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Clint Dempsey Gives Up His Dream and Fighting Spirit

Clint Dempsey’s transfer from Tottenham Hotspur to Seattle Sounders is a triumphant victory for Major League Soccer, the Sounders and US soccer fans. Deuce now has the opportunity to become the new face of MLS, generating significant income from sponsorship and licensing deals in addition to his lucrative £100,000/week wages.

But while the deal is a huge boost to Dempsey’s bank account, it’s a disappointing decision by him as an athlete. The level of competition he’ll go up against in MLS won’t be anywhere near the level in the Premier League. And the feeling is, even if he goes back to the Premier League for a loan deal in January, that Dempsey has sold out.

For a fighter like Dempsey, his decision to join Seattle is an uncharacteristic move. He decided to give up fighting for a first team place in England in exchange for a guaranteed starting spot. Perhaps he became frustrated with the lack of playing time at Tottenham, and grew tired of trying to prove himself. Regardless, he now has the comfort of knowing that he can bask in the limelight each week where he’ll be adored by tens of thousands of Seattle fans chanting his name. We may never know the real reason why Dempsey gave up his UEFA Champions League dream, but Seattle’s lucrative offer certainly was a factor.

The conveniently overlooked reality about Dempsey’s transfer from Tottenham to Seattle is that he failed at Spurs. He scored 7 goals in 29 league appearances, most notably the winner against Manchester United at Old Trafford, and the last minute equalizer in the reverse fixture. But overall, and many England-based Tottenham Hotspur supporters will agree, Dempsey was a flop. Tottenham supporters were frustrated by his performances. They couldn’t see where he best fit in with the squad. Their chief complaint was that he wasn’t gifted or creative enough as a midfielder, but at the same time, he wasn’t a prototypical striker.

During the latter half of last season, his teammate teammate Gylfi Sigurdsson had a decent run of form (five goals in the remaining months) that undermined Dempsey’s position on the team. Plus, this summer, Dempsey fell further down the pecking order with the signings of midfielder Paulinho and winger Nacer Chadli.

The reality that was staring Dempsey in the face was that he needed to leave Tottenham Hotspur, and that if he stayed in Europe, he would have start all over again to try to fight for a first team place. While Dempsey flopped at Tottenham, the footballer showed enough promise at Spurs as well as continued impressive national team performances that seemingly would entice other Premier League clubs to make an offer for him. What the level of interest was, we don’t know, but he could have easily made a difference at an Everton, West Bromwich Albion, Crystal Palace, Cardiff or another promising Premier League side, or a side in La Liga or Serie A. The cold hard truth was that if he wanted to stay in England, he’d have to start all over again to try to elevate himself into a UEFA Champions League team. And at age 30, time was running out.

The frustrating thing about Dempsey is that many of us, myself included, believed he was capable of playing in the UEFA Champions League. Few managers or English football supporters in the Premier League would agree with that, but having seen him play so often, I believe he had the determination and eye for goal to play at the highest level in world football. That’s why Dempsey’s move to Seattle is disappointing. It’s not disappointing because he’s just moving from the Premier League to MLS. It’s because he’s underselling himself and has seemingly given up his fight and dream.

Don’t forget that this is a footballer who engineered a move away from Fulham last summer in search of UEFA Champions League soccer, where he tried to force a move to Liverpool, but ended at Tottenham after the White Hart Lane club signed him on transfer deadline day for a transfer fee of £6.2million. So, to see him throw this all away is such a disappointment for the one American who has the best opportunity to become a true star on the European continent.

Before he signed with Tottenham, Dempsey said:

“It’s no secret that I would like to play Champions League one day in my career. If it’s meant to be, it will be.”

Unfortunately for Dempsey, he’s given up on his dream far too early.

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  1. T Naylor

    August 6, 2013 at 11:40 am

    Dempsey while talented was the wrong man for the wrong system. Tottenham relied on track stars in a fast running counter attack style – which Dempsey is ill suited for. While not slow, in the wake of Bale, Defoe and Lennon, he looked flat footed. He needed to be on a more possession oriented team. From the first game I saw him playing for the Spurs, it looked like a bad fit.

