HomeEnglandIs the EPL Americanizing the UK or Is the League Anglicizing the USA?Is the EPL Americanizing the UK or Is the League Anglicizing the USA? Guy Robert March 4, 2013 England, Soccer in America, US 38 Comments But, what about you? Am I alone here in my fantasies? Do I just need to increase my medication? Or do we need to raise the cry, “The British are coming!” once again?Pages 1 2 Tweet Pin It About The Author guy robert38 Comments Frill Artist March 4, 2013 There was a typo in your article. It’s football not “soccer”. Reply Guy March 4, 2013 Get over it, Frill. I’ve said I don’t give a rip and neither should you. Reply Guy March 4, 2013 Football, soccer Lorry, truck Who really gives a f#€k Reply Sammy March 5, 2013 I don’t understand why people like you are so sensititive to this football/soccer usage and have to make it such a big issue. Does it really matter whether it’s known as football or soccer? Haven’t you heard of “synonyms” before? If so, wouldn’t you agree that these two words are just synonyms? Unless you are trying to say that there’s something so offensive about the word “soccer” that makes it wrong for all of us to use it.Otherwise, I really don’t get what this hype is about. Reply Paul March 4, 2013 We’re definitely being Americanised, but to be honest, it’s been happening for years. There’s plenty of US imports on TV that my nephews watch every day and get American sayings from the likes of those annoying Disney channel teeny shows. Schools over here even have proms now… that’s still a relatively recent thing but it was totally unheard of a few years ago! I suppose that’s the effect Glee must have had 😉The likes of McDonalds came to the UK in the 70’s so I don’t think you could lump that into the trend. I’d say that was just the norm! Reply Guy March 4, 2013 You are one of those moles, Paul. 😉 Reply Smokey Bacon March 4, 2013 The Brits are coming. The fact the epl is as popular as it is over here is evidence of that. That a yank can genuinely follow an awful team like Stoke is amazing to me but it shows how popular the epl has become. It’s no longer ex-pats only. All of the commentators are Brits and any we all slaughter the tv companies when they try to dumb the coverage down. Now with a major network NBC signed up, we have truly arrived.Simon Cowell, Adele, all these Brit actors playing Americans on tv and in film. Its the way it should be.Meanwhile, my old homeland gets the crappy end of the deal with McDonalds, Randy Lerner, Kroenke and terrible beer! Reply Guy March 4, 2013 The old homeland is definitely on the losing end on the beer thing. I find it unfathomable. Reply Nelson March 4, 2013 There’s plenty of great American beer, its just the only stuff getting marketed and imported over there is the cheap piss. Reply Yankee doodle dandy March 4, 2013 The US has the greatest selection of alcoholic drinks in the world from importing to our very own microbreweries. We get a bad name because the Buds and Coors have the money to advertise. Heck in the US you have a wider range and bigger selection of soccer leagues and games to watch on tv than anywhere on Earth. Reply Guy March 4, 2013 Nelson and Yankee—agree with you wholeheartedly. Here in NC microbreweries, with excellent selections, are exploding. It’s just disconcerting to step into a UK pub and see the guys with the bottles of Bud in their hands when there are eight taps behind them with a fantastic choice of real ales. Aackkkk! ( One negative point on Americanization for those keeping score). 🙁 Reply jtm371 March 4, 2013 Smokey don’t forget the Fenway Group another crappy item going East. Reply Daniel March 5, 2013 FSG has had some shaky moments getting themselves up to speed but overall I would call their stewardship of Liverpool a success. Their moves are starting to gel and the club is being run like a proper business. I would much prefer FSG to Abranovich or Kroenke. Reply IanCransonsKnees March 5, 2013 That proper they’ve run up a near £90m debt already. Reply Why? March 5, 2013 Yes with the help of our American cousins we have become the largest nation in Europe, well fattest any how lol. God bless burger king and McDonalds!! Also every is suing every one now, we don’t have the huge payouts but we have turn into the ‘where there’s blame there’s a claim’ nation. American beer I just don’t get at all the stuff here like Bud is very well marketed but taste like water to me, mind you British larger is the same. It’s gotta be from Germany or Belgium for me. Reply Guy March 5, 2013 I noticed the other day that Beck’s is now brewed in St. Louis. I know it’s to a formula, but is nothing sacred? Besides that, it’s still marked up as an “import”. 🙂 Reply Kris Kjellquist March 5, 2013 LOL at equating “American Beer” with Bud. Come to Asheville, NC or Portland, OR and drink the best beer in the world! Reply Guy March 5, 2013 Asheville is definitely a craft beer drinker’s paradise, but Bud, et al are what most people think of as American beers and their sales figures are massive. Reply Hoosiergunner March 4, 2013 I always enjoy these articles. Being a natural anglophile I’d like to think we’ll all be eating Hob-Nobs, saying “sarky git,” and watching in Inbetweeners, MI-5, and Sherlock here in the colonies in the next couple years, but unfortunately I think the influence is largely going the other way. Hasn’t US viewership even played some role in the rescheduling of games? In my two trips across the pond (about ten years apart), I noticed a substantial difference in just how Americanized England had become. I was not impressed… in fact, it would be nice if the English could teach our youth how the game should be played so our national team and “major league” soccer program could become slightly better than average. Reply CTBlues March 4, 2013 I think would rather the Germans or Spanish teach out kids how to play the game than the English. Reply Dean Stell March 4, 2013 To me, the linguistic link between the US and Britain is so special because we can actually understand each other’s jokes. I mean, when a listen to an EPL game and the commentator says, “Have a go!” I know what he’s talking about.Like a lot of Americans, I have conversational Spanish, which is handy when that is the first language of ~15% of the population AND the native language of the dudes who always pick on me in our soccer league. But, if I heard a Liga MX commentator say, “Tiene tu va!” I wouldn’t have a clue what they’re talking about. So, I can’t enjoy the Mexican or the Spanish games as much as the various British leagues. And, it’s even worse with German or Italian soccer. There I just have translations.Honestly, the USA should be the best thing to happen to the EPL. With the linguistic tie and the fact that the US is the last unconquered land for soccer, the EPL should get TV rights $$$ far in excess of the German, French, Italian, etc. leagues. Use that money to buy the best players from those leagues and teach them some funny British sayings. 