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Champions League Final, Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund: Open Thread

WHO: Borussia Dortmund versus Bayern Munich
WHAT: Champions League Final
WHEN: Kick-off is scheduled for 2:45pm ET
WHERE: Live from Wembley Stadium in London
HOW: Viewers in the USA can watch the game live on FOX (the free-to-air network) and FOX Soccer 2Go

Bayern Munich faces Borussia Dortmund in all-German match at this year’s Champions League final to find out who will be crowned the best team in Europe.

For viewers in the United States, pre-match coverage kicks off at 2pm ET featuring the FOX Sports team of Rob Stone, Eric Wynalda, Warren Barton and Brian McBride. Brad Friedel is also scheduled to be involved. The commentary team for the match itself will be Gus Johnson and Warren Barton, while FOX Soccer 2Go is offering a version with Martin Tyler as the lead voice.

Before, during and after today’s match, join the conversation in the comments section below.

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  1. gillyrosh

    May 26, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Glad that for once a final lived up to the pre-match hype.

  2. Transic

    May 26, 2013 at 6:05 am

    I’m not sure if anyone noticed but there was an ad about NBC’s upcoming Premier League coverage (the one with the opera song) during halftime. When I saw that, I thought “Way to rub it in there!” 🙂

  3. Taimur

    May 26, 2013 at 12:49 am

    What an entertaining match this was! Such a pulsating match that even Gus Johnson’s commentary didn’t bother me too much today!

  4. Fulhamish

    May 26, 2013 at 12:19 am

    Agree 100% with the criticism of both Gus and Fox Sports.

    That being said, if the coverage was enough to ruin what was truly an exceptional match for you, I think you have to ask yourself if you are actually a fan of the sport in the first place.

    Why continue to beat a dead horse? Can’t we focus on the game? There is no shortage of talking points and yet 90% of this thread was devoted to Gus. Again.

    At least Gus showed some interest in the match, unlike most of the comments here.

    • gillyrosh

      May 27, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      Sad isn’t it? So many talking point s in this match – Dante’s non-red card, Subotic’s clearance – yet the majority of posts in this thread slagging a commentator. *smh*

  5. Davesee

    May 25, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    The Buffalo Bills analogy was also fantastic when he led off with “In America” because it’s not like this was the broadcast for America or anything…

  6. jtm371

    May 25, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    BVB got screwed the marked one should have been sent off for the elbow and Dante should have seen a second yellow.BM got all the calls.did not think the Italian ref did well at all.oh well let me be the first to say GO HORNETS beat Palace.

    • kagawa23

      May 26, 2013 at 1:46 am

      JTM Ucl reffing has been a joke this season. Ribbery can hit guys in the face and then Dante can stud Reus in theballs while on a yelow and then not even get a card.

  7. Smokey Bacon

    May 25, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    Fox are going to ruin the World Cup when they get it in 2018. It will be 2006 all over again if Gus is still around. There is absolutely no difference between him and the abomination that was Dave O’Brien. Espn learned from their mistake. Fox shows no sign of doing so with this idiot Shenks at the helm. The utter disrespect to the viewer is beyond belief. The only way we stop the madness is by not watching. It’s time to boycott the champions league until Fox comes to its senses. Only when we drive their ratings into the ground will they bin Gus.

  8. El Duce

    May 25, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    Seriously, I have MLS Live and none of the local team broadcasters are as abject as Fox’s crew. Your American football-style bloviate-n-scream are not required, nor are they appreciated.

    • DiscoBallsDeep

      May 25, 2013 at 11:43 pm

      you make it sound like american soccer fans are enthusiastically behind this. we’re FING embarrassed.

  9. Cantona

    May 25, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Just watched the “soccer for dummies” broadcast from Fox… Curt Menefee?? Really, again.

    This broadcast shows again that Mr. Johnson does not know the rules of football.. 45 second delay on a response to Dante’s foul.. Tyler and Neville called it in 2 seconds… It like he got a note from Barton.. And again with the awkward silence.. Did you drop your fact sheets Gus?… Then the screaming at .. Well everything.. Still can’t figure out a football moment.. So he screams… I could care less about name pronunciations as opposed to his cluelessness as to what is going on.. On the pitch..

    How long will the Eric Shanks hard-on for his pet celebrity Gus Johnson continue.

    This is a failure of epic proportions… Time to swallow your Gus-Gasms and pick a tried and true announcer for your marquee Champions League Matches.. ie hit the switch into the control room over to he guy that really is the celebrity in the football world MARTIN TYLER


  10. Matt

    May 25, 2013 at 6:51 pm

    too many commercials on FOX, they probably had 1-2 minutes of analysis at halftime

  11. Cantona

    May 25, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    Shocking refereeing .. Ribery should have been off and how did Dante stay on the pitch? That foul was 10x worse than Nani’s… He didn’t even get a yellow!?!? Sorry but Dortmund caught he short end of this one

    Not that I’m bitter 🙂

    Can’t wait to watch the comedy rerun with Johnson …saw he first 5mins Gotta laugh at his Robin calls … I just want to scream “where’s Batman”… Eye-in robin !!

