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Donovan Will Make a Permanent Move to Everton

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To call Landon Donovan’s loan to Everton a success is to call the Grand Canyon a decent-sized hole.  Tthe loan has exceeded everyone’s expectations.  Beyond fitting in well from the start, starting every game, scoring one and creating a good handful, winning over the Goodison crowd and being several commentators’ Man of the Match in Everton’s upset of Chelsea this week, Landon has proved it all in only six weeks.

So, now what?

The most important questions is whether Donovan wants to stay at Everton.  I possess no portal into Landon’s brain, but I am sure he wants to stay.  As the saying goes, how do you keep the girl down on the farm once she has seen Paris?  He has played with great players, against great players in a pulsating atmosphere with a bunch of ‘Tonians chanting “USA, USA, USA” every time he goes to take a corner kick.  How do you beat that?  With all due respect to my fellow Galaxy supporters, you don’t beat it at the Home Depot Center. 

Moreover, I sense that he does not want to just stay in Europe – he wants to stay at Everton.  Donovan is the type of individual that craves the comfort that comes from predictability.  Having integrated himself into the Everton scheme and found himself a home on the right side of their midfield, Donovan does not have a wandering eye.  He likes to be comfortable around his teammates, have a rapport with the fans, and know who his manager is going to be for the foreseeable future.  Everton has fit that bill, and manager David Moyes shares Donovan’s aversion to personality drama.  Moyes likes players who put their heads down and work hard, and Donovan likes being that type of player.

So if Landon is going to stay, how does that happen?  Luckily, last year’s fiasco with David Beckham and the loan move to AC Milan provides a primer in what not to do.  Last year, Beckham essentially arranged a loan to Milan for himself and summarily informed the Galaxy, and then from the beginning began agitating in the press about his desire to make it permanent.  The Galaxy are owned by the Anschutz Entertainment group, and Philip Anschutz , one of the wealthiest men in America, did not make his money by giving in to such nonsense.  He had Beckham under contract and proved himself entirely unmoved by Beckham’s protestations.   Although Beckham’s loan was extended for a couple of months and renewed this season, there is little doubt that Beckham will play out his Galaxy contract and is likely to end his career in a Galaxy shirt.

Donovan has handled his situation completely differently.  He renegotiated his Galaxy contract with a loan deal in mind.  There are rumors that a buyout clause was included in the contract.  If that is true, neither Donovan, Moyes , nor the Galaxy are saying anything about it in public.  In fact, all three parties are saying as little as possible about the future other than talking about honoring the loan agreement.

I would expect Donovan to go back to the Galaxy in March and play with them until the National Team convenes in May.  After the World Cup, things will get interesting.  I am sure that Everton would like to buy him immediately and have him start the EPL season in blue.  I am sure the Galaxy would want to keep him for the rest of the MLS season, milk any post-World Cup buzz and tickets sales the National Teams happens to garner, and agree to sell Donovan in January.  My crystal ball is not so clear as to know which route will be taken, but it will be one or the other.

I have seen on various Everton web sites how many commenters find it curious that many Americans (but certainly not all) actually want Donovan to go to Everton.  As a Galaxy season ticket holder, I can give my perspective.  It does not come from any inferiority complex about the state of soccer in America.  As someone who has watched Donovan play more games than I can remember, I know that he has nothing left to prove in MLS.  I will miss watching him play live, but watching him torture Ashley Cole on TV the other day was just simply a lot of fun.  A couple of times, it actually made me laugh.

Watching Donovan spend another season ripping up the back line of the Kansas City Wizards or the Colorado Rapids will not be nearly as entertaining.  Moreover, I think Landon Donovan probably feels the same way.

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  3. TheGoat

    August 12, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Screw it if he leaves, screw it if he stays. I like Landon Donovan, but I’m not gonna stop watching MLS because he leaves. He wasn’t the reason I watch soccer to begin with. Furthermore, I watch many leagues of many sports and there isn’t a single player in any league that will make me stop watching a team, a league, or a sport. I simply like watching soccer, I like watching gridiron football, baseball, whatever. MLS has some good players, some bad players, but at the end of the day, if you’re not entertained, then don’t follow MLS. I enjoy watching it so I’m gonna keep watching.

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    August 12, 2010 at 7:14 am

    The most important questions is whether Donovan wants to stay at Everton. I possess no portal into Landon’s brain, but I am sure he wants to stay.

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    July 16, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    The EPL will pay you to play a team that will beat you every time, as long as you finish 17th or better.