🙂 Reply Guy March 4, 2013 Just don’t spit your dummy out of the pram, Dean! 😉 Reply jtm371 March 4, 2013 Guy did the better half keep you away from the tube today no comment on the Villa, City match missed you.might want to check the comments Marc L took a shot at your boys think it was tongue in cheek not sure.i agree the US beer is pi$$ water. Reply Guy March 4, 2013 Watched the match. Nothing to say. Didn’t see Marc L’s comment till now.Being a Stoke fan one gets used to the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. Last year Stoke finished tied with Everton for 10th in the yellow/red card table (60/2) behind such paragons of virtue as QPR (54/9), Sunderland (59/4), Wolves (64/4), Arsenal (64/4), Newcastle (66/2), Wigan (67/3), Blackburn (66/5), Villa (70/2) and Chelsea (74/4). Facts are stubborn things, but useless against perception.This year we have definitely been worse, but I dare say if you subtract N’Zonzi and Whitehead we’d look a whole lot better. 😉 Reply jtm371 March 4, 2013 Guy like everything today style over substance.don’t let facts get in the way of public perception.their was a couple of articles at espn/soccer about Stoke and the poor performance of late one from CA and one from TP. Reply Patrick Starr March 5, 2013 “Like a lot of Americans, I have conversational Spanish”LOLI live in Southern California which might this might be true. but the US in general…dont think so Reply Dean Stell March 5, 2013 Not saying the majority of Americans have conversational Spanish, but I’d bet you have ~10% of the population (or ~30MM) who could get around and basically function if you plopped them into Mexico. They’d be able to find food and water, ask basic directions, pay for stuff, give basic greetings…..etc.That’s all I’m saying….And….it is mostly concentrated in the southern reaches of the country. I’d bet the level of Spanish in Wisconsin is pretty low. Reply Sideways_Steve March 5, 2013 I know I am catching some Brit and as a result, flack here because of it.I say ‘a bit’ too ‘often’, instead ‘some’ as ‘much’. I have instilled in my 4yr old that jaguar has 3 syllables not 2. I have slipped shouting ‘get in’ at a sporting event here, and have referred to an attractive girl as ‘fit’. I am even learning to differentiate accents and regions of the UK and can pick a Scouse out straightaway.Some I admit is from my other loves of F1 and TopGear. Call it as you please. My Gran would be all smiles but others (including myself at times) wonder. Reply Mark Eltringham March 5, 2013 Call that bacon? Reply Guy March 5, 2013 Absolutely not, Mark! 🙂I just didn’t want to use regular American bacon for the job, so grabbed this Canadian. Believe me, if I could have gotten some nice English back bacon I would. Reply Jason March 5, 2013 The EPL has nothing to do with the Americanizing of the UK. If one assumes that Americanization is having lots of MacDonalds, KFC, etc. then how on earth does the EPL, which is not an American product, contribute to this? I’m baffled.As for the EPL Anglicizing the USA, I don’t see evidence to suggest that Americans are flocking to their local pubs to watch EPL games nor are waking up and having an typical English breakfast on Saturdays or Sundays. Those that do are mostly expats. Reply Guy March 5, 2013 Title’s not mine, Jason. Take it up with The Gaffer. 😉No argument with your 2nd point. My tongue and pen are almost always planted firmly in cheek. Just noting some personal idiosyncrasies and wondering if anyone else is “infected”. 🙂 Reply rej4sl March 5, 2013 Guy, loved the article. As an exile Stoke person – love oatcakes – would you mind sharing the recipe. As for Anglicizing or Americanizing – we do both live in a bi-national relationship and we do American and British combined. Reply IanCransonsKnees March 5, 2013 See, that’s what I wanted more of after the success of the breakfast article. Forget Guy’s erudite take on international influencing – it’s recipe swaps we want.Arsenal fans eating jellied eels, Newcastle and Sunderland fans hunting down pease pudding, dirty Mancs after Manchester tart, black pudding and eccles cakes, all whilst supping on a Vimto. Villa fans seeking out faggots (the edible type), Norwich fans covering everything with Colmans mustard and Fulham fans ordering skinny lattes whilst sporting the preppiest of attire, okay yah!Forget your dvds of the the history of x,y and z, the way to truly connect with your club and its native followers is to seek out our strange foodstuffs and become fat b@$tards like the Geordies who insist on taking their tops off.I have to say so far Guy’s attempt at Oatcakes is the sincerest gesture of becoming a fan of a particular team. It’s not just about the football – when I’ve had chance to converse with The Gaffer you’ll find out a bit more about what I mean.Has anyone else got the bottle to conjure up some of our ‘bad’ English food and line your stomachs before watching your chosen team this weekend. Guy’s laid down the challenge has anyone else got the balls to take him up on it? Reply Guy March 5, 2013 This is the recipe ICK (below) posted and I used. Watch the liquid quantity. I had to wind up adding quite a bit more flour. You could also probably half the entire recipe. It makes a lot! 🙂http://www.allotment.org.uk/recipes/light-meals-snacks/north-staffordshire-oatcake Reply Guy March 5, 2013 below=above. 😉 Reply Guy March 5, 2013 *sigh*….halve Reply rej4sl March 5, 2013 thanks so much ReplyLeave a Reply Cancel reply Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.