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Brazil’s Future Destroys USA In The Present

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What a fantastic crowd at the New Meadowlands Stadium as over 77,000 came to see the US National Team take on a young and hungry side as Brazil is looking to get back to the flair and fun from many sides that have worn those lemon shirts in the past. Tonight we see the start of the Mano Menezes era and I have to say that Brazil is back in business.

After a shaky first fifteen minutes for this young side, they settled down and went to business. It would be a great power header from Neymar who wasted no time in scoring the first goal of the match when he received a fantastic cross from Andre Santos. All Tim Howard could do is stare at the ball and watch it go into the net. Jonathan Bornstein had no idea Neymar was behind him when the shot was taken.

Of course if you knew about Alexandre Pato he has been documented very well if you watch the Serie A on Fox Soccer Channel as he plays in Italy for A.C. Milan and occasionally David Beckham’s Teammate when Becks comes over for his loan spell.

You knew how special he is when he scores some pretty good goals & he tried to get one in the 32nd minute and when Pato couldn’t get a foot on the ball, he intentionally knocked down Tim Howard and tried to claim the goal his own. But the far side assistant raised his flag for the foul and the goal was wiped out. But Pato did get his tally in first half stoppage time as he was fed a great ball, danced around Howard and scored.

Then of course the entire second half was all Brazil. Making fantastic runs, setting up plenty of chances and showing everyone why they are always developing fantastic players. But the two things that were stopping them was second half substitute Brad Guzan and the woodwork as they nailed the posts three times. Once again it goes to show you that no matter who is on the roster for Brazil, they are always ready to play for their country.

When Dunga made his World Cup Roster many Brazilians were very upset that Neymar and Alexandre Pato were not included and after what we saw from them in this match, once again Brazil knows who their next talented players are and they know when to unleash them on the world.

What was the good points from Bob Bradley’s side? Very simply it was the first fifthteen minutes of the match as they should’ve been awarded a penalty in the third minute from Silviu Petrescu. Landon Donovan got a fantastic ball from Edson Buddle in the area and when he got shoved down, Donovan refused to flop and unfortunately his fair play wasn’t rewarded.

There was some chippy play going back and forth between the two sides, but once Neymar converted his goal everything fell apart for the boys. Once again the midfielders to the defenders got out worked and gave too much space to this up and coming bunch of players that will be world class.

Is this officially the final match for Bob Bradley for the US National Team? Well once again US Soccer keeps dragging their heels when they want to bring in someone else and at the moment everything looks to be pointing at Jurgen Klinsman. If US Soccer wants to fix a mistake that they made, then they should’ve made the switch right away after the World Cup. If a mistake wasn’t made, then keep Bradley right where he is.

All I ask from US Soccer President Sunil Gulati is to make up your mind and stop wasting our time. There should be no reason to make this decision any harder than it is. Either Bob is in or out; it’s not that hard to do. It’s time to officially turn the page and get ready for 2014 in Brazil.

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  1. short passes

    August 13, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    For those who deliberately or ignorantly downplay Klinsmann’s accomplishment in the 2006 WC please read the following from a 7/12/06 BBC article:

    Klinsmann added: “The only sensible option has been to ask Joachim to lead them further. I am very glad that he has taken up this challenge.
    “I have always said that he Loew was much more than an assistant trainer. He was always a firm partner. My role was perhaps that of a supervisor.

    “I did not manage to reach all of the players last night. I will call them over the next few days to thank every one to thank them for this incredible experience.”

    Klinsmann had been urged to continue as coach after steering Germany to third place in the recent World Cup.

    All 23 players of the German World Cup squad, 93% of the public, according to opinion polls, and even some of his harshest critics have all said they wanted Klinsmann to continue.

    The former Germany striker had been heavily criticised for his decision to remain based in America while in charge of the national side – but that was not the only problem he faced.

    He had a public fall-out with Borussia Dortmund defender Christian Worns and a string of poor results in friendlies at the start of 2006 led to calls for him to resign before the World Cup began.

