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Rumor: Henry Has Signed Pre-Contract With Red Bulls


 Just when you thought things would get interesting after the World Cup ends, now we are finding out that the heat and the excitement has turned up a bit hotter. This late report from The Sun in London has Thierry Henry already signing a pre-contract with the New York Red Bulls.

If this is true he can’t play for the club till after the World Cup and after MLS transfer window opens in the middle of July. But with one rumor getting more tantalizing by the minute, the other is Brazilian Midfielder Ze Roberto leaving Hamburg of the German Bundasliga and coming to the Cathedral of Football that is Red Bull Arena.

To have Ze Roberto behind both Juan Pablo Angel and Henry this attack could be lethal and with the good start that RBNY has had to the season (Yes the LA Galaxy are playing lights out and destroying everyone in sight at the moment), it would be very interesting to see what could happen in the second half of the season.

If you saw on the live stream from the Red Bulls official website of their US Open Cup Qualifier against the New England Revolution, it really doesn’t matter who is on the first team or the second. All the players are doing a job and when they get their chance to show what they are made of, it’s no mercy on who their opponent is.

But at the moment every single supporter of the New York Red Bulls just went to the supermarket on a late night run and got tons & tons of Kleenex tissue boxes to wipe the drool off their mouths. Yes we all know about the Hand Ball incident against the Republic of Ireland in the second leg of the World Cup UEFA Qualifying playoffs. To be honest while that was a horrible thing he did to the Irish, it doesn’t mean we here in the NYC Tri-State Area are shunning him because he is that good of a talent and we all know that he still has the talent to attack the net and score at will.

While Salou Ibrahim has done a decent job being Angel’s strike partner at the time, the truth in all this is that New York City needs to have Henry to make a statement in the city that never sleeps and the Red Bulls need another superstar in World Football to make Red Bull Arena shine and sparkle at night.

You can bring in the top clubs from Europe and South America for pre-season or international exhibitions to showcase this fabulous Arena and earn some respect from the other side. But honestly while it’s nice to have these things happen, this club needs to bring in the top players from the world and help earn some hardware, either domestically and or internationally.

If Hans Backe & Erik Soler continue with the good fortune and the right chemistry, it feels like this club will finally start earning some hardware a bit earlier than they had envisioned.


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  1. Poker Rakeback

    May 17, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Henry is too good to play in that mickey mouse league, they must be offering some serious bucks to play with that load of shit.

  2. Tom

    May 16, 2010 at 10:46 am

    ChazNYBulls – Watching an English league game inthe morning and going to an MLS game in the evening (in my case the Colorado Rapids) makes for a great day. And the game of how an MLS team would do against a mid-table or lower EPL team is an eternal discussion. I think the MLS is lower than the bottom of the EPL, but then again, the Red Bulls are one of the two best, so who knows? It will be great to Henry here.

  3. Football is good

    May 16, 2010 at 8:55 am

    I love how Kartik busts on the English, just like his people are taking over their country. HAHAHA!!! Props to you guys for getting revenge on your English oppressors. Soon, Queen Elizabeth will be dressed in traditional Brahman attire with a dot on her forehead. HAHAHAHA!!!! F England.

    • eplnfl

      May 16, 2010 at 11:04 am

      Football is good. You are a clown! And I am no fan of the England team as you see from the above.

  4. ChazNYbulls

    May 16, 2010 at 7:45 am


    Short of Messi himself, this seems miraculous to this Red Bulls fan!

    WELCOME Monsieur Henry!

    I watched the FA Cup final in the morning. Wish Portsmouth had hit the penalty, I mean it was such a lousy attempt. Chelsea’s had a great year but they seemed flat and how big a deal is the FA Cup anyway?
    I think I recall Man U playing their reserves in an earlier stage.
    It’s all beyond me as a newly-minted football fanatic.

    Later on I was able to trek out to our shiny new Red Bulls Arena to watch my New York team play Seattle who have been lame so far… whereas the Bulls had 15 points in just seven matches.

