getting into it like proper English fans!

    • Soccer Talk says:

      Yeah but this was a FRIENDLY! Philadelphia fans have no reason to behave this way, it’s not like Manchester United is a rival! We want them to have a good experience and come back! We’re also trying to prove that we can host a World Cup!

  18. Jimmy says:

    While I don’t agree with the way the Union fans represented at the match the other day ( the Acehole chant got obnoxious)…this is a post from a UNITED/EPL fan about be decent?

    The EPL is one of the loudest and mouthy league in the world. A place where not only beatings are on the regular but THEY SOMETIMES KILL THEIR OWN. The Manchester Darby is one of the most dangerous football events on the schedule each year.

    I agree their chants needed to be more original but come on dude…know your own smell before you say someone else stinks.

    • Paul Bestall says:

      I’m sorry, could you clarify the facts you use in your arguement. Could you point me to when a fan has been killed at a Premiership match by another fan? Honestly?

      The Manchester Derby is not one of the most dangerous sporting events in the world at all. It’s no more tense than any other major sporting event in the English Premiership. Quite where you’ve got that from I will never know.

      Hooliganism has vitually been eradicated from top flight football and these days even minor events are often covered as shocking because of the rarity such as the Millwall v West Ham League Cup game last season for example.

      However, compared to some of the chants at EPL matches, the Philly fans have a long way to go to match some our more obnoxious fans and chants. Every team has some rather odious chants.

      As for the goal kick chant, about 20 years ago, every goal kick in English football was accompained by the dreadful
      “Yooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu fat bastard”.
      Its still used but only in the lower leagues now by a few fans at matches and is dreadfully twee and out of date.

      • I have to say Paul is right, No one gets killed at Prem games, we don’t even here of a lot of violence taking place anymore although I think this is mainly down to the police escorts and the CCTV that is everywhere around the ground. You’re more likely to find violence at the lower league clubs than any Prem game.
        Even in the dark days of the 70′s and 80′s when there is no way you could take your family to a game, killing was very very rare. You would mainly get a kicking and at worse stabbed.
        There is swearing at every game in England, it is worse behind each goal but if you want to enjoy the game with your family and not have too much swearing you can sit in the side stands.
        To be honest though, I doubt many English (Man Utd) would be shocked, it is part of the game over here. They do like to make a chant up though or something interesting and amusing, saying F*** off over and over would probably be more annoying than offensive and the English Man Utd fans would probably not be impressed that they hadn’t come up with something a little more interesting.

        • Sorry, that should be ‘hear of a lot of violence’

        • This is what Man Utd fans sing and they sing it about there own player, normally when he has just scored.

          It’s a little racist but funny and designed not to have a go at Park (who they love) but all the scouse (liverpool fans)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7Ocwk1Fz0

          • matthew says:

            PARK PARK where ever you may be, eating rats in your home country, then again it could be worse you could be scouse eating rats in you council house.

        • Phil says:

          Let me just get this straight. People are complaining about Philadelphia for

          1. One chant that was entirely misunderstood
          2. One chant that is the norm in MLS, and is no worse than what is chanted in Ols Trafford
          3. Throwing snowballs ONCE at Santa, during a time when English fans were killing each other.

      • S.O.B. says:

        Did you not see the article about Diouf’s little brother being hospitalized for wearing a united shirt to the derby at eastlands last season??

        • There will always be isolated incidents, and I’m in no doubt that the organised hooliganism is still there but that happens away from the grounds and between people who are actually looking for it.

          Basically, if you want to go to a Prem game with the family now, you can. It is a world away from what it used to be when it was less about watching football and more about getting drunk and fighting.

          Back then, the chants from one set of fans to the others were along the lines of ‘you’re gonna get your f***in head kicked in’.

    • Dave C says:

      Ha, Jimmy’s post is hilarious.

  19. Kieran Kelly says:

    It’s been said in the comments already, but I’ll repeat it anyways.

    I’m a season ticket holder for the Union with seats in the supporters’ section. The chant that apparently everyone thinks is “F*ck You!” is actually saying “Come on the U!” I’ve never taken the time to listen to it from other parts of the stadium, but I find it hard to believe that a four syllable chant in one end of the stadium magically transforms to a two syllable one at the other end.

    As for the “You suck, asshole!” thing. Yes, it’s childish and probably inappropriate, but Philly isn’t the only place to do it. it’s done all over MLS. Mexico even takes it a step further with their “Puto!” chant, but I guess that doesn’t count because it’s in Spanish, right?

    In the end, the word asshole is pretty low on the curse word totem pole. You’re more likely to hear something more offensive walking down the street on a daily basis. People need to chill out and stop being offended at such trivial things.

    At this point, it’s taken hold in Philly and probably won’t go away.

    -KK

    • Phil says:

      I am a Union season ticket holder. I am not in the supporters section. I either bring my 3, or my 5 year old to the game. The “Blah, Blah, Blah hole” is not the nicest chant, but the sons of ben create an atmosphere that even my three year old gets excited about. I am proud of the sons of ben for what the did to get soccer in THANK YOU SONS OF BEN.

      If my kid ever repeats that chant, I would just tell them not to. It’s that simple.

    • D says:

      I was there last night with my 3 young children. We sat on the opposite end from the supporter’s section. I can assure you that a 4 word chant CAN INDEED transform to a 2 syllable one as it crosses the stadium…it’s the whole reason I came on the boards this morning. I thought- “There is no WAY they were saying what I think they were saying”. Thankfully, I was right.

  20. Gary Busby says:

    Man Utd fan living thousands of miles away from Machester offended by passionate local supporters! What a shocker!!

  21. Jason says:

    Just a note I was at the Red Bull Tottenham match last night and they do the same goal kick chant as well.

    • Chris says:

      I too was at the NYRB game last night, and the asshole thing happens there. They do a similar thing at most English games too…”ooooooooooooooooooh, (build up to GK) You’re shit, aaaah!”

      Mind you, I think “Come on the U” is kinda lame, but I guess you have to start somewhere. Give it a few years and you’ll be singing the Addams Family theme song chant to any team from the south (your sister is your mother, your father is your brother, you uncle bangs you mother, the [team name] family”. Not particularly grown up, but then which of them are?

  22. andrew sherlock says:

    Weird, I’m in the Sons of Ben, the Unions supporter group. I don’t recall ever getting taught the chant of “F*ck You!” Open up your ears, its “C’mon the U!” And “we love the U!”. Just because we’re from philly doesn’t mean we’re like all the other fans.

    And the “you suck, asshole!”, if you ever watched an MLS game from any other city, you’d probably hear it too. I watched the new york red bulls v. Tottenham hotspurs last night, every opposing goal kick they yelled it. Stop coming at us cause we are a new team. Don’t write aritcles bashing us, and maybe when NC has a team, you can ride that bandwagon too.

  23. Carolyn says:

    Do you have any idea what Man United fans “sing” at Old Trafford? Just ask Arsene Wenger. If you knew you wouldn’t be so quick to criticize Union fans. I can guarantee you that nothing American fans say comes even close to what is said by fans at EPL games. Or for that matter games in La Liga or Serie A.

  24. Ryan says:

    It’s “come on the U,” not “f*ck you.” Next time you should research before attaching your name to something; all it would have taken was asking one question of one Union supporter, but instead you chose to rant on the internet. The Sons of Ben were very much indeed being, in your words, “dedicated supporters who were there to cheer on their team.”

    As for “you suck *******,” I’m not a huge fan as there are often many families with young children at Union games. That said, plenty of United supporters around me laughed every time the Sons of Bens did it, so obviously not everybody in red agreed with you.

  25. Hari says:

    Try actually listening to the words. No one is chanting “F*** you”. The Union supporters are fantastic, fun and loyal. The “you suck asshole” on goal kicks is done everywhere in MLS and is funny, although I’d be happy to change it. The SoBs also have a number of very creative, non-profane and unique songs and chants.

    Philly sports are fun because we’re passionate, we care about our teams more than you can possibly imagine.

    Lots of families and kids come to the games and have a great time. The picture you paint is completely inaccurate.

  26. Tim says:

    I’m glad other people pointed out the idiocy of this article. There was no “F you” chant as already stated by others in the comments,and the “you suck *sshole” is commonly used throughout the MLS. So as usual, someone takes aim at Philadelphia fans to make them out to be complete animals when the person couldn’t even get his or her facts straight. Of course, I won’t say us Philadelphia fans don’t cross the line more often than other cities, cause we do. But this article is completely ridiculous.

    And even if there was an “F you” chant, did it really offend you so bad that you needed to write an article about it? Seriously, grow a set.

  27. mike says:

    they don’t chant f**k u over and over again, they chant “we are the U, we are the U.” I’m a season ticket holder and at first thought that was what they were saying but then realized it was another chant all together. The “you suck asshole” is done vs any teams opposing goalie and if asshole makes you cringe then you obv have no business being in at a football game in person. I’ve seen Arsenal, Fuhham, Barca, Bayern all in Europe, at their home stadiums, and this is nothing compared to what you get over there.

  28. Lowell N. says:

    Welcome to Philly!

    Frankly, the game in the stands should not impact the play on the pitch. I agree that foul mouths do ruin the fan experience, but thats what you can get away with in America. Its sad but true. I’d much prefer a potty-mouth sit next to me than have 30 cameras watch my every move enroute, during, and exiting the game.

    Cheers to the Union fans NOT putting Man Utd on a pedestal.

  29. Matt SOB says:

    I was not there to play grab-ass with ManU. I was there to support my team. Take your shitty purist soccer attitude and move over the pond if you love them so much.

  30. U says:

    Were you born stupid or did you have to work at it?

    C’MON, THE U!

  31. Ben says:

    This article is embarrassing. The dude has been to one total soccer match and is from Carolina.

    I was at the match, the atmosphere was spectacular.

  32. kev says:

    aaaawwwwwww, poow baby got sad when people stawted using sweaw words?

    grow up. and why don’t you support a team from your own country. don’t you think it annoys proper fans to see a bunch of creeps driving up for hours to watch a foreign team.

    and seriously, it shows that you’ve only just been to OT. they’re not all singing lullabyes. ever hear the Tevez kettleneck song? how about the one where they put Dalglish at the top, and they burn the f*****g lot? let alone the chants of 96 was not enough.

    grow up, it’s not an AYSO game.

  33. ron says:

    congratulations on having your cherry popped by escaping your bubble and traveling to the north east where all sports fans do that. unfortunately you learned the wrong lesson.

    maybe you can learn to use the google and discover how football/soccer fans behave the world over and then get a perspective that has merit.

  34. aDAM says:

    You cant blame it on the Philly fans, the U SUCK AHOLE chant is unoriginal and is used by the fans for most if not all MLS team fans. If you listen to the tv Seattle fans do it and Columbus fans did it when I was there. On message boards I often say we need to be as clever as the english fans with song and lyrics but I guess its because most of my American compatriots hae ADD and cant be original.

    • jack says:

      The brits have unoriginal chants too….go to the sounders website and look at our chants…you will find all the songs and lyrics you want! I am tired of all the MLS bashing, face it, we win international friendlies and washed up euro stars flop cause they can’t keep up with our game. US soccer is growing and will produce some of the bestclub play in the world within a few years

    • Gazza says:

      It is not used in most MLS stadiums. Maybe 4. And even so that doesn’t make it right. It is a stupid chant and will cost you thousands of season ticket holders in the near future.

  35. Marc says:

    I was disgusted that there was no “love United Hate Glazer” chants going around the ground.

  36. Jake says:

    LOL @ “You suck , asshole!”

    It’s supposed to be “You fat bastard!”

  37. Ed says:

    Seriously?

  38. Patrick says:

    What really amazes me is that this is a team that has played half a season, and they already have loyal fans. Lets talk about that. Not Philadelphia sterotypes. Cause most of them are incorrect.

    As stated before, these chants are nothing isolated to Philadelphia, and no one chants F you…

    But what this story does perfectly illustrate is the mentality of the US Man U fan…. You have no idea of history, or who you really support.

    Union played well, and the fans gave them full voice. Philadelphia should be proud of the passion already being shown… Other MLS cities should take notice. END OF.