    Too funny.. Great match by Tyler and Neville pure class.. Couple of friends caught the Al Jazeera feed with Peter Drury and Gary lineker at halftime/post… Tons of options to the Gus Johnson experiment .


    • San Franciscan

      May 25, 2013 at 7:53 pm

      AlJazeera are the best! I had my experience with them and nothing can beat them. Even Sky IMO.

      • El Duce

        May 25, 2013 at 8:04 pm

        not untrue in the least. I like al jaz’s coverage.

  12. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    What was the speech at the end?! Horrible.

    • San Franciscan

      May 25, 2013 at 5:08 pm


    • El Duce

      May 25, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      It was garbage, plain and simple.

  13. cmasia

    May 25, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    The trophy has been presented. The celebrations continue.

    And Sky Sports has still not had a commercial break since half time.

    FOX is deep into their 3rd break since full time.

    • El Duce

      May 25, 2013 at 8:03 pm

      Happier than ever these idiots lost the PL rights.

  14. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    And now talknig about a team who won 4 superbowls. WHO CARES?!

  15. Dust

    May 25, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    How Bayern had 10 men after that own is beyond me, Dante should’ve got a second yellow.

    Unlucky BVB…

    • Steven

      May 25, 2013 at 4:57 pm

      I agree that Dante probably should have seen his second yellow and Bayern should have gone down to 10 men. I think the referee saw it as incidental rather than blatant and because he was already on a yellow decided against a second yellow. He did the right thing though and gave the penalty. I thought the referee was quite good. Not what we’re used to in the EPL.

  16. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Pep Guardiola will have a very difficult job next season. On Saturday Bayern could make it a treble, There is no forward from there.

    • gillyrosh

      May 27, 2013 at 12:38 pm

      Of course there is. Guardiola’s job will be to keep winning.

  17. David

    May 25, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Dortmund were vulnerable in the center of defense and they paid for it with that Robben goal. Good game and it was played in the right spirit. Kudos to the Bundesliga for producing two terrific teams. Too bad it didn’t get to extra time but Bayern just about deserved it.

  18. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    Can someone tell me how Madrid and Chelsea got rid of Robben?

    • Taylor

      May 25, 2013 at 6:31 pm

      injured too many times. Great winger when he was at PSV but got injured quite a lot in England and Spain.

      • San Franciscan

        May 25, 2013 at 8:55 pm

        Looking at the stats, Robben played more when he as at Chelsea and Real Madrid.

  19. CH

    May 25, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Sorry Gus haters but he hasnt been bad today, no he’s no martin tyler and he will never be. But today hes been ok.

    • BA14

      May 25, 2013 at 4:42 pm

      Agree, he did good today.

    • Carter

      May 25, 2013 at 4:55 pm

      Was that good? I felt like I was watching professional wrestling with all of that yelling. I’m glad Fox lost the rights to soccer. All of this “dumbing down” of soccer for American audiences. It’s just ridiculous.

    • Scrumper

      May 25, 2013 at 5:15 pm

      Gormless Gus screaming in his TV voice is not OK. Good riddance to him and poxy Fox.

    • El Duce

      May 25, 2013 at 8:05 pm

      Give me a break. Ian Darke would have run circles around fumblin’ Gus and his TOUCHDOWN!! inflection.

  20. BA14

    May 25, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    This is great stuff here. Barnburner is right.

  21. Denverexpat

    May 25, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    The ref has had a good game – let it flow and called what is necessary but not falling for all the acting….he has done well

  22. Aude

    May 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    What about Barton, he is useless also. and what about The studio hosts? You think Fox would do that to the super bowl? Why is the Champion league final different? I am paying good money for that crap.

  23. kingtut

    May 25, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    So true, He could also do with prozac. What is it about these English ex players who struggle with the past tense of the verb to be.

  24. Denverexpat

    May 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Barton needs to take elocution lessons – the London accent is horrible for commentary – and you cannot pressurize anyone unless you use a hyperbaric chamber!

    • El Duce

      May 25, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      Barton’s terrible, but Ian Wright and his nonstop flow of consciousness was even worse.

  25. kingtut

    May 25, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Besides an ignorance of the game and his storied inappropriate timing, the tone and timbre of Johnson’s voice has a chalk on a blackboard pitch. But most annoying is his fractured American sports cadence. It just does not suit football. Is this the missing link the Fox suits have determined will draw ambivalent Americans to the sport. Relay it in baseball meter with an upswing of wild screams at the sign of action.

