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Implications of Bundesliga rumored deal with ESPN+: World Soccer Talk Podcast

World Soccer Talk is a weekly podcast about watching soccer on TV, online and apps.

In the NEW episode, number 134, Christopher Harris and co-host Kartik Krishnaiyer cover a range of topics including:

• ESPN+ on the verge of gobbling up rights to another European soccer league,
• News about a streaming service possibly getting a cellphone service,
• Christian Pulisic documentary heads to TV this weekend,
• Ligue 1 is having a laugh,
• DIRECTV NOW says au revoir,
• And we have a bunch of letters from you, the listeners, in our mailbag section.

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  1. Azer

    August 3, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    This morning on ESPNEWS, Chelsea played Monchengladbach at Borussia Park in Germany. Mark Donaldson and Paul Mariner were the commentators. If ESPN plus does get the Bundesliga rights, expect the ESPN crew from Bristol CT to do commentary on some games even if it’s online. ESPN+ had Adrian Healy and Ross Dyer do commentary on some big FA Cup and UEFA Nations League games, no world feed. I can’t wait until more details about the Bundesliga TV rights come out.

  2. Leo

    August 2, 2019 at 4:28 pm

    Could you guys talk a little about EPL broadcasts in Spanish in future podcasts?

  3. Azer

    August 2, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    I have some bad news to report about the 2019 German Super Cup tomorrow on the FOX Network.
    Keith Costigan and Jovan Kirovski will commentate the game from the booth in LA.
    Darek Rae and Karl Heinz Riedle will be commentating from the stadium in Dortmund for the Bundesliga world feed. I’m sure many of you remember Karl Heinz Riedle. He played for Dortmund and Liverpool.
    I don’t expect ESPN to be much better, just ”cheaper” Let’s wait and see. I hope Fox Sports acquires the La Liga rights. Wow, how the mighty have fallen. Good Bye Fox Sports. I have some great memories.

    • Eddie

      August 2, 2019 at 3:51 pm

      Maybe ESPN could get la Liga next year?

      • DT

        August 2, 2019 at 9:27 pm

        La Liga can’t even find a UK & Ireland broadcaster to reach their demands for this season. Not sure if Bein USA reports ratings but it really does seem like with La Liga most neutral fans don’t care outside a few games a season.

  4. Leo

    August 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm

    Thank you for the very interesting podcast. I believe that the agreement with ESPN plus will definitely be a victory for the 2 bundesliga. Thank you again, but I have to mention that the games of the French clubs were broadcast by Flow sports this summer.

  5. JP

    August 1, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    I can’t believe anyone’s initial reaction to the Bundesliga news would be overwhelmingly positive. You guys already went through all the downside this has vs their current situation, was also my 1st thought when reading the comment about it here last night.

    The drop in ICC ticket sales has less to do with more sophisticated fans or high prices and more to do with the novelty wearing off. They need to increase the diversity of clubs (and leagues) that are part of this every year. Instead of the same big clubs that seem to be part of it every year, maybe have a few ‘anchor’ big clubs but then fill the rest with lesser known teams we never see here like PSV or Ajax, Atalanta or Sampdoria, Villarreal or Betis, Gladbach or Leipzig etc.

    • Edwin

      August 1, 2019 at 2:53 pm

      JP maybe you have a point but it could be a mix of both I’ve heard both sides of the argument they might not be mutually exclusive. I remember when the ICC first started it was sort of a global mini champions league you had K-League/ MLS/ Liga MX/Euro Leagues now it’s just Euro Leagues with same teams on rotation from year to year.

      Mix it up invite new teams as was done the first few years. Charlie Stillatano/MLS beef has maybe thawed some as I seen he got permission this edition to use MLS stadiums for the match. I’d love to see K-League/J-League/A-League/Liga MX/MLS/SPL teams added simply to mix it up.

  6. Edwin

    August 1, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    I don’t think Kartik was being condescending at all. At min 48:30 mark of the podcast Christopher’s response to Kartik’s comment that the American viewer and soccer fan is getting more sophisticated about watching and attending games that matter and kind of starting to phase out preseason comp. like ICC Christopher says “Those games get more viewership than games that “supposedly” matter like Major League soccer.

    Respectfully that’s more condescending and not true. Below are the viewing figures for this years edition of International Champions Cup.

    July 16 ESPN2 Fiorentina vs Chivas – Viewership too low to rate
    July 17 ESPN2 Aresnal vs Bayern Munich- 113k
    July 20 ESPN2 Man U vs Inter Milan 120k
    July 20 ESPN Benfica vs Chivas 167k
    July 20 ESPN2 Bayern vs Real Madrid 233k
    July 21 ESPN2 Juventus vs Tottenham 105k
    July 23 ESPN Real Madrid vs Aresnal 352k
    July 23 ESPN Chivas vs Atl Madrid 222k
    July 26 ESPN Real Madrid vs Atl Madrid 276k
    July 28 ESPN 2 A.C Milan vs Benfica Viewership too low to rate
    Viewer ship avg minus 2 games rated too low=198.5k below

    Bottom line it was a incorrect statement from Christopher and IMHO a correct hypothesis from Kartik here. Keep in mind this is a generous avg as we aren’t factoring in the games that rated too low and the fact that averages generally go down with more games.

    • DT

      August 2, 2019 at 7:54 am

      Some of those games with big teams that have low numbers were played in Asia and broadcast at 11pm or 730am EST

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