    But talk about flat, our star striker Juan Pablo Angel looks sleepy… although our defense managed quite well until they let up a really lovely goal in the 87th minute.

    I tried to compare the play of the EPL sides I watched in the morning versus the MLS action. I’m no expert but I would say the midfield play seems to be a glaring difference. The MLS players don’t seem to have that awesome skill when it comes to maintaining possession of the ball with the crisp passes you see all the time in the EPL. There seemed to be more, I dunno, wild clearances and just hope for the best. I know EPL players are utterly elite and not to mention the La Liga teams I watch all the time. But I wonder how the Red Bulls or the LA Galaxy would fare against, say, a mid-table Football League side. I’d like to see it but not in one of the bogus friendly matches!

  5. Tom

    May 15, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    The European qualifying groups are tougher than CONCACAF’s final group because less teams qualify from every European group. Only the winners in Europe qualified- 2nd place went into a playoff. CONCACAF’s top 3 qualified, and 4th went into a playoff. I like the Hexagonal, and I agree the bottom teams are better than the tiny also-rans in Europe, but there is more pressure in European qualifying.

    As to the English level of talent, it is a known quantity despite the fact that the players play in the EPL, because English clubs play in Europe. In fact, in the last few years, no country has had more players play in the Champion’s League final. English players play signficant roles in Chelsea, Man U., Arsenal, and Liverpool, all recent Champion’s League finalists and clubs that scout worldwide for players. Where I see hope for the US is that in this year’s Champions League, no English players were on clubs that made it to the semi-final stage, not to mention the final. Maybe England’s talent pool is in an ill-timed valley.

    Finally, one can be a fan of the US and still have a realistic view on talent and the prospects of various teams in the World Cup.

    • eplnfl

      May 16, 2010 at 7:32 am

      Thank you. My point about the English talent exactly, who really knows how good it is since they do not get out onto the world stage. How many can be top flight players in Spain, Italy, or Germany. It’s not like the NBA where everyone knows that it is the best league in the world.

  6. eplnfl

    May 15, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Chris: I agree England has to be favored over the US. however with the England injury situation, the internal strife, and lack of a strong run pre-WC schedule the gap is narrower than one may expect.

    England since Capello took over has been handled like Tiger Woods. We get a carefully crafted public image that hides the true self. Kartik has exposed the strength of schedule issue that would never be questioned by the English press who view a win over a European micro-state as a sign of the moral superiority of the nation. Over the winter the inner team turmoil was exposed and again the English press turn a blind eye towards the effects on the team in South Africa. Finally in my view, the true talent level of the English player pool can not known since the majority of English talent only plays in England where the top players are imported.

  7. Chris Webb

    May 15, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    First of all, “Cathedral of Football”?

    Can you please manage to sell out a match first before assuming that mantle? My God, you whined about getting that stadium for years and you can’t even manage to sell the joint out?

    Love that 1900 in attendance on Wednesday. Cathedral of Football my ass..

    Secondly, Kartik, I love you man, but you gotta chill a little bit on the England smack. The fact that they haven’t played a WC squad since 06′ is a mere coincidence, not a fact that makes them beatable. For God sakes, you were there in person at Wembley the last time the US played England (and believe me, a LOT of people on this side of the Atlantic were sure the US was going to win that game) and it wasn’t even close. It was men against scared little boys.

    Look, England is a bad matchup for the US in every spot on the field with the exception of goalkeeper. that’s not enough for the US. Do they have a punchers chance of taking points from England? Of course they do but I’m jaded enough to understand that a mismatch is a mismatch.

    I’m expecting a 2-goal loss to England and hoping the US psyche doesn’t crash after that match and they can regroup to beat their remaining foes.

  8. eplnfl

    May 15, 2010 at 8:22 am

    To get back on point. Handball Henry, a good one Kartik, is a great move for MLS and especially the NYRB. NY loves a name and he has one. Can he improve the team, yes he can, will he put fans in the seat yes he will, will he raise the profile of MLS, yes he will.