  39. Lee says:

    “Sit down you paedopile, sit down you paedophile!
    Sit down you paedopile, sit down you paedophile!
    Sit down you paedopile, sit down you paedophile!
    Sit down you paedopile, sit down you paedophile!
    Sit down you paedopile, sit down you paedophile!
    Sit down you paedopile, sit down you paedophile!”

    That’s what Man Utd fans chant towards Arsene Wenger.

    • Clampdown says:

      Yes, they do. But the author can’t hear that chant in North Carolina.

      Seriously, no response from the author on the many comments that he possible misunderstood a common chant at Union matches? Or the fact that he doesn’t understand much worse is said at OT against the likes of City, Liverpool, and Arsenal?

      I find the whole post insipid. Man drives long way to see favorite soccer club play at an opposition ground and is offended by swearing! What a shocker.

      • njndirish says:

        Sadly the stadium was mostly red, but I never heard a sound from United “fans” the entire match. All I heard was the SoB’s

        • The Gaffer says:

          Listening to the game on ESPN2, I could only hear the Man United fans singing for most of the game. I heard a few ‘USA, USA’ chants and a few Union fans singing, but it was 90% Man Utd supporters that I heard.

          Cheers,
          The Gaffer

          • zolo sc says:

            Go to ESPN3.com and watch the game again. I was at the game AND i watched the ESPN broadcast and there weren’t any Man U chants for 99.9 percent of the game, while the Sons of Ben went start to finish.

          • njndirish says:

            Most of those Man Utd. fans couldn’t sing you “Glory Glory Man Utd,” let alone anything else

  40. Erik Sweet says:

    I was at the game as well, and I was shocked at how many people were so brash and so ballsy. When I see a Yankee fan at Fenway Park (I’m a Red Sox guy), I say absolutely nothing to them – almost giving them a measure of respect for wearing their teams’ colours in enemy territory. Yet more people in Philadelphia gave me sh*t about my Manchester United shirt than I had ever expected. A sampling:

    “Aren’t you supposed to be at a Yankee game or wearing a Cowboy’s hat? Frontrunner prick.”

    “Long flight back to Manchester, huh?”

    “Where’s Rooney? You wasted your money if you wanted to see him.”

    And these comments were just related to the shirt I wore! Some of the more vocal United fans were berated, insulted, and screamed at. Is a stadium supposed to be lively, with rancor and debate amongst fans? Sure. But hatred and ignorance, especially from Philadelphians, is not supposed to be a part of the “American soccer experience”.

    I’d be more than happy to never visit the “City of Brotherly Love” ever again.

    • patrick says:

      so how was the flight back to Manchester, or are you an Essex boy?

    • patrick says:

      I’ve been to Fenway many times… last time with a group from work to watch a visiting team play. two in our group happened to have pinstripe shirts on, and what you just described was no where near the vitriol spewed in our direction. We had beer thrown on us, threats about our safety… etc etc etc.

      clearly this is an issue ONLY in Philadelphia.

    • Ed says:

      We’ll all really miss you.

    • IanCransonsKnees says:

      I have to say the following, what do you expect? They’re fans supporting their local team whilst you choose to gloryhunt a team from a foreign country. They’re supporting the growth of football in America, not selling out to watch an overseas team. If you can make the effort to travel to see the shit play why can’t you make the effort to follow an MLS team a few games a season?

    • Dave C says:

      Erik, it sounds like you experienced typical football banter. Any opposing fan will get light-hearted abuse from the other teams fans. Especially if you’ve arbitrarily chosen to support a team you have no connection with (I assume) just because they’re successful and famous.

      As for comparing it to baseball crowds, that’s like comparing apples and oranges. That’s like going to a tennis match and concluding that fans of all other sports should sit in polite silence too. Anyway, personally I’m glad that football crowds remain as far as possible from the atmosphere at baseball games. I’ve been to both Yankees games and Mets games, and the crowd atmosphere was so dull.

    • njndirish says:

      My family no longer wears Yankees stuff when we get a chance to go to Fenway, just ask my cousin and his scar.

    • S.O.B. says:

      Thats funny. My wife and I went up to Fenway last season to see Sox/Indians in the last home series, since she is from OH and is an indians supporter. The playoff teams had been decided by this point and did i mention she was 6 months pregnant. That did not stop a group of Sox fans tell us that we should just abort the baby if we are going to raise it as an indians fan. you tell me whats worse…

    • weeszel says:

      just some lovely unimaginative american insults (lol)
      but really you were in philly playing the philadelphia union did this really surprise you… every rooney jersey i saw was greeted with ” i guess he was too tired from the world cup to show up huh ” when walking out some american nimrod in a rooney jersey was doing some fist pumping rooney chant … and he was drowned out with a” scored no goals in the world cup “chant .. i guess us union fans were just overly defensive that night…yuk

  41. jim says:

    Maybe the name of the article should changed to Ethiene Rodriguez embarrasses himself at Lincoln Financial Field.

  42. bubbles sob says:

    thank you for confirming that us sob’s are passionate supporters rather than pandering frontrunners. i bet you wear the green and gold scarf too. COME ON THE U.

  43. Erik Sweet says:

    We’d be more than happy not to have you lousy tipping Canadian ass back to Philly

  44. Nigel says:

    Couldn’t agree more. It showed poor taste, and especially for a “friendly.” I was disgusted, as were most of the Man U and Philadelphia Union fans in my section. For that reason only, I though it was poetic justice that in the 90th minute with the clearest shot at goal, the striker from Philadelphia Union hit the ball over the crossbar (at point blank range) into the section of culprits.

    • Ilozmwl says:

      That is poetic justice? Shitty poet.

    • njndirish says:

      How was it poetic justice that a team that played a better brand of football lost?

      I was more entertained by Philly’s style than United’s punt and pray

    • S.O.B. says:

      Funny. I was sitting midfield and all the union supporters around me loved it. I also had a nice talk with a gentleman from manchester who was there with his kids and grandkids. his dad was a season ticket holder for united and when he died this guy took them on. He was teaching his grandkids about the players and the history. it was quite fun to watch. then the You Suck chant came up. he pointed at the sons of ben and looked at his grandkids and said,”now thats true support done proper”.

  45. City of Brotherly Love!! says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLFY4e05HA

    Defend the River End!!!!

    IGNORANT? How about the racist chant last season aimed at Man City’s Adebayor…

    and the sad thing is they wheren’t even clever enough to make it up themselves. Just stole a racist chant from Spuds…

    Ethiene, I think you may have drifted into uncharted waters, and you didn’t like what you saw. fair enough.

    • Paul Bestall says:

      How is singing a song about Wenger being a peadophile racist? It’s extremely offensive but racist? No.

      • Patrick says:

        I believe this person is referring to Adebayor chant. the one with elephants and whores in it. It was sorta in the news a lot when it happened.

    • John @coachclifford says:

      As an Ade fan, I’m not shocked that so few rushed to cite that example as you did so deftly. Kudos to you for doing so.

  46. Nicolaus says:

    Dude. You clearly weren’t paying attention to us the entire match. We have chants. We have songs. We have all that clever stuff.
    But we also don’t give a crap and cuss and do all that stuff. Have you never been to a live sporting event before? That stuff happens EVERYWHERE. Welcome the the country known as America dumbass. And, newsflash, this kind of stuff happens everywhere, even at the matches for your precious ManU. Your boys across the pond are probably just as bad, if not worse, than us. Your ignorance is disappointing.

    So, on the behalf of everybody who has common sense and actually knows how to use their ears and brains, allow me to say “you can shove this article up you A-S-S”

  47. tgrooms says:

    I’m starting to get annoyed with all these childish complaints about our chants. You’re the ignorant ones that don’t even try to understand what you’re hearing. If you are going to just sit quietly in the stands and pass judgment, then you’re the kind of fan who I’m embarrassed of. I had no problem with YOU supporting YOUR team in MY city, but if you’re going to be rude then go back to your barn and watch your precious Man U with the ‘mute’ on. Have to protect those virgin ears! DOOP!

    OH YOU CAN”T SCARE ME, I’M STICKIN’ TO THE UNION!

  48. Kenny says:

    What else would you expect from Philadelphia? Everyone knows Philly has the trashiest fans. They booed Santa Claus, threw snowballs with batteries inside them at Dallas Cowboys players, and they’re the only US team to have a jail in their stadium.

    When I think of Philly, the last things I think about are class, intelligence and sportsmanship.

    • Ilozmwl says:

      Kenny, we threw batteries at JD Drew. And Santa Claus was asking for it (he was drunk and belligerent).

      • Badtz says:

        And honestly, that Santa thought the snowball incident was funny. (After the fact, of course, but still.) If he doesn’t hold any ill will, I don’t see why everyone else has to hold on to that incident.

    • S.O.B. says:

      And what city do you call home so I can pull up a bunch of bad things about it that happened 20 years ago.

  49. Union2010 says:

    This article shows that you are actually the one that is ignorant, not the Sons of Ben (the “Union supporters club” you refer to. ) No one was chanting “F**k you” during the game. They were chanting “C’mon the U.” Please explain to me how this chant “just shows the world how crass and unimaginative American fans can be.”

    • Clampdown says:

      He can’t.

      BTW, I am a RBNY season ticketholder and sit near the away supporters section. I thought the Sons of Ben were brilliant when they visited earlier this season. Plenty of funny chants and great travelling support.

  50. David says:

    The “You suck…” chant is not just used in the MLS but in American sports leagues as a whole. I went to Michigan State University and whenever the American football team had a first down they would say “First down b*tch” and do the “A-hole” chant when someone on the opposing team did something the student section just plain didn’t like and the “You suck…” chant was used every time there was a kickoff.

    I’m a Red Bulls supporter in the US, so I could give a hoot if you’re not a fan of Philly, but it sounds like you have a general problem with Americas lack of songs and creative chants more than Philly. As for the “F you” chant you think you heard, I cannot attest to knowing about such a thing, nor do I care given the bland and distaste chants I’m used to here.

    But I will say that having witty chants, while fun, can get you into trouble. Chants in the EPL about a clubs sensitive history sometimes is no better than just coming out and saying “F You” to someone on the pitch. Just some food for thought there.

  51. Sabin says:

    Ethiene, you disrespect yourself by being a Utd fan.

  52. Mayor Nutter says:

    Let me get this straight, you had never been to Philadelphia before this event? And you didn’t even check out our restaurants, our World famous Art Museum, South Street, Rittenhouse Square, Independence Hall, the Liberty Bell? and then complain about our city because you don’t understand sports?

    We are the CITY of Brotherly LOVE!

  53. matthew says:

    I live in england and did watch the game on Mutv the chant at goal kicks is also done in England but mainly at lower league matches although it is sometimes heard at premiership games, the chant here as the goal keeper runs towards the ball is “your shitaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh” with aaaaaaaaaaaaa dragged out as the ball flys off the goalies boot down the pitch. so nothing new 2 utd fans. we also sing some rude songs its all part of the rivalry, mainly about city and liverpool. i for one am pleased to see the sport growing in america as opposed to the sports only played there.

  54. What really happened:

    Scum made up 80% of the crowd. You were outsung. You were outcheered. For a good portion of the match, you were so clearly outplayed.

    Apparently, to some folks, “Come on the U” sounds like “F You.” You people must not be able to count syllables , huh?

  55. Really? says:

    I’d call this piling on, but it sounds like an offended, entitled fan more than anything. Obviously, you will be slighted against the fans no matter what the say (as you are a fan of the opposing team) and there have been plenty of stories on Philly’s fans. 1) What did you expect? 2) That’s not bad at all, for Philly, or any American sporting event I have ever been to. 3) The great part about Philly is that if you don’t like it, they (we) don’t care and they (we) don’t need you hear anyway…

  56. If you went to Old Trafford, I guess you really weren’t there. If you have honestly been to a EPL game you would have heard the same sort of language and chants that are at some points pretty mean spirited towards players and the opposing club. Your article was just a cheap way to take a shot at Philadelphia.

    Btw, the chants during the game are “C’mon the U”

    Quick call the Waaaambulance and please grow a pair.

  57. Jacob says:

    When’s Helena getting an MLS expansion team?

