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Samir Nasri One, Arsenal Nil, But Round 2 Beckons

In this summer’s transfer window two teams dominated the headlines but for two very different reasons. Manchester City and their high spending was nothing new since the 2008 Abu Dhabi Group takeover, but the Arsenal saga was very new. The departure of Cesc Fabregas to Barcelona had been the worst kept secret in football for quite some time and the only real surprise was that it took most of the summer for him to finally return to the Catalan club. The Samir Nasri events on the other hand had plenty of ups and downs, including City boss Roberto Mancini even claiming that City wasn’t doing enough to bring the French international north to Manchester.

However, the transfer window has been closed for a while and those two names are probably not going to be stealing many headlines in January. Samir Nasri is now officially a member of the Premier League’s top side and although he is still adjusting, it is clear that his reasons for leaving are now beginning to be justified.

When Nasri eventually left the Emirates for the Etihad there was an immediate emergence of upset Arsenal supporters. In fact, before Nasri had been signed by City he was actually booed by Arsenal fans. So why did the young French international decide to leave the comfort of Arsene Wenger’s side? Well in his words it was very simple and clear. He wanted to win trophies and he didn’t think he could do that at Arsenal. Tuesday finally brought Samir back to the Emirates for the first time since his controversial move and his welcome was nothing short of what was to be expected. The Arsenal fans booed him, chanted that he only left for money, and Emmanuel Frimpong made it very clear to Samir what his feelings on the situation was.

But it seems that round one’s winner was Samir Nasri. Despite a post-match bust up with Frimpong where it was clear that Nasri’s frustration was showing, City still walked home with a win. Even though the Carling Cup is probably the least popular tournament that Premier League teams play in, it is still a trophy. A trophy that Arsenal absolutely should have won last year. Losing 2011’s final to Birmingham City was a huge blow to Arsenal and to Wenger. It was also decisive in Nasri’s decision to go to City, it was not just for money by any means.

What is now important is the date of 18 December 2011. Arsenal makes the trip north to the Etihad and round two of Nasri vs Arsenal will commence. This time the stakes are much higher though. Three valuable points in December will be at stake. These three points could be very decisive to where these teams finish in May which makes this game quite appealing. Nasri should now know what to expect from Arsenal, Frimpong, and the AFC supporters.

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  1. Why?

    May 15, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    Nasri, Champion nuff said a white wash for him! linfer I hope Arsenal keep enthralling the fans with that great entertaining business they have you must be so exited to see there owners take so much money lol! I Myself prefer to watch the football mind, oh well each to his own I guess!

    P.S. I think we will hold on to that boss, it’d be a good idea don’t ya think?

  2. linfer

    April 9, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    and dont get me wrong city are a great team they just need to get all the stars working togeather like a new boss would help
    PS i love city in fifa 12 there darn good

  3. linfer

    April 9, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    and what is the score now bob??

  4. dc

    February 7, 2012 at 6:17 am

    No. Mehdi just no.

  5. eo

    February 7, 2012 at 6:14 am

    he was solid player

  6. Why?

    December 18, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    That single loss leaves Arsenal with no chance of winning the league fair enough they didn’t have much chance any how. It also helps towards the possibility of Europa league football for next year as all of Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea look better than Arsenal at the minute. Nasri would only have missed out on anything if he stayed, the writings on the wall for Arsenal. Unless you pay the wages you will fall further and further behind as other clubs will and do. You will pay big wages and fees for 18 year olds who will later move on for the wages and success that Arsenal cannot achieve and you will call them all mercenaries etc. Why? Because you are bitter towards them but in reality you should take this out on your Manager and owners who won’t spend and not the players that don’t wish to stay at a club with no ambition except that is to take the money from the champs league. Again Nasri has done fine for City as good as most maybe he could do better but it is his first year why you have to try and ease the pain of him leavening by saying he’s rubbish or always on the bench etc I don’t know as it just isn’t true.

    • linfer

      April 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm

      haha your stupid arsenal are the greatest club in football today money put in money made back city still have not made back what they spent on players some 500+million pounds oh well maybe in that completely bullsh_t fake sponcership deal that mosliky was from the rabs uncle

  7. Todd

    December 18, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    I’m not really bitter at all about his departure. He was never this superstar the media have made him out to be. He was solid, yes, but his play was fairly straight-forward and uninspired. And as someone mentioned recently, City missing out on CL games hurts a lot more than a single loss. Enjoy the Europa.

  8. Why?

    December 18, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    What a daft thing to say! You just replied, what are you saying? That don’t you exist!!!!!

    They also gave him man of the match, as did many others. I suppose it isn’t your pathetic bitterness towards Nasri that’s in bad taste or totally un-classy. The blind stupidity of some Arsenal fans here is embarrassing. You my friend need to take off the red tinted spectacles and give them a good clean. As I said Nasri 2 Arsenal 0.

  9. Todd

    December 18, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Why continue to talk to yourself in this thread? Imo Nasri today was average. Giving him the MotM was in bad taste too, especially because it was underserved. Classy City, classy.

  10. Why?

    December 18, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    2-0 Nasri!

  11. Why?

    December 8, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Well for a start it looks like it’ll be you team of ‘youngsters’ that aren’t yours and were bought playing in the Europa next year and not City. Why do you keep trying to pat yourself on the back for paying fortunes for teenagers? Is Walcott worth what you paid for him? I and the rest of the country don’t think so, but of course he has had a handful of decent games this season so to you probably think he’s the best thing since sliced bread now!

    ‘As I said that is player development and the Carling Cup is what the gunners use for that.’ Really then why did the following players play against City?
    Łukasz Fabiański 26
    Laurent Koscielny 26
    Sébastien Squillaci 31
    Johan Djourou 24
    Yossi Benayoun 31
    Park Chu-Young 26
    Marouane Chamakh 27
    Thomas Vermaelen 26
    Andrei Arshavin 30
    Not quite the teenagers you’re trying to make out eh? Were these all Arsenal academy players? As I have said before both teams average age was 24 that means the City team was as young as Arsenal’s, are you understanding that now? Why is it you keep trying to tell me they were all young as even to the thickest dumbo can see they Cleary weren’t!

    You got beat easily by Barca in the final, what did you win for that? Nothing but typical Arsenal happy about losing again! Stop celebrating losing that’s your clubs problem you think losing (getting in the 4th or 4rd place) is winning.

    This might upset you but City have already earned at least £25m from the Champs league and the one game more or if you get lucky two will only pay another £2m-£3m per game max, but you keep praying and hoping City will fail and that Van Persie will carry you single handily to a trophy!

    ‘Established’, What are you on about? Arshavin, Arteta, Mertastacker, Santos, Benayoun, Rosický, Chamakh, Sagna, Vermaelen, Gervinho and many more, these weren’t ‘established’ at other clubs? Stop talking out your Arsx

    ‘Nasri is a good player, nobody denies this. What the pressing issue seems to be though is that he made a bad career choice.’ I’ve bookmarked this page; you do it to so we’ll come back at the end of the season to see how bad his career choice was. A, stay at Arsenal the team, manager, owners and it would seem fans are all content to finish 4th, 3rd or 2nd (they call it success!!!). B, Go to City who invests heavily in the team and wants to win everything. What would your choice be genius?
    I tell you now Nasri or any player would give up one or two games more in the Champs league for a trophy, your having a laugh. Here’s more is classic stupidity ‘Nasri may win a trophy by the end of the season’ what are you saying? Make your mind up! So that must mean he made a bad career move then eh? He should have stayed with Arsenal and got a 4th place finish if he was lucky; because that’s real success isn’t it! Words fail me.

    City’s wage can be twenty times there income it doesn’t matter now, you may be a bit slow I don’t know but as I have shown here before take the £135m on players and the £35m that was cleared on player amortisation of the £195m loss. Then add the £40m Etihad deal, £25m Champs league money and £20m new kit deal with Umbro not to mention other money we haven’t been receiving yet. Do you need a calculator for this as your fingers and toes may not be enough. Bit different when you do the math on it init!

    I have a feeling by the end of the season Nasri will be ahead 5 or 6 nil ay the end of the season, but time will tell and you won’t be back here if it does happen!
    Now let it go, Nasri doesn’t play for you any m ore get over it. I know it hurts but at least you still have one top player left and maybe one of your very expensive kids might come good who knows, good luck.

