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John Terry Retires from International Soccer With Angry Attack on FA: The Nightly EPL

Less than one day before the start of the FA’s hearing into the Anton Ferdinand saga, John Terry has announced that he’s retiring from international soccer and will no longer play for England. Reading between the lines, Terry is probably making the move now knowing that the FA would have banned him from England duty anyway, so rather than take the punishment, it looks like he’s making a preemptive decision. If that’s true, I don’t blame him from retiring. It’s time for him to hang up his England boots anyway.

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  1. Peter

    September 24, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Interesting to see Ian Wright say the following about John Terry: “When he finishes playing, I think many supporters will look back on Terry’s career and maybe respect him a bit more than they do now…He will be remembered as a great defender for England and Chelsea. And he will always be able to point to a trophy cabinet crammed full of silverware. Equally, though, when Terry gets older and looks back on his eventful career, he will wish he had done some things differently. We all do. And one day, Terry will wish he had not given up on England when he was still one of the team’s key players.”

    Also interesting to see Marcel Desailly argue that “It is the FA who have put him in difficulty, who have not protected him when they should have.”

    Draw your own conclusions about what this suggests about the role of race in all this.

    One shouldn’t expect too much in the way of refined discourse on these pages, but I’m sure the two gentleman (I’m guessing) who refer to Terry as a “racist prick” somewhere above are well qualified to judge people they don’t know regarding events they didn’t witness. Their words alone attest to the high quality of their own character.

    People interested in other perhaps more considered perspectives on what’s really going on here might want to check out Martin Samuel’s piece in the Daily Mail (–Martin-Samuel.html) or Cameron Sharpe in the New Statesmen (

    In essence, they both point out the obvious – the FA is a public relations and marketing organization.

    Samuel observes, “The FA lost the England captain, and from there the England manager, Fabio Capello, in a tournament year over this case. Bernstein clumsily isolated Capello by stripping Terry of the captaincy without prior consultation and if that episode then concluded with the player’s not-guilty verdict from the Chief Magistrate, the chairman might look to have mishandled the situation. A guilty verdict at an FA disciplinary hearing is the last-minute, extra-time winner. See, we were right all along. We might have made a stooge of our manager, we might have set fire to our rulebook, but we got there in the end.”

    Pay special attention to the “set fire to the rulebook” line, which is a reference to, as Samuel points out, “Paragraph 6.8: ‘Where the subject matter of a complaint or matter before the Regulatory Commission has been the subject of previous civil or criminal proceedings, the result of such proceedings and the facts and matters upon which such result is based shall be presumed to be correct and the facts presumed to be true unless it is shown, by clear and convincing evidence, that this is not the case.’”

    Sharpe asks, “In the last 12 months, the FA have allowed Fabio Capello to resign over the farcical way in which Terry was stripped of the captaincy and then enabled his replacement, Roy Hodgson, to publicly suggest that he would prefer it if the former captain of the national team was found not guilty- how is that for degrading the integrity of the organisation’s disciplinary process?”

    According to the Daily Mail, Hodgson is leaving the door open to Terry to rejoin the national team, even if found guilty.

    Apparently not everyone views these matters in quite the same way. But who needs due process anymore when the so very witty banter and ankle deep moralizing is so much more entertaining?

  2. Sacto Blues

    September 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    I’m happy on one note that JT can concentrate on Chelsea and the distractions of a ban or is he going to be called up or isn’t going to be called up won’t happen. With no JT being called up I think this is a opportunity for guys like Chris Smalling and Michael Dawson ( when fit ) to fill that spot for Hodgson.

  3. bucky

    September 24, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Last I checked England had not won anything with Terry. Instead of retiring to extend his club career, he can go out with headlines. Typically self-centered actions from John. Goes along with his normal behavior of only thinking about himself; now he will have more time to shag other teammates’ girlfriends

  4. Pete

    September 24, 2012 at 4:41 am

    I will be sad to see him go, I always thought he played well for England or at least did his best for England which is more than I can say for quite a few players.

    Let’s face it, most football players are pricks, it’s what comes with being young and having lots of money and fame. I’m sure American sports stars are no different in their womanizing antics.

    • bayou

      September 24, 2012 at 9:11 am

      American players aren’t any different. What’s different is the culture at-large. We don’t have (yet) thought police who ban and prosecute people for what they say. In America, you can’t go to jail for being a racist asshole. Players who say asshole things don’t go on trial the way they do in the UK.

      Another difference, American athletes aren’t quite as much tabloid fodder as they are in the UK so if a guy cheats with a teammate’s wife, most of us don’t really care. But when Terry did what he did, it was fist page news on major newspapers, which is significantly different. Our press is too busy chasing drunken starlets and the Real Housewives to worry about athletes.

      So, no. Athletes are just as big as assholes here in America, we just don’t care as much (for the most part.) If you’re talking murder, rape, domestic violence, gambling, steroids, or substance abuse, then we care a bit more.