    But all that has been forgotten after his team’s stylish displays on their way to the semi-finals, where they lost to eventual champions Italy.
    German football journalist Gunter Schwort told BBC Radio Five Live: “Jurgen was pretty much everybody’s favourite person during the last few weeks.
    He had a great tournament and he was a great coach. He has shown everyone that his concept of football was the right thing to do.
    “But what nobody wants to remember right now is that he had major problems trying to get across his new and scientific ways of reforming German football.
    “And now that he has gone, everybody is saying ‘what are we going to do now?'”
    What really srruck me about this article was the credit that Klinsmann gave to Loew. That is exactly what US Soccer needs —someone to set the tone and style of play and manage the people doing the XXX’s and OOO’s.

    • Bolacuadrada

      August 13, 2010 at 7:10 pm

      Did you pay attention to the Klinsmann coaching career. I am a only a fan and I have the same number of titles he has as a coach. He failed with Bayern Munich. He did not make the finals in Confederations cup 2005 and in World Cup 2006 at home. Not only that, He made it to the WC semi-finals mainly because the corrupts of FIFA maneuvered to seed then with very easy competition in the way to the Final (Costa Rica, Ecuador, Poland, Sweden, Argentina). Of course Argentina is a power but the game was officialy a draw. Penalty kiks decided the team to move on. I do not want people to think he is a bad coach. I just think that he is overrated. As a US fan, I would be happy if he comes here and does a great job. I just think there are other options to consider.

      • short passes

        August 14, 2010 at 12:00 am

        B — I have no problem with you thinking he’s overrated but the arguments you have used don’t buttress your position. Klinsmann’s so-called failure at Bayern has been much overstated and the explanations have appeared on this site. The short story is that Klinsmann tried to remake Bayern along the lines of the national team, much more attacking and the upper management didn’t like it (they also didn’t like him bringing in Donovan and sticking with him). After K was gone Bayern went out and bought 6 new players then a month later paid for Arjen Robben. Klinsmann had only been there a year so he couldn’t have depleted there team that much. It was basically an admission that Bayern didn’t have the horses to win with or without Klinsmann. If Klinsmann is brought in– still a long shot because he would overwhelm the bureaucrats at US Soccer— I would see him bringing in a strong XXX’s and OOO’s like he did with Loew. Klinsman would be the face of US Soccer and he would surely shake up the coaching establishment which needs it badly.

  2. Bolacuadrada

    August 12, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Stop bashing Bob Bradley. He did a better job than Capello in the world cup and Vicente del Bosque in Confederations cup. What has Klinsmann done to deserve that job. He could not even win the world cup at home with all that German talent in 2006. Why not Lavolpe, Erickson or Pelipao?

    • SSReporters

      August 13, 2010 at 2:08 pm

      Bob Bradley’s team led for 204 seconds in the World Cup.

      That’s all you need to know.

  3. nady

    August 12, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Let’s finally get rid of Boob Bradle and hire Jurgen Klinsmann.

  4. Rafael

    August 11, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    We need Jurgen Klinsmann right now! I couldn’t stand Bradley for the last two years and he proved the critics right by messing up the WC. We should have been in the semis if the right starting XI and subs had been used.

    It’s time for a new formation, tactics, and offensive flair that only someone from the outside like Kilnsmann can bring, because the USSF is braindead.

    The U.S. needs its own youth movement sprinkled with some veterans. As for the future we need a completely revamped defense with Omar leading the way. Bocanegra should be a bench player and its about time for him to be stripped of being captain and finally give it to a mature Donavan who will be our leader and vet in 2014.

    If Guzan can find a place to start ad play every weekend he could seriously challenge Howard for the top GK spot.

    We need completely better mid play and I hope we can develop some players there with new tactics and offense. Michael Bradley needs a defined role. He has been a bad fit in his dad’s formation for a while now.

    We need better talent at the striker position. Buddle and Gomez never get a chance to show what they got because they never play enough minutes and when they do, they have to come back and play like mids because we have no midfield to ever give them service.