  12. Why?

    December 7, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    As you know there is no point you being past the league stage as you won’t go much further like the last 15 years LOL! As for ‘the carling cup is where teams blood their youngsters’ Why did Arsenal only play one against City then? As that is what they did, every other player was from another club! Another season Arsenal win nothing but the owners cream off the profits that the way it should be apparently, well your welcome to your losing and feeding fat cat owners! Nasri one of the best players tonight and in the Cup semi so sorry it’s still 1-0 lol.

    • DanD

      December 8, 2011 at 1:48 pm

      You’re hilarious mate! Enjoy your Thursday nights!
      First of all, Arsenal may or may not progress far in the champions league – we don’t know and anything can happen in football, like Manchester United not making it past the league stage for example. Arsenal did make the final a few years ago and were wining until about 12 minutes to go.. so they were pretty close before. Anyway, the tv money from champions league football is what really matters and without it City will struggle to meet financial fair play regulations (Andy Green has a piece specifically about that on BBC). Yes, Arsenal buy teenagers from other clubs to develop them and make stars out of them. Whats wrong with that? As I said that is player development and the Carling Cup is what the gunners use for that. Manchester City buy established stars – don’t pretend you’re intellectually-challenged and can’t understand the difference!!! Nasri is a good player, nobody denies this. What the pressing issue seems to be though is that he made a bad career choice. Well, financially he made a great choice – he can fill his pockets with double the money he was getting (despite the fact the wages are more than the revenue at City!). But even you can’t deny that every professional footballer wants to be in the Champions league – and a lot more than the Carling Cup or Europa league.
      You will probably reply again and come up with more nonsense but the truth is you’re not fooling anyone!
      Nasri may win a trophy by the end of the season, maybe he won’t – for now we can’t tell. What we can say though, is he’d probably give up the carling cup for the champions league a hundred times over. Arsenal 2 – Nasri 1

  13. DanD

    December 7, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Surely that’s round 2 now. Arsenal 1- nasri 1. Who wants to play in the Europa league? Arsenal have qualified into the knockout stages every year for 15 years or something and top their group again. Actually that should count for more than the carling cup – the champions league is the pinnacle of professional football, the carling cup is where teams blood their youngsters (that’s if the team in question is into player development and not just snatching established stars where they can find them with the mantra “money talks”). So really that’s arsenal 2 – nasri 1

  14. Why?

    December 3, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    P.S as for the pxssing in the face bit, well what ever floats your boat pal, but not sure you should air it here!

  15. Why?

    December 3, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Who is this Raok guy? Can’t be an Arsenal fan can he? LOL. Thanks for the advise but If you like to punch people big man don’t come here asking for things to be moderated because you don’t like them you feel the need for violence make you look kinda silly. Go and beat someone up as it sounds like that what you like to do any how!

  16. raok

    December 3, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    who the f#%k is this why?
    Be careful mate if you decide to argue in the real world because you are one of those guys who people would like to punch and p#%ss on your face.

  17. Erik

    December 2, 2011 at 12:41 am

    Nasri had one half of a good season out of three at Arsenal, and it was the first half last year. Funny how he says it’s all about trophies and when there was a chance for him to actually win some with Arsenal, he was awful. Good soldier there.

    Spin the assists all you want, Nasri is in no way, shape, or form a critical player for City. Did nothing against Bayern and Napoli (either time, didn’t even start the 2nd game). Started on the bench for the United game. Did nothing and was first to be pulled against Liverpool. But man, was he great against Blackburn! Arsenal fans saw that trend for too long. He is what he is, a talented player to have around, but by no means a talismanic-type player. He’s a nice paint job on a luxury car.

    I don’t really blame him for leaving for a team that doubled his wages, it’s the insistence that it was otherwise coupled with his knack for crapping the bed when the team needed him most that makes Arsenal fans despise him. Merely good (and insecure) players are glory hounds who “just want trophies” and will mercenary wherever to get them, like Hleb. The great players want to be the difference-maker that wins teams that trophy. Nasri had to know that he was not going to be a huge piece of the puzzle at City when he went, which clearly puts him in the first category.

    • Why?

      December 2, 2011 at 6:18 am

      He left for more money and trophies pal why does that upset you so much, I mean he left France for more money didn’t he where did he go? Oh yes Arsenal did he leave France for trophies? Defiantly not!!!

      Nasri Apps 16 goals 2 Assists 6
      Walcott Apps 19 goals 4 Assists 5

      Yet walcott according to you lot is brilliant and Nasri crxp take a look a the shxt you lot are sprouting desperate for him to fail because he left you for what you perceived to be a smaller club, You lot are plain embarrassing. Nasri is doing fine at City in his first season like it or not the more you say he isn’t won’t make it any more true! How did he do against Utd? Your bitterness and arrogance is astounding! Let it go he has left, wowzers!

      • MG

        December 2, 2011 at 11:22 am

        You’re a persistent one hahah.

        • Why?

          December 2, 2011 at 10:47 pm

          Fuxk me, says you!!!! I answer all.

      • MG

        December 2, 2011 at 11:26 am

        There is no one more arrogant in this thread than you. That much is undeniable.

        • Why?

          December 2, 2011 at 10:57 pm

          Arrogant is a word you have used, well done, but you don’t seem to know the meaning of it! So show where this arrogance is, it wasn’t me saying that your club’s ‘mediocre’ was it? Or how about ‘Considering your club’s history (truly relevant only in recent years)’ you are saying ‘we won more than you’ showing your glory hunting arrogant credentials here me thinks. Of course you’ll fail to see it won’t you? Now that is hilarious!

          • MG

            December 3, 2011 at 11:09 am

            Only being honest, I’m afraid. It’s not arrogance.

        • Why?

          December 3, 2011 at 4:42 pm

          What am I saying that is arrogant MG? Nasri not crap? City’s commercial revenue is more than Arsenal’s? Both team ave age was 24? What? Please show me the errors of my ways. You sound like a Utd fan saying the apparently not arrogant all at ‘not arrogant just better’! Come on mate you lot are not that bad don’t try to be!

          • MG

            December 4, 2011 at 12:36 am

            I mentioned what I found arrogant about you in my response where I call your ‘essay’ posts disdainful. I explain it very clearly.

      • raok

        December 3, 2011 at 2:37 pm

        can’t believe this blog is not being moderated.
        how about some sensible debating and not moronic, eh, the gaffer?

        • The Gaffer

          December 3, 2011 at 2:38 pm

          Raok, it’s being moderated.

          The Gaffer

          • raok

            December 3, 2011 at 2:43 pm

            i have seen other blogs banning whenever someone goes mental and starts taking every comment personally, banning the trolls leads to better quality debating i guess.

            • The Gaffer

              December 3, 2011 at 2:50 pm

              It’s subjective. The comments are still based on the topic at large. If it veers off in unchartered territories or gets too aggressive, I’ll step in.

              The Gaffer

    • Why?

      December 3, 2011 at 4:21 pm

      Erik, I haven’t ‘spinned’ the assists they are what they are. He got another today and a goal to go with it. I haven’t said he is our best player or anthing like it! Just he’s doing OK in his fisrt season which is the opposite of what the Narsi haters here are saying! He doing as well if not better as anyone in a similar position at Arsenal. He’s no Silva granted but who is? he’s as good as Johnson without a doubt and at the age of only 24 will only get better. You won’t like it one bit but its a fact!

  18. arsenalbigfan

    December 1, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Nasri is inconsistent even during his time in arsenal. A player’s career success is measured by his playing consistency, effort on pitch and earning the respect of his club’s supporters. Nothing wrong he chose to move to MC for trophy and money. Yet, he is not wise enough to stop developing himself in Arsenal as a more complete player, at least polishing up his skills and consistency so that he can go to other team to win. Only then his career can be blossoming at the way it should be, not necessarily at MC for trophy. I think he knows that, and at this time the money comes into play.. smart people should know what I say.

    What if MC decides to buy in better players than him next season? he will just be throw away/at bench all the time, because he is not developing into a complete player.