  58. Jim says:

    for the record, the chant is “c’mon the U” not “f**k you”. anyone with a normal sense of hearing would realize this

  59. Mayor Humpty Hump says:

    LOL that Sweet Erik got his panties in a bunch for being called out for wearing red. Thank Zolo that some Philadelphians already love the U so much that they aren’t going to let a bunch of glory hunting tourists feel like they are at New Trafford. Should they have joined you in singing Kumbaya? No, this is sports, in the Northeast US. Boston, NY, and Philly take stuff as seriously as they do over there. It was fans over there that sang about Munich, and dying on the runway. But I doubt your knowledge of soccer culture goes back that far.

  60. Rfjmc32 says:

    ManU fans commonly sing with glee about the two English stadium disasters that killed LFC fans. (and LFC fans about a certain airplane disaster)

    Even if the Sons of Ben chant was “f$&@ you” it wouldn’t come close to that classlessness. But since the author clearly is a bandwagon Manure fan he clerky wouldn’t know anything.

  61. jackhammer says:

    I’ve been to three Union games this year (not a Son of Ben or season ticket holder, but I’ve sat next to the supporters section each time) and it’s been clear to me from day one that the chant was “C’mon the U”. If you had problems with individual fans that’s another story, but for god’s sake at least get your facts straight before making any sweeping judgments!

  62. shadow says:

    Horrible article. Just another phony trying to talk trash on Philly fans. Any respectable writer would make sure his points were valid before putting fingers to keyboard. A quick trip to the supporters website would have shown you the words are C’MON THE U, not F U. Notice 4 syllables vs 2. Also I was in the corner (sec 125) and out of town Man U supporters like yourself were trying to start fights all over the place after Obertons goal. This year ive had beer dumped on me from DC United fans and Celtic fans, Red bull fans threw rocks at our bus, and here we are talking about a chant. Get over yourself

  63. Pete Rose says:

    Ethiene, do you sit down when you pee?

  64. Gaz Hunt says:

    Aw, poor United fan.

    I get the feeling you expect Union fans to curtsy to Manchester United (“one of the biggest clubs in the universe” as you say) due to reputation.

    This is a football match with big boy, football words. No different than any other stadium in the world.

    I will agree with the lack of creativity but give them time. The stadium and the fans have only been in existence for a few months now.

  65. john smith says:

    You, Ethien Rodriguez, live in North Carolina, probably in a random little town and know nothing about the outside world. It’s Philladelphia…C’mon. The fans are crazy there. That’s just how they are. You can’t just pick out Union fans because at mostly all soccer games, even all sports games, the fans are rude. Your treating Manchester United as a god, and whenever an opposing team’s fans yell something so minimal like “You suck, sshole”, you think they should go to hell. Stop worshipping Manchester United and England, and start defending your country of America, the greatest country in the world. You should be happy that soccer is growing in the USA and fans are supporting MLS teams. Philadelphia Union have only been in the league for a half of a season and they already have enthusiastic fans. Anyways, Manchester United fans are a lot worse than Philadelphia fans. If Philadelphia Union went on a tour in England, and played man u, they would get ripped apart. You Man U fans in America are all fair-weather fans and really know nothing about manchester united. And your interpretation that Irish and Scottish people are “very nice”, is totally wrong. Ireland fans and the Tartan Army are crazy at games, and boo during the English national anthem at friendlies between Ireland and England. This article proves that you know nothing about cheering at soccer games, you are a fair-weather, and you are defending england and proud of being an American. You really need to read over your article and see how much of a pansy you are and how much you embarassed yourself.

  66. Scotty Mac says:

    I am a season ticket holder and happy to soccer in Philly. Our soccer fans are not even close the notorious Eagles fans.

    The chant is ‘Come on U’, I thought it was ‘F*** You’ when the season started but it’s not, listen more closely…the brain and trick people into seeing and hearing what they think they hear.

  67. ethiene says:

    ethiene, I hate to break it to you but people have known philly fans were a coarse, cantankerous lot for years. they win the world series and a prominent player grabs the mic and tells a stadium full of families “World F*cking Champions!”, so maybe take the sensitivity down a notch for the galaxy’s greatest soccerteam, I think with the money they’re making from these meaningless games they can find a way to get over a few foulmouthed fans.

  68. Mark says:

    I still support the throwing of snowballs at the Cowpokes…..

    • Cody says:

      By cowpokes, do you mean cowboys? If so, we threw snowballs at Santa during a Vikings game…

      • Mark says:

        We Booed Santa because he was drunk and skinny….

        Look up clips of Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys fleeing to the tunnel of Vet stadium with snow and ice balls raining down on them. Get some knowledge before you try to correct me.

  69. Larry says:

    Geez, I could spend 2 second on google and come up with chants from EPL and any other league that are far worse. Idon’t think SOB’s calling the poor MU goalie a name compares to the stuff Man U fans do on a regular basis. For that matter, I am quite sure no SOB cares what religion the players are, or what faith or political group the opposing team grew out of.

    I agree, this is a bandwagoning MU fan who wanted to slag on Philly.

  70. Justin says:

    You are right, this is all Philly fans. They are sooooo unrefined in that they don’t make monkey noises, throwing bananas, or sing about shitting on other team’s fans like REAL soccer fans. And that whole Hooliganism problem…pales in comparison to the EVIL of swearing at players.

  71. doriangray says:

    Talk about disrespecting oneself, you’re an American Scum U supporter. You glory hunting creep. Piss off out of Philly…

  72. Philly Fan says:

    Um… S’cuse me… While we’re not lumping Philadelphia fans into “American Fans” I think it’s equally incorrect to correlate this behavior to “Philadelphia Fans”

    I, being a philly fan, and having been to several games, with groups of 50 people, have never (nor anyone in my group) acted like this.

    I think it’s safe to say the “Philly Fans” you’re referring to are ACTUALLY idiots who were on the past few seasons of the show “Jersey Shore” and don’t make up the group of “Philly Fans” out there.

    Not all Philly fans are idiots… let’s not go there…

  73. There was no hooligan violence. There was no group-endorced racism. No one got hurt. That elevates Philly fans over 99% of the rest of the world’s fans right there, including England’s.

    It’s a soccer game, it’s not church. Drink beer, have fun, sing and occasionally say “A**hole”. If you can’t handle that behavior, you’re being unreasonably sensitive.

    • Dave C says:

      Ugh…yawn…. why do people who don’t know anything about football always bring up “hooliganism” and “racism” as if they’re still somehow relevant in English football. Isn’t it time you stop basing your opinions on news reels from the mid 80′s (i.e. quarter of a century ago).

      I can’t speak for other countries, but I know that in England, widespread racism and hooliganism and racism has been absolulely unheard of for decades now.

      • DOOP #D.Sell says:

        Dave…Don’t be so naive

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A

        • Dave c says:

          Doop…I’m not naive, but I have a feeling you are just plain dumb. Spain and Italy are NOT part of England…you understand that, right?? So how do some clips of racism in Spain and Italy suggest that there is racism in England. That’s like me finding a video of some bullfighting in Mexico, and concluding that bullfighting is common in the USA.

          • Dave C says:

            Also, I speak from personal experience rather than just hyped-up clips on some US sports channel…I’ve been to plenty of professional games in England, from the old 4th division to the premier league. In all the games I’ve been to, I’ve never heard ANYONE shout or say anything racist, and the only violence I’ve seen was two fans of the same team fighting (in a crowd of thousands), and on another occasion, a handful of idiots (i.e. 10-20 out of 25,000) throwing chairs.

            On the other hand, I HAVE seen widespread hooliganism after a high-school basketball game in New York. But because I have some rationality, I will not conclude from that incident that racism, rioting and violence is ripe in basketball in America.

    • Phil says:

      Agreed. My kids come to the game with me. They are 3 and 5. The atmosphere is amazing at PPL park. Both my kids want to come back. If there is an occasional curse, and my kids repeat it, I just tell them not to. The SONS OF BEN are great. They should not change anything.

  74. Phil says:

    Not to beat a dead horse, but you’re aware that 60,000+ at Old Trafford chanted “Sit down your Pedophile” at Arsene Wenger for about 10 straight minutes right?

    Every third word you hear at any Premiership/Championship game is c*nt, so please stfu.

  75. JRich says:

    Open mouth, insert foot. It’s “C’mon the U.” Unfortunately, you’re not listening, you’re just making up whatever gets you hits on this bogus little blog.

    I love the irony of a NCian being a ManU fan. Lemme guess…you’ve got Yankees and Lakers memorabilia on your desk. I could except the UNC or Duke stuff since you live there, but you sound like you’ve got Front Runner written all over your resume.

    Get your facts straight. Philly is a rough city not a grassy knoll. We can be rabid, but in the metropolis it’s dog eat dog. The weak get eaten alive. Philly is made up of some of the smartest, most educated FANS in the country. We don’t hop on and off the band wagon. Our home games aren’t blacked out because our fans don’t show up. We scream and we cheer loud because we bleed the colors of our teams. Sorry if you came to Philly thinking that you were going to be able to sit and enjoy a quiet evening of pass the ball. Or maybe you’re just mad that we nearly pulled out a win ourselves.

    Bottom line, the chant was “C’mon the U!” Maybe next time, we’ll let you cheer with us.

  76. John says:

    I love seeing all of these feminine Man U supporters (bandwagoners) get all defense just because they didn’t get the respect they wanted. Why the hell would anyone respect your club? You think we are supposed to like Man U? Their players, management, owners, and most importantly bandwagoners are the biggest group of ignorant people I have ever seen.

    Grow a pair of balls and suck it up. You barely beat an MLS expansion team. I know all of your starters didn’t play, but still… You should be ashamed at the poor quality of your backups and reserves. I can assure you that Man U will not win the title this season, just as last.

    What’s so bad about chanting and insulting at an opposing team? They have no reason to respect Man U and I salute them for not falling into the endless line of Man U bandwagoners.

    • Badtz says:

      Man U barely beat an MLS expansion team, AND we put in our C-team for the second half while they brought on Berbatov. The Man U “fans” who were bragging after the match were hilarious.

  77. Norway Fjord says:

    Not having the facts straight doesn’t seem lend much credibility to the argument made in the article, mate.

  78. andrew sherlock says:

    And another thing, to the writer and the few who agreed with him, I’ll start caring what you have to say when you take the diaper off and the passifyer out of your mouths.

    And the dude from boston, its not just in our stadium. We’re passionate fans. I yelled “15 years no cup!” At a customer at my work because he had a redbulls jersey on. Learn what it means to be a fan. If you don’t have something nasty to say to a yankees fan, question your life. Because you suck as a redsox fan.

  79. Jeff says:

    Haha New York Philly and Boston baby. Meanest fans in the world.

  80. Megan says:

    I know us Philly fans don’t have the greatest rep, especially when it comes to Football games (meaning American football) HOWEVER. We are not chanting F*** YOU it is COME ON THE U. Meaning “Come on Union”. This is one thing I will stand up for since i know in the past with other sports we have a sketchy rep. But in this instance for the Philadelphia Union we are cheering Come on the U. No disrespect with that chant. I would hope the writer of this article would retract it or put an addition to this article to reflect what is actually being said.

  81. JollyFranklin says:

    Oh! I have an idea. Let’s take stories about Philly fans out of context, throw some erroneous statements in there about what some individuals MAY have done, and then blast an entire city. Hmmmmm. That would be REALLY original. Great piece of writing, you blithering, ignorant bandwagoner.

    Get a hearing aid. It’s “C’mon, the U!”

    Don’t let your mind wander. It’s far too small to be let out on its own.

  82. Cody says:

    It was the….
    Ice on the runway that made the airplane go down
    The airplane go down
    The airplane go down
    IT was the ice on the runway that made the airplane go down
    In the most…Delightful way

    • Dave C says:

      Hate to be a pedant, but the chant should be “aeroplane”, not “airplane”. Only a glory-hunting American would say “airplane”.