    Findley belongs nowhere near this team and it is his constant inclusion along with Bornstein that shows Bob Bradley will never learn.

    As far as Altidore, I was never a fan and he should not be a starter or regular player until he develops a a first touch or any touch on the ball. He has to mature into a football player now. He can’t make it anymore just on atleticism and speed as he gets older and finds that in Europe it takes alot more skill and effort to play every weekend as a starter.

    • short passes

      August 12, 2010 at 12:14 am

      Rafael — I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said EXCEPT that another coach could have gotten us to the semi’s. I agree that BB messed up in his WC player selections but IMO he started messing up 2 years before when he failed to bring along the younger players and truly work them into the scheme of play. Instead he gave Torres , Feilhaber, Holden, etc brief appearances to fit into a pre-determined style and scheme of play (which incidentally fit his son’s abilities quite well) that never made use of their skills or abilities. As someone stated above, BB is a detail man, lots of films and XXX’s and OOO’s, but not a big picture guy. It would have taken such a person to truly look at what he had and then figure out a way to use those skills. BB is not that type of person but I believe that Klinsmann could be.

  5. Charles

    August 11, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Our D needs to improve, but did you really think thatUS can compete with a team like that ?

    There were some absolute studs out there, I am glad a watched.

    It is amazing, whenever there is a rumour article about Landon leaving, everyone posts that he needs to “prove” something by playing against that best. But after watching him play against studs, noone posts anything.

    Did he “prove” it or not last night ? It was a friendly ? OK, did he “prove” in the World Cup or not ? Is he developing in MLS ?

    Whenever there is evidence…….crickets.

    I thought the MLS players looked like the players out there for US. Sasha ( moved on this year ), Donovan, Buddle ( who looked WAY better than Altidore ), etc looked great. Findley didn’t, and I am not a fan of Bornstien ( even in MLS games, I don’t think he is that good ). Gonzales looked good at times too.

    2014 has a feel of 1998 and 2006 to me. Do we turn over some of the studs from 1994, or do we stick with them in 1998 ? We have seen the result of honoring someone’s past with playing time…it wasn’t pretty.

    • Abram

      August 11, 2010 at 3:25 pm

      For his first cap, Gonzalez looked really good. Time to get him more time. I am a big Jozy supporter, but I thought Buddle (and Gomez) looked better last night.

    • SSReporters

      August 11, 2010 at 5:53 pm

      Kljestan can’t complete 5 passes to save his life.

      Most of those guys had never played for Brazil at the senior level. That was a terrible showing by the US, but I know you treat MLS like a top 3 league so you had to get that dig in there. We will agree however on Buddle’s performance.

      • Charles

        August 11, 2010 at 7:18 pm

        Not top 3, but the only league I care about.

        Plus, I just have to counter all the anti MLS talk. It is everywhere, if the MLS guys performed like some/most of the Euro guys, you know everyone would be ripping on them. Need to go to Europe to develop, or they aren’t good enough for Europe and MLS is s–t.

        How about this no one playing Europe did anything last night except for Guzan ?
        Can’t we agree on that one ?

        • Nick

          August 11, 2010 at 8:27 pm

          Don Garber made the argument that there is NO evidence that, on balance, American players have gotten better by going to Europe. In fact, there is a significant risk that going to Europe will actually harm the development of some American players. When I look at Jozy (no playing time), Freddie Adu (can’t find a club), Donovan (got homesick), Wynalda (feuding with European coaches) and Guch (punched by racists), you could argue that these guys might have been better off if they had just stayed in MLS. The risks of going to Europe sometimes outweigh the benefits.

          • Robert

            August 12, 2010 at 12:16 pm

            Nick, MLS needs to step up and start paying our young talent and stop over paying for 30-somethings DPs to retire in MLS. How awesome would it be even 15 out of the 22 men who went to SA2010 played and stayed in MLS?
            Scouting is another issue. We need to pick up Mexican/South American talent before Europe gets a hold of them and jacks up their asking price. We can ship those players off to Europe for a handsome return and re-invest in MLS. When Henry’s career is finally over, are we ever going to recover our investment on transfer?