    All of that being said we all wait for the time when MLS can sign the big names in the prime of their career. Let’s hope that comes soon.

    Now as to the side show that became the main attraction. England’s run to the WC has been the product of a less than top quality schedule. The friendlies have been nothing but tune-ups against lesser opposition. Did they face anyone like Spain and Brazil last summer like the US did? No! As to their qualification group they get put into it, but the final European groups are not as tough as the final CONCACAF group. Period end of story on that one. I look forward to Mexico v. England to see what England will do against a quality opponent. I suggest the 3 kittens take El Tri seriously.

    • Kartik Krishnaiyer

      May 15, 2010 at 12:14 pm

      How could you say that about Mexico? Don’t you know that Carlos Vela doesn’t ever play for Arsenal, Gio was a bust at Spurs and Franco only average at West Ham. Since the average England fan does not watch anything else and TV commentators can make comments like “This is the 8th cup/league double in football history,” because the English have exclusive provence on the sport, you realize those lowly Mexican players not playing in the Prem don’t count. Who cares that Marquez has won two champions leagues, and Osorio the Bundesliga title, they really don’t count.

      When Mexico falters on the torn up, disgraceful Wembley turf, not far above sea level, we’ll hear how bad CONCACAF is and how England will have an E-A-S-Y group. I hope for England’s sake they don’t face El Tri in South Africa, at altitude on a proper pitch.

      As for the debate above, Rooney would start for Spain. Beyond that I don’t know a single English player that would start for Spain right now. Really, I don’t. Again, we are talking international level not club achievements. The Spanish midfield and defense have been much stronger against essentially the same UEFA competition as England in qualifying and were stout in the Euros, a tournament England failed to qualify for. Right now, I take Rooney above player on the planet, but beyond that England like they always are in major competitions is simply slightly above ordinary.

  9. Daniel Feuerstein

    May 15, 2010 at 4:03 am

    Getting back on point Eric Altshule. Will you wear the Henry Claret Arsenal Jersey? 😉

    • Eric Altshule

      May 15, 2010 at 10:11 am

      You guys sign Henry and then I will reveal my shirt choice. If that isn’t an inscentive, I don’t know what is!

      • Daniel Feuerstein

        May 16, 2010 at 12:30 am

        That’s good enough for me.

  10. Poker Rakeback

    May 15, 2010 at 12:32 am

    ‘If Spain had the opportunity to grant instant citizenship to any and every English player and insert them into their line-up, who would challenge a Spanish player for position?’

    I would take the English back four over Spains any day of the week
    Puyol is past it, Ramos is a centre back who plays right back because they haven’t got anyone else and cole is the best left back in the world so of course he would get in spain’s team, he’d get in anyone’s team.
    Rooney, better than villa any day of the week.
    I’ll give you spains midfield is better, but that’s still 5 English players i would have over Spains
    Kartic you’re a frigging idiot, your qualification is a joke, everyone knows that apart from brazil or argentina, a european team is going to win it. And as for crap comp’s like the africans cup, or the asian cup, who gives a shit, the competition is just not there. The euro’s are as hard to win as the world cup itself because like i have already said, there’s only brazil or argentina who have a chance outside of a european team anyway

    The fact is that no American players would get in England’s first team and that includes your very average superstar Donovan but let’s wait until June and then we can let the teams do the talking

    P.S Kartic, Don’t try to presume what England fans know or don’t know about world football. I’m 34 and have been watching and playing football since i was 6 yrs old. I don’t need someone like you to try and tell me about the game just because you talk shit on a podcast.

    • Eric Altshule

      May 15, 2010 at 1:14 am

      You are a great example of why England fans end up so disappointed – it is because they start off so deluded. If Puyol is “past it, ” what is Rio? He has not had “it” in a couple of years. John Terry is coming off his poorest season, and is perhaps a certifiable mental case who looks like he can blow (and earn an early Red) at any moment. I am less impressed by Ashley Cole than most – bad mouth Landon Donovan all you want but he had Cole tripping over himself when Everton played Chelsea earlier this year. And on the other side? Your guess is as good as mine. The lack of talent there is jaw-dropping. I promise you that del Bosque would not put a single English player in his lineup, and I would bet that Capello would do a wholesale trade if he could.