  2. Joe

    August 5, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    soooooooo desperate to troll. at least this post wasn’t filled with wrong words and punctuation like other recent posts.

  3. T Dorazio

    August 5, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    The problem with the opinion is that it offers two arguments that are incongruent, so it comes off as being aloof and just trying to back an opinion by throwing factoids at a wall and hoping they stick. (1) Dempsey should not have left Spurs because he should have stayed and competed for a place. (2) Dempsey was a flop only scoring seven goals in 29 appearances. Why would he stay or be wanted if he was a flop? Either he was good enough or he wasn’t. If he was, then he should stay and fight for a place. If not, then it is reasonable to leave and go play. To back the inferiority claim, it is cited that Sigurdsson was far better scoring a whopping 5 goals. 5 goals! Amazing. Dempsey was in the top-5 in scoring the previous year on a club where he didn’t have to compete every practice for a starting spot. What manager of mid to lower table team would bench their best scorer. So, Dempsey obviously would become a much better player going back to a situation like Fulham where he was assured a start every weekend and could help his team be mid table if he would score 10-15 goals next season and finish in the top 5 in scoring again. So, then what has he proven. He can score double digit goals when he gets 38 matches and is the go-to guy? I’m therefore conclude as does your article that he is a sellout or is it that he is a flop? Whatever, I agree because the logic is so clear.

  4. Logan

    August 5, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    He’s fighting for more than himself with this move. He’s trying to grow soccer as a whole in this country. He’s looking beyond himself. Its an equally admirable feat. In the end, its his choice to make.

  5. Dorian Speed

    August 5, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    “OMG the sky is falling” type of article this was not. By any means.

    I didn’t get that vibe at all from Gaffer’s piece.

  6. Christopher Harris

    August 5, 2013 at 8:43 pm

    Here’s an interesting article by Grant Wahl, which charts the developments that happened in the signing of Clint Dempsey. Follow the money trail at

    • CTBlues

      August 6, 2013 at 12:52 pm

      The single entity thing needs to go and each team needs to run itself. The league should have no say in player movement.

      • David

        August 8, 2013 at 11:14 am

        The single entity “thing” cannot go without destroying and reforming the league. It is a part of its inherent design and is the basis for the parity that the league displays, and allows owners to share the same information to use for their own business plans and strategies. This is a concept seen in game theory and most prevalently in the concept of the Nash Equilibrium to allow everyone to determine their best options based on the actions of others within their economy of scale. Restructuring would cause a competitive imbalance and would likely land the league and all of its investor/owners in court for a very long time. I highly doubt that the league would survive such a foolish endeavor.
        With regards to player movement of this caliber, that is to say DP level, the player and the team can come to an agreement outside of the typical allocation process which works more like a waiver wire in other American leagues.

  7. gillyrosh

    August 5, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    It’s only been a few days, but I am already over all of these “OMG – the sky is falling because Dempsey moved to Seattle!” pieces.

    If Demsey saw Tottenham bringing in players who would further limit his playing time and no other European clubs were pursuing him, what was he supposed to do? You said yourself that he was a flop at Spurs and that supporters were disappointed with his performances. Was he supposed to stay there and sit on the bench just so he could call himself a Spurs player? What kind of sense does that make? And who says Spurs would be keen to keep paying him just to sit on the bench!

    As for the assertion that he could have benefited a side like West Brom or Crystal Palace, that’s at best wishful thinking. Those teams showed zero interest in him. Was he supposed to wait around hoping they’d eventually make an offer?

    Like many a player of his age and career stage, Dempsey went with the team that showed interest in him (the only one it seems like). This strikes me as a reasonable decision on his part. Why it’s being greeted in some quarters as the worst thing he could do for his career is beyond me.

  8. goatslookshifty

    August 5, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    He thought Ted Lasso was actually the new manager od Totnum and forced the move.