    • Dave C

      July 16, 2010 at 11:55 pm

      Strange comment…firstly the EPL has one of the highest rates of “shock” results (i.e. underdogs beating favorites) of any top level league in any major sport, so I’m not sure there are any teams “that will beat you every time”.

      And secondly, at least in the EPL, if you finish lower than 17th there is some punishment – you get relegated. Compare this to the MLS. Or, since I assume from your name you’re an NFL fan, what happens in the NFL if you finish bottom? You actually get rewarded by getting the top draft pick next season. So which league is really rewarding mediocrity here??

      • Charles

        August 23, 2010 at 3:54 pm

        The EPL has the highest shock results !?!?! Please reveal your source and or numbers. I would love to see that.

        Shocking, after two games the top three teams are ManU, Chelsea and Arsenal. Who would have thought ?

        I wonder if they will stay on top ? the suspense is killing me……

  6. banggood

    July 14, 2010 at 4:32 am

    The most important questions is whether Donovan wants to stay at Everton. I possess no portal into Landon’s brain, but I am sure he wants to stay.

  7. David

    February 17, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    I am a Galaxy fan. But I would love to see Landon make the move. I think it would be better for him personally and for the USMNT. But at least for now, it isn’t going to happen. I’m sure he wants to go and Everton would like to keep him. But MLS got $10M for Jozy and will want at least that much for Landon. Everton probably doesn’t have it. Even if they do, they probably aren’t ready to splash it out on Donovan. Landon will be back with the Galaxy in six weeks. If he has a good showing at the World Cup, Everton or another big club may come knocking. But I don’t see him moving before the end of the MLS season, if at all.

  8. Joe in Indianapolis

    February 17, 2010 at 10:22 am

    MLS Talk, it’s time for new articles. WTF

    • The Gaffer

      February 17, 2010 at 11:33 am

      Joe, thanks for your patience. We’re currently in transition mode as we’re looking for more writers to add to MLS Talk. In the meantime, be sure to follow MLS Talk on Twitter for updates at

      The Gaffer

  9. Lars

    February 16, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Oh and Wynne’s terrible too.

    From a concerned TFC supporter.

    • SSReporters

      February 17, 2010 at 10:03 pm

      Yes. I hope we trade him ASAP. This guy is a terrible defender.

  10. les

    February 16, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Donovan to stay loyal to our domestic league. While the “big four” in England are better than MLS, our league otherwise is as good if not better. If you put a team of MLS All Stars in the Premier League, they would win the title.

    Consider this lineup

    Wynne Conde Marshall Bornstein
    Joseph Beckham Ljunberg Donovan
    Montero Angel

    Bench: Keller, Derosario, Kljestan, Schelotto, Ching, Rogers, DeGuzman

    This team would at worst finish 3rd and most likely win the EPL title.
    Just because the EPL teams spend like mad does not mean it is better than MLS which is the most competitive league in the world. Even the MLS hater himself Krishnaiyer conceded Americans want to see competition and suspense rather than the predictable results of the EPL. Of course he also said Donovan would face much stiffer competition in the EPL which is factually wrong. The worst team in MLS, Red Bulls would crush whomever the worst EPL team is- the game would not even be competitive. You have to bring your A game very day in MLS because of the balance, unlike the EPL where top teams can take most games off.

    • The Three Lions

      February 16, 2010 at 6:54 pm

      You have got to be having a laugh, that shite wouldl be lucky to stay in the league. I’ll give you an epl team that would win the world cup

      Johnson Vidic Terry Cole
      Anelka Fabregas Essien Giggs
      Drogba Rooney


      Sagna Ferdinand Vermalin Evra
      Kuyt Gerrard Lampard Malouda
      Torres Van Persie

    • Lars

      February 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm

      Onstad? Really?

      I’m Canadian. I wish the guy would just retire and become a coach.

      He’s not a good goalkeeper at all…

    • Charles

      February 17, 2010 at 9:17 am

      I think the EPL is a joke ( the 5th best team finishing 30 points out joke), but come on, get real.
      MLS All-Stars….Win the title, Finish third ?

      Ljungberg plays in Seattle because he can’t get playing time on the 3rd best team in the EPL.
      I think he could play on Everton (5th last year ) for sure, he has money and he doesn’t want to subject himself to finishing 5th-10th for eternity.

      We saw MLS All-Stars play against Everton, we have seen Landon play with Everton, Beckham play with ACM, we have pretty good comparisons.