          • Charles

            August 12, 2010 at 2:33 pm


            First I agree with you, the DPs should be used to keep US guys home, if someone other than Donovan had scored the last second goal, MLS would have seen a major hero in a competing league….BUT,

            Fans need to show up first.
            Seattle could probably field/pay the whole USMNT.
            Maybe they couldn’t buy some of them back, but they could have kept them here. Seriously.
            The average team cannot afford to pay those salaries and the league is set up for semi-parity.

        • sergio lima

          August 13, 2010 at 7:40 pm

          Charles, sometimes when people criticeze is because they care, don’t you agree? Another thing. Do you support the MLS or the American soccer as a whole? Because, you know, the MLS is a business and can fold if the numbers don’t add up, right? So, I can’t believe you would stop liking soccer if the MLS decided to close their doors. And, in my oppinion, the American soccer as a whole is way more important than just a professional MLS.

    • Nick

      August 11, 2010 at 7:44 pm

      Buddle looked good. I think we should keep investing in Altidore and Davies because they are only in their early 20’s and developing their talent. Buddle is already 29 years-old. Either way, we are still waiting for one of them (or someone else) to emerge as a dangerous goal-scoring striker on the USMNT.

      • WSW

        August 13, 2010 at 1:50 pm

        If you want fans to show up just look at the summer friendlies, all euro fans want is for MLS to get better and it will never get better if the owners don’t take risks, every club should be fighting for number 1 not just to make the eighth seed, and the clubs that don’t make the play-offs their last games are irrelevant we need to change that. with a stable D2 we need a relegation playoff.

  6. WSW

    August 11, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    it’s funny how everybody thinks that we can compete against Brazil.

    First off change the youth structure, have clubs in MLS and D2 open developmental residency programs. Second stop taking players thru the college system they are pampered thru rich parents and they don’t have the flair under privalaged players do from other countries.

    Third start having a strong and stable D2 where actually players want to play and are honored to play in such a league.

    Fourth no salary cap in MLS.

    • sergio lima

      August 11, 2010 at 2:37 pm

      UAU. Is anybody reading this guy. Thanks WSW.

    • Abram

      August 11, 2010 at 3:39 pm

      I agree except for players who are under privileged having more flair. I’m curious as to why you think this. I wrote a blog on another site (I won’t link it b/c I’m not sure of linking rules here) about how the size of America (population and acreage) may actually hinder our national team.

      • WSW

        August 11, 2010 at 5:42 pm

        I don’t know about that but we are the world’s melting pot and we have to take advantage of that.

        • Roger

          August 11, 2010 at 9:08 pm

          Abram and WSW

          Is it a better way to take advantage of our size than promotion and relegation?
          Is there a better way to make our 2nd div relevant than promotion and relegation?
          Try to find in Brazil a city like Atlanta without a few clubs!
          Our size is unimportant if our league has the same number of clubs than Wales! Dont you think?

          Promotion and relegation makes too much sense to keep being ignored!

          The “menihnos da villa” play for Santos, wich is basically a neighborhood club. That is what we are missing, the close link between fans and clubs, wich a “single entity” system will never duplicate. Brazil talent will not be the same if a city like Sao Paulo had just one “franchise” (the sao paulo milky way kickers……waoooo), so that an owner/investoer could funnel all profits from the game. Sadly , that is what we have in america!

          In order for Brazil to have the talent they have,requires hundreds of clubs. The structure of clubs tournaments make a difference! Just look at the Concacaf Champions League, as soon as they implemented a meaningfull system,they gain in respect and popularity. The same needs to happen in US club soccer, the system that we have is a joke, as soon as we implement a meaningfull system, the respect and popularity of US club soccer will be unstopable!