    • Dorian Speed

      August 5, 2013 at 8:40 pm

      od Totnum is such a sweet club. Way better than Tottenham. Like, super better.


  9. Brad

    August 5, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Given that none of us are able to read Dempsey’s mind all of us are making rather large assumptions regarding his motives for coming back to the US. While the Gaffer made a valid argument that Dempsey did not live up to expectations at Tottenham, I think the larger point about him giving up on his dreams (and the overall negative tone of the article) is a little shortsighted.

    Most people have multiple goals/dreams. All we know is that Dempsey at one point said he would really like to play in the Champions League. How do we know, there are not other things that he cares about more?

    What if his ultimate dream is to win the World Cup? In that case, fighting for minimal playing time at Tottenham would be a detriment. What if his dream is to develop the popularity of soccer as much as possible in the US? Adding his name recognition to further publicize the amazing atmosphere in Seattle might just be the best way for him to do that.

    Point is, none of us know his true motives. I just wonder why some of you are choosing to focus on the negatives of what is a mostly positive move for soccer in this country.

    • dougzilla

      August 5, 2013 at 8:21 pm

      The title of the article has a flavor of sarcasm to it. Did you not see it?
      He’s back, he already supposedly conquered MLS the first time around. In reality, he should have never pulled the BS he did last year at Fulham. It made him look like a real American a-hole, not cavalier. The Liverpool deal backfired, and Totts picked him up as a filler to their roster.

  10. goatslookshifty

    August 5, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    After all is said and done, he’ll be making a ton of money and will be beloved by his country for this choice. Years down the line he might regret that he never gave the best league(s) in the world one more try. That’s something he’ll have to live with, not us.

    • Brad

      August 5, 2013 at 8:08 pm

      I think you made the exact point I was trying to make below only with a lot less words. Who are we to tell somebody that they gave up on their dream?

      For all we know, Dempsey’s dream is to have the most fun possible while playing soccer. Maybe at this point in his life playing in front of an amazing crowd in a great city is the best option to satisfy that dream.

  11. kk

    August 5, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    I really don’t see this helping add any credibility to MLS.
    Dempsey is not in his prime and had limited options if any in the BPL.
    Another player on the backside of a career taking a high dollar retirement tour in the USA.

  12. dust

    August 5, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    Its a good thing for the MLS PR for sure, but he is not at his peak as a player, for me that was 3 years ago, He is at a peak in terms of recognition….

    Good for him anyway, seems like a nice guy, just not as good as he needed to be to nail starting spot at spurs is all.

  13. CTBlues

    August 5, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    I think Dempsey should have stayed at Fulham, but if he really wanted to play in the UCL he should have tried to move to Celtic or to a team in France that qualified for the league.

  14. Foxy_Woxy

    August 5, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    Completely disagree with the tenor of this article. It was obvious that AVB was pushing Dempsey further and further down the pecking order. What next, another stop at a mid-table PL side? Been there, done that.

  15. jtm371

    August 5, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    two thumbs up for the article.dempsey gets the money and can be a star in Seattle and coast.bust ass to make the starting XI in EPL took the easy way out.sorry to see he and donovan turn their back on the EPL.

    • Foxy_Woxy

      August 5, 2013 at 5:11 pm

      Running back to Fulham or like club and playing big fish in small pond doesn’t exactly strike me as taking the hard road, does it?

      Facts are facts, Dempsey wasn’t going to get on a CL-level team and push for ample playing time.

      • jtm371

        August 5, 2013 at 7:18 pm

        i am disappointed the two best american players turned their backs to playing at the highest level to challenge and to get better.i don’t think he will get better by starting in the mls the overall talent is second rate.i thought Texans did not back down from a challenge well Clint backed down for the easy money.

  16. SirJonesy

    August 5, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Some people can look at this as a lack of ambition, but I see it as a tremendous accomplishment for an American born player and a very smart move. Something kids playing the sport in this country can look up to, because believe it or not, the best athletes in our country want to play sports where they can make money and live their dream life.

