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Turbulence (EPL Talk Review Podcast)

Speaker 2: I want to be like you Tucker.

Speaker 1: No, that’s not bad. Yes, that’s actually pretty good.

Speaker 2: Have you got a friend to meet you?

Speaker 1: Oh, there we go. There we go he was just looking down his normal bedtime playlist. What’s it with you Kristan, Newcastle two, Hull City three.

Speaker 2: I think honestly Newcastle just completely contributed on the downfall here. For some reason defending was associate, attacking was barely decent. For the opening still at 25 minutes they started spraying it around with real [inaudible 01:37:15]. It was the 4-3-3 that I would argue had previously contributed to New Castles best stand down party in the season they finished fifth. I imagine the hope would be that it doesn’t can it in the same way that he hid last time when they were beaten. Then again [inaudible 01:37:35] he’s someone who is  barely more technically adept than his predecessor Donnie Simpson but on a defensive standpoint he’s not nearly as reliable.  He’s a little bit one paced and you can argue he was at fault for two of the goals yesterday.  In fact, I actually don’t know how many he could get a free header in the penalty box tells you there’s some kind of problem in that defense.

It’s something that needs to be rectified and it’s a quite perplexing situation given that when Pardew started, Newcastle’s new defense was the shining light of his coaching. Now it seems that in fact they can attack what they can’t defend. So really consistency is the order of the day and from a whole perspective, he attempts to say, I thought they were very good on the counterattack.  I think and Bruce said afterwards, if they can keep the core players, I’m thinking Huddlestone, Livermore and Aluko fit over the course of the season I think that it should be quite comfortable when saying it because in particular Sone Aluko was very impressive.  When you consider he’s come from Scottish football, I remember reading he provided  – his family, sorry, had given up their savings so he can fund his move to Rangers. You do have to appreciate the immense journey that guy’s come on.  Was also famously offered a trial by Juventus.  Quite how that came about, I’m not entirely sure.  He gives them that little X factor, gives them that dash of creativity they need in the final third. I didn’t really see any other player offering them that so if he gets injured, I’d be curious to see who fills that void.

Speaker 1: Great result for Hull City.

Speaker 2: Wonderful result for them. An important role when early in the season.  You need results like that early on just to establish yourself and get yourself that little buffer on the teams below you.  It shows they can do it because they can quickly transition thanks to having Tom Huddlestone who at times yesterday was playing the kind of [inaudible 01:39:37] that made you realize why he was so highly rated. He really can distribute a ball in a variety of different ways with a real quality.

Speaker 1: I’ve moved on from football now guys, I’ve just started coming up with Disney songs that are football related. I’ve got some.  Anyone else wants to join in? I put them in the bottom of my note you can read along with me. I just can’t wait to be Ledley King.

Male: Oh God.

Speaker 1: Anyone, can you feel the Vogel love tonight?  I like the can to fell the Vogel love tonight.  I think that one’s pretty good. I always thought – if you remember The Jungle Book? Anyone else remember The Jungle Book?  Great film.  I imagine Damien Comolli singing “Trust in Me”, no?

Male: [Crosstalk 01:40:23] yes.

Speaker 1: Yes, it was sung by a snake, yes.

Male: I can show you the way.

Speaker 1: Yes, I imagine John Henry sitting back and being like …

Male: [Crosstalk 01:40:36] …

Speaker 1: Shining, shimmering something …

Male: How you got the eyes when he was trying to hypnotize people.

Speaker 1: The Princess Jasmine look?

Male: [Crosstalk 01:40:47]

Speaker 2: We were singing something from Aladdin.

Speaker 1: Yes, so either way the references can – Beauty and the Beast? Of course,  [inaudible 01:40:58] , the beast.  I’d imagine some sort of [inaudible 01:41:02] reference in “A Whole New World”. Can’t think of anything else right now. If you have any – maybe Pinocchio, I imagine there’s a Pinocchio in there somewhere..

Male: [Crosstalk 01:41:11]

Speaker 1: Surely something to do with Pinocchio. Pinocchio [inaudible 01:41:15].  There’s more bring them to us on Twitter,  We would love to hear your suggestions.  In the meantime, it has been great for you to join us on the podcast obviously. Thank you everyone. Christian, thank you.

Male: Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1: Matt, thank you.  Thank you very much.

Male: Glad to be here.

Speaker 1: Morgan, it was lovely as always. Kartik [inaudible 01:41:39] it’s great to have you on the podcast. Like you say, more interviews coming out this week first of all with I just can’t wait to hear Ledley King and then secondly, what, Bill Shankly is going to …

Speaker 4: Well no, it’s not with Bill Shankly directly but it’s with David Peace.

Male: [Crosstalk 01:41:58]

Speaker 1: Bill Shankly was part of the interview.

Speaker 4: They do have a lot of books about talking …

Male: You should do that one day.  [Crosstalk 01:42:08] get a ouija board. You don’t have to…

Male: [Crosstalk 01:42:12]

Male: Do an interview with Bryan Clark.

Speaker 1: Now, if ever you wanted to make the most of the Google Hangout, I feel like getting a ghost on Google Hangout is the way to go. Some people shouting at their iPod right now.

Male: [Crosstalk 01:42:27] that’s what they’re shouting.

Speaker 1: Bambie, surely there’s a reference to Bambie somewhere. Anyway.

Speaker 2: [Inaudible 01:42:38]

Speaker 1: Yes, in Mulan. 101 Dalmatians.  Anyway it’ll be great to hear those interviews, more of those – Snow White. Thank you very much.  Kartik, take use out.