      • Pete

        September 24, 2012 at 10:31 am

        I don’t think anyone cares here if a player sleeps with team mates ex wife. It’s just gossip for the rags to print and make a big deal of. John Terry wasn’t the first person to sleep with a friends ex wife/girlfriend and he won’t be the last.

        Papers have to fill their pages up with something and a little sports scandal will do.

      • Dust

        September 24, 2012 at 10:57 am

        What?! America doesn’t care… “If you’re talking murder, rape, domestic violence, gambling, steroids, or substance abuse, then we care a bit more.”………sorry but thats Rubbish!

        If you live in a major city like New York then the tabloids are EXACTLY the same with headlines like “jeeter the cheater” or “Arod beds 3”, “Romo cheats on…. Blah blah blah”.. One more example that should also disprove that theory to not be true…hmm hmm… here we go….

        Tiger Woods remember Tiger Woods? Hello? Anyone remember Tiger Woods… That was on all media for months, not just sports media it was everywhere for like 6 months.

        As for criminally prosecuting hate speech, america has done the opposite and institutionalized it with the constitution that values s black man as only 3/5 of a white one. Even to this day hate speech is a major party political platform in America, the entire republican platform is anti gay with numerous attempts to legislate the discrimination…. Hardly leading the fight for equality in the USA are they.

        Criminalization is not just the uk, it’s all of Europe, and most of the civilized world..

        Also just last week a baseball player was banned and fined for writing a gay slur in Spanish in his eye black…. So yes, while anerica doesn’t criminaly prosecute for being abusive towards others it does write about it,

        Your exposure level does depend if you live in a remote area or a major city. America does worship sports stars and because of the money and influence alot of issues are never really addressed by the media.

        • TJNash

          September 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm

          “As for criminally prosecuting hate speech, america has done the opposite and institutionalized it with the constitution that values s black man as only 3/5 of a white one. Even to this day hate speech is a major party political platform in America, the entire republican platform is anti gay with numerous attempts to legislate the discrimination…. Hardly leading the fight for equality in the USA are they.”

          Did your study of the Constitution (which I doubt never actually happened) end with the 1850s? This is the most ill-educated, ludicrous statement I have read in ages.

          My lord, the ignorance is just stunning.

        • Matthew

          September 25, 2012 at 2:31 am

          Dust you are an idiot. What do you know of American history? Based on your response you know very little not very much. Tell me, what is hate speech and who decides what that is going to be? Freedom of speech is one of the hall marks of the American Republic. I pity the UK and Europe; you have speech codes, waste taxpayer’s money on court cases. What all the crap we have in the US are still the freest society in the world. I will defend anyone’s right to say what they want no manner how much I disagree with it. That is what separates us from Europe. Plus, unlike Europe we do a better job integrating our immigrants into our society. I could care less what John Terry did do or didn’t do. Also, Dust do you have a life outside of this blog and re-watching games. Maybe a job a social life, just saying.

          • dust

            September 26, 2012 at 12:44 am

            It looks like the redesign lost my response to you.

            Bitter much? your hypocrisy in insulting me is quite laughable.

            As for my life..I am very fortunate to be very happy and successful enough to do what I want with my time, and while it may appear to you I spend a lot of time on here its really doesn’t take that much time.

            I feel sorry for you, sorry that you feel that what I do with my time bothers you so much. that you have spent time thinking about the time I have to watch my clubs games and that I post on this blog.

        • Alfredo

          September 25, 2012 at 1:26 pm

          Holy crap Dust, learn to read the Constitution properly. Did you graduate high school believing the 3/5 clause was relevant past 1865??

          School has failed you it seems.

          • dust

            September 26, 2012 at 12:24 am

            looks like the site refresh lost my rebuttal… oh well.

            No they don’t teach the US constitution in at school in the UK. I did learn about the Magna Carta however.

            Suffice to say you missed the point which was that literal interpretations of the constitution are not appropriate for this day an age, in-fact they never have been which is why it has amendments in recognition of flaws.

            Freedom of expression was followed by the framers expressing themselves saying that one person of color was worth less than a white man. The fact it was adjusted in an amendment only proves my point that times change and so should law.

            The individual freedoms and liberties of one should not be at the expense of another, not in a true democracy anyway.
            Hate speech, racism is the view of one at the expense of another.

            Workplaces recognize this, if you were making racist remarks at work would you expect to keep your job? should that person you aim those remarks at and victimize not be bothered, should they just grow a thicker skin? of course not. So you are safer from persecution at work than you are when not. whats that about?

            Just like you are not allowed to go up and punch someone in the face without consequence. being racists and engaging in hate speech should have consequence.

            And unfortunately yes the republican run US congress has been trying to legislate language that is prejudice with anti gay rights laws.

            And while the 13, 14 and 15 amendment’s was supposed to ensure equality, it didn’t which is why nearly 100 years after the amendments were added, the civll rights movement was still needed to ensure that people could exercise those rights.