    – A 4-year $32 Million guaranteed contract at the age of 30. That is more than players like Robben, Ozil, Khedira, Totti, and BALOTELLI receive.

    – Honor of being the highest paid player in league history.

    – Playing in front of 41,000 fans every home game (more than Tottenham’s average of 36,000)

    – Leading a team that so desperately wants to be the best team in CONCACAF, let alone MLS.

    – The opportunity to play every minute of every game prior to the 2014 World Cup.

    • Kartik Krishnaiyer

      August 5, 2013 at 3:30 pm

      This to me is the upside of this deal. For the first time MLS which had an unwritten policy to pay foreigners more money and not compete to bring Americans back home has changed its policy. It is something young American boys and girls can aspire to be.

      However, I wish it were a top American playing in the Champions League.

      Hopefully, Michael Bradley and Roma can crack the top 3 in Serie A this season.

    • CTBlues

      August 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm

      The only downside for him in this deal is having to play in front of those 41k fans on a fake pitch.

    • dust

      August 5, 2013 at 5:23 pm


      Spurs capacity is just over 36,000 it’s a stadia limit, sold out every game, new stadia in 2015 will be 60,000.

      • CTBlues

        August 6, 2013 at 8:30 pm

        Seattle vs Portland match on the 25th has already sold 66,800 tickets.

  17. Dean Stell

    August 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    I think you’re right on Gaffer. I can understand that this was the best deal available, but it is a BIG step down. I’m mostly irritated that watching Dempsey live will now consist of staying up until midnight on some iOS app rather than watching over breakfast on my TV.

    • CTBlues

      August 5, 2013 at 5:14 pm

      Buy MLS DirectKick to watch it on your TV then or MLS Live and hook your computer up to your TV, but still 10pm kickoffs on Sundays and weeknights suck.

  18. i like tuesday

    August 5, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    Tottenham was always a bad fit. Tottenham always panic buy player they don’t really need on deadline day and they didn’t need Dempsey. Bale and Defoe typify Spurs attacking approach. Dempsey is better when the players around him are not the ones who choose shoot as the first, second and third option.

    Oddly, he would’ve been great at Arsenal where they need someone to us the space they’ve made with their passing to go ahead and shoot occasionally. But Dempsey is a dry-aged Texas steak when Wenger is very attached to his veal…

    So Dempsey burned the Fulham bridge but then didn’t get the offer he wanted. Dempsey cashes in his chips and returns as one of the best, best paid players in MLS. Sounds better than moving to another mid-table English team. He’s secured the financial future of his family. Fair move to him. Money was always important to Dempsey.

    • Gary

      August 5, 2013 at 2:10 pm

      Many replies to this and most BPL threads seem to denigrate “mid table” clubs. Would be a sad day were it not for these “mid table” clubs and their many rabid fans. Not every team is blessed with crazy spending owner/s, yet that shouldn’t define their worthiness.

      • i like tuesday

        August 6, 2013 at 12:00 pm

        Nothing against mid-table clubs, but by definition they don’t happen to play in the Champion’s League. Dempsey could just as easily have “given up on his dream” (as this article accuses him of doing) by going to a midtable English team as going back to MLS.

        • Christopher Harris

          August 6, 2013 at 12:10 pm

          Everton is not a mid-table team, and may have a chance of qualifying for the Champions League at the end of this coming season.

    • Nick

      August 5, 2013 at 2:11 pm

      Money is always important to professional athletes. Those that don’t are the exception to the rule.

  19. hanoverboxer

    August 5, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    You are totally right, Mr. Gaffer. I watch MLS every week on MLS Live, and boy it sucks. I’m sorry, but its true. This is a huge slide down the career ladder for him.

    Dempsey could have gone to WBA, a very respectable club in their own right, and their manager seemed very keen on him. Obviously, he just wants the easy lucre at this point.

    • yespage

      August 5, 2013 at 1:44 pm

      Would WBA have paid 6 million for him? How much was he actually worth?