    Look at henry, vieira, etc. They developed into complete player by playing consistently in Arsenal, and eventually bring a invincible season for arsenal. or look at toure, fabregas. toure becomes fully developed and brings good solidity for arsenal, and he can leave with grace. fabregas brings in the new formation for arsenal and provide another dimension of joyful performance of arsenal football. remember, the 4-3-3 formation is made for him… and then he can leave without regret.

    Just one question, how much nasri has done to arsenal football and contributed for the club?

    Loyalty is important, no matter you are player or not. arsenal 1, nasri 0.

    • Why?

      December 2, 2011 at 6:06 am

      Mate loyalty is in your head! It’s for fans not players haven’t you noticed that? Nasri isn’t even English and it’s his job not his life why would he be loyal it’s not his family, if you work for ICI does it mean you should be loyal to them?

      • raok

        December 3, 2011 at 2:40 pm

        so i bet you were not angered by tevez’s antics…

        • Why?

          December 3, 2011 at 3:57 pm

          What that got to do with anything here? Who’s this Tevez you speak about? LOL

  19. JC

    December 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I’m not following the logic of this article at all. Nasri has looked like one of the biggest Man City transfer busts, akin with Liverpool overpaying for Carroll. Considering Arsenal replaced Nasri with far better player for far less money. City won in spite of Nasri being on the pitch, not because of it. So I’d call it Arsenal 1, Nasri a big fat 0. Thus far.

    Note: not an Arsenal fan

  20. The Gaffer

    December 1, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Here’s an interesting in-depth article by The Swiss Ramble about Manchester City’s master plan to bring in the profits.

    The Gaffer

    • Why?

      December 2, 2011 at 6:02 am

      That‘s a good site gaffer I have read it before it does indeed show that City’s commercial revenue has risen massively and is indeed more than Arsenals. The things it doesn’t add as it can’t are £35m-£40m new Etihad deal, £25m minimum Champs league money £10m misc and the new soon to be announced Umbro kit deal said to be worth £20m a year. Add to this that this year this such as TV money for City (09/10 £54m) is also now greater than it is for Arsenal (09/10 £85m) all this has been achieved in 3 years. The biggest problem for Arsenal I think is that they have to pay wages more in line with City, Chelsea, Utd and Pool otherwise the only way is down as the top player will continue to leave nor only foe wages but success as the Clubs mentioned I think have more of both. The future for City looks good and the strides the have taken are massive sponsorship in this year 11/12 has grow by £60m alone!

      But you could post a million articles like this as people will still go for the sensationalized media boxxocks, in 2 0r 3 years when they are bringing home the bacon good profits as well as the trophies people will be talking crxp about something else and act as if the never said a thing!

  21. jm

    December 1, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    I’m not quite following the point of this essay. You state a couple obvious facts: Nasri wanted trophies, and Manchester City beat Arsenal. The more interesting claim is that this vindicates Nasri’s decision, but that is not argued for here! To show this claim, you would need to look at whether winning trophies is the most important thing for Nasri’s career, whether his development will be improved by playing with so many good players or whether the crowding in the midfield will hamper it, you need to look at whether the business was worthwhile for Arsenal and for Manchester City, etc. There is an interesting issue here, I’m disappointed that the piece stays at the level of assertion of the obvious!

  22. mids

    December 1, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    this shouldnt be a compliment to the guy as while at AFC he wasnt playing CC games,so his wage way went up but his career is heading the other way,long may it continue u judas

  23. Twizzle

    December 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    How the hell is it one for nasri? Should be -1 because he’s almost about to miss out on champions league, while arsenal have qualified for. Wasn’t that one of his main desires?

  24. mst

    December 1, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    i don’t think it’s 1-0 Nasri. just ask Hleb, winning trophies (Barcelona) doesn’t mean much if you don’t make a significant contribution.

    as for ManCity buying success – it’s hard to begrudge a club that hasn’t had much success (just like Chelsea). all clubs buy their success in one way or another. i’m an Arsenal fan but i hope MC win the title this year (just be sure to lose one game first 🙂 it beats seeing the same clubs buy up all the proven talent all the time.

    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 3:24 pm

      Twizzle he well may go out of the Champions league he may not that’s irrelevant what is relevant is that he is with a team that can win it within his first contract, whereas Arsenal, because of their billionaire owners will not. Why? Because they are surviving by taking or buying very young players to save money which goes where? This is not a recipe for success it may keep them near the top 4 but as for winning I don’t think so, is this what make Arsenal fans happy? Because it doesn‘t make players happy. Just like most the teams outside the top 5 or 6 they have to sell those players when they become good as other clubs can offer bigger wages and more chance of success, surely you do not begrudge them of that? I have nothing against Arsenal or the fans but they are behaving like complete twxts at the moment of course players will leave for more money and a better chance of winning trophies that what happens at all clubs. Arsenal fan’s problem is that they have a lot of football snobs who seem to think they have rights to be at the top and that the are some sort of royalty because they were successful in the past but these are fair weather fans will most probably leave if the shxt hits the fan and you end up mid table for a while. The Premiership has brought about a right bunch of waxkers for all clubs and it’s not nice to see.

      MST please get it out of your head that Nasri will be on the bench all the time or even near most of it you sound like Villa fans about Milner last year, it’s just not the case, Milner has been one of the top players this season! And Nasri has done well. He is second in the premier assist league behind Silva. It is refreshing to see your views are not full of hate and I wish you and Arsenal all the best also but they need to pay the wages or you’ll float about 6th, 5th and 4th for years.

      • DanD

        December 1, 2011 at 5:21 pm

        What you say doesn’t make sense: “he well may go out of the Champions league he may not that’s irrelevant what is relevant is that he is with a team that can win it within his first contract” How can they win it if they’re out? I think City need to match the likes of Napoli before they can claim to win it! City had a good start to the EPL and played senior players to get to the semi-finals of the milk cup.. hardly world beaters on that evidence. You can’t criticise Arsenal for not spending more than they earn – don’t you know it’s the opposite that is frowned upon? That is why UEFA are looking to ban City – its called financial fair play. The days when City can offer better wages than Arsenal are numbered. The gunners have a far bigger revenue stream than the blues and this is what UEFA’s guidelines is about. You have 2 years to get your house in order. In that time Arsenal will have paid off most of their stadium debts – a stadium that holds far more than eastlands and charges more too. It’s not about everyone keeping up with City’s inflated fees and wages – its the other way around! Get that into your head, ok? When UEFA enforce their financial fair play it will be Arsenal at the top again and City in mid-table mediocrity, because Arsenal are sensible with their money and invest in youth whereas City for want of a better word, are screwed!

        • Todd

          December 1, 2011 at 6:33 pm

          Hey, these past quarterly losses of 196€ million are all part of the plan…

          Hell of a plan!!

          • Why?

            December 1, 2011 at 8:14 pm

            Todd you have seen this before as I have shown you, obviously you choose to ignore it but just for you I show you again maybe it will sink in?

            City lost £195m but where? Well they paid out their largest sum yet around £135m on players in two windows they also cleared £35 player amortisation (bought on the drip) fees from the previous owners. Now that come to £170m which means if you take them away for future years the loss with out player sale or purchase would have been £25m which is mostly wages which a lot don‘t count to FFP. Are you still with me?

            Now for the new money coming in that will be which you should be more than aware of: Minimum payment from Champions league is £25m that’s those losses put to break even, Yes? so everything now is profit £40m a year Etihad deal £10m placement, more TV money, new sponsor etc. City are signing a new kit deal with Umbro for £200m over 10 years so that’s another £20m per year now add it together and you get £70m. Of course net year wont be profit because of players bought but it will be well within FFP rules.

            What you don’t seem to understand is this is how business works you invest meaning you then lose for 2-3 years then you start to see a profit. City have a young side which is working well so do not need to buy 4 -5 players in the coming few years and they have no need of changing manager (when player are sold and bought) so things look good. But do work it out yourself look up the deals and how much they are you’ll be amazed. It’s part of a small plan in the terms of what the owners usually deal in. Mansour made something like £3 billion in 6 months on a British bank deal, the City stuff is peanuts but mark my words peanuts that will make good. They arfe well on the way to making big profits.

        • Why?

          December 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm

          Unlike your lot numpty he (Nasri) will have more than one chance to win it, Make sense now? I think if you lot face Napoli your going out!

