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Amazon and Roku causing Premier League problems: World Soccer Talk Podcast

In the NEW episode, number 189, Christopher Harris and co-host Kartik Krishnaiyer cover a range of topics including:

• We tell you everything you need to know about Peacock TV,
• We reveal a massive announcement from World Soccer Talk,
• Our thoughts on ABC’s coverage of the UEFA Nations League,
• Why Leeds United will be the team to watch this season,
• Plus letters from you, the listeners, in our mailbag section.

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Launched in 2006, the World Soccer Talk Podcast is the longest running podcast on the planet. Every week, we share the latest news about watching soccer on television and streaming, in addition to discussing what we like and dislike, and featuring your questions and feedback in our Listener Mailbag segment.

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  1. jackgopack4

    September 13, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    Honestly it’s crazy to me the number of people that will abandon watching a league just because an app isn’t available on their $30 streaming device or built into their TV. There are cheap ways to get access to this content costing much less than a nice takeout dinner.

    • Gonzalo

      September 14, 2020 at 6:01 pm

      I suspect most the comments promising to never watch another Premier League game because of the switch to Peacock are just idle threats. Most die-hard PL fans know how to access the games both legally (Chromecast, PS-4, Xbox) and illegally (IPTV). It is the casual PL fans who don’t frequent that I’m afraid for. With less European soccer will now available on basic cable than just a few years ago, I’m concerned many casual viewers will simply abandon the sport.

  2. Rod Severin

    September 13, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Placing the blame solely on Roku seems misplaced as from what I’ve read on Indiewire it is the NBCUniversal business model for Peacock, basically seeking ad-supported revenue, creating the impasse with Roku. I’ve been loyally watching the Premier League on NBCSN for seven years but as a Roku user will now be going to ESPN+ on the weekend. Bummer of a development.

  3. Danny Segura

    September 13, 2020 at 11:01 am

    Great podcast guys. I just wonder how things will go with Peacock this season. If NBC continues to put marquee matches on Peacock then it makes me wonder if we will be losing soccer fans in America because of this. Think about it, they are basically hiding the sport away from everyone else by putting quality games behind a paywall. To my knowledge NBC hasn’t done this to its NHL games so why soccer. I refuse to takes part in limiting the exposure of the game to America’s wide audience on TV. What are your views on soccer becoming streaming exclusive?

    • Nosferatu

      September 13, 2020 at 9:38 pm

      Speaking as a hockey fan, too…don’t give them any ideas, please! The Premier League on Peacock and Champions/Europa Leagues on All Access is enough on top of my bloated cable bill!

    • Jack S.

      September 15, 2020 at 1:54 pm

      The “marquee matches” are being put on Peacock for one reason – to get the US fans to sign up for the streaming service early in the EPL season. After the initial push to get new subscribers, they will have to put the top tier matches back on NBC in order to sell ads on the broadcast network.

      We have Roku devices on all of the TVs in the house. If I’m going to have to hook a PC up to my TV in order to watch Peacock, I’m just going to find a stream of the matches on the Internet somewhere instead of bothering with Peacock.

  4. brn442

    September 12, 2020 at 2:53 am

    Gaffer and Kartik predicting Chelsea winning the league??? A team that finished 30+ points behind the winners? Did they a world class center-half in secret??? Oh Dear!!!

    • hank evans

      September 13, 2020 at 12:22 pm

      shhhh Thiago ssshhh

  5. Azer

    September 11, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    Chris – You guys didn’t talk about the German Cup this weekend & Monday. There are 7 games on ESPN3. Today 9 goals were scored and 2nd division Eintracht Braunschweig beat Hertha Berlin 5:4 I watched it, great game. 500 fans were allowed in the stadium. I won’t be watching Liverpool vs Leeds instead I’ll be watching SC Karlsruher vs Union Berlin at 12:30PM ET with the best commentator in the world Garry Preston.

  6. Lonnie

    September 11, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    I enjoyed the podcast.
    It was good to hear your voices again !

    • Christopher Harris

      September 11, 2020 at 4:27 pm

      Hi Lonnie, great to see you! Hope all is well.

  7. DS

    September 11, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    Gad demit. I already have a Roku with everything (Sling, Espn+, CBS All access). Need Peacock on it gad demit. I used to have NBC Gold premier league pass. ugh…

    • Carlos

      September 15, 2020 at 7:35 pm

      I decided to no longer wait on NBC/Comcast to get it together. The changing around of schedules and the whole peacock thing tired me out. I have a Roku too, so I reactivated ESPN Plus and will be watching Bundesliga, Serie A, Scottish Football, Championship, etc. I have MU TV for my Manchester United fix as well. I have Comcast internet but am not about to order Flex just for the premier league, free or not. ESPN Plus has a superior visual quality anyway and that makes a difference too in 2020. The entire strategy they have is transparent and I do not have to like it. Now, if and when they add Roku as a provider I will check it out. Reviews are pretty negative too. I lost patience but hopefully for others it’s a better experience.