      They lead me to believe MLS is behind, but isn’t that far behind the EPL ( definitely, definitely excluding the top 4 teams )….except in fan support. A lot would disagree with me there, and
      To believe the All Stars could win it, is a huge leap even from that outlying point of view.

      • SSReporters

        February 17, 2010 at 10:05 pm

        Are you for real, Charles? You think you can make that conclusion by watching an exhibition game? MLS All-Stars vs. Preseason Mode Everton?

        I guess then the MLS All Stars are better than Chelsea.

        • Charles

          February 18, 2010 at 3:18 pm

          Ummm. NO and I didn’t say as much.
          I said we have good comparisons, do you want me to list them all ?

          Also, please take your personal comments to a bar and get in a fight or something.
          IF you want to talk soccer cool, Les thinks the EPL isn’t that far ahead of MLS and someone on this site thinks it is the 72nd best league in the world….
          BUT NO ONE on the site (especially me) cares to talk/read about your personal opinion of me.

          • Dave

            May 3, 2010 at 10:44 am

            Ha, just trawling through this old thread, and I saw Les’ comment. That’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard. Just to put things in perspective: Angel had ONE hot-streak season about 8 years ago for Aston Villa, after that he was never particularly special. Injury prone and inconsistent, not even a guaranteed starter (and this was in the time when Villa were probably the 10th best team in the PL).
            Ljungberg is completely over the hill. There is no way he would get close to the starting team at ANY PL team, apart from maybe Hull or Burnley.

            Charles is being VERY generous to suggest Ljungberg could get into Everton’s team. He didn’t leave for the MLS because he couldn’t get into the third-best team in England (Arsenal). He left Arsenal a long time ago. He went to MLS because he couldn’t get regular footy at West Ham, near the bottom of the PL.

            Donovan (and maybe Beckham)is the only player in Les’ all-star team who could play in the PL.

    • Juan

      February 17, 2010 at 1:33 pm

      ” You have to bring your A game very day in MLS because of the balance, unlike the EPL where top teams can take most games off.”

      Shouldn’t it read: You have to bring your A game very day in the EPL because of the competition for European spots and the threat of relegation, unlike the MLS where teams can take most games off because half the teams will get into the playoffs and you will not be relegated for mediocracy.

      Wynne has a lot to learn and needs to have a better touch, a lot better to even think of crossing the pond one day…
      Montero and Angel are awesome, but he is no Drogba or Rooney.
      Ljunberg is great but he couldn’t last a whole EPL season.
      The thing about the EPL is that you need at least 25 players or something like that with injuries and everything. This team would be in a relegation fight, but could stay up in the EPL. It would be fun to see though. Except for Wynne…. we need a better RB than him.

      • Charles

        February 17, 2010 at 4:53 pm

        Juan, That was the part of the comment that was correct.

        Look at half of the teams in the EPL, Everton included. They have nothing to play for. They are not going to win anything and they are not going to get relegated.
        The season has been over for them for months already.

        The gee I hope we finish fifth and play in the Europa losers league is just pathetic…but I guess it is better than playing for 17th, huh ?

        While having 1/2 of the teams make the playoffs isn’t ideal, it does make it exciting. Virtually every team in MLS could have won the championship until the last day of the regular season.

        • Lars

          February 17, 2010 at 5:58 pm

          Yes, so we reward mediocrity in MLS.

          Very inspiring.

          • Charles

            February 18, 2010 at 3:05 pm

            Obviously this is the arguement repeated over and over by many others. But it is better than watching the same teams win all the time.
            That is unsustainable in the US.

            Plus don’t they reward medocrity in the EPL. The EPL will pay you to play a team that will beat you every time, as long as you finish 17th or better.
            Very exciting stuff watching teams try not to finish last….doesn’t that define mediocrity ?

  11. Joey Clams

    February 16, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Do you guys plan on publishing any more stories? This one’s getting ripe.

    • Charles

      February 17, 2010 at 9:05 am

      Joey, you and I agree on something !

      I am guessing it is about time they put up the Landon vs Man U post.

      This site is dead.