      • Poker Rakeback

        May 15, 2010 at 7:04 am

        @ Eric – What you or the spanish manager would do is a matter of opinion. I would have spain’s keeper, the english back four, spain’s midfield and Torres and Rooney up front. I might even find a spot for Lampard in the midfield the way he has played recently.
        However, you’re comparing England to what most would consider the best team in the world right now, and the fact that I can put half the English team in there makes me feel confident about going into this tournament.

  11. Eric Altshule

    May 14, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    I don’t know how this article got turned to this debate, but I will take the bait. England may or may not beat the US on June 12, but I cannot imagine England going far in this World Cup. They are an over-valued property and have been for a generation. Play this game with me for a moment – if Spain is the #1 team, they are a favorite to make the final, right? Blindly, foolishly loyal English fans think England can make the final. If Spain had the opportunity to grant instant citizenship to any and every English player and insert them into their line-up, who would challenge a Spanish player for position? Maybe you would slot in Rooney for David Villa to start along with Torres. Maybe. Other than that, who else? Would any English midfielder make the Spanish starting XI? No way. Would Terry or Ferdinand replace Pique or Puyol? Never. Cole and whoever over Ramos or Capdevial. Not a chance. Whatever stiff is drafted to play goal over Casillas? Don’t make me laugh. The Spanish team (which, btw, lost to the US last year) is so much better, deeper and more skillful than England it is not even comparable.

    Every four years England produces its “best team in a generation,” and every four years they flop. 2010 will be the same. They simply are not good enough.

  12. Tom

    May 14, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    A bit harder for England to make a final as they are in Europe, and the European nations final is the hardest of the confederations finals to make (one reason being that it is every 4 years as opposed to 2). The Gold Cup is a joke, and always held in the US.

    Donovan had a poor 2006 World Cup. I’ve also seen him playing poorly here in Colorado. That said, he is a very good player.

    I assume that the poster Kartic is not the real Kartic.

    • eplnfl

      May 15, 2010 at 8:08 am

      Fair to say about Donovan that he is a great player who had a poor WC in 2006 but so did the rest of his team. Donovan had the talent but he had to make himself a great player and he did! Clint Dempsey is another player that had to make himself the quality player he is. How many players do we see come into the game with exceptional talent and after a great few years just fade away. Donovan and Dempsey stand out as players who made it in the long run.

  13. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    May 14, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    First off folks we are talking about international matches and not club matches. How many goals has England scored in World Cup or Euro Championship play that Beckham has not had a hand in? I estimate that over HALF England’s goals in the Euro 2000, and 2004 and World Cup 2002 and 2006 he had a DIRECT role in. That also goes for Donovan. Average Premier League player someone said above. That is meaningless in the discussion. As an international he’s top class. He’s had more of a positive impact for his national team than any other player in the world, save very few. This includes scoring and setting up goals in competitive matches against the likes of Brazil, Spain, Mexico, Italy, etc. England as noted above has not even played a single competitive match against a nation of that caliber since 2006.

    Someone above cited world rankings. Do you believe the Czech Republic and the USA were both among the five best footballing national teams in 2006? Entering the World Cup they were both ranked in the top 5.

    The problem so many American football fans have with English fans is that you come across as the authorities on football when in fact many of you are not well grounded in the world game. We are exposed to more leagues and more international football on the telly here than you see there- the entire prism of many English fans is what is read in the papers and what is seen in the four professional divisions of English football. Each and every World Cup and Euro cycle we go through this same routine of debating how strong England is, and then we almost always see England fall well below expectations. Then we hear commentary about how the manager cost England or the referee cost England. that is coupled with the usual discourse on how Yanks don’t understand football, even though as I already pointed out we see more of it from more places around the globe than you do.