  83. Brett says:

    It sounds to me like you haven’t been to many real football matches so I have a few things to say. The f*ck you chant is a misunderstanding that a lot of people make, They were actually saying “come on the U”. This union fans have complained about as well, but it is just the way it sounds. The “you suck a hole”, is used by many teams in mls and throught thr world. It was being done at the Seattle v. Celtic. Match last week as well. I have personnally been to old trafford many times, and have seen far worse chants and songs (usually with racism and sectarian abuse). I m not sure if you were aware but it wasn’t long ago that man united was banned from European competition for the behavior and actions of it’s supporters. I have seen man u fans doing Nazi salutes and other terrible jesters (I can assure you those sobs were not doing Nazi salutes).
    Football can be a pretty intense game. Philly fans can be brutal but their behavior was the same as anyother supporters group in the world. At least they weren’t violent like fans in Europe can be (not nearly as bad as it was a decade ago). Man u fans for the vast vast majority are very friendly but go to an away match in Europe and believe me, you will see far worse behavior.
    It sounds to me like you can’t really handle the intensity of football fans , perhaps you should follow golf instead.

    • Dave C says:

      @ Brett: When you say “it wasn’t long ago that man united was banned from European competition for the behavior and actions of it’s supporters”, as far as I know you are absolutely wrong. I don’t remember Man Utd EVER being banned from Europe for the behavior of its supporters.

      I can only assume you are confusing this with the ban on ALL English teams in the late 80′s as a result of LIVERPOOL supporter’s actions at Heysel.

      You’re so mixed up that I wonder if all your anecdotes about nazi salutes and racist/sectarian abuse can be taken seriously.

  84. esc4life says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXDSAbb4_R0

    The so called best supporters in north america the union? watch this

    • JollyFranklin says:

      Hahaha! You’re comparing our supporters to yours based on an early season, relatively meaningless cup game that was mid-week and your own fans in the back yard of RBA didn’t even make it out in any numbers. Look at all those empty seats at RBA. You are too funny. I look forward to 10/16.

    • slitz says:

      love how you conveniently forgot the league match 3 days prior where SOB had more fans than ESC. typically NY clown

      15 years…

    • JRich says:

      It was a Tuesday in April in Newark. This was a road game for us. Red Bulls barely had more fans there than we did and it was in their own stadium. Another sad display of the facts.

    • Johnny says:

      Are you kidding? This was a non-league game on a Tuesday night. I attended – the home fans had all of 1,000 fans in attendance. Two days prior, in the same venue, the SoBs alone shouted down a relatively large RBNY crowd – namely, 1,500.

      Go back to your 15 years and no titles, schmuck. Even as an expansion side, we’ll win before you ever do and already outdraw you.

      • DOOP #D.Sell says:

        ESC4Life…you are a douche, if this video proves that you sold 1,000 tickets to a home game then you proved your point. You are a joke…a joke

  85. Gaz Hunt says:

    Just saw even more comments from the wet blankets about the lack of respect to United and how people with United shirts had insults flying at them.

    Good!

    If you can go to someone else’s stadium and not hear some crap, there’s something wrong. Especially if you’re wearing the opponent’s strip.

    Not only does this this make me proud as a Philly native (going to my first Union game on the 31st) but also as a lifelong Liverpool supporter. :)

  86. Dirty Pete says:

    I didn’t have enough time to read this entire thread, where there were obviously many people both agreeing and disagreeing with your viewpoint. Some were heated, some were measured, but I have to bring up a point that seems to be neglected…

    “Any given day” — You can’t base your entire thought system of Philadelphia based on a single appearance at a game. As a season ticket holder in the supporters section, I welcome you to come to PPL park for a few games and see what we have to offer to our favorite team. It isn’t this horrible experience you seem to think comes tied to being a Philadelphia fan.

    What you’re doing is generalizing; you’re forming a stereotype based on misinformation from a small sampling of the greater experience. This alone invalidates the rant you’ve posted.

  87. James C says:

    I’m a member of the Sons of Ben and it’s not “F*ck You”, it’s “C’MON THE U”!! You should do your research before writing such an damning article. You can find the list of Union songs/chants on the Sons of Ben website (sonsofben.com) or phillysongs.net

    Poor journalism strikes again.

    Perhaps it was your long drive that contributed your being unable to discern what you were hearing.

  88. zander says:

    I wish I could give 0 stars to this trash article. Learn more about what’s going on before you decide to write something up and post it online. The author obviously didn’t take the time to figure what the hell was actually happening and instead decided to make up some BS.

  89. Z. Jackson says:

    This post is an embarrassment to this blog. It reeks of entitlement, lack of understanding of any sort of fan culture – MLS, English or otherwise – and the novice gloryhunting throughout is just laughable (“way to welcome one of the biggest clubs in the universe?” as if the entire world should just bow down at the sight of the red shirt).

    Considering that the oh-so-holy Man United fans consistently call Arsene Wenger a pedophile in their “songs,” or that the author could have maybe asked around to get confirmation that Union fans were, in fact, saying “F-ck You” (but why would you begin to try to understand a fan culture that you are not a part of? Oh- probably because you’ve been to plenty of baseball games and they don’t act that way there), or that even at the Red Bulls vs. Tottenham game I attended last night, the Red Bulls fans chanted the same, exact “You Suck A-Hole!!!” chant that the “we should remember we are playing the glorious Manchester United and should sing their praises” brutes in Philadelphia shouted, I suppose we should all just forget everything we have ever learned about this game, go blow on some vuvuzelas (that’s what they do in soccer, right?), and rush to find the nearest Gabriel Obertan shirt we can find, since after scoring against Philadelphia Union, he is clearly going to be the next Dwight Yorke (“who’s Dwight Yorke?”).

    Also, remind The Gaffer to take the “News and Analysis of the English Premier League” tag off of this site, since now we are clearly hand-holding the kiddies around here…

  90. Robbie says:

    Wow typicall American fans. I know they dont represent the lot of fans on the continent but I am sure when some of them go to a football match they have no clue whats going on and ask themselves “whats this”. Personally stick with your American sports and leave footall to people who understand it. If you have no interest in football then don’t go to “soccer” matches. You can’t transfer chants from other sports into football. It doesn’t require to grow a brain and be creative.The game in Toronto was awesome and way more civilzied. Kansas city should be alright, leading to the MLS All Star game in Houston and into Gaudalajara.

    • Sid says:

      For me, people like this guy are the worst kind of soccer fans that give the sport a bad name in the US. Overly entitled, acting like they know more than anyone else, and is actually against the growth of the game.

      I know you’d rather it stay a little niche sport in the US so you can act smarter than everyone else and make your ignorant insults of “American sports” but that’s just not the way things are going.

      The game is growing in the US. The Union sell out every game at PPL and fill the stadium with raucous fans. That’s a GOOD thing. You’re just going to have to accept the fact that America is embracing the game and making it their own. And let’s be honest, fans in the US are far more “civilized” when rooting for soccer than nearly anywhere else in the world. The worst fan incidents of all time are ALL related to soccer and none of them happened in the US.

      If you want to sit quietly in a stadium and cry every time someone acts “uncivilized” move to london and root for Arsenal.

    • JeffreyM says:

      Were you There? It was equal give and take by fans of both teams. Don’t let one misquided writer give you the wrong idea.

  91. DOOP #D.Sell says:

    I love it! Welcome to Philly…but for real. American fans of ManU have no clue how really sophisticated we are compared to true English fans. Now you might find a “You suck A*hole” chant here or there. But what you won’t see, my innocent lil ManU fans, are people throwing bananas and making monkey noises at a player just because of the color of his skin. We may wave our SOB’s flags and scarves but will not wave flags with Swastika’s on them. OHHHH you didn’t know this sort of thing happens at matches on the regular in England? I would say our sport may be new and growing in the US, but England, and other European countries are 100 years behind us in respect for fellow human beings. Sorry if the traffic was bad and someone said the “A” word but seriously stop painting Philly and the SOB’s as being classless.

    • Dave C says:

      Oh god, another one…

      Please find me even ONE reliable news article ANYWHERE that talks about fans in England making monkey noises or throwing bananas any time in the last 25 years (at least). And I have never heard of Swastika flags being waved by English fans EVER. Please find me an article that mentions that EVER happening. Seriously, are you insane? You really think this kind of thing “happens on the regular in England”.

      I grant you, maybe in a crowd of thousands, you might occasionally get one or two bold racists (not a news-worthy quantity) who would shout something offensive. But free-speech laws are not nearly as liberal in Europe as they are in the US, so any such idiots would generally find themselves kicked out of the stadium at best, and fined/jailed at worst.

      As for Nazi flags, I KNOW you are just making that up. I mean do you seriously think anyone would unfurl a Nazi flag amongst a crowd of English people, and not get beaten to a pulp???

      • Dave C says:

        @ Doop again: “England, and other European countries are 100 years behind us in respect for fellow human beings”…. ha seriously? Your post makes sense now – I realize you are insane, AND have never been to Europe.

  92. Jim says:

    So basically this fair weather front cheering soccer fan is upset that we didnt put his “team” up on high and kiss their butt. I am sorry but I do not care who you are in whatever city you are in. The home city should not have to kiss anyone butt anywhere cause some snobs think their team is such an amazing team that we have been graced with your presence. If this guy had been to more then one game he would know what the atmostphere is like all over be it at a union game at PPL Park or a United game at Old.

  93. Sid says:

    When is the author of this post going to apologize for their characterization of the Union chants? They’ve been corrected a number of times in the comments and yet there’s been no change in the article. This hit piece should be amended or taken off the site. There’s blatant lies in it.

  94. Daniel Feuerstein says:

    Ethiene, being from NYC I had to tolerate Philly fans all the time. Either the Knicks, Rangers, Jets or the past World Series with the Yankees & Phillies. This is the only advice I can give you about the Sports fans in Philadelphia.

    IT’S PHILLY! WHAT DO YOU WANT?! ;)

    • Matt says:

      “IT’S PHILLY! WHAT DO YOU WANT?!”

      That’s classic coming from a New Yorker. Yes, your reputation is SOOOO much better than Philly’s.

      Sidenote: I hate the New York teams but dig the passion of their fans. at least our cities REALLY support our teams.

      • Daniel Feuerstein says:

        Come on Matty ;) If he isn’t going to understand the classic Philadelphian Sports Fan, it has to be a New Yorker to show him the ropes. :D

  95. Allez-Philadelphie says:

    C’mon the U
    C’mon the U
    C’mon the U, C’mon the U, C’mon the U

  96. Matt says:

    So everyone who is a fan of the Union has basically come on here and reiterated that the chant is “C’mon the U!” and not “F#@K You” and yet the bashing still persists. I get that Philly has a reputation but when we’ve tried to clarify what’s being said as it relates to the article and the accusation that’s been thrown out you don’t want to here it. Further, each of you just decided to jump on the Philly Bash train and ignore the facts. So the question should be who are the real classless, immature fools?

    At least man up and acknowledge you’re wrong about this specific topic.

  97. Jon says:

    I’m a Union fan, and am admittedly annoyed by the “You suck a**hole” chant. I want something more creative, fun and witty.

    However, this chant is not unique to Union fans. You can hear the same exact chant yelled during goal kicks in Seattle (where it is even more pronounced…oh, but I guess we can’t criticize Seattle) and other MLS venues.

    Here’s a sample from a non-Union match:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3Jh_WFWwc

  98. The Gaffer says:

    The author of the post has apologized to Philadelphia Union fans and regrets the things that were said. It sounds to me like a simple mistake. Hearing something in a crowded stadium and thinking it was one thing when it was actually something else.

    Apologies to my readers.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

    • patrick says:

      then why is this crap still on the web?

      and I don’t think that was really the writer saying sorry. That is unless they also admitted to sleeping with family.

      might want to read the post again there Gaff.

  99. Chapka says:

    You know what the Sons of Ben didn’t do at the Linc against Man United?

    First of all, they didn’t sing, “Adebayor, Adebayor, His father washes elephants, his mother is a whore.” That was Man U fans.

    It wasn’t the Union fans singing “Who’s that dying on the runway, who’s that dying in the snow,” either. That’s what other Premier League fans sing at Old Trafford about the Munich air disaster.

    Union fans also didn’t sing the traditional Manchester United ditties, “Who The F—— Hell Are You,” “F— Off Mourinho,” “You Support A Load Of S—,” or “F— Off to the Championship.”