            I have read the constitution and, thought about and discussed it with many people.

            it sounds like you read it and then took it quite literally and missed what the point of it all including what the amendments actually stood for.

            Society changes over time and so does the law.

  5. cmac

    September 24, 2012 at 3:40 am

    You don’t blame him from retiring? Do you blame him for being a racist prick?

  6. Sammy

    September 24, 2012 at 3:15 am

    Arsenal seem to be dominating midfield a lot this season. This could turn out to be their strength, apart from their defence of course, which also deserves plaudit. The fact that they managed to outplay even Manchester City in that area hopefully makes them a force to be reckoned with, whether against lesser teams or more crucially, other big teams.

  7. Dust

    September 24, 2012 at 2:23 am

    Just watched fottage on skysports news of Man U fans chanting “where’s your famous Munich song” during the game, then post game choruses of “it’s never your fault…” And then “murderers, murderers”. This wasn’t 2 or 3 idiots this was hundreds of Man U fans in the away end.

    Absolutely despicable, even tho the game was over for the last 2 songs, the Man Utd fans should be punished some how by the FA. Shameful!

    What the hell is wrong with people.

    • iancransonsknees

      September 24, 2012 at 2:40 am

      I’m no Man Utd fan but add to that the Liverpool fans making aeroplane gestures to spark it. Also the so called Liverpool fans tweeting Mark Halsey saying he should have died of cancer. It seems like one rule for them and one for everyone else.

    • Mufc77

      September 24, 2012 at 8:03 am

      Yes we should be punished for telling the truth about Liverpool Fc.

      John Joe shevley gets a red card and he blames SAF for it, apparently he’s not responsible for his own actions on the pitch.

      Liverpool fans caused the death of 39 italian fans and that’s a fact. It dosnt make it right to sing about it but it still the truth.

      As a spurs fan how do you and fans of other clubs view Liverpools so called victim mentality. Do you think it exists or are utd fans just making it all up? I’m not asking about songs being right or wrong to sing just how you view them in terms of always being the victim.

    • Paul

      September 24, 2012 at 9:30 am

      It’s all ridiculous. It’s not a game of he said it first or whatever but they went out their way to provoke a reaction by asking where the Munich song was. They just got booed in return. From all accounts a solitary Liverpool idiot took the bate at the end of the match and he was rightfully kicked out. They then waited until the ground was virtually empty to start their anti-Liverpool chants during their lock-in. If you wait long enough after the match to see them being taken to Lime Street for the train home, they all walk together with the police surrounding them shouting ‘murderers’ and how they wanna go home because Liverpool is a sh!t hole. Thank f**k they only come here once a year, the odd cup match aside!

    • Frill Artist

      September 25, 2012 at 9:16 pm

      “Boo hoo! Waaaah!” Here comes the scouse “it’s not me, it’s your fault” mind games.

  8. dust

    September 23, 2012 at 11:00 pm on

  9. Frill Artist

    September 23, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Bye bye, you racist prick.

    • Sammy

      September 23, 2012 at 11:54 pm

      You don’t really have evidence that he was racist, do you?

  10. Dust

    September 23, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Terry is responsible for his actions…. Wait let me re-phrase for accuracies sake, Terry should be responsible for his actions… But in true Terry style he chooses to lay the blame at someone else’s feet instead of standing by his choices.

    I didn’t want to sleep with your girlfriend Wayne…she made me do it…. I wasn’t saying Anton was. B**** C*** I was simply repeating back to him what I thought he said…. Honest…. It’s not my fault I can’t defend under AVB it’s his fault,. It’s not my fault everyone on the team isn’t buying in… I’ve just been telling them everyday it sucks and we should all just do what we want…he doesn’t know how to manage ego’s…. (A Brazilian star called Hulk even bought in, how much more ego is there? Oh yeah JT mega ego) I didn’t cause disharmony in the England camp… It was someone else… It was Wayne’s fault…

    Same old same old JT… What a joke… It’s like he is 12 yrs old.. I didn’t do it the cat did… Good riddance… Soon lanyard and cole will follow….hopefully.

  11. Frank

    September 23, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Yeah that must be it. Wow, what a stupid statement. He is still one of the best England defenders and leaders. I don’t think he is great as a person but on the field, he is A class. It is sad this is still being talked about. This is a non story, even if he really said what they claim, it’s nothing he is not racist. He plays on Chelsea, most of the roster are minority’s. Ferdinand bros show how lame they are. One can’t play at a high level, so whines to keep his name out there. Wait he should play for Liverpool aren’t they always a victim? The other Ferdinand do we really need to bring up what a piece of shit he is?

    All these guys are not likable, but let it go and move on.

  12. trickybrkn

    September 23, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    how long before fat frank follows.

  13. BA14

    September 23, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Hodgson told Terry he was a backup at best so he retired instead of sitting on the bench or not being selected at all.

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