      • The Gaffer

        February 17, 2010 at 11:33 am

        Charles, thanks for your patience. We’re currently in transition mode as we’re looking for more writers to add to MLS Talk. In the meantime, be sure to follow MLS Talk on Twitter for updates at

        The Gaffer

    • The Gaffer

      February 17, 2010 at 11:33 am

      Joey, thanks for your patience. We’re currently in transition mode as we’re looking for more writers to add to MLS Talk. In the meantime, be sure to follow MLS Talk on Twitter for updates at

      The Gaffer

  12. free bet

    February 16, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    he played really well today against sporting…

  13. Brickthrower

    February 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    I think everyone is jumping the gun here. Landon has been in good form. However, the EPL clubs aren’t salivating to sign him just yet. Moyes ruled out a permanent move and Landon has voiced his desire to stay with the MLS for now. How Landon performs in European competitions (Sporting matches) and at the World Cup will be the huge indicators. Time will tell. I also believe the MLS understands how important it is for them to keep Landon.

  14. Efcforever

    February 16, 2010 at 5:01 am

    Hes come in settled really well with the squad that is renowned for having a great team spirit.Hes playing week in week out and playing well,he offers us a different option with his pace something we dont have.During his stay he will have played agasint Arsenal at the emirates where we drew and should have won,Man City at home who we battered,Liverpool away where we where very poor,Chelsea at home where he had a massive contribution to the win and gave “the worlds best left back” a torrid time.Hes now got games against Sporting lisbon and Manchester united to look forward too.They are massive games and i hope have gave him the appetite to want more.Everton are a great family club,if you work hard and you are a good player you will do well at Everton,the fans have really warmed to him aswell,he could be a fan favourite if he stays no doubt about it,and not only will we be getting a good player our profile in the states will only improve which is only a good thing.I hope Donovan wants to stay and i hope he can extend the loan deal until the end of the season we are playing really well at the moment and we need him to stay to help us finish the season on a high,and then in the summer the two clubs come to an agreement.If not i wish him all the luck in the world,hope america do well in the world cup,and Australlia America final,Cahill vs Donovan would be brilliant however very unlikely,and i hope at very least we can continue to bring him in in january til march for the next few years.COYB

  15. Bolacuadrada

    February 14, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    As a LA Galaxy fan who also likes Liverpool FC you know what I feel about Donovan staying at Everton. Well, I supported Beckham in his temporary move to AC Milan. I wish Donovan success with Everton also. The only difference is that with LA Galaxy he has a better chance to win a Championship. Go LA Galaxy.

  16. todd

    February 14, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Very interesting discussion. As a Donovan/Galaxy fan, I’m completely enjoying having a real connection an EPL team. Lets go, Everton!
    The real question is, what’s with the Colorado Rapids fan getting all bent? Micah? Is that you?

  17. Tad

    February 14, 2010 at 1:20 am

    I’m a massive L.A. Galaxy supporter and I know for a fact he will NOT stay and play in EPL. Without a doubt he will be back in the States!!

  18. CA

    February 13, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Pretty sure they were divorced.

  19. Mikey

    February 13, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Isn’t Donovan still married to Bianca Kajlick? I think her show has been renewed. IMDB says they’re “separated.” Depending on what that means, that could be big influence on moving to Europe full-time…one way or the other.

  20. DaveB

    February 13, 2010 at 5:45 am

    Been an evertonian 32 years. Seen Donovan play twice now in the flesh and I think he’s very decent. I for one hope he stays cos he has an Everton attitude and plenty of good footballing attributes. The fans and has teammates have really taken to him.

    As far as US players playing outside the MLS – It definately improves the USA national team as playing at a higher standard week in week out can only make them better more experienced players. It can be argued either way as to the long term benefits to the MLS, if all the best players leave the league will that result in less people wanting to go the matches?? or does the fact that the national team being a stronger force and certain players gaining in reputation abroad actually draw more americans to the sport?? I don’t know the answer. All I can say is that I’m sure LD playing in europe will have resulted in more americans taking in football from the EPL recently and maybe watching the game at a higher level and aspiring to get to that standard will rub off on more young americans. Very few English players (virtually none) play outside of the EPL yet internationally we haven’t won anything for over 40 years so having all your players playing in your own domestic league is not the best way of putting an international side together. I think if some of our best players had played some years in Spain/Italy etc they would be more experienced in other footballing cultures and we might have gotten closer to winning something as a result.

    You should be proud of LD cos he representing your country very well at the moment both on and off the pitch.


  21. Charles

    February 12, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    I love “the MLS will benefit from having US players play in other leagues” arguement.
    It is soooo stupid.

    Marcus Hahnemann played for the Sounders. He now plays in the EPL.
    The Sounders will draw 40,000 a game this year…NOT ONE person is there because of that fact.
    Not even $22 in revenue from one cheap seat will be sold because of that.

    It is a JOKE to even think that will be true.