    And that’s without getting into the Hillsborough songs sung at Old Trafford, which are a hell of a lot more offensive than “F— You” would be if anyone had actually been singing it. I didn’t hear “Ninety-Six Reasons to be Cheerful” coming from the Sons of Ben.

    Of course, United fans weren’t singing those either last night. That’s because most of the 40,000 people there in red jerseys were Americans who had only ever been to Old Trafford once in their lives and who sat on their hands the whole match, allowing a few thousand Philadelphia fans to outsing them the whole night.

    • JRich says:

      Haha..well said!

    • RedMD says:

      I am a United supporter who was a the match. It did sound like the union supporters in their end were yelling F-you but even if they werent, really who cares, it would have been pedestrian in comparison to what else gets said out there around Europe.

      However, get off your f-ing high horse…United supporters do their fair share of offensive singing at some matches, just as whoever they are playing sing back, it’s something everyone does and has been doing for almost 100 years. So, yeah, perhaps you dislike United for whatever reason, fine, but give it a rest. Arsenal supporters have picked up the Adebayor song by now, Leeds supporters always love the munich disaster songs (not to mention Liverpool and City to name a few), Liverpool loved the “f-off mourinho” and not to mention a nice one about “JT’s Ma who loves the scouse c**k”…I could go on and on about everyone.

      Bottom line, this is all ado about nothing.

  100. Ryan says:

    Thank you Ethiene. It takes guts to admit a mistake. You should come up to PPL sometime; it is a tremendous atmosphere. Best of luck to you.

  101. Geess says:

    Here’s an audio clip of the “C’Mon the U” chant…. http://bit.ly/cmTwA7

    • The Gaffer says:

      Based on listening to that audio track, it does sound like ‘F… you’ at first, so I can understand how Ethiene may have thought it said that instead of ‘C’mon U’ or ‘C’mon the U.’

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

  102. Ethiene Rodriguez's Mom says:

    I TOLD YOU TO STAY AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ETHEL! NOW GO BACK TO THE BASEMENT AND PLAY YOUR VIDJA GAMES!

  103. Will says:

    Dude, you were an opposing team’s fan coming into their stadium. What did you expect? Would you have had a warmer reception at Anfield or Stamford Bridge? I don’t think so.

    Also, if you can’t take swears at a sporting event, grow up or go watch a baseball game.

  104. Bfritz says:

    As a Union founding member who purchased my tickets 2 1/2 years ago and who also knows the original 10 or so founding members of SOB, I’m in agreement with the writer. Last week 2 posting to youtube posting of the “a&&hole” chant had 130 + replies on FB.. While Most SOBs didn’t feel they chants warrented complaints , but they do..These complaints originated from Union supporters and even a portion of SOB…I don’t know what it will take to get these chants disallowed as they would be coming from any other fan sitting next to a child in other sections.. But after having 2 seperate people not want the free gift of my Union tickets, because they don’t want their children subjected to this environment..

    We went from 35+ supporters at our 1st to games, down to 16000 our last league match, and I know that at least some families are not coming because of these chants..

    So I apologise and thank you for this posting. I want other American and International fans to know, that not ALL Philadelphia fans are so classless and unimaginative as our supporters group SOB seems to be! I personally will do my part by sending it to our FO and to the MLS commishioners office to see if we can’t revoke thier “favored” supporters group status.. If they can’t clean upo thier own behaviour, then it’s up to us other 95% founding members to complain publically.
    Bob Fritz
    Philadelphia

    • JollyFranklin says:

      Our first two games were at the Linc, which can seat way more than the 18,500 PPL seats. Also, the last league game attendance was 17,251, and remember that MLS requires teams to hold 1,000 seats back until just before game day. You should agree with the writer. You can’t get your facts straight either.

    • Paul says:

      Uhh…PPL Park is far smaller than the Linc, that’s the reason for the attendance drop.

      The Sons of Ben are tame compared to most groups of that nature. If you can’t handle a little bit of swearing, maybe you shouldn’t be going to sporting events.

    • DOOP #D.Sell says:

      You are kidding? Right? Who is this guy…Johnny Sensitive Socks?

      • Matt SOB says:

        So your saying the SOB are unimaginative and classless? I hope your “10 or so founding members of SOB” friends set you straight.
        A. You obviously don’t know the chants. Have the “10 or so” people you know direct you over to http://www.sonsofben.com. Our code of conduct is listed there, along with all the chants.
        B. As pointed out by the other replies above, the Linc is WAY BIGGER than PPL. Its also a little easier to access and not in a neighborhood with a curfew. Thus more attendance.
        C. Go tell your “10 or so” SOB founding members that you want the MLS to “revoke our favored status” over the use of the word A**hole. I’m sure that will go over well. You obviously don’t know what the Sons of Ben have done since 2007 to help get this team to Philadelphia.
        D. Spell Check.

    • Shag says:

      Bob,

      I’m also a Union founding member and SoB. Most soccer fans understand that these sorts of chants go with the territory. For those that don’t know this, well then they haven’t really been paying attention now have they? Part of the reason MLS has grown is because the league and teams have begun marketing to the enthusiastic fan as opposed to the family. Why? Because fans show up every week and families show up once a season.

      Instead of writing to the team and league bashing a group that has been at the forefront of bring MLS to Philly, ask the FO to designate a section as family friendly and sit there (the Flyers have a section like this). Your letter writing campaign will likely be more successful. Plus the team would really be shooting themselves in the foot by abandoning their core group. You want to see soccer in Philly die? Take us out of the equation and that’s exactly what you’ll get.

      That chant has been around MLS forever and it will be hard to get 3000 SoBs chanting something else. It’s already spread to other portions of PPL. How about you make a better suggestion for the goal kick chant? We’re all ears. Many folks have been making suggestions but nothing has really stuck yet. I’d like to see something more original too. The SoBs would love to set a new standard for a long standing goal kick chant. Maybe we’ll even name it after you and call it “The Bob!” Think about your place in soccer history!

      As for those families not coming back, that’s fine. They can go to an Eagles game to hear much worse. Or maybe get puked on at a Phillies game. The point is, if you take your family to any sporting event, you should expect to hear these things. I won’t be bringing my kids to ANY sporting event for a few years still. And when I do, I’ll let my kids know what to expect, why and that it’s not appropriate for them to repeat what they hear. Talking to your kids is about responsibility.

    • SoB Bolton says:

      Bob, if the team had a problem with it, they would have said something already. The only thing they ever said to us was asking me mid-game if we were saying “f you” at the first PPL match. If the league had a problem with it they would have stopped every other supporters’ group in the country doing it. And again you assume the other “95%” (it’s not that high) have a problem with it, and not just some old guy with a stick up his ass. You sure like associating with us during games and tailgates, then acting all big on the Internet later, before going “oh I’m sorry I was off my medication.” Just go away.

  105. Union Made says:

    1. The Sons of Ben do not chant, “F*** You.” They chant, “C’mon the U!” The latter is often mistaken for the former.

    2. As a former resident of London and Chelsea season ticket holder, I assure you that, if anything, Philadelphia Union fans are genteel compared to those found at any venue in the EPL. Over the course of the last two decades, I have visited soccer stadiums around the globe and in so doing have witnessed regular and routine racism, profanity and vulgarity of the lowest possible degree. (“Chapka,” above, did us the courtesy of listing a few specific examples of such uncouth behavior.) One simply does not encounter anything comparable at any MLS game, much less in Philadelphia, where expressing so much as one racist sentiment (or acting to intimidate opposing fans) is grounds for expulsion not only from the grounds, but from supporters’ club membership as well. Those skeptical may consult the Sons of Ben website: it’s right there in the charter and is taken quite seriously.

    3. As for the litany of non-Philadelphians insisting that, “EVERYBODY knows Philly fans are the worst”: while it’s easy to stereotype, it’s far harder to confront the ugly reality of contemporary sports. At virtually every major sporting event in the contemporary United States, there is a vocal subset of (often drunken) louts who consider intimidation, vulgarity and the abuse of opposing players and fans to be an integral element of the fan experience. Those who insist that this is unique to Philadelphia are deluding themselves. I invite any such parties to attend a Yankees game in Red Sox attire, a Steelers game in Ravens attire, or a Red Wings game in Blackhawks attire, to provide a few examples.

    • Spookster says:

      Well put, Union Made!

      While the quintessential Philly fan is often the louts you cite (see above comments about battery filled snowballs and urinating on opposing team coaches), it’s easy to make the leap to assign the same blame/actions to Union fans.

      From what I have seen, that is not the case. They are loud and unwavering supporters of their team.

      Cheers to the Union and the Sons of Ben!! Keep up the good work, fellows!

  106. Quinn says:

    Ethiene, did you mean to say fornicate? I had to do a double take, but you couldn’t have meant to say fornicate in that sentence.

  107. jenny says:

    Yes, I am a Son of Ben.

    Just putting this out there…from my memory we sang 1 song with a curse word in it, quite a propos for the evening.
    To the toon of Yankee Doodle Dandy:
    “C’mon Union score a goal,
    Its really very simple,
    Put the ball into the net,
    And we’ll go f***in mental!”

    Outside of that the evening consisted of
    “Philadelphia” *clap clap clapclapclap*
    “C’mon the U, C’mon the U, C’monthUC’montheUC’monthe U”
    Four Leaf Clover (sung at 20:10, this being our inaugural year)
    the chorus of Union Maid
    Vindaloo
    Mahna Mahna (replace Mahna Mahna with Sons of Ben)
    1 Zolo chant (normally reserved for corner kicks and often misheard as well, repeat the word “Zolo” ad nauseum, a nickname for the team)
    and the lambasted (amongst ourselves even) “You Suck, A**hole*

    And, the only fight that I heard of was started by Man U fans in a parking lot before the game, while I watched a Man U fan sitting in the Union Supporter Section (labelled as such when purchasing tickets) try and pick a fight. Now, he did this while commenting on getting to see Man U score on the keeper in front of us, apparently ignorant that teams change sides at the half. He also couldn’t name a single starter for Man U, let alone the 5 that somebody bet him that he couldn’t do. We didn’t pay him much mind.

    Thanks for the retraction, just trying to put some more information out there.

  108. Union Made says:

    BTW, if you seriously think the Union have no actual songs, chants, or cheers, maybe you should visit http://www.phillysongs.net.

  109. TrueBlanck says:

    We have purchased non supporter section season tickets due to the age of our son. While we are soccer fans who’ve traveled to other MLS games as well and knew PRIOR to EVER being to a Union game what happens in the supporter section of matches. Personally the language and rowdiness does not offend my wife or myself and I’m sure in a few years my son will be eager to sit in the supporters section. I can see why a newbie might be a little surprised at language but someone who is familiar with both MLS and international clubs should know this is the standard.
    And for the record, we’ve been to both home game at the Linc and now three games at PPL and never heard any unison F*** chants.

  110. Andy says:

    Your not a Manchester United fan, your from North Carolina, your a tourist. You have no connection to the club, other than what is the world wide brand and the buying of a shirt each season. This is from me someone who lives 5 minutes from Old Trafford, a season ticket holder for countless years. You don’t have a clue about football. If you are offended by a chant which says ‘f*** you’ don’t come and sit in Stretford End, K Stand or any United away game. You’d go home crying your eyes out. Frankie tourists and the like are what’s been ruining the English game. You pay god knows how much for a ticket, you turn up, have a ‘bud’, or meal, sit down somewhere in either the quads or the North Stand and say nothing. If you know a chant its just either ‘United, clap clap’ and that’s about it. The real MUFC fans would see you as a joke for writing this. Its cringe worthy to even read and its a blight on Manchester United good name. Chanting is a big part of football, there are some very offensive chants, sang by Utd fans and other clubs, if you don’t know that go and watch Tennis. You’ll be welcome there.

    • doriangray says:

      Real supporter in the States (including me) hate United because of these glory hunting, made and marketed for TV, tourists (as you so aptly put it). As far as the true fans, we do have much respect. Except on match days… on those days you can f*cking piss off out of our ground and die for all I care.

      That said, thanks for explaining things to out Carolina idiot.

    • tonyspeed says:

      that made you feed good didn’t it? why don’t you shutup and jack of to a picture of cantona will ya?

  111. Steve says:

    It’s amazing how quickly people jump to any conclusion that supports their inner hatred.

