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Manchester City Line Up Move for Robin van Persie to Replace Tevez

How much of Arsenal’s fall from grace last season and so far this season can be blamed on rivals Manchester City? The shift of power from north London to east Manchester is quite tangible especially when you consider that in recent years Emmanuel Adebayor, Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and Kolo Toure have all exited Emirates for Etihad Stadium.

Now comes the news that Manchester City is pursuing Robin van Persie as a potential signing in the January transfer window. The Dutch striker, who is the one player still left at Arsenal who is in a different class, would be a perfect replacement for Carlos Tevez if and when the Argentine leaves City.

Typically I would brush off transfer rumors like this. But the source comes from The Guardian, who are typically more reliable than other British newspapers. Don’t be surprised if Arsenal comes out tomorrow and dismisses the story, but the fact of the matter remains that van Persie has not signed a renewal to his contract and he has all of the leverage right now to either demand a massive salary increase from Arsenal in the form of a new contract, or an even bigger payday from City.

With Tevez on his way out at City, van Persie would be the final big money buy that Manchester City would need to have a team that could compete with any in the Premier League, and would set them up as a tough team to beat in future Champions League seasons.

For Arsenal, this would be another devastating blow. Van Persie is an Arsenal icon. But so too were Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri. For Arsenal’s sake, I hope van Persie stays at Arsenal, where he can continue to be the top player at the club who is the first name on the team sheet. While City would love to have him on their books, it would be a killer blow for Arsenal to see him leave.

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  1. Keith

    September 30, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Sorry I forgot to finish my conclusion above.

    Even if Man City wasn’t wealthy I can’t see Adebayor, Toure or Clichy still there. They seemed to have run their course with Arsenal like so many other Arsenal veterans. Adebayor especially seems to burn bridges and seems like a player that has to move onto a new team every couple of seasons. If Man City didn’t exist Nasri would probably by playing in front of Cole at Chelsea. He wanted out because Cesc left and he knew Arsenal didn’t have the talent they needed to compete for a title. So the question is without Man City would Cesc be at Arsenal. Clearly the answer is no because Cesc turned down a Man City offer last year. He was only leaving Arsenal for Barcelona and Barcelona isn’t Man City (duh). So Nasri was gone even if Man City didn’t exist because Barcelona do.

  2. Keith

    September 30, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Let’s say Man City wasn’t a wealthy club. Would Toure, Clichy, Adebayor or Nasri still be at Arsenal? If the answer is yes, would that have been enough to keep Cesc?

    Arsenal starting selling “developed” athletes before Man City was bought by a Sheikh. In the previous couple of seasons Arsenal has also unloaded Gallas (Tottenham), Flamini (AC Milan), Hleb (Barcelona haha), Gilberto (Panathinaikos), Reyes (Atletico Madrid), Henry (Barcelona), Diarra (Portsmouth), Muamba (Birmingham City), Pires (Villarreal), Campbell (Portsmouth), Cygan (Villarreal), and Cole (Chelsea). So clearly (as we know) Arsenal have always constantly sold off/released veterans for youth.

    But then we have to ask has Man City’s rise corresponded to a decline in Arsenal. Well since Cole was moved to Chelsea (so recently in my mind) Arsenal have finished 4th (and this is with the modern City), 3rd, 4th, 3rd, and 4th. So they’ve finished 3rd or 4th for five straight years. Considering that Toure and Adebayor were on Arsenal for three of these seasons, Clichy for five, and Nasri for three (he was at Marseille for the first two) no I don’t Man City is responsible for the power shift. If anything Chelsea under Abramovich seems like a more likely culprit, especially since the last year Arsenal won the EPL was the first season Abramovich owned Chelsea (so before he could improve Chelsea). Since then Chelsea has beaten Arsenal every year finishing 1st with Arsenal 2nd, 1st with Arsenal 4th, 2nd with Arsenal 4th, 2nd with Arsenal 3rd, 3rd with Arsenal 4th, 1st with Arsenal 3rd, and 2nd with Arsenal 4th.


  3. Nathan

    September 30, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Van Persie is utterly over-rated. Injury prove, not particularly strong or quick. He has good skill, but without strength or speed it’s often hard to implement. His finishing is great from mid-range. I don’t consider him clinical inside the six-yard box. A lot of that has to do with him being more pusillanimous than most strikers when it comes to heading. And again, he’s not physical enough to dominate aerially. Chamakh has serious ups and can nod in headers until the cows come home. With him Arsenal wouldn’t have to pass the ball into the net like they have been doing so painstakingly for several years now.

    The only resistance my ideas have received here are two lummoxes saying I don’t know anything and should shut up. You two, gentlemen, are apparently too dull to explain why. Don’t be afraid to challenge the status quo despite having such low IQs.

    It’d be a mistake for Man City to get van Persie. But it wouldn’t be a mistake by Arsenal to sell him. Last year on his contract… Man City are the most deep-pocketed team in the world… do the math.

  4. Purdman

    September 30, 2011 at 11:57 am

    City is going to buy Van Persie to replace Tevez as the teams world class striker who will mostly ride the bench? Seems pointless. Just let Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero play striker and be done with it.