    • Nick

      August 5, 2013 at 2:09 pm

      Manager seemed keen on him but was the club going to spend $20 million to get him? ($9 mil transfer fee plus something equivalent to Dempsey’s contract, $10 million range for 3 years.)

      Let’s put it this way, IF there had been a transfer fee with Nicolas Anelka, do you really think WBA would have signed him?

      Don’t get me wrong, I believe Dempsey did not want to leave England, he was forced to leave. Tottenham put him on notice. Does anyone REALLY think he would have made 22 league appearances this year?

    • US Fan1

      August 5, 2013 at 3:53 pm

      @ hanoverboxer,

      So MLS sucks according to you, and yet, you buy the MLS LIVE package and spent your time watching the matches?
      Did I get that right?

      You Euro-posers are reaching a new low every day. Pathetic.

      • hanoverboxer

        August 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm

        Well I buy and watch MLS live because I want to support pro soccer’s development in this country, and I’m always hopeful that I’ll be pleasantly surprised. Unfortunately, I rarely am.

    • Dorian Speed

      August 5, 2013 at 8:35 pm

      Your logic is beyond absurd, yet so fascinating at the same time.

      You say,”I watch MLS every week on MLS Live, and boy it sucks.”

      And you do this because you want to “support pro soccer’s development in the US”.

      Uhhhh. Oh k a y ?

      How is buying a soccer package (that you loathe watching) from a cable company “supporting” the “development of pro soccer” in the US?

      I just don’t get that.

      And to top it off, your main words about pro soccer in the US are, “it sucks”.

      You know what you should do? You should NOT SUPPORT the development of the MLS if it simply pains you to watch matches.

      Why would you put yourself through such misery?

      Better yet, you should go buy cases and cases of sardines. Eat them all. Hate every second of every bite (but hold to the hope that one bite soon they’ll start to taste beyond delicious) because you want to support all of the wonderful fishermen across your great land.

      … Yummy.


      Regardless, to each their own. Have fun watching Chivas Mexi (I mean USA) playing DC United. Sure it’ll be a cracker of a match.

  20. Marc L

    August 5, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    I don’t really consider Dempsey a UCL-caliber starting XI guy, though. He scored a bunch of goals at Fulham, but was pretty well all they had that year. Who else did Fulham have up front? Andy Johnson I think?

    So if Dempsey is basically “top scorer on mid-table club” then maybe becoming the “face” of the MLS might not be as much of a step down as it seems.

    I think being American got him talked about a hell of a lot more than he would have been otherwise. That novelty was wearing off and also he would have been looking at a lack of the 80-IQ Fox Soccer studio dingbats gibbering about his “leadership” every time he did something marginally competent.

    But yes, Gaffer, I sense some lack of ambition beneath all this too.

  21. Gary

    August 5, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    IMO he made a huge mistake leaving Fulham. He was flourishing there and would have had first team spot locked up. Every good player can’t play in the Champions League, there simply aren’t enough spots. Pure case of “grass isn’t always greener……”

  22. James Gregory

    August 5, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    With the World Cup around the corner, this move makes sense for his Champions League aspirations.

    If he stays at Tottenham, he will be pining for minutes, and he may not get the look from Klinsmann. Even if he does get the look, he won’t have solid game time to yield a game fitness to start for Klinsmann. So, by moving to Seattle, he has essentially secured a starting spot for the World Cup—at least in theory.

    As a result, pending a solid USA run in the Cup and some outstanding work by Deuce, he may still yet get a Champions League contender to come pining for him before deadline day in 2014.

    Would he rather pine for minutes at Tottenham or have Champions League contenders pining for his services? Seattle is a strategic move in the greater scheme of things.

  23. yespage

    August 5, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    I’d say he didn’t flop as much as he wasn’t quite good enough, or fit in very well, especially now. Adebayor, now there is a flop!

    Dempsey’s age and price were against him. He wanted to play somewhere specific, but it’d be hard to find a team at that level where he could squeeze in.

    Dempsey did well, except for the transfer drama last year. Now he his back in the MLS.