    Not to pick on United, they’re no worse than any other EPL team, but these are just some of the words from ManU songs and chants:
    I said b******s you’re a c***;
    I’d rather s*** a bucket with a big hole in it,
    then be a City fan for just one minute…
    _____
    Going to die, Going to die, Malcolm Glazer’s going to die
    How we kill him I don’t know, cut him up from head to toe
    All I know is Glazer’s going to die
    ______
    Build a bonfire,
    Build a bonfire,
    Put the Scousers on the top,
    Put City in the middle,
    And we’ll burn the f*cking lot
    ______
    Drink, drink, wherever you may be,
    We are the drunk and disorderly,
    And we don’t give a f*ck, and we don’t give a sh*t,
    We’re going home with the championship.
    _______

    Here’s a link: http://red11.org/mufc/songs.htm

  112. Brendan says:

    Lets just delete this and pretend it never happened. The author has been so embarrassed he won’t even come back and defend half his nonsense.

    Oh noes the other fans ribbed me about being a bandwagon fan!!! Oh wait you are a bandwagon fan.

  113. Tim says:

    A recording of the CMON the U chant is here. Does kind of sound like F you but it’s not. I’ve been to NFL games as a kid at arrow head stadium. After the chiefs scored a touchdown they played the hey song but added their own lyrics. It like this. Na na na hey… we will beat the H*** out of you. University of Alabama has a famous chant at football games. That goes like Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer give them H**** Alabama. After all of this my life turned out to be ok.

    http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0L_7uU7PgF8MWZjNTA3OTktNWVhYi00MTI5LWE2MGEtMmE5ZjQxYjExOWE0&hl=en

  114. SoB Bluehead says:

    Again, another example of a nobody “journalist” not only giving their opinion when nobody was asking for it, but basing it on false and incomplete information.

    But as we are the city of brothery love, I do accept your apology, as I’m sure the majority of Union fans and Sons of Ben do as well. Thank you for owning up to your mistake, as very few actually do.

  115. Tony says:

    Just to let you in on a little secret…
    1. Its “C’mon the U” not “Eff You”.
    2. Every supporters section in the MLS, including the USA Nation teams supporters say “you suck a**hole.”

    Your point of singling out the Sons of Ben (Union supporters) of being disrespectful is ridicules and ignorant due to the fact that you do not even know what the chant was even being said.

  116. njndirish says:

    Ethiene, considering you’re from NC, I have these sites for you depending on where you are located:
    http://www.carolinarailhawks.com/ http://trisoccerfan.com/
    http://www.carolinadynamo.com/site/ http://www.battlegroundnc.com/

    Make your choice and go to games, it’s much more fun than waking up at 7 am on a Saturday and you get to support American soccer instead of some club over 1000 miles away that you potentially have no direct relation to.

  117. Bang the Drum says:

    I’d like to say anyone in the stadium wearing read that was not from England should shove it. I’d rather watch the Yankees win than even look at a Man U player.

    I did not attend the game for these reasons, but I was happy that While sitting on the couch I could sing along with the supporters, since they were coming through the set well enough to be heard (if you knew what You were listening for)

    Additionally isn’t Vindaloo a song for the English national team. Similar status as Wankers United, I don’t like England’s “Football” team one bit.

    That is all.

    PS Maybe we should just start telling everyone we Are chanting “F*** You” I have no problem empowering the ignorant.

  118. No, thanks. says:

    Any parent who is a football (soccer) fan, knows that all chants aren’t going to be G rated. We have taught our son what is, and what is not appropriate without the help of the FO of an MLS team. Being shocked & offended over “you s*ck a**hole” gives the words more power & leaves a bigger impression on the mind of a child.
    Perhaps a “family friendly” section is a good idea; but do we really have to police an entire arena because WE choose to bring our child to a match?

  119. Bryan says:

    The amount of energy people from other cities use to fuel their hatred for Philadelphia fans is pitiful. We should all feel bad for these people with so much hatred in their heart for a group of people, the majority of whom they don’t even know!

    I don’t think I know anyone in history who base their hatred for a large culture of people solely on stereotypes. Well, except for Hitler. And Stalin. And Bin Laden. etc.

  120. Union_Staple says:

    OK. I eyes feel like they are bleeding and I think I have read enough to comment.
    1. This is a big boy’s game.
    2. Don’t be so sensitive.
    3. The part that I didn’t see mentioned was that SIr Alex Feguson was quoted in saying, “This is just the kind of preseason game we needed” and “There was a great atmosphere and the supporters were great”…that being said, listen to him and stop trying to slander a group.
    4. Also, since you’re not from philly, you didn’t get to see the announcers interview Bryan Robson (he is a legend at Manchester United, as I assume you have no idea who he was). BR was going on and on about how great the atmosphere was at the Union’s PPL Park and how loud and fantastic the Union supporters are, and this park and its supporters reminds him of English stadiums and supporters.

    I really don’t think there is anything left to say that hasn’t already been said.

  121. tazed says:

    Ethiene grow a pair you wuss.

    Respect for Philly from San Jose. That is the kind of atmosphere that will make MLS successful.

    Making soccer rated-G will ruin it. Only soccer moms will buy tickets.

  122. SOB Ange says:

    Sir,
    Thank you for the retraction. I know how hard it is to admit that a mistake was made. I work in the TV business, I know. The only reason the SOB’s have been singled out is because we have a WHOLE SECTION (2,000 seats) and EVERYONE is chanting. That’s why You suck A**HOLE is so obvious. Unfortunately, at some other MLS games you could hear a pin drop despite the efforts of their (god love em) Supporters. I actually stop at you suck (sometime is the goalkeeper is an A**hole) then I’ll let it go. ;)
    I have also had to explain “C’mon the U” to a few of my coworkers in the past few weeks and they are cool with it and plan to help spread the CORRECT wording throughout their section and correct the misunderstanding to those around them. COMMUNICATION is a wonderful thing.
    That’s what makes America great and the SOB’s the greatest Supporters group in the MLS!

    I will defend to the death your right to have you say, but I expect you ALL to give me the right to have my say too. However, I will not police your kids. You had them, they are your responsibility. Give yourself a little credit mom and dad!

    C’mon the U! C’mon the U! C’mon the U! C’mon the U! C’mon the U!
    Peace,

  123. Mike in Idaho says:

    It pains me to defend Philadelphia but worse things than foul language occur all over the world. I have attended NHL games in Vancouver where friends of mine were wearing the jersey and supporting the visiting team and I saw everything from people wanting to fight them outside the arena to various taunts, my favorite and most printable of which was “What’s the matter, lose a bet?” My wife was harassed for wearing a visiting jersey to a hockey game in Boston. I was in Milan on the final day of the Serie A season in 2008 to watch AC Milan and bought a cheap jersey outside the stadium for the occasion. After the game, I had the misfortune to get out of the Metro in the middle of the Inter impromptu victory parade since they had clinched the Serie A title at the same time. I immediately started getting pushed and shoved by an Inter fan that was a little too happy about his team’s victory and was advised by a more sensible Inter fan to take the Milan jersey off for my own safety. Most people were nice and good natured but there will always be a few jerks in every crowd, but I would never have worn that jersey to the Inter victory parade if I had known where it was going to be.
    I guess what I am trying to say is you need to expect abuse if you are going to a game supporting the visiting team and wearing their colors, unless you go to a Florida Panthers hockey games where more people support the visiting team, whoever it is, than the home team. Personally, I think friendly abuse is fine as long as it doesn’t turn physical or threatening but be aware there are some people who may cross the line.

    • tonyspeed says:

      yeah. he’s fortunate. in some countries people go to the hospital for wearing the opposing jersey outside the park.

  124. Bunch of Twits says:

    Wow, this is rich, soccer fans ragging on Philly fans. Just Google soccer violence and then come back and talk about Philly fans. Friggin’ hypocrites….

  125. PP says:

    Stop whinning. You should be proud we have passionate fans.

    Go see a game in Roma, see how they treat ManU over there.

  126. guwinster says:

    When are you going to write about how ManU “disrespected themselves” by almost losing to the worst team in MLS.

    • Who you!!! says:

      guwinster July 23, 2010 at 5:57 pm
      When are you going to write about how ManU “disrespected themselves” by almost losing to the worst team in MLS.

      how did they almost lose when union never scored? Almost tied is a little more accurate.

  127. Tim says:

    My name is Tim
    i am 26 and i live in Delaware. Most people dont know where that is but where i live is the north and about a 15-20 min drive to the philadelphia stadiums. What you write here about the philly fans is not fiction by any stretch of the imagination, the only problem is yer about 30 years too late expressing it. It’s been too long for it to be a matter of right or wrong. Its the way it is, if fans dont like it then dont come. We are the fans that threw batteries at santa, and we heckle any supporter of another club or team. We have the Eagles, the Phillies, the Flyers and the 6ers!!!! I am to a United fan, i will not go back on United ever. I will support the union during MLS games, but other then that its all United, i sat in the stadium wearing my United jersey and loved every minute of it. No true philly fan will say sorry for hurting yer precious little feelings. Alot of other teams fans hate us because of our fans. Thats just fine with us. We didnt disrespect ourselves as philly fans. United fans were on the other side of the field doing the same. We hope you had a good time!!!

  128. Tim says:

    years of rioting and killings and injuries due to matches. and yer crying about philly fans yelling “F you” grow up ya cry baby!!!!!!!!

  129. Philly = lower market value than Baghdad says:

    What can you expect from a people who treat the streets outside their own homes (what’s left of them) as a trashcan other than people who are trash themselves too? Philadelphia is the number 1 (gotta be first in something hey?!) cultural wasteland and the biggest backwater ghetto of America.

    • Dave C says:

      Cultural wasteland?? Yeah, apart from being the birthplace of the nation. If Philly is a cultural wasteland, then I’d hate to see what you think of every other city in America (apart from NYC and Washington DC)

      • Bob says:

        Congratulations sir, you have posted the dumbest comment in the history of the internet. Even the harshest critics of the city are not crazy enough to call the city a cultural wasteland. Let’s review shall we? Philadelphia with maybe the exception of Boston has the best Universities and Colleges in the country. Ever heard of the Philly Big 5? Philadelphia also has some of the best hospitals in the nation. Ever hear of Chop (Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, Penn Hospital, Temple Hospital, Thomas Jefferson? Philadelphia also is full of science and arts. Ever heard of the Kimmel Center, Philadelphia Art Museum or the Franklin Institute? Philadelphia’s history is among the richest in the nation. Ever here of the Liberty Bell, Independence Mall (Only where the Declaration of Independence was signed, no biggie), Betsy Rose House? Philadelphia is also one of the most diverse cities in the nation. But hey at least your comment is well supported in evidence though, I got to give that to you.

  130. Ethiene Rodriguez says:

    I have actually not apologized, and will not. while i am aware that there are bad fans everywhere, i was really astonished at how unoriginial the chanting was. it was a reaction to the match that i wrote, i dont care that i am a usa manchester united fan, i was introduced to them by a fan of 45 years, and i know exactly what other fans are like, i know theres problems with violence, and racism, it doesn’t mean the sons of ben didn’t embarass temselves, and i say this because the europeans i was able to enjoy the match with were laughing at how unoriginal the chanting was, calling them a “one trick pony”.it was really a shame that is all they could come up with. I support American football, and i am an avid national team fan, i am not a fan of the mls, however. It is just not entertaining to watch, and if i watch it on television it is even worse. I apologize i didnt answer earlier as I am still traveling.

    ps: i realize i heard one of the chants wrong, and i do apologize for that.
    “you suck asshole” however is ridiculously dumb and makes you sound like a dumb hooligan, and if you dont realize that, then you are THAT guy

    • Dan says:

      May I ask: are you in this country legally? The whole “Rodriguez” thing, you know… don’t want you unwittingly ending up in Arizona.

    • This One Guy in Detroit says:

      OK, wait, I’m confused. Is this really Ethiene Rodriguez here in the comments? Because this “I have actually not apologized” bit seems to conflict pretty significantly with the update that is now attached to the original post.

      A little clarity would be helpful here.

      Also confusing: the fact that there are comments BELOW this one, timestamped from earlier today.