          • UpTheBlues

            August 12, 2010 at 8:04 pm

            Completely agree with this comment. MLS is trying to build from top-to-bottom: establish a good top league, then worry about the lower divisions. It really should be built the opposite way, from the bottom up. Create a network of all the local town/city clubs we have in our country (there are a lot of them) and start promotion and relegation.

      • Dave C

        August 12, 2010 at 11:32 am

        I think it’s a popular myth about under-priveliged kids having more flair.

        Obviously more players in general come from an underpriveliged background, for various reasons. But I don’t think there is necessarily any correlation between being underpriveliged and having “flair”.

        • sergio lima

          August 13, 2010 at 9:53 am

          I agree with you on the flair but, underprivileged kids will accept a harder form of training than mid class kids. I saw this first hand in Brazil. You can push those poor kids to the limit and they won’t say a word, while many kids from mid class families wouldn’t show up for the next practice. I personally spoke with many coaches here in US about the lack of discipline on their teams’ practices and why they would allow that to happen time and time again and the answer was always the same, “If I push it hard they just disappear on me and we don’t have anybody to play”. Well, what was the point of trying if the kids don’t have their minds into it? For underprivileged kids is their way out of poverty, that is the big difference.

          • Dave C

            August 13, 2010 at 12:53 pm

            Yeah I agree that obviously more footballers in general make the grade, because they’re the most willing to train hard, and they have parents who will push them to play rather than focus on education.

            But what WSW was implying was that kids from underpriveliged backgrounds are more likely to have “flair”. I just don’t think that’s true. Of the relatively few “middle class” or “upper class” kids who get into football, I’m not sure if the proportion of “flair” players versus grafters is any different to amongst the poorer kids.

  7. Dave C

    August 11, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    I don’t understand the Bradley-hate…the US lost to Brazil, and everyone’s acting like he should be fired as a result??

  8. VarigDC10

    August 11, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    The jogo bonito is back and here to stay. Mano did a great job allowing the “garotos” to play as they wish, beuatiful. I wish none of these kids go to Europe, but tha’s impossible. I feel this game was better than ANY WC game, including the final. Most Brazilian players come from the “streets”, where the game is played from the heart and soul. American players come from Colleges and Universities, really not a good source. The problem is there is no “street” football in USA, and I feel there will never be.

  9. tbpirate

    August 11, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    It looked like a bad HORROR movie last night. Wow, do we have a LOT of work to do. Brazil was just playing with us; with young talent like that.

    Was it just me or did the field look small compared to the South African stadiums? I know that the new Meadowlands meets the 110 x 70 requirements but to for the US to host the World Cup I would think that our bigger stadiums would have to be the max 120 x 80. Besides the new MLS only pitches what big American football stadiums meet those reguirements? One other thing, maybe it was just my TV but it appeared that the near sideline dissappeared on TV. While watching the World Cup that never happened. Does the Meadowland pitch have bad sightlines for international football?

  10. Dan

    August 11, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Gulati you are a stupid moron. Fire Bradley already, let him get Villa and hire Jurgen you stupid IDIOT! We already lost an EXTREMELY valuable friendly to get our next generation’s feet wet. Jeez, why am I the only one so pissed off about this? Bradley did well and that’s as far as he can go, Klinsmann’s turn has come. Do it already!

  11. sergio lima

    August 11, 2010 at 10:33 am

    On a sad note. Yesterday we watched on tv that the Soccer hall of Fame received a few more names to be part of the history of the game. I had the opportunity to stop by two weeks ago at the building of the former Soccer Hall of Fame in Oneonta, NY. For one of those coincidences somebody had left the door open and after not seeing any sign prohibiting anybody for getting in I entered and took some picture. I don’t know if anybody here had an opportunity to visit that facility but I got emotional to see such a wonderful museum not being visited. They closed down the museum for lack of interest from the public. The thing is…The baseball hall of fame is on the very next town of Coopertown and to enter the Museum there I had to wait for almost thirty minutes in line. The town breeds that place. It is hard for me to believe that the administration of the soccer hall of fame could not take advantage of the sports fans coming to cooperstown in order to bring at least ten per cent of the fans to their magnificent place. And to get to Cooperstown you must drive through Oneonta, so… By the way, when I was leaving I saw a guy approaching the hall carring some boxes, so, the place was not abandoned. But the history of the sport for now it is because they are saying in their web page that they will pack everything and leave in storage. You can’t built the future without valuing the past.