    • SSReporters

      February 16, 2010 at 5:45 pm

      You’re the worst commenter on this site. Bar none.

      • Charles

        February 17, 2010 at 9:44 am

        Brilliant post SSReporters.

        Sorry mine aren’t up to this quality.

  22. Jon

    February 12, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    In the US Landon is a very small fish in a huge pond. At least at Everton he’s getting the love he deserves from the fans. He has nothing to prove in the MLS and still young enough to have a long career in the EPL.

  23. george

    February 12, 2010 at 9:03 pm


    Donovan must play in the EPL. If he is the best the USA has to offer he must continue to make us proud. As an American, i love to see him and dempsey and the rest thrive…… Football in America on the International Stage will only BENEFIT from these lads going abroad and gettin’ stuck in! Landon looks the business in Everton blue… he’s good on the ball, takes players on, creates chances with the best England has to offer like Walcott and Lennon. I guarantee that Capello based on current form would much prefer Landy over Walcott and Lennon….

    God Bless America, and God Bless our Boys proving themselves overseas on the biggest and best possible stage! American soccer players are on the cusp of greatest on the GLOBAL SCENE and Donovan will pave the way….

  24. Sgc

    February 12, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Why don’t you guys GTFO out this domain name and give it to someone who wants to, you know, talk about Major League Soccer?

    • Lars

      February 12, 2010 at 3:24 pm

      I happen to like the coverage of MLS’s best player who happens to be on loan.

      • Sgc

        February 12, 2010 at 3:34 pm

        Did they cover what he did when he was actually in MLS? We already have a, thanks.

  25. CA

    February 12, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Sounds like we’re all in agreement that LD should make a permanent move to the EPL. The only barrier to this happening is MLS, as LD is is their American star. I think MLS is going to want 12-15 Million for LD and I’m not sure Everton(or any other Euro team) is willing to spend that much money on a 28 year old American.

    • Charles

      February 12, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      Wrong. I am an American soccer fan. I would much rather watch him in person than on illegal internet stream that goes blank every five minutes….see yesterdays game for a great example.
      I dont think that the non big four can sign him and they don’t have interest yet, but we will see. Lot of money in the EPL.

  26. GED Polyglot

    February 12, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    “Watching Donovan spend another season ripping up the back line of the Kansas City Wizards or the Colorado Rapids will not be nearly as entertaining.”

    When exactly did Donovan rip up the Rapids back line? He’s scored a whopping one (1) goal against the Rapids in his entire career during MLS regular/post season games.

  27. Melissa

    February 12, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    I’m all for donovan playing at Everton… I’m a liverpool fan, and so while I was pleased at the outcome of the derby last weekend, I’m glad to see Landon playing well. I visit Liverpool quite frequently to see friends, and it would be awesome to see him playing there. EPL is the best league out there, and it will serve Landon and the USMNT well to see him stay there. Altho, Moyes has explicitly stated that he doesn’t see it turning into a permanent thing at the end of his loan.

  28. Oh_yeah

    February 12, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    It is about time that he finally is playing in Europe. Everton is a perfect fit for him. He should do a permanent transfer after this coming MLS season is over.

  29. Dan

    February 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Donovan is perfect for Everton. I am a huge Galaxy fan and we need to let him go for the sake of our national team. The problem is we now need to replace him and no one in MLS can do that. We need a 2nd DP slot to truly do that and that man would be Henry

  30. King Calcio

    February 12, 2010 at 11:43 am

    They are not ‘Tonians. They are Toffies.

    • Eric Altshule

      February 12, 2010 at 12:39 pm

      Actually, the team is nicknamed the “Toffees,” not “Toffies.” The fans are often referred to as Evertonians:

      To say that the Toffees were chanting USA as Donovan took a cornerkick would be to imply that Phil Neville, Louis Saha and the rest of the team were doing the chanting – a pleasant thought but highly unlikely event.

  31. Charles

    February 12, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Everton fans don’t realize that US soccer is going nowhere fast.
    I read the Red Bulls have sold 6,000 season ticket so far.
    Our big hope for the World Cup scoring is Jozy, scoring 1 goal for a team about to be relagated.

    Almost all the US Soccer fans want LD to play in Europe, pulling out the better for the National Team card. Give me a break…yeah, his play is really suffering playing here. It is because they don’t watch MLS. Period.

    It is not because of an inferiority complex. That was a pretty funny line.
    Why did you need to say that ? Because you are trying to make it true.
    It is not. The “I hope Landon does great in Europe to give us validation comments” run rampant on sites like this.