    • Evan

      May 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm

      It’s like he’s come in with this American idea that soccer is boring, with only spurts of action. It’s reflected in his commentary.

      • El Duce

        May 25, 2013 at 8:09 pm

        Best summation of what’s wrong with American ideas on football announcing.

    • El Duce

      May 25, 2013 at 8:16 pm

      It’s the ridiculously-lampooned highlighted hockey puck fox tried to pull with their NHL broadcasts years ago.

      Idiots haven’t learned one bit.

  26. Andrew

    May 25, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    Great game so far and Gus is clearly well prepared

  27. Dust

    May 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Great game so far…Gus and Barton are predictably horrid…. Back to online…

    • ed

      May 25, 2013 at 3:44 pm

      TuneIn radio BBC world service radio Europe. Good commentary

  28. Aaron

    May 25, 2013 at 3:43 pm

  29. BA14

    May 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Great match so far.

  30. Evan

    May 25, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    “Coming from Athletico Bilbao”

  31. leafsfan1967

    May 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    I was able to sync the World Service BBC Five Live broadcast perfectly. What a relief!

    • Guy

      May 25, 2013 at 3:35 pm

      Yep. Perfect! 🙂

    • ed

      May 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      how are you watching it with perfect sync? What is your setup? My audio feed is ahead 🙁

      • Guy

        May 25, 2013 at 3:45 pm

        Dumb luck on my iPad. Synced right up. I’d sign off and try a different feed. I’m using TuneIn Radio on BBC World Australia.

  32. Guy

    May 25, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Come on, Gus. Neuer had that covered all the way. Please stop the SCREAMING!!

  33. Fulhamish

    May 25, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    I don’t think Gus is doing too bad of a job so far today.

    This isn’t a wind up, I swear.

    • Guy

      May 25, 2013 at 3:34 pm

      Other than the unnecessary screaming, I agree he has done better overall. Still sad, though.

      • Pete Q

        May 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm

        Unnecessary screaming is his trademark.

        • Guy

          May 25, 2013 at 3:41 pm


  34. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    The goalkeepers are having a go at it.

  35. Cantona

    May 25, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Yes the stream is Excellent HD for me.. Audio is crisp..

    Good… Because this is my new reality for Champions League games if the American basketball commentator is on.


  36. Leafsfan1967

    May 25, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    The other audio option is that the match is on the BBC World Service. If you have the TUNEINRADIO app find one of the World Service feeds and you will get the Five Live team of Alan Green and Mike Ingham.

    • ed

      May 25, 2013 at 3:12 pm

      Thank you so much i am forever grateful

    • Guy

      May 25, 2013 at 3:28 pm

      Aah. Relief! Thanks, so much! Bye, Gus.

    • Velocity_grl

      May 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm

      TuneIn and are blocking 5 live for me (I’m in the states). Alas, I have no idea how to work around it, I’m stuck with Gus screaming every 3 seconds.

      • leafsfan1967

        May 25, 2013 at 3:33 pm

        Don’t use the Five Live stream on TUNEIN use one for the BBC World Service.

        You will need to hunt for one because none of them say they are carrying the game. Also, some of the BBC World Service channels are carrying news and not the match.

        • Velocity_grl

          May 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm

          Woohoo, got it! Thank you so much!

      • ed

        May 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm

        Tune in to BBC world service europe in Tunein radio

  37. Dan

    May 25, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Disappointed that FOX Deportes is not offering an English feed.

  38. cmasia

    May 25, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    My Tyler / Neville stream is a good 2 1/2 minutes delayed, but it is worth delaying my FOX feed to sync great commentary with great video.

    • Velocity_grl

      May 25, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      Hello lads (and ladies):

      I found out about TalkSport from you guys just in time for the great FA cup final coverage, but they don’t seem to be calling the match there now-they’re doing call-ins and general news.

      Can anyone point me towards something else that might drown Gus Johnson out? If he screams one more time I’m going to throw something at the television.

  39. Pete Q

    May 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Ok…I’m watching online.

    It’s 10 mins in…how many nonsensical screams has Gus let out?…and has there been a “In the Six”?

  40. Cantona

    May 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Aaaah Martin Tyler and Gary Neville

    I won’t waste my time with the amateur basketball celebrity pretender.

    Stream gentlemen stream


  41. BostonGunner

    May 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    This is not in HD in Boston. Flicked on in HD very briefly but it’s in SD in letterbox on my cable system.

    • Aaron

      May 25, 2013 at 2:54 pm

      It flickered for a moment to HD, switched off completely for a few seconds, and now it’s back to SD. Basically this is now like watching the match on BeiN sports network or a bad Russian feed. Thanks again, Comcast.

      • BostonGunner

        May 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm

        With worse commentary.

      • BostonGunner

        May 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm

        I think it’s a network issue b/c all the other HD channels are working fine.

