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Kartik Krishnaiyer interview about NASL/USSF lawsuit; World Soccer Talk Radio (9.2.15)

Listen to the latest episode of World Soccer Talk Radio featuring an interview with Kartik Krishnaiyer.

During the interview, Krishnaiyer discusses the news about NASL’s lawsuit against US Soccer to question why the proposed new changes for Division 1 have changed where it can be argued that they’re realistic and could put NASL out of business. Nate and Kartik discuss this topic as well as what the potential outcomes may be for soccer in this country.

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Hosted by Nate Abaurrea, World Soccer Talk Radio is a nightly soccer news and discussion show that will air Mondays through Fridays each week. The show will feature interviews with insightful guests as well as taking listener calls.

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Nate is a radio sportscaster, writer, stand-up comedian, and soccer coach located in Redding, California. Originally from Watsonville, a futbol crazy town in Santa Cruz County, Nate is a graduate of Humboldt State University where he majored in Broadcast Journalism. Soccer is one his true loves in life, and he is an avid Liverpool FC, San Jose Earthquakes, and United States National Team supporter. Road trips, sake & sushi outings, and late night terrace inspired singing are some of his hobbies. His greatest heroes include Bill Shankly, Richard Pryor, Diego Maradona, Hunter S. Thompson, and Jon Miller. In addition to World Soccer Talk Radio, Nate’s work can be heard on AM 1460 in Redding and online at, where he is the lead radio voice for live coverage of Northern California college and high school sports.


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  1. hydrahamster

    September 16, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    Great points

    In my point of view, all of this is the USSF’s fault on why MLS and the NASL are clashing. If league were leagues and clubs are clubs, none of this mess would beentertainmentthan than best clubs would be in the first division, lower division clubs can fight they’re way up and the bad clubs in every division but the last bottom division will be relegated. No paying $100 million dollars on MLS franchising when every club within the promotion and relegation pyramid can fight for promotion.

    I feel that having a league like MLS is bad for American soccer because it does not develop nor treat American players like they are global athletes. MLS seems more about fan entertainment than caring and developing players. I hate seeing stories and comments of/and about youth players that could not live out they’re dreams because they have to pay for tryout and to play. People who want to become a MLS soccer player also discover they have to go through college with very little chance of being drafted in. I guess that’s way MLS and the USSF have those players get a non-soccer career while trying to be a soccer athlete. Golf, tennis, swimming, track racing, gymnastics and other global Olympic sports do things the right way with developing global athletes, so why are we treating soccer players differently?
    From what I read from Garber’s interview in Manchester England, his point of views and future plans of the sport makes me cheer for the NASL and NPSL. Him asking FIFA to leave MLS and US Soccer to it’s own ways let me know that he know what MLS is doing are wrong and that a corrupt FIFA is the reason why they are getting away with murder. The NASL to me are fighting for something that don’t denifit the clubs and it could kill the league if the MLS, USSF partnership wins. That to me let me know they care about the sport more than the money. Bill Peterson may have more American football backgrounds, but his passion to grow the sport the way the rest of the world follows instead Garber’s Americanized way makes me respect him. If you are going to run a sports league, you need to run it right or else it’s just a abomination.

    I agree having the USSF, MLS, USL and PDL fighting against the NASL and NPSL are not a good thing, however, the way the USSF set the soccer pyramid up made this outcome happen with a kill or be killed war. The USSF have never in it’s history did good with American soccer. You may look at MLS and think otherwise, but MLS’s league is doing more damage than good. You could say the same for the NASL, but all they are asking is for a far shack. If MLS was an independent club league and wanted to team up with the lower divisions in ppromotion and relegation instead of making them into a MLS reserve/affiliated league, the NASL would be happy being a second division because then, the divisions below MLS have meaning.
    In America soccer, there is only one division while the rest are ranked leagues. Leagues seem to be ranked by club finances, league finances, fan support and stadium size. How good the teams are are left out since those 4 things are more important than club’s strength. When a team gets promoted to MLS, it’s because of the fan base, the club’s finances and nothing else. The players within those expansions clubs do not come with the teams and someone that’s growing American soccer.

    • hydrahamster

      September 16, 2015 at 10:17 pm

      Those ranks also there to play a part in the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup seatings. Without the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup, the lower divisions will have no meaning other than to serve MLS or die.

  2. Matt McLeskey

    September 2, 2015 at 10:33 pm

    Around the 46th minute mark, Kartik mentioned the steep decline in loans between MSL and NASL teams compared to past year. It might be of note to consider how both MLS and NASL teams used to operate developmental teams in both the NPSL and PDL. Now, however, seven MLS developmental teams and one USL developmental team (Pittsburgh) operate teams in the PDL, while four NASL teams operate developmental teams in the NPSL. MLS operates no developmental teams in the NPSL and the NASL operates no developmental teams in the PDL. A few years ago, both MLS and NASL teams operated developmental teams in both the PDL and NPSL; the New York Red Bulls switched their developmental team from the NPSL to the PDL in 2015 and now operate a reserve team in the USL as well. There used to be a certain amount of cooperation, or at least not competition between, all five leagues, but it now seems like a stark alignment has emerged with MLS, USL, and the USL’s PDL on one side with the NASL and NPSL on the other. This schism seems problematic when considering what the next stages of soccer’s growth in America might look like.

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