    Sorry for the rant, because I really do love English club football and the culture and tradition around the club game in your country. But anytime any criticism is leveled at your underachieving national team whose last major final was in 1966 (as compared to 2010 for Ghana, 2009 for the US, 2007 for Iraq, 2004 for Greece, 2004 for Japan, 2001 for Mexico, 2000 for Canada, 1996 for the Czech Republic, 1992 for Denmark, and so on and so forth) the author or commentators knowledge of the sport is impugned. I’m tired of it. I’m also tired about being right every major tournament about England. I’d love to see you guys win something, but it isn’t happening this year or anytime soon.

  14. james

    May 14, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Also Beckam is definitely not the most important English player on the pitch in the last 10 years. Off of it, sure.

  15. Rhett

    May 14, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Hey Wankers, go back to EPL Talk.

    You will never respect anything any Yank says that compliments the USA and rips England. You people live in a world where you are a major power even though countries like Turkey, Russia and Croatia have done more the last decade than you.

    By the way Donovan who Kartik has wrongly and pettily attacked in the past has been consistently better at the international level than any current English player. Do you recall how bad Lampard was in the last World Cup? When was the last time an English player scored a goal like Donovan did against Brazil? Oh right, I forgot Stevie G’s great one versus Andorra.

    Petty and not versed on world soccer would describe most three lions fans. Freaking go away. Go back to EPL Talk or some other Wanker loving site.

  16. DCUDiplomat96

    May 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Henry will be good for the league I wonder how america will receive it I’m sure Jay z has a condo for him in manhattan

  17. Tom

    May 14, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    In reference to England not playing a team that has qualified for the WC. Croatia is better than many teams that qualfied for the last, and this, world cup. Hondorus and T+T are two examples. I agree that the teams in the CONCACAF final round are a little better than the average UEFA group; but 3 and 1/2 teams qualify out of the CONCACAF Hexagonal, where as less than 1 and 1/2 teams qualify out of each UEFA group. That is a big difference in pressure.

    I agree that England not qualifying for the last EURO’s means that they have lacked quality games. CONCACAF, however, does not have a quality equivalent to the European Nations Cup; thus, it is good that the US were in the Confederation’s Cup. I’m looking forward to the US – England game, but England are certainly favorites.

    • bandeeto

      May 15, 2010 at 9:35 pm

      Yes CONCACAF sucks compared to any other region in the world, and the US sucks compared to anyone outside of our region… which is why we beat Spain, made it to the confed cup final, and outplayed Brazil for 45 minutis this summer. Because we suck. Also we had several players voted to the Confed cup best 11… because we suck and no country would ever play our players unless they were from crapy-poopy-pants CONCACAF.

      People, please wake up. I don’t expect the US to wind the World Cup this year, but we have a decent team (on our day a dangerouse one) and a decent roster with a sprinkling of some quality players. I’m proud of the US national team, imperfect as they are, and don’t understand understand US soccer “fans” that still take every opportunity to put down the team the supposedly support. So we’re not the best team in the world. We are among the best 32. This year that’s all that matters.

  18. Daniel Feuerstein

    May 14, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Jack: It was a qualifier. These are just qualifiers till they earn a spot in Round 3 proper. So I’m not worried about that right now.

  19. Jack

    May 14, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    “Cathedral of Football that is Red Bull Arena”?

    They couldn’t even pull in more than 1500 people the other night for a US Cup match!

  20. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    May 14, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Handball Henry? Wow………..But certainly more quality for an already good RBNY team.

    In fairness, MLS has already two of the most influential internationals of recent times. David Beckham is far and away England’s best player at the international level over the past ten years. He has had a part in the majority of goals England has scored in the last two World Cups, and his absence is one of many the reasons the US is now the favorite to defeat them next month. You can add to that England’s injuries, their lack of big international game experience of their manager, their lack of bottle in big games w/o Becks and Owen, the fact they have not played a single competitive match against opposition that has qualified for this World Cup since the last World Cup , gosh I had to re-read that to make sure it is true because it seems to unbelievable. In the same period the US has played 14 competitive matches vs World Cup qualified opposition. Slovenia and Algeria both have played several and Mexico has played 13. Once again shows as Eric A. pointed out on this site months ago that if you get the right qualifying groups in UEFA you can qualify easily.