  5. Evan

    September 30, 2011 at 7:29 am

    This won’t happen.
    City wouldn’t buy a 28 year old injury prone player.

    • trickybrkn

      September 30, 2011 at 8:00 am

      is that sarcasm?

      did you see the Sun story that had Tevez back to West Ham on loan till the January window opens…

  6. Jack Tomczuk

    September 30, 2011 at 1:06 am

    If Robin will not sign a new contract, he has to go. Considering the prices paid for Torres and Carroll last season, Arsenal could net a big fee if City are desperate. Maybe Arsenal should try a swap for Tevez and cash.

    I, as an Arsenal fan, do not want to endure another long, drawn-out saga. We did it with Cesc, but let’s not do it with RvP. If he wants to leave, get rid of him. If he wants to stay, keep him. It’s that simple. No player is bigger than the club. No player will hold the club hostage.

  7. emdoubleu

    September 30, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Rvp will stay at arsenal. He has some loyalty as long as we show ambition in signing some quality players. In January we will grab another CB another striker and a RB wouldn’t be bad. Rvp would like to play the playmaker role behind the striker as a CF where he plays for Holland. Grabbing his Dutch compatriot Jean klaus hunteelar from shalke would be a perfect fit. A pure striker finishes with both feet and good in the air. Rvp would sit on the pocket dring deeper in mf. Maybe wenger would play more 442. I have noticed that the 433 we play with Rvp in the middle, when he comes in yo mid field walcott makes those diagonal runs through the middle of the pitch. Rvp is top class and a better captain than fabregas.

  8. Tuggie

    September 29, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Noooo! Not my favorite player!

    Well I guess I can’t blame him. When a player with this skill level is suffering because his team is not performing it’s natural he’d want to seek another team. However I’m guessing that since it’s very early into the season it will take a while before he actually decides what he wants in his career.

  9. jm

    September 29, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    I wonder what it takes, even from a reliable source, for this to become a “rumor.” Does someone at Man City have to muse to some reporter: “you know who would be a really good signing for us? Van Persie! We should see if Arsenal are willing to sell.” Then, some reporter acts as if the Nasri situation provides any support whatsoever for the claim that this will actually happen, decides that s/he does not need evidence because it can be published as a “rumor” and so lets it fly.

    Even in the “respectable” rags that publish rumors, it’s all a waste of time.

  10. Thomas

    September 29, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    To be fair, it’s pretty easy to say that Arsenal, a perennial top 4, even top 3 if you will, will be battling with Liverpool and Tottenham for 4th place, has lost its place to City.

    Sure some of the sales made good sense (Ade and Toure, specifically), but there’s still something to be said about a top club (Arsenal), constantly selling key players to a Premier League rival. And in this case, a Premier League rival who is trying to unseat them in the old guard of the Top 4.

    But only the most delusional Arsenal fan will sit here and say that most of the players sold to City wouldn’t be almost automatic first choice players if available to Arsenal. At this point, Toure, Clichy, Nasri, and potentially Adebayor (especially with RVPs injury record) would all almost be automatic inclusions in the squad.

    Saying “we can sell RVP, we have enough depth” has been the same story Arsenal supporters and Wenger apologists have been weaving since the exodus of players year in and year out.

    I personally don’t see it as a coincidence that Arsenal’s barren run directly lines up with Abramovich taking over at Chelsea, and now City entering the fray.

    Surely you can’t say that like for like, Arsenal has gotten better over the last few seasons..

    • Paul Cass

      September 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm

      Well now, for Toure we have Song. Clichy, we’re happy he’s gone. Have fun with him, City. Ade we happily got rid of. So did you, City.
      Nasri was a loss but 22M for 1 yr on contract? We’re not stupid. And the 2nd half of last sesaon, he was no better than average.
      Our issue is NOT the players we have lost to City. It is the players we haven’t bought. We have money. We missed out on key purchases this Summer. If City wants to keep over-paying for our hand-me-downs, then, OK!

  11. rvpfan

    September 29, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Nathan, I guess you just started following premier league and making such absurd comment like Chamakh is better suited than Robin for Arsenal. So I won’t go any further in wasting my time explaining to you.

    Garter, on what basis do you say the balance of power has shifted? Just because city made to champions league after how many years? And just because they won few games in the premier league at the start of the campaign? You should know better. Atleast please wait till City finishes above Arsenal at the end before making hasty judgement giving few players name that I would hesitate to say diminished the quality at Arsenal. I will wait till the end and reserve my judgemnt till then.

    • Qerero

      September 30, 2011 at 12:19 am

      ” Atleast please wait till City finishes above Arsenal at the end before making hasty judgement…”

      Ummm….not sure if serious?