          ‘Milk cup’ did you see what he did there people? hilarious your so funny, stop it!

          I didn’t criticize them for not spending more than they earn I criticized the fans for talking shit about them spending nothing all they team cost a lest 8 or 9 time more than City‘s till recently!
          Spending in football was never frowned upon you clown clubs would lose year after year before the prem local busness men would give it there all for the club they supported but I guess that’s about the limit of your football knowledge isn’t it the Premiership. Business and making money that’s the right way as only money maters!

          You simply do not have bigger revenue streams than City you silly little man 09/10 your commercial revenue was around £42m where city’s was around £47m the coming year you get annihilated as we add another £95m (Etihad £40m Champs league £25m Misc £10m and Umbro deal £20m). The money from tickets sales bring in is buttons TV, Europe and placement rules, oh and smarty in two years I think you’ll find City ground will be bigger than yours with unfortunately similar prices and half the empty seats from the Emirates sat at the Etihad LOL.

          Your team is already sinking to that mid table position you numpty if RVP gets injured, which let face it is probably gonna happen you’re screwed. It would only take a couple of years away from that teat you’re so used to sucking on to keep you top for those fans who were absent on the TV a few weeks ago but strangely not on your figures to send you further down. If the Pool don’t catch up this year same for them something’s got to give.

          Arsenal get very young players because of the wages and that the owner wants to make money as that’s all they are in football for, of course backwards morons think that’s the right way give that £30m to the fat greedy owners rather than the fans.

          • DanD

            December 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm

            Nasri will have a great chance to win the Europa league. That’s all we can say for sure. City are in the champions league for the first time and likely to be on their way out, yet you reckon that equates to them having a better chance than the Arsenal of winning it? Again, it just doesn’t make sense!
            I don’t know what you’re on about when talking about spending money. Who said Arsenal spend nothing? It’s just they spend within their means, playing fair, you know? It’s what everybody should, and will have to do.
            In terms of revenue and value, just go and look up Forbes and Deloitte ok? You’re pulling out random figures. Overall, Arsenal are a richer club than City (without the oil money of course) and Forbes and Deloitte show that.
            Can’t imagine City charging more for tickets in Manchester – Arsenal is in London, you know?
            Now you’re resorting to mere speculation about injuries and so on. RVP could get injured like everyone else, but the gunners have survived without him before and will do it again.
            Finally you think the Arsenal youth policy is about making money and not developing players? Arsenal do it the hard way, no doubt. It would be easier to just buy the best known players in the world, but isn’t there something more honourable about building something rather than just buying it?

          • Why?

            December 1, 2011 at 9:09 pm

            Arsenal have absolutely no chance of winning the Champions league!! An yet again you talk crap I never said City will this year it’s there first in it, you been there for years and your nearest was a whooping by Barca but I know City will win it well before Arsenal, and so do you, and it kills you doesn’t it LOL.

            ‘playing fair’ is not giving £50m more to a team because they lost! I’m sure I asked before I’ll try again please explain how it is fair to give one team £50m an year team for losing and another £7m and then say they should compete and that it’s ”fair play, you know’ I won’t hold my breath as you can’t and won’t you’ll carry on talking crap!

            Forbes doesn’t show revenues! I have pasted the proof that City already earn more in commercial revenue than Arsenal above, that’s fact! Now we earn a lot more Arsenal that’s surprised you hasn’t it? J

            You don’t have to be a fortune teller to know RVP will get injured do you for fxck sake it happens every year PMSL! Oh and the other years you did all right you had half decent players they have left now i.e. the now hated cos he left Nasri, the semi hated Clichy and the loved cos he dumped you for a much bigger name Fabregas without those you’re garbage with out RVP you’re finished. Who gonna get the goals? Walcott? Gervinho? You know what would happen as well as anyone!

            Arsenal is all about making money you wally that’s why they don’t spend where do you think any profits go? To the children’s home? Your fat greedy owner gobble it up, your club is all about keeping in the champs league, yes loseing is fine are you blind? BUSINESS and MONEY for the owners we should all admire that eh? In your daft head they are being honourable cos you dumb but in reality it’s a business. What hard about taking massive dividends every year?

            P.S stop giving yourself thumbs up its embarrassing LOL

  25. DanD

    December 1, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Nasri was anonymous during the game. The fact his side nicked a goal against the run of play in the last minutes hardly constitutes a moral victory for nasri when he was outplayed by those much younger than him on the opposing team. Mancini had promised to play young players yet his side consisted of dzeko aguero nasri dejong kolarov etc etc. Not exactly 2nd string. At least toure had the honesty to admit the genius of Wenger in matching what was 120mil worth of talent with (barring squillaci and benayoun who are 2nd string) kids with an average age of about 20! Everybody knows nasri left for money – he doubled his wages for gods sake! Toure wasn’t booed because he served arsenal well and didn’t leave unscrupulously like the Frenchman. More should be made of the fact nasri is now due to ply his trade in the Europa league whil arsenal are not only through to the next round but topped their group. Mancini and co reckoned they could win the champions league just a few weeks ago.. The question one must ask, regarding sporting ambition, is whether a top professional footballer would prefer to be in the semi-final of the carling cup or the knockout stages of the champions league? Or ask would a footballer prefer to play week-in week-out or warm the bench? Or how about, be part of a side admired throughout the world for their style and grace or a side that epitomises everything that is wrong with football – so much so it has platini and uefa thinking of ways to curb and punish them! I make that at least arsenal 3 – nasri 0

    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      The avg age was 24 and Mancini never said he would play young players as they are mainly on loan and that was City’s second string that started it’s good init! Pantillimon 2 games in cc only, Toure 2 games in cc only, Hargreaves 2 games cc only, Onouha 2 games cc only, Savic maybe 3 starts all season, Nasri, Johnson, De Jong, Dzeko and Kolarov are by no means our first choices Aguero didn’t start the only player that started in the important Liverpool game who did at Arsenal was Nasri so ya did play our second string like it or not. So no Hart, Silva, Balotelli, Milner, Barry, Lescott, Kompany, Richards, Clichy (thanks by the way top class at peanuts) and last but definitely not least Yaya. Don’t know if you have noticed but City aren’t out yet and if Villarreal think we are not going out without nothing you may look silly ! But one thing I will guarantee is that if you play anybody except for they crap you have up to now you will be out next round! Let’s see what happens if you play Munich, Napoli or even dare I say City, then it’s bye, bye Arsenal that’s just like you being happy to lose in the league and Finnish 4th we didn’t win but we’re over the moon, happy days eh? LMFAO

      • DanD

        December 1, 2011 at 5:09 pm

        Mancini DID say he was going to play young players, perhaps in jest.. Aguero played most of the match – was a first half sub for gods sake! De jong is a first team player as is Kolarov as is Dzeko as is Aguero and Nasri too. Yeah Mancini left out a few players alright and no doubt City have an impressive squad but anyone can throw money around and assemble a bunch of mercenaries, that’s not difficult nor is it to be admired. Which is one of the reasons Arsenal are admired because they make stars – it is also a reason why Platini and UEFA are looking to ban City from Europe. I wouldn’t call Clichy top class – gooners have been slating him long before he left. He never again reached the heights from a few years ago. I wouldn’t call it peanuts either – you forget he had 1 year left on his contract. Besides, his replacement Santos has scored more goals in 8 weeks than Clichy did in 8 years! Clichy has pace but that’s about it. You’re right, City aren’t out yet but barring an absolute miracle they will be – hardly stuff of champions or dare I say a team that thought they could match Barcelona.. that was hilarious by the way! Dortmund, if I can educate you, won the Bundesliga last year, not Bayern, so I wouldn’t call them crap. You mention Napoli – perhaps you forgot Arsenal knocked out Udinese in qualifying for the champions league? Udinese finished 1 place behind Napoli in Serie A last year. Anyway, enjoy the milk cup and Europa league and keep dreaming you can match Barcelona! Also enjoy your short lived success until UEFA come down hard on your oil money – football is the beautiful game (epitomised by teams like Barcelona and Arsenal), not the billionaire game. But yeah, thanks for entertaining us! idiot

        • Why?