  24. Nick

    August 5, 2013 at 11:41 am

    In Dempsey’s 7 year career in England he scored 57 goals. The whole “proving himself as a player,” seven years into his career when he proved it a long time ago is something that really irritates me. Why should he have to prove himself at Crystal Palace, Cardiff, or West Brom? IF he were English, he would go right into the starting XI at those three clubs, you know it and I know it.

    The reality was no English (or European) club wanted to spend the $9 million Tottenham asked for, PLUS the contract to Dempsey of at least what he was getting in London. So, those three clubs above are going to investment $20 million in Dempsey?

    Unfortunately, Dempsey has no to limited transfer value in 3 years. If Tottenham didn’t have that price tag on him, my guess is he would still be in England at a mid-table club.

    Seattle made an offer that Tottenham couldn’t refuse (apparently the only club willing to pay the demanded transfer fee) and that Dempsey couldn’t personally refuse because no other club would have given him a 4 year, $32 million contract. NO professional footballer would turn down a similar increase in what they currently made to what was offered.

    • Christopher Harris

      August 5, 2013 at 11:53 am

      Any footballer or manager is only as good as his last game, or series of games. The fact that Dempsey did so well at Fulham, which he most certainly did, means little if the prevailing attitude about him is that he didn’t cut it at Tottenham.

    • 4chambers

      August 5, 2013 at 12:50 pm

      IF he were English, he would go right into the starting XI

      truly great pt. It will not be too many more years before America competes on the world stage. The youth system is bulging with talent and the culture is changing here. Dempsey helped make that happen, and may give it a stronger push over the next few years.
      I’m an American and have been a Spurs fan for 30 years. It was with great joy to see Dempsey contribute to their victories through assists to Bale and others and very important goals himself. His work load and shot accuracy was fantastic. He made defenders mark him, and fought them for every ball. Tottenham heave raised themselves to another level.
      It was even more exciting to watch my 6 yr old boy get fired up throughout last season because of Dempsey and Bale. He has chosen to have a ball glued to his feet snce he was four, this year took him to another level.
      I trust Dempsey made the right choice for he and his families dreams, and respect him more than ever for leaving the Spurs right now. I can’t wait for the EPL to begin again, but I will miss Demspey… and always support his play. He may not have the shine of some but he is an efffin genius.

      • dougzilla

        August 5, 2013 at 3:08 pm

        If he was English, he also would not have pulled the American stick and ball agent’s route of holding out and not showing for Fulham. That did not go over well with other teams management. Problem is, fans are looking at this through Red White and Blue goggles and not the whole picture. Of course he has what it takes to play and score in EPL….he simply chose money over the opportunity. Disappointing, yes. Blame him? No. You take as much as you can get. I just hope his play stays healthy and sharp in MLS. Call it “euro-snobbery”, but it is a fact that the MLS has a long way to go before its a world stage.

  25. fsquid

    August 5, 2013 at 11:36 am

    This is great for the US though, he’ll be well rested for Brazil.

  26. Stephen

    August 5, 2013 at 11:32 am

    One factor nobody is talking about is family. He has young children and it had to be a challenge living abroad away from family back home, a challenge that would have increased had he moved to Spain or Italy. Maybe this is a case of an athlete putting his family before his career. Not such a bad thing. As a USA and Tottenham supporter I wish Deuce a successful year leading up to Brazil.

  27. bradjmoore48

    August 5, 2013 at 11:30 am

    I think this is less a disappointment and more of a reality check. If he’s a squad player at best for Spurs, he isn’t going to break into any Champions League team in England, Spain, or Italy – he could at some clubs in Germany or France, but a Schalke or a Lyon isn’t going to pay 7m Euros for a 30-year old when they get a player of equal quality for the same value that is 5-10 years younger. Dempsey’s best shot at Champions League would be if a team in Turkey or Russia decided to take him on, at which point, ask yourself, is that even worth it?

    If the goal was Champions League, how is going to Everton or West Brom going to get you close to that?