  8. Tom3

    September 11, 2020 at 11:27 am

    Another solution on Peacock with Roku and Amazon is to use Chromecast and you can stream to your TV. I went ahead and spent the 29 bucks for the Chromecast. That’s the cheapest solution I can find. I’m not thrilled by it but it works.

  9. Eddy

    September 10, 2020 at 6:06 pm

    Nice pod it felt “shorter” at 50 min than recent ones haha. Concerning all the soccer TV ratings especially with Kartik saying none of the matches broke 1 mil. I think that this year will be a wash due to the anomaly of the sports calendar and tv schedule congestion, with league playing their regular season and playoffs outside of their normal times.

    Last week we had NBA/NHL playoffs/MLB and College Football restarted. On ESPN thru the day last Saturday all three games got a little over or right around 1 mil viewers. To make matters worst NFL will be devouring viewership starting tonight(Thursday) I don’t think a respite for bigger soccer viewing numbers will come until mid to late October when the NBA/NHL/MLB seasons will be in ending and it will be just football ironically unlike past years, where NBA and NHL get started in October along with the in progress NFL season. The former aren’t planned to start until Jan of next year.

  10. jstrummer

    September 10, 2020 at 4:54 pm

    So seeing that I don’t have an hour to spend listening, does anyone know what the ‘massive announcement’ is?, hopefully something more legit than the SPL on ESPN+ announcement.

  11. Robert

    September 10, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Chelsea on top, I sure hope not! Money does not always mean quality.
    Leeds is back! My love for hard working teams makes them one I will watch. But cash is still their problem. Last look at payrolls, before this transfer window had them at about $15,000,000. Their first game is against Liverpool who’s payroll is about $145.000,000. So, serious hard work will be necessary.

    • Robert

      September 10, 2020 at 5:31 pm

      I look at the EPL payroll list about two weeks ago and my memory leaves a lot to be desired. Liverpool’s is about $90,000,00. and Leeds was about $3,500,000. last year.

    • rkujay

      September 15, 2020 at 7:08 am

      I’m old enough to remember when Man United were accused of buying every and any player they wished because of deep pockets. Now thanks to the gaz and the oil, not so much. Interesting how the glazers took nearly ninety billion pounds out of the club in the last five years, while no other top six team took a dime. Gotta finance the bucs, I guess. Remember the bucs? 0-26 in their first two plus seasons, while the Culverhouse owners were the most successful, financially, in the league. Glazers learned from the best.
      Coach McKay, when asked regarding his team’s execution stated, ” I’m all for it.”

  12. Jerry

    September 10, 2020 at 3:02 pm

    Great podcast but I gotta disagree with Chris take about Major League Soccer fans being jealous about ICC attendance. The attendance for the ICC has been nothing special. Chris mentions the games at Michigan games of 108k and 101k in 2014-2018 but there is noway to deny that attendance has been steeply down the last few years. In 2019 there were 11 games besides a few capacity games at MLS stadiums half of the 11 were less than half full and even the better attended games in bigger stadiums were less than two-thirds full. While some of these numbers aren’t horrible I don’t see why MLS would feel jealous when there are MLS sides that pull equal or better.

    Fiorentina 2–1 Chivas Guadalajara SeatGeek Stadium, Bridgeview Attendance: 10,062 20k capacity
    Benfica 3–0 Chivas Guadalajara Levi’s Stadium, Santa Clara Attendance: 15,724 69k capacity
    Arsenal 3–0 Fiorentina Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte Attendance: 34,902 75k capacity
    Chivas Guadalajara 0–0 Atlético Madrid Globe Life Park, Arlington Attendance: 12,467 48k capacity
    Milan 0–1 Benfica Gillette Stadium, Foxborough Attendance: 27,565 66k capacity

    Manchester City 0–1 Borussia Dortmund Soldier Field, Chicago Attendance: 34,629
    Liverpool 1–3 Borussia Dortmund Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte Atten; 55,447 75k capacity
    Juventus 2–0 Bayern Munich Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia Attendance: 32,105 70k capacity
    Borussia Dortmund 2–2 Benfica Heinz Field, Pittsburgh Attendance: 16,171 68k capacity
    Roma 1–4 Tottenham Hotspur SDCCU Stadium, San Diego Attendance: 18,861 54k capacity
    Milan 1–1 Manchester United StubHub Center, Carson Attendance: 21,742 27k capacity
    Barcelona 2–2 Tottenham Hotspur Rose Bowl, Pasadena Attendance: 66,805 93k capacity
    Tottenham Hotspur 1–0 Milan U.S. Bank Stadium, Minneapolis Attendance: 31,264 67k capacity

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