  12. sergio lima

    August 11, 2010 at 10:14 am

    I want to talk about Bob Bradley. It is obvious that the American team lacks talent if compared with the biggest names in soccer. But why, even in having this difficiencies the American team is being able to achieve historic performancies? Because of Bob Bradley. He is capable of changing the team tactically during the games like few others could. He made mistakes like every other coach does and don’t forget, the American federation paid this guy per year what a Brazilian first division pay their mid level coaches per month. The most important in my view is the mentality of the national team. The federation and the fans should be discussing what do they all want from the American team. Do you care about results? Do you want to play like the Europeans or south Americans sesoning with your own spices? How big is your interet in watching your youth national teams playing? Are they integrated with the pros? In Brazil, coaches from the pros, out of nothing, call their coalegues from the under 15 and under 17 and ask them to send tree or four kids to be part of their practicies. it doesn’t mean they will play ball with them right out of the gate, but they will know the attitudes, the place, the fields and within months they will be playing the last minutes of the sessions at least five to ten minutes. many times, some really young kids won’t ever go back to their old teamates. Do we do this here? Why not? Sometimes, a kid who is not even the best under fifteen shines when playing among pros. We need to change our soccer philosophy or we are going to keep watching the trains go by.

  13. Robert

    August 11, 2010 at 10:14 am

    I hardly believe if we had a “foreign” coach the result would have been different.

  14. CTBlues

    August 11, 2010 at 8:47 am

    We need to bring in Jürgen Klinsmann!

  15. sergio lima

    August 11, 2010 at 8:14 am

    What is scary is that they did not play as good as we saw them playing for their teams before. This national team had only ONE practice together and there is some strong players missing. Ganso did not play half of what he is capable of and the speed was not there yet. They will get a lot better than that. The beautiful game is back. We don’t care about winnining or not, we want the boys to have fun, like they had yesterday. But Donovan has no excuse to play so little like he did yesterday. His heart was there but he needs to be more like a play maker and grab the team. The national team is his team. Americans can not afford to be in a position to be scored 5, 6 or even 7 goals like yesterday. it took years to everybody in the world realize that the American national team is for real, at least play your heart out.

  16. Bolacuadrada

    August 11, 2010 at 2:29 am

    I have been following the “meninos da vila.” It is scary. They will only get better. What a show! By the way, can the LA Galaxy grab Robinho? I know he makes a lot of money but since Man City is coached by an Italian, and Italian coaches do not like Brazilian players, he may no play at all this year.

    • CTBlues

      August 11, 2010 at 8:44 am

      Obiviously you haven’t heard of Carlo Ancelotti.

      • Bolacuadrada

        August 13, 2010 at 10:54 am

        Actually, I am a fan of AC Milan and he did a great job there. I just do not like how Capelo treated Robinho in Real Madrid.

  17. Nick

    August 11, 2010 at 1:50 am

    Brazil put on a clinic. Their young player are so good…it’s scary. Wow!

    USSF better double the amount that they are spending on academies.

  18. Alistair

    August 11, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Bob has to go other wise this team at this point won’t even qualified for the 2014 World Cup and it maybe time to get rid of US Soc­cer Pres­i­dent Sunil Gulati.

    • Al

      August 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm

      cmon not make the 2014 WC. U could coach this team out of CONCACAF qualifiers?!! thats just dumb. but you do have a point that Bob has probably done the best job he could have and that its time for a new perspective. I also agree with your that Gulati should go but i dont think any of us know of a good replacement.

  19. C.W.

    August 10, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Bob has done a great job, but he is out. The next US coach needs more “internatinal” experience. Even England has hired a foreign coach, and the US needs one more than England.

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