    Dempsey is just over the hill in terms of his peak performance – he isn’t going to do any better in England or Europe, so why not enjoy center-stage in the US to see out your career. He never got that kind of respect until very recently, either when he was with the Revs or at Fulham. Guy deserves at least that.

  28. christian

    August 5, 2013 at 11:30 am

    I think you makes some valid points here Gaffer. It will be great to have our best players playing here in the states so we can watch them but we still have a great amount of players still playing in Europe.

    Let’s hope Jozy continues to develop and shows off his scoring ability at Sunderland this year.

  29. Michael

    August 5, 2013 at 11:26 am

    HIS dream, or the dream you think he should have?

    Funny thing about dreams — they keep making new ones.

    • Christopher Harris

      August 5, 2013 at 11:55 am

      The article states what his dream was including a direct quote.

    • gillyrosh

      August 5, 2013 at 11:57 am

      For serious! The presumptuousness of this piece is really quite staggering.

    • COYDenial

      August 5, 2013 at 1:18 pm

      That is adorable outlook, Michael. You have any qoutes about someone else’s opinion?

  30. Paul

    August 5, 2013 at 11:22 am

    And no i dont think Dempsey is a flop, its just that he is not a CL type of player. Thats why I get mad at Donovan because talent wise he’s better than Dempsey, its not even close but he never strived to reach the very top like Dempsey did. Dempsey failed but at least he tried. Donovan is so good but…

  31. Paul

    August 5, 2013 at 11:19 am

    4yr32 million is a nice compensation if you ask me. And with the founders fanbase, maybe Demps can take them to new heights. The MLS is severely lacking a truly dominant team.

    I’m hoping we can get to the point where the MLS is successful enough that a Pyramid system can be integrated. Its the final frontier. I used to think a merger between LA liga MX and MLS would be great but that is just a PIPE dream.

  32. Clampdown

    August 5, 2013 at 11:18 am

    I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you’ve written here, Gaffer. But it is interesting you use the word flop to describe him. He cost only 6 million pounds and scored 12 goals in 43 appearances for Spurs. I’m sorry, but that’s not a bad return, though it could have been better.

    In contrast, Gylfi, whom you have mentioned here, scored 7 in 48 appearances and cost nearly 9M pounds. Is he a flop, too?

    • Christopher Harris

      August 5, 2013 at 11:59 am

      Gylfi has been a disappointment overall, but he’s only 23 and has been featuring for Tottenham quite a lot in their preseason matches. He’ll have plenty of opportunities this season to show us whether he’s worth £9million.

      To describe Dempsey as a flop is appropriate given he came, he scored but didn’t conquer. Dempsey won’t be missed by most English-based Tottenham supporters.

      • 4chambers

        August 5, 2013 at 12:30 pm

        but his goals against Man U will make him a legend for many

        • Janujaz2013

          August 5, 2013 at 12:43 pm

          He is a legend for doing nothing in both games against us. He was,the worst outfield player for spurs in both games. He got two lucky tap ins. First Lindergarrd pushes the rebound from a Bale shot straight to him and then De gea makes a massive error on punching a cross and it fell to Dempsey. What,part of that makes him a legend for anyone. If hes a legend for being the lucky one on the end of two GK errors then i have to say that is small club mentality at its best. He did nothing in the two games and didnt cause our defence any trouble. Tell me what is a legend then?

      • gbewing

        August 5, 2013 at 8:17 pm

        there is that small little detail of Gareth Bale being on the same team. When someone like Van Persie- Bale have an unprecedented season of scoring doesn’t it make sense other’s scoring will go down? He changed positions as well – lets look at who flopped at United- “flop” is an over the top attention seeking word designed to start an argument and draw negative attention- and hits- very cynical Gaffer, but this site is becoming that kind of site isn’t it- Demps didn’t have a good season at Spurs but the hyperbole from you doesn’t change reality on any story you drum up

        keep going with hate USA soccer campaign

        • Christopher Harris

          August 5, 2013 at 8:39 pm

          Gbewing, again we disagree, which is fine and a healthy debate. But the constructive criticism on Dempsey’s season at Tottenham is nothing new on this site. Here’s an article we published in March that raises some of the same points addressed in my article: I’m certainly not the first person to call him a flop. The best word to describe his Tottenham season, in my book, is disappointing.