    • sicariis

      May 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm

      same problem here in NH tuning in Boston FOX on comcast. Might be a comcast issue though becuase its HD on Aereo.

      • sicariis

        May 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm

        And it just switched back to HD.

      • BostonGunner

        May 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm

        Now on in HD on Comcast in Boston.

  42. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    Oh did Gus just pronounced Muller’s name right? He said Muller no Mueller.

    • Tayo

      May 25, 2013 at 2:49 pm

      Damn u beat me to it!

  43. Guy

    May 25, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    Can we try to lay off the pronunciation errors today? Lots of others make them. Gus has much bigger problems than that.

    • San Franciscan

      May 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm

      How can we make the final fun then? Gus is ruining it so let’s make a day out of it.

      • Guy

        May 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm

        Well……..OK! 😀

  44. Pete Q

    May 25, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    FoxSoccer2Go once again is providing two feeds for the match. I wonder how many people actually click on the “Gus Johnson Commentary”?

  45. BA14

    May 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    I got Bayern 3-1.

  46. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    They forgot to mention that Bastian Schweinsteiger had a minor niggle while warming up, it looked like he will be replaced but hes fine now.

  47. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    Are they ust tying to make the final as american as possible? Calling Dortmund that they call them Hollywood FC, Calling Bayern like the Yankees.

    • Pete Q

      May 25, 2013 at 2:27 pm

      Fox keeps catering to the casual sports fan who just might happen to turn on this match. Rather than gearing the broadcast towards actual football fans.

      • San Franciscan

        May 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm

        And again with a quarterback, who cares?!

        • Pete Q

          May 25, 2013 at 2:29 pm

          Bunch of clowns.

          So happy I won’t have to watch them broadcast Premier League matches anymore.

  48. NashRambler

    May 25, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    Curt Menefee introduced Gus Johnson by saying that Johnson called the goal scored by Wigan in “extra time” in the FA Cup Final.

    This guy has been covering the Champions League Final for Fox for four years, how in the #?%!*& do you not know the difference between extra time and stoppage/injury/added time? Argggggggh!

    • Evan

      May 25, 2013 at 2:31 pm

      That would require him to actually put in some work to try to understand the sport. He’s probably as baffled that he’s still doing this as we are.

  49. James

    May 25, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    What channel is showing it? I have FSC on my TV and they are shoing Europa League review and they will be showing EPL match after that?

    • Pete Q

      May 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm

      Fox National

      • James

        May 25, 2013 at 2:35 pm


    • NashRambler

      May 25, 2013 at 2:22 pm

      Fox Network

  50. Matt

    May 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    already a good atmosphere…too bad both fans can’t get more seats, lots go to “corporate UEFA family”

  51. Evan

    May 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    The only thing worse than listening to Gus Johnson is having to listen to Curt Menefee.

    • Pete Q

      May 25, 2013 at 2:14 pm

      Fox is bringing out all of their “big guns”.

      I assume we will see a tweet from Piers soon.

      • El Duce

        May 25, 2013 at 8:08 pm

        lol, spot on. How about a scantily-clad gal or a big animated robot to really get into the Fox Sports mood here?

  52. San Franciscan

    May 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm

    Here we go with this idiot.

    • Pete Q

      May 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm

      I have the sound down. I’m just listening to the FoxSoccer2Go feed.

      But I saw him and Warren Barton pop up and I cringed.

  53. Pete Q

    May 25, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    The FoxSoccer2Go Pre-Match feed is pretty good. No commentary. Just the atmosphere at Wembley. The place is roaring!

  54. Pete Q

    May 25, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    Let the Gus bashing begin!!!

    Looking forward to it!!!

    • John Culea

      May 25, 2013 at 5:38 pm

      Gus Johnson did not disappoint.
      20 minutes in, Bayern Munich was overwhelmed by BD and he asks Warren Barton, “Do you think Bayern is pressing.”
      Barton’s tone of voice in his answer was, “No, you idiot. How can they press when they have no attack at the moment?”
      Then, referring to Wembley he said, “What electricity in this building.” A building?
      When one player banged into another with his shoulder, Johnson thought it was foul. Barton calmly informed him, “You can use your shoulder.”
      Johnson opened the second half by referring to “Legendary Wembley.”
      The new Wembley was opened just six years ago.
      When the score became 1-1, Johnson screamed, “We’ve got a ball game now.”
      Not long after that, Barton said correctly, “Game on.”
      On a play when Schweinsteiger reached out with his foot in front of the goal to score, Johnson said it was a “game of inches.” Schweinsteiger was two feet from the ball.
      Johnson confirms his place as the worst announcer in the history of football.

      • San Franciscan

        May 25, 2013 at 5:43 pm

        Not only that, when the referee awarded the penalty he said “FOUL!” the usual call is PENALTY!

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