    US Soccer fans = Inferiority complex

    Landon leaving will crush MLS. I don’t usually insult people, but if you don’t think that, you are a moron.

    • TOM

      February 13, 2010 at 12:34 am

      the reason why the Red Bulls have sold only 6000 tix thus far are for 2 reasons:

      1) uncertainty of MLS even beginning the new season amids the problems with the conclution of the labor agreement

      2) dismal performance of the New York squad the last season around, many fans were sitting around with the bags over their heads….

      I’m sure number would change drastically should they conclude the labor talks successfully and b) managing to sign a player of a Raul sort from Real Madrid….

      • Charles

        February 14, 2010 at 3:44 pm

        I hope so.
        Read the posts though,
        most of the people in this blog ( and ohers ) would rather that Raul plays in the British league however.

    • David

      February 17, 2010 at 10:28 pm

      Charles, I couldn’t disagree with you more. US soccer has been growing every year. Investors have been lining up to buy in. At all but the worst teams, attendance remains decent in this bad economy. And MLS now serves a critical purpose for US soccer. I have posted this before, but in a nutshell it creates an opportunity for Americans to play professionally. Prior to MLS, maybe a dozen could do that. Now hundreds can. That, coupled with the national training program (developed over the last 15 years), a viable second division, and youth development teams means that the generation of athletes now growing up sees soccer as a viable career. More kids playing means a better pool of talent, which ultimately means better play both domestically and internationally. And it works in part precisely because MLS is a feeder league where guys like Donovan, Dempsey, Altidore, etc can develop their talent before moving on to bigger contracts.

      The USMNT is still not stellar, but the future is bright. Altidore is not our best hope. He is a kid and the future of the team. We were looking to Davies to score the goals and will now look to Donovan or Dempsey. And in eight years we’ll be able to look to all those thousands of kids now in middle school who finally believe they can play soccer all their lives.

  32. Don

    February 12, 2010 at 10:25 am

    I agree a 100% that he should stay with Everton. I am a huge Galaxy fan, (season ticket holder until last year) but I want nothing more than to see him play in the EPL. I follow Man Utd, but to be quite honest, I am more excited to see Everton play each week. I’ve also ordered a Donovan Everton jersey. (the away kit, their home jersey is hideous.)

  33. Brian

    February 12, 2010 at 10:24 am

    “Torture Ashley Cole?”

    You were obviously dreaming – all of LD’s opportunities either came against the CB’s or after Cole had left the game.

    • SSReporters

      February 12, 2010 at 10:53 am

      On a technicality he did. Fractured his ankle. 😉

  34. The Gentleman Masher

    February 12, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Amen, Bella! The MLS needs to get to the point where losing one guy doesn’t kill the league!

    I think it’s almost to the that point…you have great players in the league, and when someone leaves, new people eventually step up. The more MLSers that go overseas, the more opportunities there are for young MLSers to get their chance to shine.

    Building this kind of depth is far more important than having one guy be the ticket draw. That’s the NBA model, and I’d rather the MLS not emulate that. I don’t think it has…and I think most MLS fans are now to the point where the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back…and that’s the way all successful sports leagues are…be it EPL, NFL, or even the major college conferences.

    Also – having guys like Donovan, Dempsey, Howard, Bradley, Edu, Beasley…even non-Yanks like Ryan Nelsen…consistently contribute overseas is the best kind of marketing MLS can have in that it can entice young players from all over the world to consider playing there!

    • Charles

      February 12, 2010 at 10:36 am

      How is having the whole US national team NOT play in your league, replacing them with inferior players, helping your league ?

      I think you just said that young players all over the world will consider playing in Europe…and that will help MLS ?

      • The Gentleman Masher

        February 12, 2010 at 10:48 am


        Re-read my post…I said young players all over the world will be more likely to consider playing in MLS if they know it’s a league where they can move on to one of the big leagues!

        Of course – it’s more likely just going to be kids from this hemisphere…

        Anyway – having our entire National Team playing in one league will not help us. MLS isn’t selling more tickets because Donovan is still here, and it won’t sell more if Dempsey comes back…our National Team playing well because they’re being challenged in better leagues, and are getting better, will be much better marketing for soccer in America.

        For MLS to succeed, long term, we need to develop soccer fans in this country, not MLS or US National Team fans.

        • Charles

          February 12, 2010 at 11:41 am

          I appreciate your point of view. But soccer fans are already here.
          If the US National team plays, tickets are sold.

