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US 0-3 Germany World Cup Match: Live Analysis


US National Team starters for today game on ESPN Classic:

Perk, Mayen, Opara, Gale, Davies; Powers, Jeffrey, Mix; Shea, Ownby, Taylor

Kyle Davies of FC Dallas (formely of Southampton) captains the US side.

Listen to our recent interview with Miami FC and US starter defender Gale here.

As always, reader interaction is encouraged!

I wonder why the U-20s which captured the imagination of the football fans in the US two years ago is going largely un-noticed by some this go round? Could it be in 2009, our fans are further in the clutches of the British press who ignores tournaments like this that the English hardly qualify for than they were in 2007 and 2005.

The US has relieved the initial pressure but Germany is maintaining the possession.

US 0-1 Germany:

Ownby’s foul in the box gives the Germans a PK, which is converted. Ownby was under pressure but did not need to foul on that occasion in the box.

US 0-2 Germany:

The US fails to clear the corner and the midfield doesn’t close down the space at the top of the area leading to a disastrous second goal in three minutes.


If anything, the scoreline flatters the USA. Germany has been on the front foot all evening long, and the US has looked overwhelmed, outclassed and at times disinterested.

That this performance is coming against a German team that suffered from several late withdrawals at the request of Bundesliga clubs is even more humiliating. The US has kept its side fairly intact since the Spring and this team has lots of experience playing together. The best US player has been Tony Taylor, who this week signed with Miami FC, but the lack of service he has received from the midfield has limited his effectiveness.

The US doing a better job controlling the ball in the early stages of the second half with the Germans content to defend. But the US linkup play is till poor and the one real good chance for a goal by Jorge Flores after a nice setup from substitue Bryan Arguez is dealt with by the German keeper.

US 0-3 Germany:

The Germans score on a counter attack. The third goal has been coming for sometime as the US blew a few chances to get back into the match.

Further proof that possession stats lie……the US and Germany are tied 50-50 on possesion according to the FIFA stat just flashed on the telecast. But no statistic exists for good possession.


The US performance was simply not acceptable for a competitive match at this level. A lack of organization and link up play were apparent from the first minute, despite the fact that this team has been together between residency and the national team for years. The 3-0 scoreline looks bad, but the performance was quite possibly worse than the final score would indicate.

The three best players for the US were goalkeeper Brian Perk who was hung out to dry by his fullbacks and bad giveaways almost a dozen times in this game, Gale the center back from Miami FC who snuffed out several German chances and second half sub Bryan Arguez whose insertion at halftime allowed the US to produce a good spell from minutes 45-60.

Otherwise, the US play was poor. Brek Shea showed flashes but not enough to really threaten the Germans. Tony Taylor was left on an island all alone, and Ownby was truly forgettable.

Thomas Rongen must pick up this sides confidence with two tough games remaining in the group versus Cameroon and South Korea. The US has made a habit of knocking off big teams and advancing deep in this tournament. Sadly, 2009 looks like that trend will not continue.

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  1. Rongen Must Go

    September 28, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Kartik, does it shock you as much as it does me that so many of our fans are in constant denial? To think I and many others gave up the Premier League and La Liga to watch that crap Saturday morning.

    When are we going to hire a real coach, with real experience from outside this freaking country? Rongen has been coaching and failing here in Florida for 20 years!

    US Soccer = Cronyism, Nepotism, Corruption.

  2. Ray

    September 28, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Typical anti US stuff from Kartik.

    Forweg, the big question is when will Kartik stop obsessing on other CONCACAF countries and admit we are the best in the region without question?

    52-48 in possession. We controlled the game and just got unlucky. Kartik used to claim we could never hold the ball against better teams but now like the hypocrite, knee jerk anti US soccer, pro USL and Houston Dynamo person he is, he says possession stats don’t matter. If this entire team played in USL or for DC United we’d hear how good they are.

    Still, he singled out the DC guys for praise and has no Houston or DC guys to praise.

  3. forweg

    September 28, 2009 at 2:42 am

    The most pressing question is:

    Will Kartik ever get over his anti-England obsession?

  4. Soccer Guru

    September 27, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    We’ve traditionally done very well in this tournament and this performance has many of us concerned not only about the tournament but what is going on in Bradenton, how we are choosing our teams and about our youth development system in general. To say that was a horrible performance is an understatement.

  5. Eric

    September 27, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Another point:

    It could have been really embarrassing had Germany finished several early opportunities on us.

    It’s night and day comparing their system to ours. Every one of their players knows his part, even with only a couple of days together in Egypt, and it shows. It’s the same from the top down, and it produces quality.

    This is the fault of the Federation which rewards loyalty and to a certain degree submission, over quality.

  6. Eric

    September 27, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    It’s pretty shocking to see the lack of outrage in the US soccer community after this result. I think this summer, despite the high of beating Spain has gotten us used to lopsided scorelines against top national teams. Worst loss ever to Brazil, right Kartik? Italy it was the second worst? And I think you said worst loss ever since the 50s against Mexico, right?

    The fact we beat Brazil in this tournament in 2007 and Argentina in 2005 is lost on our new fans who don’t realize we are regressing badly. I fully expected to win yesterday, and given Germany’s late withdrawals and conflicts with Bundesliga clubs, it all set up well for us. We caught them at the perfect time and got wiped out.

    Any thoughts on that terrible 4-3-3?

  7. Larry

    September 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    All this gloom and doom and naysayer stuff makes me sick. Kartik thinks possession means nothing, but in the past we’d get annihilated in possession stats- Argentina dominated us 2 to 1 in possession when we beat them in 2005. Barrett’s goal was against the run of play on a set piece. Now we can control the ball and control the midfield.