      Finally, anyone want to make an official estimate of how many people here posted the same sort of “That wasn’t F-CK YOU! That was C’MON THE U!” comments? It’s like, OK, OK, we got it the first three dozen times!

      • The Gaffer says:

        Detroit, it’s a long story, but the comment from Ethiene is from the real Ethiene. Someone posted a comment on the site earlier on Friday claiming to be Ethiene and apologizing. I made the mistake of believing it was Ethiene, posted the apology at the top of her post, but when I found out it was in fact someone else, and after Ethiene refused to apologize, I updated the post and removed her apology but added my own. Confusing, I know, but it’s been a long day!

        Cheers,
        The Gaffer

        • This One Guy in Detroit says:

          Haha, wow, what a mess. Sorry you’ve had to deal with this brouhaha, but as they’d say in TV — with 280-ish comments, it appears to be good for ratings!

    • Matthew N says:

      You rag on our supporter culture but you have had no hand in building it. Even I, as a supporter of my local MLS side, know our chants are unoriginal. Unfortunately, our supporters groups are too young and disorganized to get to anything more complex and/or original. Give us time and we will have sing song like the Europeans, but we are just too short in the tooth.

      If this really is the author of this post, please don’t write here anymore. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

      • patrick says:

        exactly… slagging off the Union for unorginal chants is like smacking a baby for crying. They’ve played like 20 matches. EVER.

        what an idiot.

    • Gaz Hunt says:

      I try not to rag on fellow writers too much but seriously… be a big boy.

      Own up to the fact that you were offended by a MLS team calling your “biggest team in the universe” names. Anyone reading the article can see you’re offended that a insignificant team like the Union would dare do anything but welcome United with open arms not that they didn’t put it into clever song form.

      As said, I’m proud of my boys for making the stadium feel like a real stadium. You shouldn’t be comfortable walking into someone else’s stadium with the visitor’s strip on. Period.

      If you really are only upset that the chants aren’t original, come back in a few years. The stadium and fans have only been around for a few months. Give them time develop some history that the European fans have a significant head-start on and they will develop the profanity into clever songs. :)

    • Phil says:

      Wow, your response is even more embarassing. A group of supporters bust thier rear end to get a soccer team in Philly. You complain about thier vulgarity. When it becomes obvious that you are an idiot and have know idea what real soccer fans are like, you change your mind and talk about originality. Hey guess what, soccer has been in this town for less than a year. Soccer has been at Old Trafford for over a hundred hasn’t it. Give us some time before we can progress to the real nasty stuff they say at old Trafford.

      You don’t find MLS entertianing. Fine, continue to watch your Eurosnob teams on TV. Keep in mind this. Landon Donovan the face of MLS. Rooney is the face of EPL. Who was better up at the world cup?

      If the EPL was so superior, then thier reserves should be siginificantly better than MLS starters. But, on Wednesday night, and below average group of MLS starters kicked Man U ass in the first half ( Union reserves came in 2nd half).

      Here a suggestion. Stay away from MLS games. We dont want you there.

    • Patrick says:

      So you really have no opinion of your own then? some real fan tells you who to support, some nice Irish fella tells you Americans are unorriginal at chanting so you write a story about it.
      And you get your facts wrong, and base it on a chant that is common in both in the USA and England.

      Clearly the Gaffer is just keeping this story up to role up the hits.

      cause Ethiene just exposed him/herself as a mindless idiot who doesn’t know how to think for him/herself.

      innit

      Cause

    • SeannyBoy says:

      Ethiene, I’m embarrassed by your ignorance of the uppercase and punctuation in general. You should not type things that people will read.

  131. Dan says:

    Can I just point out to everyone who keeps mentioning the “snowballs at Santa Claus” incident in Philly: That was 42 YEARS AGO! Time to let it go, people! Try looking up some more “facts” about that day and you’ll find out that the “Santa” they used was a 20 year old drunk guy in a crappy Santa outfit they pulled from the stands. Not only wasn’t he injured, but he actually thought it rather amusing. It wasn’t until 2 weeks later that Howard “Look at that little monkey run!” Cosell mentioned it on WWOS that anyone gave it notice. Some people will find any reason, any excuse to hate. Never mind the actual facts.

    • Mike Slater says:

      Hey Dan,

      Can you help me remember this? There were THREE separate “little monkey” comments made by Cosell, (not just one or two).

      #1. August 29, 1972 K.C. Chiefs vs. N.Y. Giants preseason HOF game (Mike Adamle) “You know that little monkey… again, the theorem was that he was too small for pro football.” -COSELL

      #2. “Look at that little monkey run!” -COSELL
      In the early 70′s one reliable source remembers Cosell saying something like… “He’s on the 20… the 30… the 35… he cuts upfield… cuts back… the 45… 50… one man to beat…. LOOK… AT… THAT… LITTLE… MONKEY… RUN!!” Because Howard Cosell was the color-commentator and never called the game play-by-play, Cosell must have said this during his Halftime Highlights voice-over recap of Sunday’s games on Monday Night Football. (Unidentified Game & Player)

      #3. September 5, 1983 Dallas at Washington (Alvin Garrett) “That little monkey gets loose doesn’t he” -COSELL

      ***4. Note: It is confirmed that Howard Cosell never referred to Joe Washington as a “little monkey” as some people seem to recall in the game where Joe Washington of the Baltimore Colts ran a last minute 90 yard kickoff return for a touchdown to win the game 34-27 during the September 18, 1978 Monday night game between the Baltimore Colts vs. New England Patriots.

      People have postulated the name of many players including: Greg Pruitt, Rick Upchurch, Art Monk (Redskins), Gary Clark (Redskins), Herb Mul-key (Redskins), Joe Washington (Colts) and Mercury Morris (Miami Dolphins).

      I have already eliminated Alvin Garrett (Washington Redskins), Mike Adamle (K.C. Chiefs) and Joe Washington (Colts and Redskins) with my prior screening of games and documentation of comments that were said, or not said in those games.

      These were all innocent comments and Cosell was certainly no racist as his support for athletes of color clearly demonstrates. Please contact me if you know the details of the unidentified game (#2) above.

  132. Matthew N says:

    Ah, EPLTalk.com, always good for a chuckle. Anyone with half a brain knows that chant is MLS wide, and if you’ve ever been to a sporting event outside of a little league baseball game you’d know that people get rowdy from time to time. I can’t believe this guy writes for this site.

  133. Daniel says:

    As a former season ticket holder at Old Trafford, I can tell you we have songs calling other coaches child molesters, making fun of Steve Gerrard’s baby, making fun of Scousers for their poverty and incest, we still call Shearer a ‘fat Geordie bastard’ and Newcastle a ‘shite football team.’ There’s a song called ‘who’s that dying on the runway’ about the Busby Babe’s plane crash in 1958. Dude, you should probably hang out a bit more. Old Trafford isn’t always the funeral home you think it is…it gets pretty nasty, especially around the Bishops Blaize.

  134. RNM says:

    I have been to many Red Bulls matches and they also use the “you suck a$@hole” chant. Red Bulls have been around long before Philly so it hardly seems fair to blame them for this chant.

  135. Ryan Pine says:

    Ethiene,

    If you don’t watch MLS why would you choose to write about a MLS team? To call you a hack would be too much of a compliment. Here’s a suggestion: the next time you decide to write an article on something you know nothing about at least try to use proper grammar- it’s “MLS” not “the MLS”. i.e.- no one says “the Major League Soccer”, just “Major League Soccer”.

    Oh and by the way, I’m a Manchester United supporter too and have been to Old Trafford to see them take on Liverpool. Never in my life have I heard such vitriolic, vile, and venomous abuse. Most of the fans in my section, opposite the Stretford End, were there just to hurl obscenities at the traveling supporters and barely even watched the match, which united won 3-nil with goals by Brown, Ronaldo and Nani. Did you watch that one or did your plasticity just begin last year?

    And speaking of United supporters, they’re not just plastic but can be abusive as well. I was sitting near a Yank Red Wednesday night who kept screaming at Sebastian Le Toux, telling him to “go back to France” and that “this wasn’t France”; all the while oblivious to the painful irony that in order to get his message across, he had to scream past Gabriel Obertan, a French national and Manchester United player. This guy wasn’t from Philadelphia.

    The point is, there are morons everywhere, in every town, and in support of every club. To throw all of Philadelphia and all of the Philadelphia Union supporters under the bus is ignorance of the highest order.

    Get a clue.

  136. Boodah76 says:

    To reply to earlier comments of us having the worse fans, it was the fan base of philadelphia that got us a team in the first place. even with the criticism that we sometimes get from national media, we have also been voted as #1 fan city in america more than once. You people who are whining lack the passion that we do and should just not come back here.

    • bob says:

      But in his article he apologizes to the world because he is a self appointed “real fan” haha what a joke.

  137. thebidet says:

    To the author of this article: Why don’t you jump on a bigger bandwagon sometime? Let me guess in the nineties you rooted for the bulls, cowboys, and redwings in the 90s and today you are a yankees, patriots, and lakers fan. You probably root for brazil in every world cup and also enjoy barcelona’s soccer.

  138. MrTuktoyaktuk says:

    I strongly urge the OP to not attend any Toronto FC games. As Canada is officially bilingual, TFC supporters swear in both English and French.

  139. Zoti says:

    You suck @sshole!!!

  140. jason says:

    You are an idiot. Ive been to many Chicago fire games and the you “fu*k you ass hole” is always chanted when the opposing keeper has a goal kick. Football is full of vulgar chanting taunting all over the world not just in Philly it just insights more passion into the game. Your not a 12 year girl who turns red when they hear a curse word. Grow up. Oh and English fans are far more foul mouthed and assholish.

  141. Mike says:

    This piece is a joke.

    So after you realize that you goofed, and couldn’t differentiate chants…you still refuse apologize after accusing them of wrongdoing they did not commit?

    Like I said, this column is a joke. Any future pieces by Ethiene Rodriguez will be ignored. Obviously not worth reading.

  142. mike says:

    wow are you a cry baby or what! who cares what fans chant at them,these athletes get paid millions to entertain,fans let loose when there out of work,yer a bitch,who cares ..and i can bet you this much..man u have heard way worse playing anywhere in europe, god yer a baby,i cant stop laughing at this post you made, seriously how old are you? 12? or are you a on yer period of something miss?

  143. AnMaistin says:

    I believe that the author of this “article” was one of the Man U fans that Roy Keane was refering to…

    “they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don’t realise what’s going on out on the pitch. I don’t think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell ‘football’, never mind understand it.”

  144. mike says:

    was at the TH14 game thursday night where the ESC also followed goal kicks with a you suk a$$hole chant

    awful article

    DOOOOOP

  145. 50 says:

    WOW.

    This “article”made me-
    A) Be proud to be from Philly…and a union Supporter
    B) Realize that this attitude is whats holds soccer back from being properly supported in this country..(Lurpy is dead on)
    C) Thrilled Im a Scouse supporter & not a pansy ass Manc

  146. Phil says:

    Yah, yah, yah.

    I have heard the “philly fans are awful” crap for years. I have been to plenty of sports events outside of Philly where the fans are just as bad. Everybody loves to focus on Philly because then they don’t have to answer to thier own fans actions.

    FANS OF AN ENGLISH TEAM DON”T LIKE ROWDY PHILLY FANS?

    Does the word “Hooligan” bring back any memories.

    I have a 3 year old and a 5 year old that I have brought to PPL park. I know what those chants “sound like”. In the end, the Sons of Ben brings an atmosphere of “REAL SOCCER FANS” to the park and I love em. I am so glad they are there wth me at the park. They put a soccer team here in Philly and I am forever grateful.

  147. Karen says:

    I hope I never become so ignorant about the English language that I cannot recognize the difference between two completely distinct phrases with completely different number of syllables. And then post a blog broadcasting this ignorance. I understand that you apologized for the mistake, but it’s inexcusable that such a nonsensical gaffe spiraled a trainwreck of vitriol against Philadelphia supporters.

  148. Jos D says:

    what a whiner. if this guy knew half the stuff that goes on a european football matches he would be appalled and probably swear off the sport for something a bit more civilized (like golf before Tiger Woods)…

    grow a pair or stay home next time.