          We don’t hate US soccer by any means. Since rebranding the site as World Soccer Talk, we’ve increased our coverage of the USMNT, NASL and MLS. But we’re not going to kiss ass and jump on the Dempsey bandwagon. No matter what league it is, we’re going to continue calling it the way we see it — whether it’s positive, negative or in-between.

          • gbewing

            August 5, 2013 at 10:20 pm

            This site is a flop by that defintion

            • Christopher Harris

              August 5, 2013 at 10:30 pm

              You’re entitled to your opinion.

        • BrassMonkey

          August 6, 2013 at 9:01 am

          You can argue that Clint deserved more playing time, and you can blame Bale for taking too many shots – but if Clint was playing to his ability he would have forced his way onto the pitch. He didn’t.

          He had an off year and now he’s running away from the bright lights to retire in a second-rate league with the Sounders. MLS is not on the level of the Premier League- that’s not up for debate, it’s a fact. He moved to a CL club and then transferred to a lower-level league the very next year. That’s pretty much the definition of a flop.

          None of those statements imply that I hate US soccer, or that I don’t respect Dempsey for what he has accomplished. They only imply that I’m rational enough to call it what it is.

    • Creige

      August 5, 2013 at 3:49 pm

      Dempsey scores and assists on the same number of premier league goals as Andy Carroll playing almost identical (but less minutes) and he is a flop where Andy is hailed by the Brits, gets a 15 mil pound transfer and 100K+ pound salary a week. I guess the Brits just hold themselves to a much lower standard. No surprise there.

      • BrassMonkey

        August 6, 2013 at 9:14 am

        I’m not impressed with Carroll either, but he does have more value as he’s a younger, developing player that meets the home-grown requirement.

        On the other hand, Dempsey is already at his peak- he clearly has a few good years left in him but he’s getting older. I’m sure one of the more savvy second-tier EPL clubs would have been happy to pick him up- it sounded like Everton were after him but Clint decided that he wanted to come home to the US.

        That’s his decision but I would have liked to see him play in Europe for another year or two. Hopefully Bradley or Altidore will step into the void and be “that guy” for US fans.

  33. David G

    August 5, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Players often say they want “champions league” to leave a club.

    If he was that interested in champions league he could have signed with a French side in champs league, but it was all about the money. If he wanted champs league so badly why did you want to join Liverpool and eventually join Tottenham, both of which didn’t play in the holy grail last year.

    Players don’t care about champions league just like we don’t care if we work for the top company as long as another company will pay us more.

    Seattle paid more, end of story.

    • CTBlues

      August 5, 2013 at 12:56 pm

      Very true, if he wanted UCL football and to stay in Britian he could have tried to sign with Celtic.

  34. jack cavanaugh

    August 5, 2013 at 11:15 am

    faux journalism…what a kook

  35. Frill Artist

    August 5, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Champions League football is not all it’s cracked up to be.

  36. supa phil

    August 5, 2013 at 11:13 am

    woldsoccertalk says it so it must be true. it’s such a reputable source for content, you know.

    • Frill Artist

      August 5, 2013 at 11:14 am

      It’s just an opinion piece. If you have your own opinion, state it. No one is inherently right or wrong.

      • Guy

        August 5, 2013 at 11:38 am

        Damn! There I go agreeing with you again! 😉

    • yespage

      August 5, 2013 at 11:57 am

      That post is barking up the wrong tree. This is an opinion piece and reasonable one at that.

  37. Eric

    August 5, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Look at the big picture though. If he stays at Spurs he struggles for minutes this year. Then, IF they make Champions League next year, they have even more money and he will be 31. At that point you have to figure they try to unload him and bring in even more big name talents. I get the frustration with him leaving EPL, but I think his UCL dreams were not going to come with Spurs.

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