          December 1, 2011 at 7:18 pm

          He said school kids which is so obviously in jest as that would be illegal surely as they have no contract, I didn’t notice to many on show for arsenal avg age was 24 for both teams. Aguero wouldn’t have come on till the end if Kolarov wasn’t injured (which the commentator tried to tell us he was angry a being took off, typical!!!). De Jong, Dzeko and Kolarov have all played LESS than the people who have taken their place, now, hmm what does that make them clever clogs? Oh and I love they way Nasri is apparently on our bench all the time until you need to get upset on a blog and now he’s a definite first teamer LOL, make your minds up for fxck sake! I did note Arsenal brought on those other youth players they must have got on a free or nurtured from being babies, Vermaelon, Arshavin and Gervinho. Hilarious.

          Is losing every year and then bigging up the fact that you lost every year something to be to be admired then? Oh sweet Jesus! Who did they make a star Pingpong who the hell is he??? P.S you are not admired! Self admiration is not the same pal!

          Cliché alert ‘City have an impressive squad but anyone can throw money around and assemble a bunch of mercenaries’ Of course Arshavin didn’t turn down club after club till he signed for £5 per hour for the chance to win nothing maybe it was for his admiration of Arsenal! DOH!

          2nd cliché alert ‘it is also a reason why Platini and UEFA are looking to ban City from Europe.’ what the hell are you on about? How are they trying to do that? They are also try to stop club from poaching young players no doubt this is to stop Arsenal?

          We got a World class, and I mean he has been for City at 25 year old for £7m you’re left with who? Santos? You paid the same for a 28 year old playing in Turkey! We buy attackers to score maybe that’s where you’re going wrong! Do me a favour Mr Bitter stop the hatred it’s eating you up!

          A miracle that Villarreal will get a result at home, hardly. Have you been taking drugs? What do you mean by ‘a team that thought they could match Barcelona’ Who said that?

          Dortmund are crap compared to Munich in Europe. Wolfsburg won the league a couple of years ago doesn’t make them great though does it?

          You finished one place behind us didn’t you so we are better than you and you beat Udinese which must mean we are better than Napoli and Napoli are better than you? with your twisted backwards logic!

          Dumb ass do the math we lose next year correct £75m on players is covered by £75m new money (see above) so about £30m losses well within FFP this doesn’t take into account wages of all player before July 2010 are not included and also none of this includes the new £200m 10 year kit deal with Umbro city have brokered the year after it’s profits. We make more than you lot already on the commercial front!!! All your praying and hoping City fail wont help you out! It isn’t gonna happen 😉

          • DanD

            December 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm

            I certainly hit a nerve! calm down mate, its just a blog. I know the truth hurts and all..
            Anyway, the ages of squillaci and benayoun distorted the average and you know that. It was clear that Arsenal treated the milk cup like they always do – to blood the youngsters, because you know, they develop players. Everyone could see there were plenty of youth team players for Arsenal that day: Frimpong, Coquelin, Ignasi, Oxlade-Chamberlain (who was the best player on display I might add), etc etc. There is nothing contradictory about City having first team players who warm the bench, because that’s what they do, buy up everything like its monopoly. You’re right Arsenal had late substitutions who were first team players but it’s not comparable with how City treated the game.
            I’m not sure what you’re getting at, slagging off Frimpong, most pundits would agree he has immense potential so it would seem you’re alone there. And yes, Arsenal are admired, and I’m sure you know that unless you’re completely ignorant. Arshavin cost 15mil – Arsenal’s most expensive purchase, a mere drop in the ocean compared to City extravagance so not much you can say about that.
            I think you’ll find that the financial fair play rules will look to exclude teams who overspend, fact. And UEFA are particularly scrutinising certain dodgy sponsorship deals with City, fact.
            Santos is a brasilian international – what is wrong with Turkey? Plenty of good players have played there. You won’t convince anyone Clichy is world class, but thats ok keep on believing that.
            Whatever the permutations, it will be a miracle if City stay in the champions league but we’ll see. Who said City could match Barcelona you ask? Roberto Mancini, but then again I wouldn’t expect you to know too much about football as is evident in your ramblings. Dortmund are crap in Europe you say? I think most people would now conclude Manchester City are crap in Europe, so I don’t know what your point is..
            I’m not sure what you’re on about comparing Udinese and Napoli etc. I was merely replying to your claim that Arsenal would struggle against Napoli in Europe.. unlikely because unlike City, Arsenal usually fair quite well in Europe.
            Again, I don’t want to repeat myself, but everybody knows Platini & co are looking into City’s 100million “commercial deals”. Look up Forbes and you will see Arsenals are ranked 3rd richest, City 15th. Or look up Deloitte, Arsenal are ranked 5th, City 11th. Need I say more?
            I never said City would fail.. They will just be brought in line to play fair. That is all everybody wants. After all, what is wrong with being fair?
            So go away now, do some homework and come back when you know something about football.
            Good boy

          • Why?

            December 1, 2011 at 9:53 pm

            You haven’t hit a nerve I’m laughing so hard the wife had to turn the TV up you have been wrong about 90% of what you wrote and live in a dream world when it come to football. My god I cover the same drivel over and over. Deloitte or Forbes do not tell you any thing about revenues if they did you would know Arsenal are less that city’s u pillock bet your looking through Wikipedia aren’t you LOL. What are you on about richest? you mean values right, you been getting £50m a year more than us for years what do you expect? You revenues are now less not the value which is on it’s way down they are two diferent things. So yes you need say more as you’re wrong idiot!


            this shows the top teams Commercial revenues for 09/10 and it isn’t wikipedia! Try reading something that’s not shite or said by a ‘pundit’ you might learn something LOL

            Pundits? Pingpong? I use my own eyes he looks OK Cleary he has attitude problems and not as good as Savic and wasn’t on the night. He is merely months older but you wouldn’t know about that would you, cos the pundits never told you? I though that Ox guy much looked better then Pingpong who didn’t do much at all but you lot seem to think he did? but then again he did cost more than twice as much as Savic at £15m.

            Santos is a Brazil international? And what so was Jo didn’t stop him being crap! What’s wrong with playing in Turkey? Yeah that’s where a lot of the best players go init LOL!

            City have been in Europe once and are still there you bunch of pratts have been trying year in year out and get put out every year! That’s not crap is it? Hahaha Muppet!
            Try to understand 2nd, 3rd and 4th is losing this is not success do you get that? PMSL!
            Blah, Napoli blah, Udinese blah, blah you were merely talking crap matey! Arsenal fair well in Europe? You get put out every year! My god you lot have been losing that long you think you’re successful in Europe by losing!

            Stop believing the media as NOBODY’S looking into City’s £400m deal not £100m that’s £400m just as they wont with the £200m Umbro one as they would be wasting time and money. By the way what was your stadium name right price? Or how much are you kit manufactures giving you I’ tell you half what City are getting .

            I’ll beat you’re a plastic who never been near Islington aren’t you a glory hunter who picked the wrong team lol FFP will not affect city and when it doesn’t you will free sad not stupid cos you’re already there!

            You didn’t say City would fail that’s the first thing you have got right, well done you. You merely hope and pray for it and why? Jealousy and bitterness there isn’t another reason!

  26. Jack Tomczuk

    December 1, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Nasri did nothing in the match though. He didn’t play well and was ready to be taken out in the 30th minute. I think the crowd got to him a bit. As far as the Frimpong scuffle, I like to see that kind of fight from Arsenal.

    As an Arsenal supporter, I’m now quite happy he’s gone. Nasri seems to be a dressing room cancer, and Mancini may find that out if he doesn’t start giving him more playing time. Also, Gervinho looks to be a more natural winger anyway.

    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      Let me get this straight, because the liner held up the wrong number Nasri was ready to come off and the crowd got to him? For god’s sake people look at what your saying it’s so full of hate it is twisting you! If Nasri is like dressing room cancer why have Arsenal struggled and City not? He left get over it the only problem is that in Arsenal fans eye he didn’t go to Barca or Milan as that would be fine, the problem is he went to ickle City LOL.

  27. Bucky

    December 1, 2011 at 11:38 am

    And what did Nasri do all match long? Nothing. he was intimidated by the crowd and by Frimpong. He wanted to come off after 30 minutes. Nasri will be on loan to Spurs next season.