  149. Bob says:

    Your article is a joke. Have you ever been to a futbol game in Europe in your life? They curse all the time there. Actually, have you ever been to a sporting event ever, anywhere? They curse there too. There is no doubt that you misheard many of the chants. Pretty much you just attempted to be as unoriginal as you possibly could with this article. “Oh my god, Philly fans said a curse word, they are savages. Only in Philly they curse.” Finally, who the hell do you think you are trying to apologize for ‘real fans’. You live in America and are a Man U fan. Your clearly just a little fair weather fan that knows nothing about being a real fan.

  150. Pat says:

    What tripe! This “article” is just more crying from a Euro-poser that gets upset when everyone doesn’t jump on the bandwagon with him and bend over for “his” team. The kind of chants described happen on a regular basis at MLS games, and many chants of a similar nature can be heard in stadiums around the world. Ethiene should go back to fantasizing about being English and eating prawn sandwiches and leave real support to people that actually follow their local clubs.

  151. IL says:

    It was somewhat embarrassing for an all American crowed to show so much love for a team from thousands of miles away. I am sure for most of the Man U fans this was the first and perhaps last time they would see their “favorite” time play. Come out and support your local MLS team! Welcome to Philly!

  152. Q says:

    I love that all the people whining about the swearing are the posers that came to Philiy just to see Man U and wouldn’t otherwise be caught dead at a MLS game. You guys are as plastic as they come.

  153. Jpec says:

    Are you off yur meds. Why would you even complain about this? All fanbase needs to develop their own identity. I cringe when others think they know how others are suppose to be.

  154. Nick says:

    The only thing that I have read in recent weeks that comes even close to being as poorly written (thanks to your lack of fact-checking) as this article is the rambling “not going to apologize” retort you followed up with. As a freelance writer, I understand that we do not always put the same effort into correspondence that might go into a clip, but holy christ my head felt like it was going to explode after reading that! You have one sentence that runs on for almost an entire paragraph! How can you post something like that and expect anyone to take you seriously in ANY capacity–particularly when you should be on the defensive and hoping to recover a little credibility after what you wrote above??

    That said, I was at the Red Bull Spurs match on Thursday, and the Spurs fans (the English ones and the Americans posing as English fans) were pretty bad. They dumped beer on to the seats below their supporters section after they scored, used ample profanity, and displayed finger gestures that would have made your eyes melt. In fact, Alan Hutton threw a ball at a vocal fan in an Arsenal jersey (also English) at the final whistle. For shame! Someone better tell him they dont behave that way in English sports before he gets himself into trouble.

    Perhaps you should stop writing about football (or just stop writing) if this sort of ‘salacious’ behavior clouds your ability write a well-researched article?

  155. RedMD says:

    http://www.fanchants.com

    There, every team’s best and worst songs laid bare.

  156. RedMD says:

    fanchants.com

    Every club’s best and worst songs laid bare.

  157. Omar says:

    “C’mon The U
    Clap…Clap
    C’mon The U
    Clap…Clap
    C’mon The U, C’mon The U, C’mon The U
    Clap…Clap”

    So C’mon The U is a three syllable phrase
    where as “F**k You” is a two syllable phrase
    people need to think.
    BTW the author should have gone to the Celtic friendly and heard the chants that their fans where saying(which was enjoyable)

  158. Philly Sports Hooligan says:

    I was one of the Union supporters in the Sons of Ben section at this game and can assure you that other than a few good natured f-bombs in our songs, there was no “FU” directed at the Man Un players. The Red Devil mascot came over to our section, and wagged his ass at us while we gave him the finger and chanted “WHO ARE YA!”. It was ALL in good fun. There were even some Man U fans in our section, and while they took their share of verbal abuse, there was nothing thrown at them, and no physical violence. It was all in fun.

    No one got tasered, no one got puked on, and no one threw iceballs at Santa Claus. Ethienne, you DO know what fun is. right? You claim to be a big Manchester United fan. Well, if you really were one, you’d fly to England and see a few games, and then you’d really know what “rough” fans are like.

    I’d like to see if a fan in a Chelsea or Liverpool kit got the same greeting at Old Trafford.

    Just another jackass trying to capitalize on trying to put down Philadelphia sports fans.

  159. bubbles SoB says:

    I thought the original piece of trash I read was bad, but when I got home from vacation and took the time to read the hundreds of comments that piled up I was even more appaled by the “non-apology” of Ethiene. As a loyal SoB I have this to say to you:

    P-H-I-L-L-Y
    I am Philly till I die
    With a knick nack paddy wack
    Give a dog a bone
    Hey Ethiene GO FUCK OFF HOME.

    • Tom says:

      I’m torn here. I love the song. But if we sing about this idiot, don’t we give her what she wants? I think one week. I think the SoBs exorcise this idiot from our midst this Saturday. But I LOVE the song!

  160. frank says:

    Raider fans (NFL)=Philadelphia fans of the west…

  161. frank says:

    I also think that a trip to the late MacCourt for Oregon basketball in Eugene was rather nasty, as are (believe it or not) Utah Jazz home games, particularly when the Lakers are in town…in the case of the latter it must be because in a repressed culture like Utah the only place people can vent and get out of control is at the ballpark!

    Utah/BYU games are also notorious (especially when the drunken Ute fans travel to Provo)….

  162. john says:

    typical christopher harris and his bullshit to get views.

    when will people learn to ignore this wind-up merchant?

    • The Gaffer says:

      “John,” if that’s your real name, I didn’t write the post so get your facts right before you start making accusations.

      Cheers,
      The Gaffer

      • SeannyBoy says:

        You didn’t write it, but you did post this lame-ass story. I know it wasn’t about getting “views.” But seriously, you could post a story like this every weekend. This was a letter to the editor of a Philly newspaper or a letter of complaint to the Union, not an article for a soccer blog catering to serious fans.

  163. Respite says:

    Let me get this straight, you’re a “Manchester United Fan” and you live in North Carolina?

    Please stop writing about soccer. Really. Write about the Middle East peace process, write about quantum mechanics, whatever, but please stop writing about soccer.

    The Philadelphia Union had a supporters section before they had a team. This supporters section went to away matches as a group before they had a team. That’s simply insane. They win. Forever. You simply don’t get this whole “soccer” thing if you don’t get that. And until you do get it. Until you experience a few dozen ups, downs, wanting to tear your hair out, wanting to murder a coach or two, living and dying on every kick of the ball (none of which you can do from an ocean away) please stop writing about it.

  164. Mike says:

    1. The amount of racist comments uttered in nearly EVERY EU stadium is far worse than “ass hole”. 2. We were not “dropping the f bomb”. 3. Many teams in MLS have that same goal kick chant, and there are similar ones across the world. 4. Stop complaining just because you are from a bible thumping state, you need to understand that in the real world people do not cry when someone curses…if you can call “asshole” a curse word. Ask people who have played for any Philadelphia franchise. We are the best fans in the United States bar none.

  165. Tom says:

    My GOD is it unbearable to read the uninformed rants of a prissy little American “journalist” and the father of three thirteen-year-old girls. Jesus. This is a game played by MEN, Ethienne, you little idiot. If you can’t handle a little language in the supporters’ section of ANY football club, you’re not a fan, because you’ve clearly never been in the environment. You’re a tourist. You don’t deserve to write about this game. You haven’t the first idea of what football is about. My guess is that most of the Man U players found the environment mild by comparison to what they’re used to in England and on the continent.

    You should take a gig writing about cooking shows, or perhaps antiquing. You’re less likely to find your delicate sensibilities offended in those environments. As far as a voice for the game, you’re absolutely terrible. Ethienne – you are NOT QUALIFIED to do this job.

    And as for your non-apology – you can take it and shove it in whatever hole pleases you. You’re the kind of football “fan” a true football fan loves to hate – Eurosnob, too good for the MLS, fan of a large club because they’re famous and for no other reason than that. No sense of the history or heritage, drawn by primary colors, much like a fish. Can you name five clubs outside England? I think not.

  166. Tom says:

    Ethienne – how can you possibly call yourself a “real fan”? YOU, not we, are the embarrassment. To your profession.

  167. MEXICO says:

    The “you suck, asshole” chant is a direct copy of the Mexican chant of goalkeepers that they do in Mexico, and you were able to hear LOUD AND CLEAR at the World Cup last month.

    usa supporters are unimaginative and unoriginal. It comes from lack of intelligence. What subhumans. Get your own chants, idiots.

  168. Jeff says:

    I’m from Philly and I was at the game supporting Manchester United because they are a team I have always supported way way before Philadelphia got a MLS team. I could care less what anyone else from Philly thinks about that. Now with all the coverage we get of the EPL I haven’t missed a United game in three years. I have a passion for this team way beyond that of my local MLS team that has only been playing for a few months.

    I am a Union fan but it’s hard to get really excited about the Union when they have only been playing for a few months. The passion just isn’t there yet. If someone from Philadelphia doesn’t understand that than so be it.

    It was kind of weird for me at the game. I was cheering for United but I would have been fine seeing Union score a goal or two, especially Mwanga who I love. But I was annoyed at the fans. The chant they do to the away GK’s is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. And to do it against a historical club like Manchester United just showed no class. I was also annoyed with some fans while I was walking around before and after the game. Basically the Union fans were being obnoxious and classless. That’s a shame becuase I am a Union fan as well but being a bigger United fan I felt I had to turn against my own fans for acting that way. I still have this one guys face in my mind. I wish I had knocked him out for how obnoxious he was being. I won’t go into what he was saying but they were classless remarks against Manchester United. I told him, “You’ve had a team for three months, United have been around since the 1800′s. Get a life.” That was kind of weird since as you know I’m a Union fan as well but this guy needed taken off his high horse and I don’t regret saying it.

  169. Ciaran says:

    So the author goes to a game, doesn’t know any of the songs, makes up the words he imagines the fans are singing and gets offended. Congratulations, you’re the epitome of the idiot, armchair Man United fan.

    Enjoy your two football games a year!

  170. John says:

    What everyone thinks is “F**K YOU” is actually a “Cmon the U” chant for the UNION. Not being a member of the Sons of Ben, I too thought the chant was F**K YOU. But soon realized as well that it was “Cmon the U”. I am a season ticket holder for the Phildelphia Union. You should have done your homework or write another story and apologize for your ignorance!

  171. Bloody Yank says:

    That’s Philly, the sphincter of the USA. Doesn’t reflect how the rest of us Americans feel. Go, Man United!!!!

  172. CaptainObvious says:

    “Note from The Gaffer… I’d like to apologize to the Philadelphia Union fans regarding the incorrect insinuation that the fans were chanting the F bomb, when they were actually not.”

    If they weren’t chanting the F bomb, or just using it every third word in a typical conversation, then they weren’t really Philly fans.

  173. WTF says:

    Every club should chant “F**k You man U” and “you gloryhunting c**ts” while playing against man U.

  174. Morgan says:

    I just came across this article, and I’m from Philly, a diehard Arsenal fan, and attended the match to simply see a higher level of quality than the MLS is capable of producing.

    I did not hear the Union fans as I was in the AON section via free tickets from a buddy of mine who works there, but it sounds like an absolute disgrace, and sadly, typical of Philly fans.

    Growing up in Philly and attending Philly sporting events all my life, the fans are absolute animals. Give them credit, they are some of the most knowledgeable and passionate fans (when we’re talking about american football, basketball, hockey, and baseball). But soccer in Philly is a whole new ball of wax.

    For alot of these clowns, it’s an excuse to get drunk. The fans know next to nothing. I’m not saying all fans, but I’m sure alot of people don’t know that it is Man U’s preseason. And although I’m sure they know the name Manchester United (see David Beckham), I know most are not aware that Man U is one of the most respected and successful clubs on the planet.

    I hope this isn’t repetitive, but I didn’t read the 326 blog comments.

  175. Wow says:

    Obviously you have no idea what’s going on with current events in the football world. The US is trying to bid for the 2018 or 2022 World Cup, us hosting the tournament in 1994 has nothing to do with it.

  176. DOOP #D.Sell says:

    She fell over! She fell over! She fell over!

  177. Jenny says:

    I’m kicking myself for not coming up with that reply myself. Kudos to you sir.

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