  12. rvpfan

    September 29, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Nathan, I guess you just started following premier league and making such absurd comment like Chamakh is better suited than Robin for Arsenal. So I won’t go any furt

  13. Dizz

    September 29, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    “The shift of power from north London to east Manchester is quite tangible especially when you consider that in recent years Emmanuel Adebayor, Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and Kolo Toure have all exited Emirates for Etihad Stadium.” That’s not really much of a shift of power. Adebayor was a bum, Clichy was old, Toure fought with William Gallas, and Nasri was sold off to the highest bidder. City’s biggest moves have been signing Tevez, Aguero, Silva, and Balotelli (although the Nasri move obviously helped them out a lot up front as he’s entering his prime). Arsenal was not hurt by City’s moves aside from the Nasri transfer nearly as much as they have been from constant injuries, Wenger’s insistence that his back line is good enough for one of the Premiership’s presumably top teams, and the board’s lack of willingness to allow Wenger to spend lavishly.

    All that aside, of course this rumor’s going to come out. One of the unique parts of the transfer/signing system within European soccer is that rumors like this will always come out. If the Manchester City administration weren’t looking for solutions such as RVP they wouldn’t be doing their job. Does that mean anything is going to come of it? Of course not. You of all people should understand that transfer rumors are often just that – rumors, often without much truth to them. The headline for your article is misleading if you actually read the Guardian article (whose headline is also fairly misleading) – it simply states that the idea of making a move for him has been “discussed”. Like I said, if they weren’t considering him, then would they be doing their jobs? Just because there have been discussions doesn’t mean anything will happen, though. Arsenal hardly has anything to dismiss either, as, once again, this is just DISCUSSION. Not an actual offer from City.

    Also, Nasri was hardly an Arsenal icon. He played three seasons there and his only fantastic one was last season.

    • Why?

      September 30, 2011 at 6:50 am

      Not that I think there is a chance City are currently after signing RVP but when somebody write such unfactual replies I feel I should myself reply.

      1, ‘Adebayor was a bum.’ Why did Arsenal fans get so upset and have a go at him every time they played City then (and I’m sure the same will happen with Spurs) if he is a bum then?

      2, ‘Clichy was old.’ Clichy was 25 years old when signed he has just turned 26,that’s not even near old!!

      3, ‘Toure fought with William Gallas’ Gallas was involved in another 33 games for Arsenal then got rid of! Wouldn’t it have been better to keep Toure?

      4. ‘Nasri was sold off to the highest bidder’ Arsenal could not keep hold of one of there stars not sold off they did there utmost to keep him!

    • Keith

      September 30, 2011 at 5:34 pm

      1) The author did say it was a rumor and he’d take it at face value.

      2) Everything you said in the first paragraph was wrong except the line about Man City signing Tevez, Aguero and Silva. No way does Balotelli rate above Nasri. Aslo, Adebayor scored 46 goals in 105 matches for Arsenal. They could surely use his help this year. Clichy isn’t old and while he is overrated Man City paid nothing for him. He’s also an improvement over Santos/Gibbs. Toure is a very good EPL CB (top 10) and would clearly be Arsenal’s best defensive player. Considering this is Arsenal’s Achilles’ heal his value for at Arsenal would be even greater than it is at Man City. Nasri was sold to the highest bidder but Arsenal got what 60 cents on the dollar for him and Fabregas? £34M for Cesc and £25M for Nasri comes to £59M. Considering that Modric could have gone for £40M alone and Nasri and Cesc are both better Arsenal didn’t get close to a fair price. They easily could have sold Cesc for £45M last year or early this off-season (before Barcelona spent all their money on Sanchez) and Nasri could easily have gone for £10M more. I would think that out of a possible £80M getting £59M seems like a pretty bad deal.

  14. jonathan

    September 29, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    the thing about RvP opposed to fabregas and especially nasri, it’s easy to see how much robin loves this club. If we show some ambition in the january market, he’ll consider staying. it would be a real shame to watch him go, it’s been a tough year for arsenal and fans like myself. keep the faith you goons. COYG!

    • Keith

      September 30, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      So are you saying Fabregas didn’t love Arsenal? That’s crazy. I’ll give you Nasri (who I think liked Arsenal but wasn’t overly attached to the team) bu Cesc? He clearly loved playing for Arsenal and being their captain. He just liked one team more but that doesn’t mean he didn’t love Arsenal.

  15. Nathan

    September 29, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Arsenal should sell him. Chamakh is a better style for their system. The Gunners have wide and attacking midfield play out the wazoo. They need someone who can finish crosses and has heading ability. Van Persie is basically just another attacking midfielder of which they have many. I imagine over a couple years Wenger could put a lot of the new cash this season to good use. And let’s be honest it’s good business.

    • Efrain

      September 30, 2011 at 9:29 am

      I have to disagree with “Chamakh is a better style for their system.” Chamakh has been a big disappointment. Often times he seems lazy and unmotivated and when he does get the scoring opportunity, he has many close calls but no goals. In all fairness, I did not care for VP too much until I started to see signs of improvement last season and now this season. I think he is now coming into his “zone” and I think he will get much better (assuming he has the support from the midfield) so losing VP in January just as he is really getting better would be a blow.

    • Paul Cass

      September 30, 2011 at 12:40 pm

      Nathan, do you know anything about Arsenal? I don’t think so.
      Please talk about teams that you know something about.

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