          Last year Barcelona and Chelsea did tours. 100,000 in LA.
          Sold out 67,000 in Seattle.
          MLS games = 20k in LA and 30k in Seattle.

          MLS is inferior, considered way inferior and thus not supported.
          Landon leaving will not help that image.

          • The Gentleman Masher

            February 12, 2010 at 2:07 pm

            Nothing will change that image. American Soccer fans aren’t stupid…they know where the best players go. Just like European Basketball fans know the best players don’t play there…

            You are an MLS fan…and you probably live in LA or an MLS market. You might get to see Landon once or twice a year in person. Even if he went overseas, you could still do that with the National Team.

            I live in Atlanta, I don’t care if LA draws 20k, or Seattle draws 30k. Many other cities in the league struggle to consistently break 15k…

          • Jay

            August 23, 2010 at 2:32 pm

            Charles: Can’t look at just the numbers. There’s too many people that look at just the numbers. Don’t you realize that Home Depot Center only holds 23,000 and seattle only sells a portion of big stadium that consistently sells out? and they bloc off the rest. Friendly games with clubs are are higher profile and they can fill the Rose Bowl (100,000) and Quest Field (67,000). Look what they did with ManU vs. the MLS All stars. Complete dud of a game but sold 75,000 tix to fill Reliant Stadium, and not that broken down college field where the Dynamo play that only holds like 11,000 total. The straight up numbers aren’t fair to look at because certain teams play in places that hold hardly anyone but they sell the games out -even if only 10,000.

          • Charles

            August 23, 2010 at 2:57 pm

            That is funny that you are posting on a post from February predicting that Landon will LEAVE.

            Eric ? Still think he has seen Paris and doesn’t want to leave ?
            Or maybe he thought MLS was Paris ?

            Compared to playing at Everton it IS Paris in my mind.
            5 points back with 2 games played are they out of it, or do we have to wait for end of Sept ?

          • Abram

            August 23, 2010 at 4:41 pm

            The Gentleman Masher, a lot of NBA (9 clubs) and NHL (11 teams) teams struggle to break 15k consistently. The only two sports that regularly breaks 15K are baseball and American football. MLS’s average attendance number for this season is only 425 less than the 2009-2010 NHL and only 552 less than the 2009-2010 NBA attendance average.

            Not bad considering both the NBA and NHL have been ingrained into the American public for 70 or so years and MLS has only been here for the past 16 or so.

  35. Bella

    February 12, 2010 at 8:55 am

    BTW, its not even necessary to bring up Beckham when discussing a permanent move for Donovan, its just another excuse to stir up an old debate that I thought was well put to rest by the end of last season. Move on.

    Regarding the Everton match, even after playing USA v Mexico, its a shock the first time everyone plays in that derby. None of the team, nor Mr Moyes’ tactics, were at their best so it would have been even more difficult for an initiate to take the lead.

  36. vermaelen5

    February 12, 2010 at 6:04 am

    I’m all for Donovan staying in England. As much as I love our domestic league, the best thing for American soccer is for our best players to take opportunities to play in the EPL. I could care less if the MLS is a “feeder league.” I’ll support my team just the same no matter what the talent level is, but I want to see Americans playing big roles in Europe.

    • MikeinTN

      February 12, 2010 at 8:22 am

      Totally on target vermaelen5 ! Let Landon represent us all in England…he has earned it. Like you, I support the Crew regardless of their level of play. Just like the Dutch league….if our best go overseas to play…I will support those who stay behind to the hilt! Because they are OUR team.

      • Bella

        February 12, 2010 at 8:48 am

        As many people have noted, Brazil and Argentina may be the biggest “feeder leagues” in the world and, while we are sad not to be able to see some of our best at home, we enjoy seeing them play beautifully wherever they are, and our full stadiums still enjoy excellent football at home, thank you. U.S. soccer doesn’t need to hang on to its best, it just needs the time to keep developing and accepting that finding players it can afford from around the world will only help raise the level and versatility of American players.

        • Charles

          February 12, 2010 at 10:41 am

          You are comparing Brazil and Argentina to the US.
          You realize that right ?

          Brazil and Argentina have VERY successful teams/leagues, with great in number and quality of players and fans.
          They have won the FIFA Club World Cup 1/2 of the times it has been played.

          Oh yeah, their national teams are a little better too.