    We were just unlucky yesterday. As for Peter Osgood, who are these CONCACAF opponent players you reference? Honduras’ best player, Amado Guevara is less effective in MLS than ever. Mexico has Dos Santos sitting on the bench at Spurs. Jozy and Dempsey actually play in the Premier League. Honduras and Mexico has no one playing there. I don’t know of a single Honduras player doing anything in Europe. Why do Kartik and his posters make these things up?

    I don’t think a single Premiership or Cup goal has been scored this year by a non American in CONCACAF.

    Oh and Osgood, Rongen is the coach because he is really good with youngsters and can evaluate talent well. He understands talent and the development of players. Our teams are well organized and getting better every day. His record speaks for itself. We have advanced out of the Group stages of 11 consecutive youth tournaments. Does England have that record? Spain? Even Italy? Argentina, the two time champs didn’t even qualify this time. Our youth development programs are the envy of the soccer world.

    Moreover, this was just the first game. We still have six points out there and I expect to advance easily as we always do.

    • CIRE 55

      September 27, 2009 at 3:37 pm

      You must not have watched the Hondurans yesterday for Wigan versus Chelsea. And have you ever heard of Kenwyne Jones? He’s scored a few this year in the Prem, including today.

      Some of our fans are so clueless it is not worth even talking about.

      As for yesterday it was a disgrace. Only Americans hide behind stats. that is for losers, which we certainly are becoming in this sport under Gulati, Bradley and Rongen.

  8. Marc Lemis

    September 27, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Thomas Rongen obviously did not do a good job in getting the team to play like a team. Let’s face it the Europeans and the South Americans, at least as of now, are more skillful players. Hence, how do you overcome that deficiency? The only way is to play them very tight with simple ball passing and trying to keep possession. As someone else pointed out, the senior team and this team cannot keep the ball for very long and the passing, crossing has a lot to be desired. The Americans have got to play simple balls, very tight defense and avoid at all costs in giving up the ball too easy and attempt to score on set pieces and/or counter attacks.

  9. peter osgood

    September 27, 2009 at 12:41 am

    Rongen = Ridiculous.

    Same old retreads who occasionaly get lucky in one tournament with a talented side who gets to the knock-out stages due to their own skill, but then there isn’t a manager with the tactics to see them through – Argentina, in Rongen’s case.

    And yet, they get hugely important gigs over and over and over and everyone at US Soccer gets to feel in control and sleep soundly at night.

    Honduras are phenomenally motivated to win the next match, have several players playing huge roles for their European sides whilst major US players cant get on the pitch every week. Then it’s a Costa Rican side that made the brave move and changed their manager who will be fighting for their very lives last match of the Hex. And perhaps, even the Costa Rican US based population will outdraw the hosts.

    Will be a white knuckle ride come October. And of course, we all want to see us through safely to South Africa, but with this setup – still no major replacement for first assistant to Bob Bradley – do people really beleive some great run will occur?

  10. kyle

    September 26, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    Bad display, at least the U17 group has some promising players.

  11. LDR

    September 26, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Arguez should start the next game. He was more effective as a holding mid than anybody in the first half.

    As far as El Sueno, all the hype is worn off. Can you believe this team with the same exact guys beat Mexico 3-0 last year? I for one, cannot.

  12. Soccer John

    September 26, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    We can claim this team is not very good, but this World Cup features alot of guys from European clubs that have skipped. Actually we have an advantage with so many of our guys in college, PDL, MLS and USL.

    These sorts of performances are shameful and borderline embarrassing for the program. Some of our “Fans” may claim this tournament does not matter, but it does, in a big way. Playing like this just doesn’t hurt morale but makes us look bad on the world stage.

    Let’s hope we bounce back Tuesday.

  13. Tony

    September 26, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Kartik- I’m curious to get your take on Rongen’s tactics and the lack of attacking possession we had. It seemed we came out to play for a draw and got burned badly.

  14. KD

    September 26, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    I taped the game so I could watch the EPL.

    Speechless is how this US team has left me. Coaching, tactics and the players themselves all a massive FAIL.

    Will the next game be different? I doubt it.

  15. SAWR

    September 26, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    What we lack is composure on the ball in midfield and the ability to link up with the attackers. This is not just a current U-20 problem but outside of Landon our attacking mids don’t shield or hold the ball well or knock the ball into space well. We always need a tall target guy to play off of, and distribution from our backs. The way we play is flawed.

  16. Roy J.

    September 26, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    What a disheartening performance. Hopefully we beat Cameroon.

  17. Joseph S.

    September 26, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Did you realize Germany had a bunch of guys withdraw late at the clubs request? The situation is right now due to Bradenton and bad coaches.

  18. L D

    September 26, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    A really bad performance. You can say no jozy and Freddy, but when you play with no style and no purpose you can never beat a team the caliber of Germany.

    US Soccer from top to bottom has issues. We see that even when we win games.

  19. Daniel Feuerstein

    September 26, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Absolutly terrible.

  20. Julius

    September 26, 2009 at 11:25 am

    This U-20 team plays without any organization or style in the attack just like the older US team. The US keeps getting beat to balls and many times fail to complete simple passes. Those are aspects of the game I would not expect a US squad to be lacking.

  21. Brian Zygo

    September 26, 2009 at 10:55 am

    I agree Peter, the lack of well known players on this squad means it is flying under the radar this year.

  22. Greg

    September 26, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Pasu is really giving us difficulty.

    Then again, everything looks difficult.

  23. Peter C

    September 26, 2009 at 10:10 am

    “I wonder why the U-20s which captured the imagination of the football fans in the US two years ago is going largely un-noticed”

    No Freddie, no Jozy, no early victory over Brasil.

    Just my speculation.

  24. Phillip

    September 26, 2009 at 10:07 am

    Defense looks shaky early.

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