    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 1:16 pm

      What did Nasri do? He played for the winning team! Shouldn’t the question be what did pingpong and Arsenal do? The answer being lose! LOL

      • AM

        December 1, 2011 at 3:57 pm

        Gee… I guess 25 million pounds doesn’t go as far as it used to 😉

      • MG

        December 2, 2011 at 11:20 am

        I remember you in an earlier thread. You weren’t such a d**k, then. What happened to you haha? Did it finally hit you that City’s plan to buy the title is going smoothly? Then again, I’d be as happy and arrogant as you are if my mediocre club finally has what it takes to become relevant.

        • Why?

          December 2, 2011 at 10:45 pm

          ‘I’d be as happy and arrogant as you are if my mediocre club finally has what it takes to become relevant.’

          You are thick as the preverbal pig shxt? You type this and talk about history meaning trophy wins and have the nerve to call me arrogant, try taking you red tinted specks of and re read the post anything I have to say about Arsenal is retaliation and factual.

          • MG

            December 3, 2011 at 10:59 am

            Again, what happened to you? You were a pretty chill and respectable guy in the ‘soccer or football?’ thread. You responded to me cordially and even responded respectfully to my admittedly over-aggressive posts.

            And let’s be honest, history = trophies. That’s what people mean when they say history, 100% of the time. I don’t even hate City as much as you clearly hate Arsenal (don’t exactly know why…) but I was just being honest. I’d think a true City fan, as I’m assuming you are, wouldn’t boast when you should know your club’s recent history (meaning after 1976) is relatively trophy-less and lacks significant success. The monetary boost the club has received in recent years is the result of the arrogance some City fans can display. I’m nowhere near arrogant because I’m not the one bitterly writing essay-esque responses and attacks on fellow EPLTalk readers.

            Have a good one.

          • MG

            December 3, 2011 at 11:14 am

            For the record, everything I’ve said about City is retaliation and factual too, man.. No disrespect but it’s the truth. That post was unnecessary and it was a blatant attack since I thought you were being outright whiny and bitter in your response to some people in this thread, but I know see that you were simply telling it the way you see it. My apologies.

          • Why?

            December 3, 2011 at 3:53 pm

            MG History most certainly does not = trophies, it never did. If that is the case very, very few have any which you should know is utter bollxcks! History = things like what happened with City v a German national 11 in 1937 etc.. I’ll leave you to try and find out what. History is held by all clubs some you may call small but they have a great history never the less and even though it may upset you more in a lot of cases than your or my club even though they don’t have to many trophies!

            People wanna give it out they should learn to except it when it comes back however hard it flies back at them.

          • MG

            December 4, 2011 at 12:41 am

            Again, history almost ALWAYS and exclusively = trophies. Of course they included significant wins or streaks or one of a kind players and matches, but it means trophies most of the time. No denying that.


        • Why?

          December 4, 2011 at 5:11 pm

          Teams like Stoke, Nott’s County etc.. No history then eh? You think history=trophies because that’s what people told you and what a lot of fans from certain clubs seem to want and think it to be that. A little bit more of your arrogance showing and definitely ignorance! You are obviously quite a superficial fan who follows a team for what the have won and not who they are to him and that‘s fair enough but please don‘t try and tell me that a tin pot is history as it is not. Superficial fans are not interested in real history, so they instead call winning trophies history, all that maters to them is the winning of trophies which you call history and is probably why you follow them. That’s not me and NEVER will be.

          Each time my club play a team I look at their history. You should do it yourself you may find some sort of appreciation for other teams and their fans that way, rather than what they won as this is controlled by what they have spent mostly and always was. I mention 1937 in regards City’s history this happened just before World War 2 when City were invited to play a German national team as they were the English league winners of that year. The game was to be played in the same stadium that Jesse Owens won his famous gold’s a few months earlier at the Berlin Olympics. The great Zeppelin Hindenburg had just burst into flames days before the match which was counted as one of the Worlds most high profile disasters, the Germans wanted to regain some face by showing that they were superior to City and put out a national eleven, they did go on to win but by one solitary goal in a close fought game an uncharacteristic mistake by City goal keeping legend Frank Swift being the difference, unfortunately he was later to die in the Munich air disaster of 1958. Before the game City were expected to do a Nazi salute for Adolf Hitler and a waiting German nation but the City Captain at the time and the rest of the team refused point blank to do this to the shock of the whole German Nation, only eleven hands were raised in salute that day not a Englishman’s was to be seen. The next year the England team played the Germans in the same Olympic stadium, they sadly did go on to the Nazi salute though. I think this is real history and something to be very proud of and I am. In my opinion more so than winning the league that year that incident fills me with pride and there are many more. I feel many fans like yourself do not know of the real history’s of their own clubs never mind others which maybe their family’s have supported in the past for generations, this is a shame because if they did there may be a lot less people wearing UTD, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool shirts a hundred (in the UK doesn’t count in the US) miles away from these teams in the name of success and then calling it history as it just isn’t. It makes up the smallest part possible.

          There is a denying it because I clearly am! So if as you say ‘history almost ALWAYS and exclusively = trophies.’ What do you call the above? What would you call the Superga air disaster? The Munich air disaster? The Revie plan etc? No trophies involved in these. If you don’t now about these things (you will about Munich) look them up they’re part of football’s real history!

          You don’t like my ‘essay’ posts and find them ‘disdainful’ but seem fine with your Arsenal pal’s and DanD attacks, Hmmm. Here are three statements that you come nearest to giving a reason I‘m arrogant

          ‘it finally hit you that City’s plan to buy the title is going smoothly?’
          This is what you have said not me. I would be happy to finish second this year as would every City fan I know! So this is you saying what you would like to think I’m thinking, but it is totally WRONG, but please feel free to show where I said anything remotely like this!

          ‘The monetary boost the club has received in recent years is the result of the arrogance some City fans can display.’ Again this is nothing that has been said here and is YOUR thoughts not anything anybody has said. So no arrogance here! I think City will win the CL before Arsenal but that’s to do with Arsenal’s owners who seem happy to just get in it with no intention of investment to push them even near to winning it.

          ‘There is no one more arrogant in this thread than you. That much is undeniable.’ Yeah well done you spoke words but fail to show any arrogance!

          Every one of these is an opinion and doesn’t show my so called ‘arrogance’ any where. But now let’s have a look at yours, not that you write much but there is clear arrogance in the little you have!

          ‘Again, history almost ALWAYS and exclusively = trophies.’ Translation : Arsenal have trophies so we have history those that don‘t are history less??? Arrogance amongst other things!

          ‘I’d be as happy and arrogant as you are if my mediocre club finally has what it takes to become relevant’ My clubs better than yours as yours is mediocre, that‘s clearly how you see it. Arrogance.

          ‘Considering your club’s history (truly relevant only in recent years)’ Don’t need to say anything else here! Arrogance!

          Hope you enjoy the ‘essay’ if not who cares.

          • MG

            December 5, 2011 at 12:02 am

            It’s utterly unnecessary to write such a ridiculously overwrought response, which I do NOT have the time to read (iI skimmed it and spotted the word ‘Nazi’.. christ..) You don’t know me and I can assure you, I am FAR from superficial. I love my club for their successes and for their history OUTSIDE of trophies. And I UNDERSTAND that history isn’t JUST trophies, but that IS exactly what it means generally speaking. EVERY team has history YOUR sense of the word, that’s why ‘HISTORY’ mainly means TROPHIES, as a differential.

            It’s not my mission to badmouth you, even though I did in that earlier post, the ‘blatant attack’ I referred to. It was a response to your overall attitude in your response to other commenters. As I said earlier, there’s no point in arguing. Enjoy your City and I’ll enjoy my Gunners, til we die.


          • MG

            December 5, 2011 at 12:27 am

            And about all the ‘arrogance’ that you point out was in my response where I purposely talked sh*t to you because I felt you were being belittling to the other commenters, which I realize it was mostly just you having your say.

            You’re clearly a decent guy and like me appreciate the ‘history’ of teams, both trophies and literal history haha.

  28. J

    December 1, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Nasri really looked like he was ready to be subbed off at 30 minutes … I’m not sure what that was about, but I’d take all of Arsenal’s 11 that were on the pitch over Nasri these days.