Speaker 3: Unless you’re David Moyes, tonight you’re enjoying your football.

Speaker 1: Matt, you didn’t tell us you had your own forum.

Speaker 4: Keep it quiet.

Male: [Crosstalk 01:43:14]

Speaker 1: Is that  [Inaudible 01:43:19].  Needless to say, I have the last laugh.

Speaker 2: Needless to say, I have the last laugh.

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  1. Jake

    September 25, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Long time listener, first time poster. Just wanted to point out Kris’ silence during the Ramsey/Piers Morgan discussion. I actually am a big fan of his analysis, but towards the end of last season, I remember a number of his articles on Soccernet advocating for Ramsey’s dropping/sale.

  2. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    September 24, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Good point Adam Heap.

  3. Adam Heap

    September 24, 2013 at 7:01 am

    I love listening to this podcast, but sometimes I wish you guys would all show a little support for the sides you follow! Kartik, you could hardly have sounded less enthusiastic about how well your club played in the derby (in spite of their history in derby matches, I know) – we all know which teams the presenters are backing, show some love for them every now and again – we know you need to be unbiased but supporters can’t help but love our clubs!

    • Jake

      September 25, 2013 at 8:27 am

      I dont think Morgan holds anything back…

      • Morgan Green

        September 25, 2013 at 4:55 pm


  4. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    September 23, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    I thought I mentioned Marshall but perhaps not. In fact I don’t know if I was called upon during this game, but it was late and we were trying to get the pod done. Lloris could have been sent off for that handball, as we saw a similar call last week. I don’t think Cardiff played with ten men behind the ball the entire game having now watched the full 90. Cardiff at times in the second half played a higher line and kept the ball.

    If you feel we don’t cover Spurs closely enough or are too biased towards Arsenal (an accusation you and some other Spurs fans have made towards me which conveniently ignores that Arsenal has finished ahead of Spurs for 17 consecutive seasons and with that they have earned some deference when compared to Spurs)we’d love to have you come on the podcast. Your points are well taken on this game. But understand with PSG-Monaco the biggest game of the weekend was on at 2:55 as was Milan-Napoli and having some other items to complete I didn’t get a chance to watch the game as closely as I would like before the pod. I have now watched it entirely. I also think this win indicates Spurs are a likely top 3 team as they have fared better than Everton and Man City (both outside the top 3 right now in my estimation) in South Wales. In fact this result gives Spurs more points in South Wales than City has in three trips to the area the last 3 seasons so that counts for something.

    Again, apologies. We try our best but sometimes it’s not good enough I suppose. If you want to help us with prep or even coming on in the future to discuss Spurs that’d be great!

    • Balboa77

      September 23, 2013 at 8:34 pm

      Dust on the podcast is a must listen for me. I am convinced “Dust” is a combination of people yelling at a computer screen while one person types. MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

      • Dust

        September 23, 2013 at 9:30 pm


    • Dust

      September 23, 2013 at 9:29 pm

      Thanks both of you for responding…

      I don’t think you are anti spurs, it’s a good example of a game that didn’t have the review it should’ve…

      I check back in every now and again, to see what changes (if any) there are to the coverage, esp with the changes on the site.

      Anyways…Thank you for asking, if time allows I’d be interested.

      • jtm371

        September 23, 2013 at 9:37 pm

        do it it would be EPIC!

        • dust

          September 24, 2013 at 12:57 pm

          Im happy to do it, Chris reached out for the king interview. If at some point they want it to happen i’m sure they will reach out, they have a million and one things going on.

      • COYS_USA1

        September 24, 2013 at 12:17 pm

        If Dust cant do it I would love to be on the pod

        • Balboa77

          September 24, 2013 at 8:58 pm

          No one invited you.

  5. Dust

    September 23, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    It sounded like no one watched the Spurs game, here are some talking points from the game oh…and it was Naughton was at left back, not Vertonghen.

    Cardiff’s keeper played out of his skin, he was peppered with shots and some how kept them out. It was complete domination by spurs…

    Cardiff no17 holding Lloris arm as the corner came in while another player used Dawson as human ladder for the disallowed goal they had.

    Lloris handled the ball on the edge (started on the line but handled it over the line too) of the 18m, after another dodgey back pass from Naughton.

    The football Spurs played was very very good, Cardiff had to play with 10 men behind the ball for 80 minutes.

    Lamela made the difference when he came on, as a very tired Cardiff couldn’t cope with his trickery and runs between them, yes Holtby played his part and did well.

    I can’t believe its co-incidence that when I choose to listen its only then that the summary of non major games are so poor.

    Cardiff’s keeper absolutely deserved a mention after putting on a performance similar to YL for WHIFC Paulinho & Dembele were sublime.

    Conceding 1 goal in 8 games (5 in BPL) for Spurs and scoring 16 best defensive record in BPL. And yes that’s quite an achievement with Dawson at the back.

    Contributors to the pod in the u.s have access to the games On Demand within an hour or so of them finishing, maybe I’m crazy, but perhaps someone from WST on the pod should watch, and then report.

    Just a thought.

    • Christopher Harris

      September 23, 2013 at 4:58 pm

      To be fair, the Tottenham match was being played at the same time as the biggest match of the weekend. Damn the Europa League!

      I’m sure a lot of people were watching the Arsenal-Stoke match instead of the Palace-Swansea one, too 😉

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