          • Bella

            February 12, 2010 at 2:48 pm

            That was my point. The best players in the world are playing outside of their own countries and its no insult to their leagues. The MLS will improve as soccer becomes a revenue sport — even more crucially in college than pro so that 1) more of the country’s best athletes will stick with it past H.S., 2) player salaries are high enough to attract young talent from the rest of the world. That plus time.

          • FIRE GUY 19

            February 14, 2010 at 9:53 am

            Hey guy, do u know anything about the argenina soccer league? The league has many teams and river plate and boca jrs have won most of the titles in history! With the exception here and there with teams like velez estudiantes and rosario! As of late! If MLS would play teams in brazil or Argentina I bet you that this league would be consider a good league as well! But its ok right now! The league is advancing at a pace that it will soon be up there atop with the big boys!!! Even if it will be a feeder league

        • Charles

          February 12, 2010 at 10:53 pm

          Not gonna happen in my lifetime. Unless we can keep talent at home, fans won’t show and talent will go elsewhere ( other sports )
          In Brazil and Argentina, the top athletes all go to soccer, maybe a few to basketball and/or volleyball, but in the US, forget it.

          There will be 40,000 people at the Sounders games this year. Not one of them is showing up because Marcus Hahnneman played for the Sounders and now plays in the EPL.

        • Charles

          February 12, 2010 at 10:53 pm

          Not gonna happen in my lifetime. Unless we can keep talent at home, fans won’t show and talent will go elsewhere ( other sports )
          In Brazil and Argentina, the top athletes all go to soccer, maybe a few to basketball and/or volleyball, but in the US, forget it.

          There will be 40,000 people at the Sounders games this year. Not one of them is showing up because Marcus Hahnneman played for the Sounders and now plays in the EPL.

  37. william davies

    February 12, 2010 at 3:18 am

    What Landon offers to Everton is something different to what you are all thinking, it’s not merely what he can do on the pitch, yes he is good on the ball, lightning fast down the wing and possess the ability to take on defenders and he gives the team balance. (something we at Goodison have not seen prob since we bought a Russian off the UTD)

    what he offers that is a little different from most is professionalism, the guy oozes what a professional footballer should be like add to the the marketing opportunities a player like Landon can offer it makes him an ideal player for a team such as Everton.

    Any more hidden gems?

    • Tim

      February 12, 2010 at 7:11 pm

      Landon was hidden in plain sight. There could be some special players coming up, but the best crop of players in this generation of American footballers have all made their moves aboard.

  38. ben

    February 12, 2010 at 3:11 am

    Donovan was not shocking v Liverpool. The whole team played poorly, a huge disappointment after the superb displays v Arsenal and Man City. Great effort v Chelsea puts us back on track though. Donovan has slotted into the team like a dream. I can’t remember anyone fitting in so well so quickly anywhere to be honest. Right midfield has been a weak spot for us for years – I don’t think Osman cuts it there consistently enough – and Donovan looks like the solution with his pace, ball skills, beautiful corner kicks and excellent work ethic, something Moyes demands. When we had Osman and Hibbert on the right, every team knew that was how to get to us, and this was brutally demonstrated in the FA Cup Final last year v Chelsea. Donovan’s speed and tenacity has really helped shut down that flank. We need to sign him to a permanent deal, yesterday!

  39. Iain Harvey`

    February 12, 2010 at 1:30 am


    For all your comments, i think he was SHOCKING against Liverpool, had a few moments, but was a lot more of a passenger than anyone would care to admit. i am not sold on him as a player, and for me a full season would be a much better barometer of how good he allegedly is. For me personally, i would much rather have a player like Clint Dempsey. Just my two cents

    • jleau

      February 12, 2010 at 1:44 am

      He was in no way “SHOCKING” against Liverpool. He did not have a huge impact (i don’t think Everton as a team were particularly good) but his play was not the reason the game was lost.

      Donovan has earned some criticism over his career, but comments like this can’t even be taken seriously. Was he a passenger or was he shocking, logically he really can’t be both.

    • Ali

      February 12, 2010 at 7:14 pm

      The liverpool defenders had him in their pockets.

      • Steve

        February 13, 2010 at 8:50 pm

        What game did you watch? While Everton played poorly, Liverpool kept their right midfielder pushed out wide, and the right back stayed at home rarely making any runs into Everton’s side. This is a common tactic in football to make the other team play through the middle or the opposite flank. Liverpool played to their strength, the middle with Gerrard and actually showed Donovan repsect by not allowing space on the right side of the pitch. In fact Liverpool were lucky to win the game, only due to a terrible lack of concentration by Howard worrying about Kuyt and not watching the ball.

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