    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 1:14 pm

      You can’t be for real! I’d only swap for RVP! You do know Nasri is at the top of the assist leagues for the prem don’t you. Wow the bitterness and hatred is flooding out!

      • MG

        December 2, 2011 at 11:30 am

        This is hilarious.

        J’s comment was simply stated. He didn’t talk sh*t to you or anything, he just stated his opinion. Your response is purely desperate, a ‘come on, lets fight! f**k you and your club’ comment.

        The only ‘hatred flooding out’ (ALL over this thread, in fact) is yours. Considering your club’s history (truly relevant only in recent years), I’d keep my mouth shut if I were you.

        • Why?

          December 2, 2011 at 10:38 pm

          MG, It takes a certain kind of bitterness to say as J did he would rather have any of the Arsenal 11 than the player they idolised a few months before As that is what he is saying and that’s clear rubbish. It’s only driven by his new found hatred of Nasri. Nowhere did I say ‘come on, lets fight! f**k you and your club’ nothing like it in fact, like your fellow pratts on here you are making things up to suit your argument, with the exception of mst who seems a decent sort. The very first post what from on of your bitter pals says:

          ‘Nasri has been riding the bench more than he thought and was pretty much a non factor against the arsenal kindergarten squad. 1 for Nasri..? Not so much; maybe .001’

          it’s not true at all only the a few at City will even play 80% of the games. It seems as because this isn’t the case at Arsenal you lot seem to be confused as most of your lot play every game and like to think Nasri is doing poorly because of this which he is not! He has played in more games than both Dzeko and Balotelli, Nasri has played in one less game than Aguero are they all doing badly to? All bench warmers? Me telling Arsenal fans this seem make to them angry and they attack, well mate I punch back and hard, It’s your wishful thinking and bitterness toward this player that is the problem I know he doing alright I know you lot don’t want him to, Why? Is it because you don’t like him no more? Is that clouding your judgement? you are not getting what you want so you don’t like it well Tuff Tity! The comments have been poor by Arsenal fans here. They have digs at a team that had more possession and won the game at YOUR ground we won mak no odd that you made the keeper save you lost. The comment above was simply a dig as have been 90% Arsenal fans comments here, hence me saying ‘Wow the bitterness and hatred is flooding out!’ that’s as clear as day to all but those who cannot see! With the exception of mst again.

          You need to learn the difference between history and trophies as the arrogance you show here trying to lord your history but really meaning trophies as you just use the word ‘history’ as it’s a cliché. You won’t know anything about my clubs history as you probably don’t about your own. But when you try and take the piss out of City you don’t seem to realise that they are only beaten by 8 clubs in the whole of the football league who have won more. So you’re implying that the other God knows how many teams in the league are inferior to your team, they have no history because you won more??? Learn the difference between trophies and history as you are clearly showing contempt and arrogance towards these other teams. This is typical of many fans of clubs that seem to see themselves as aristocracy and self-importantness, all delusions of course. These teams seem to attract this kind of glory hunting sado. But I’d be very interested to hear so of any Arsenal history instead of the hatred of Nasri simply because he left.

          I think it’s you who needs to keep his trap shut pal as it’s clear you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

          • MG

            December 3, 2011 at 11:06 am

            Clearly this is a Nasri thread and some Arsenal fans on here (keyword SOME) are bitter about it. That’s not me. I’m ONLY responding to your responses to their bitterness. It comes off like you’re picking a fight instead of intelligently debating and debunking what they’re saying. That’s what turns me off to commenters like you. You’re aggressive nature is unbecoming and utterly disdainful.

            But I can see where you’re coming from, you’re simply sticking up for your club and denouncing SOME (again, keyword) Arsenal fans’ outlook and disposition.

            And if you think Arsenal fans are ‘arrogant’ then United and Chelsea fans are something else altogether.. Especially United fans..

            Cheers man.. No use in arguing, really.

  29. AM

    December 1, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Came across a Nasri quote from a little while ago….. Think it speaks for itself.

    “It is annoying. The work we do is not getting the credit it deserves because we are not winning silverware. It is unfair because I think we have more merit as a club than those who have built their teams with millions of pounds whereas Arsenal have brought in young footballers, who have come here to play a certain kind of football and who have developed.” Nasri on Arsenal’s trophy drought, April 2010.

    • MG

      December 1, 2011 at 11:36 am


    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 11:59 am

      Nasri was sold to Arsenal for £12m a figure that equalled City’s record buy a that time. Did Nasri move to Arsenal for trophies? Because if he did the club he left have won five since 2008 he left. Yet the club he signed for are happy to be losers year after year as long as they bring in the money that their fans seem to hate so much unless they spent it on other teams youth players they can call there own! The club that according to their fans doesn’t spend paid a mint for players they bought Walcott at the age of 16 for £12m, of course City were spending a least 3 times that weren’t they? No actually they spent less than £2m. Lets look at their new youth player (don’t make me laugh) that they brought through the ranks at there academy in Southampton, Oxlade-Chamberlain, oh no they bought him didn’t they. I must have forgot (conveniently like the Arsenal fans do) a snip at £15m and of course he didn’t go for the money did he as Arsenal have a great chance of winning don’t they as they have cleared up over the last 7 years? Of course these are Arsenal’s youth players and they didn’t pay through the nose for them and they don‘t get paid any wages 10 time more than other premier league 16 year olds, DOH!!!!

      • AM

        December 1, 2011 at 12:29 pm

        Interesting thoughts. The fact is that Arsenal cannot compete for the top players due to the wages they demand. It’s not a sustainable policy for our club since we don’t have a sugar daddy to bankroll all of our expenses. Walcott and Chambo are good examples of players who had potential that has been nurtured at Arsenal. See in my opinion a team is about more than winning. It’s about creating a footballing identity. You would find it difficult to argue that City’s identity is about more than just spending money.

        It’s not that City have money… it’s that they have too much money and they are flaunting it like pricks. A perfect example is the banner saying that Van Persie will be a city player…. Classless just like City’s spending 😉

        • Why?

          December 1, 2011 at 1:39 pm

          They can compete they it’s just choose not to as profit is more important to them after all they are a business first You do have a sugar Daddy he’s a multi billionaire who just takes all the profits in dividends, I so jealous!. By the way pal before the take over City couldn’t compete with Arsenal’s wages now this has changed such is life swings and roundabouts it‘s always happen until the bent as fuxk Premier League that is. If Arsenal don’t start competing soon they competitors will no longer be Pool, Chelsea, Utd, City etc but the mid table teams but I’m sure there loyal fans won’t desert them in there droves, snigger! Arsenal bought there team same as City they had ONE of there own youth players playing on Tuesday Pingpong the rest were poached or bought. The only times you have won you spent a fortune.
          The banner is called banter City may or not sign him the club or the fans couldn’t careless if he comes or not as they will only sign good players anyway, so how banter is classless I don’t know all club fans do it maybe that’s why your fans are so quiet at home games in the ‘library‘. They don’t go for the banter? I tell you what classless is going to small European clubs and stealing there young players and then trying to pass them off as your own, my friend your owners wouldn’t know class if it slapped them right in the face! Now go a reel of some more cliché’s like the senseless ‘city are classless‘ 😉

          • AM

            December 1, 2011 at 3:56 pm

            Glad to see you’re sticking around as I always enjoy a good spirited discussion 🙂

            I think you will agree that Arsenal is a more sustainable business than City which relies on the generosity of their owner. We may have ideological differences here as I believe that simply throwing millions at a team is an improper way of building a club. However, I am a bit of an idealist and I can understand why the blue side of Manchester has no issues with this.

            On your second point, it’s true that Arsenal buys most of their players. I’m too lazy to go back to the squad but let us assume you are right. The difference between Arsenal and City purchases is that we don’t buy developed players and that is entirely down to finances. The fact is that barring Chelsea, City and Real Madrid, no one can afford to buy a club’s top tier talent. In the past few years, City have taken top quality talent from Wolfsburg, Athletico Madrid, Valencia, Villa, Everton, Blackburn (Santa Cruz I believe), United and of course Arsenal.