    MLS also has Landon Donovan who at this point in time is one of the top five influential internationals in the world. Signing Henry would add a player of stature but also one of great controversy and whose reputation has been scarred. Nonetheless, it is a good move.

    Back to the England point. People in this country need to stop pretending they are Brazil or Germany. They are England for god’s sake. A paper tiger, nothing in the world of international football. They have also played nobody in a serious match in four years! Four years, while the US has been playing high level matches all over the globe! I made the mistake of picking England to beat us right out of the gate after the draw, but now after months of study and thought, I’d be very disappointed if we did not beat them and shocked if we did not at a minimum get a draw.

    Additionally, their seem to be a lot of American born people I interact with in the new job rooting for England. That, I personally have no words for, but you can imagine mt reaction.

    • David the Yank

      May 14, 2010 at 12:18 pm

      Ummmm, I don’t even know where to start with such a post.

      Fact 1: England are massive favorites to win on 12 June. go to any bookie site, etc. If you’d like to supply me even odds on England against US I will gladly take it for whatever size. (And I am a USA fan.)

      Fact 2: It is conceivable Beckham *might* have made Capello’s roster if fit. It is inconceivable that Capello would have put him on the pitch to start the USA game.

      Fact 3: Landon Donovan is not one of the top 5 nor top 15 nor top 20 players in the world. He would not be selected first if there were a draft of 20 teams. He was not the best player on the pitch for Everton, though he made an impact and did a nice job for them during his 2-month loan.

    • Poker Rakeback

      May 14, 2010 at 7:29 pm

      Haha haha ahaha, you frigging clown,

      ‘They have also played nobody in a serious match in four years! Four years,’

      Croatia, who England beat twice in meaningful competition are ranked in the top 10 in the world

      Donoan isn’t shit, he’s an average player in the prem, nothing special.

      How the hell does someone this fucking stupid write articles and speak on podcasts. Your comments have actually made me question whether it’s worth coming back to this site.

      One word – clown.

      America are going down, they haven’t got one player who would start for England

  21. Daniel Feuerstein

    May 14, 2010 at 12:58 am

    Eric. Go with the Henry last year at Highbury claret Arsenal Jersey 😉 Hell come on over to Red Bull Arena in August and I’ll shake your hand for making a bold statement. 😀

  22. Eric Altshule

    May 14, 2010 at 12:06 am

    My favorite player of all time is Thierry Henry. Perhaps my favorite athlete of all time. To have him in MLS would be a real treat.

    My problem is that, if Henry move to MLS, on Sept 24 the Red Bulls come to play the Galaxy at the HDC. Do I wear my traditional Landon Donovan orange 2006 jersey or my Henry last-year-at-Highbury claret Arsenal jersey? This is a problem I never expected to have!

    • Robert

      May 14, 2010 at 12:46 pm

      A grown man wondering what other mans jersey to wear. Grow up dood

      • Cavan

        May 14, 2010 at 1:27 pm


        While I can’t judge Eric’s jersey choices for himself, my DC United replica tshirt has no name on it because I’m a fan rather than a team member. (I don’t have a US jersey/tshirt but use my scarf instead at Nataional Team games.)

        • james

          May 14, 2010 at 9:15 pm

          One of my least favorite things about attending MLS games is seeing all of the random third party Euro jerseys. Look, either wear an MLS jersey for one of the teams playing or don’t wear a jersey at all.

  23. Miami Ultra

    May 13, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Wow, Henry AND Ze Roberto would be nuts. If that happens, that’s plenty of love for the NYC market. So please Garber, lose your hard on for a second NY club and look to the southeastern US *cough*South Florida*cough* for team #20!!

  24. CA

    May 13, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    This is great news for the entire league.

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