            Now these players moved for the most part just for money although you could make an argument about Nasri. You have to realize that by taking so much effin talent, you will be disliked by everyone. To top it off, a guy like Adebayor has to go out on loan which just frustrates teams who don’t have City’s resources. Think about it man…. who likes the guy constantly showing off how much money he has….. only because he’s got a rich father. Now, you could argue that United, Arsenal and Liverpool have all flexed their financial muscle in the past but that money for the most part has been earned by the club and not thrown at them by an owner

            Now, your second point about Arsenal poaching young players rather than nurturing them is interesting. The fact is that Arsenal cannot just develop the talent within a 100km radius of the Emirates and remain a world class club. The reason we take a Fabregas from Barcelona or a Walcott from Southampton is because our club’s philosophy is one around nurturing talent. Is this fair to a small club like Southampton? Yes and no…. Yes because they realize that this is the next step in a player’s development and no because they lose a great player. Are there similarities between this and buying an Aguero?? Yes, but the giant difference is that these young players are developing their talent at a bigger club while guys like Aguero came primarily because of the money.

            I was happy for City when they started to compete with United because competition is good for the league. However, your owners have just blown through money like it grows on palm trees and that’s pissed off a lot of clubs including Arsenal….

          • Why?

            December 1, 2011 at 6:03 pm

            ‘Now these players moved for the most part just for money although you could make an argument about Nasri.’

            Oh dear, this is it you see you’re brain washed by media stories. You are a top player when some mega rich (nothing the like of has ever been seen before) owner they tells you that with in a few years you will be challenging for the Champs league & the prem in fact for everything and each season they deliver what they said, this of course helps bring in anybody. Now I know it’s hard to drop that dislike of the fact that City and their money is here to stay but you’re gonna have to get used to it. I have a sneaky feeling that City will take more trophies than any other club in the country over the next 2 or 3 years and maybe beyond who knows as UEFA have slammed the door behind us with FFP.

            Your problem seems to stem from the fact that all you know about City is from a bias media. For instance did you know that City’s commercial revenues have well over taken Arsenal’s? In fact we over took them in 09/10 season. These are things the media will not let you know. You get to know only the bullshxt pal! Think about it. i.e we all know City lost £195m million last year right? but in the medias glee in telling you this they didn’t mention that around £135m was spent on players, and that they also paid off player amortisation fees of £35m. Now that lot comes to £170m which means if we didn’t buy anybody we would have lost £25m now here’s the amazing part what we will earn this year, Etihad deal £40m pa, Champs league minimum pay out £25m, around £10m in increased TV, and premier placement money etc. That means a £50m profit! Of course they will buy 1 or 2 player but they will also sell some as the mugs are already starting to queue for that useless Muppet you sold us (Ade) lol. It is predicted that our commercial revenue streams will be close to Utd within the next 3 years, seriously!

            It’s a funny thing is you and your ilk seem to think we are disliked by everyone but you are so wrong only the clubs fans that are at the top feel this way they seem to think they are some sort of aristocracy, of course there are others fuelled by not knowing the full story, rubbish printed by the media that is top 4 loving. But many are happy for City who are living the football dream that before the waxkers at UEFA put and end to they could have had one day them self. They need to protect their bent monopoly, after all what is a hundred year of football compared to their greed?

            Check out this blog by a Utd fan by the way (he is the guy the papers get a lot of this kind of stuff from)


            I sure you’ll agree their is more to City than the haters will have you believe! But of course don’t stop your hatred!

            You talk about earning money you have not! You lose and you still get £50m more per year than 90% of the league please tell me where the ‘earning’ in that is? Although you may think this is fair it has only come about since the start of the prem and it’s bias TV, placement payments etc. how the hell have Arsenal ‘earned’ the money to buy an 19 year old for £15m? they haven’t won a thing for 7 years! They got money for losing! Football was changed and clubs like Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool benefited from that, they hardly ‘earned it’ they took the lopsided payments that were never there before, all the free advertising they could handle to attract more fans, all totally one sided! Remember before the Prem Forest, Everton, Liverpool, Villa, Leeds and Derby all won the title in the previous 20 years, in the 20 after only 4 have and 2 of those wouldn’t have if not for rich benefactors that should tell you something of the fairness and your ‘earning it’ crxp.

            The real fact is Arsenal see players a steel them mostly as they are pre-contract age in Europe the other clubs they stole them from nurtured them from 6 or 7 not 17 or 19!!!! Yes some got money but most would rather keep the highly rated players that in a few years would get more and have elevated there own clubs. You talk about Southampton as if they were nothing and that you have every right to take their players and people here have said City are classless, go figure!
            Agureo came for winning my man as you will see at the end of the season he may also become a legend at City as his father in law was at Napoli and money cannot buy that. Ask yourself would he have signed for that ‘bigger club’ Arsenal? and you know the answer is not on your nelly as he may as well sign for a ‘small club like Southampton’ as he would win as much if not more than at a club that aspires and is happy to Finnish 2nd, 3rd or 4th that surely cannot be called a big club? Your arrogance is astounding!

            The money City have spent is being justified as that’s what it takes to get into the position they are now. What it does show though is exactly how those lopsided payments some received for years have unbalanced football and given the few an unfair advantage that those before the premiership didn’t have! The only clubs that are pissed off with City are those who have had to taste there own medicine for a change, the others on the whole are happy to see them there.

          • Jack Tomczuk

            December 1, 2011 at 11:25 pm

            You seem to disregard the fact that Southampton benefited greatly from the sale of Oxlade-Chamberlain. Lower-league clubs need those large fees to continue to progress. They knew that AOC was going to move at some point, and they decided to cash in on him. We did not “steal” him from Southampton because we paid a large fee, and the transfer money has gone to help the club.

            Check and see how much the loss of AOC hurt Southampton. They are top of the Championship and have the chance to earn back-to-back promotions. Maybe it would have happened without the AOC cash or maybe not. The simple truth is that Southamption didn’t need to sell the 17-year old, but these types of deals do benefit the selling club. In fact, sometimes these kind of transfer fees keep a club afloat finacially.

    • linfer

      April 9, 2012 at 2:20 pm

      hahahah nasi that little bi_ch i dont see him ever reaching to the stars now that he left arsenal oh and he wanted to win trophies well he still wont with city and next summer they will replace him and there will be a nice leather chair with his name on it so he can watch citys new starting 11 that they will buy this summer since they lost the title that was in there hands at dec city will just keep buys arsenals players to try to be the best team in england but man u has that one again and again and again sorry city mabey when you learn to control your players and build some chem hah there is a thought you can challenge for the title love the quote Am “It is annoying. The work we do is not getting the credit it deserves because we are not winning silverware. It is unfair because I think we have more merit as a club than those who have built their teams with millions of pounds whereas Arsenal have brought in young footballers, who have come here to play a certain kind of football and who have developed.” of course money tempted him away not trophies and city didnt win anything this seaseon and spent way too much to not win a thing if you think about the last epl team to do this i think they won the epl twice in two years haha its been 4 now for city and they spent more money than any othe club in 4 years and still have not won the title that is awful

  30. Andyb

    December 1, 2011 at 10:27 am

    It’ll be 1-0 to Nasri if he actually wins the cup, otherwise it’ll be same old story for him, making it far in competitions and failing, like he did at Arsenal, and why he actually left city – according to him, so his move hasn’t been justified yet. (We all know it was the money)

  31. jdoe

    December 1, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Man City 1-0 Arsenal

    Nasri has been riding the bench more than he thought and was pretty much a non factor against the arsenal kindergarten squad. 1 for Nasri..? Not so much; maybe .001

    • Why?

      December 1, 2011 at 11:19 am

      Only 3 or 4 players at City are gonna play 90% of all games and Nasri will have known this when he signed. Your kindergarten squad had a average age of 24.3 City’s was 24.7 not so kindergarten after all! So yes it’s one for Nasri.

      • AM

        December 1, 2011 at 12:36 pm

        I believe Squillaci single handedly raised the average Arsenal age by at least a couple of points 🙂

        • Why?

          December 1, 2011 at 3:33 pm

          Squillaci wasn’t even your oldest player on the night! I think you’ve been calling them young for that long you haven’t even realised they got old! LOL

          • AM

            December 1, 2011 at 3:38 pm

            Was that old “geriatric” Silvestre playing again ? 🙂

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