Connect with us


The US and CONCACAF: No Longer Dominant


Not long ago, the United States could rightfully claim domination over CONCACAF. Mexico was suffering a crisis of confidence under an arrogant, chin smoking foreign coach. At the same time US had won the Gold Cup again and were cruising through the Hex with 18 points through 7 games, and easy World Cup qualification. The year was 2005*.

But the next year, Mexico advanced further in the World Cup than the US, and lowly Trinidad and Tobago, who finished 4th in the Hex actually showed better than the USA at the World Cup even if the scores of the games do not indicate such. Calls were abound for the US to hire a foreign manager or a quasi foreigner like Jurgen Klinsmann.

But the US stood pat, and the decision to hire Bob Bradley appeared to be a good one initially, with the US winning the Gold Cup again in 2007. But World Cup qualification has been far from smooth for the US. Road struggles against the likes of Guatemala and Cuba in the previous round have given way to dropped points against El Salvador and horrific displays of football in Costa Rica and Mexico.

Yes, the United States is still unbeatable on home soil against CONCACAF opposition. But the US has been outscored on the road versus CONCACAF opposition in qualifying by nine goals to seven, which is an alarming statistic for a side that claimed to be so dominant in the region not long ago.

Honduras, is a team that features three solid Premiership players including Wilson Palacios, the region’s most expensive player and two outstanding Serie A stars including David Suazo, arguably the region’s best player.

When Honduras plays its “A” team, they can compete with the USA, even on American soil. With Suazo returning after a long injury in September, the Hondurans have to be fancied to close the Hex in a much stronger position than they have been in this summer.

Mexico, for all the 2-0 losses to the US have found their footing against the Yanks since 2007. Andres Guardado’s goal in the 2007 Gold Cup final was the first for a Mexican player on American soil versus the USA since 1999, a span of eight games.  Eight months later, a 2-2 draw in Houston was the first result for Mexico on American soil versus the US since 1999.

The 2-0 USA win in Columbus this February in qualifying deserves an asterisk. Mexico, not only was missing some of its best players through suspension or injury but also was dealing with the idiosyncratic player selection of Sven Goran Eriksson which included starting several naturalized players, such as Mathias Vuoso who had no business ever suiting up for El Tri.

Still the United States won that game, and deserved credit for beating a desperate and hungry Mexican team, even if it was legitimately not the best Mexican team.

But now, in less than three week, Mexico has dominated the United States twice, once in the US and once at the Azteca. The US “C” team in the Gold Cup was beaten badly by a Mexican “B” team that featured the likes Fausto Pinto and Alberto Medina in the starting XI. Now the US has been soundly beaten by a Mexican team that was missing Pavel Pardo and Rafa Marquez, the two most accomplished active Mexican players in European club football.

No doubt that the United States is still at or near the top of the heap in CONCACAF. But the days have passed, when the United States could rightly claim domination over the region and now Bob Bradley’s side must fight like dogs to reclaim the mantle of regional superpower.

* It is worth noting that Mexico beat eventual champion, Brazil in the 2005 Confederations Cup Group Stage, a victory that much like the US win over Spain in the 2009 Confederations Cup has to be viewed as a one off/isolated event in the larger picture of world football. Mexico in 2005, save that one victory was struggling. The United States, save that one victory in 2009 is also struggling.

200+ Channels With Sports & News
  • Starting price: $33/mo. for fubo Latino Package
  • Watch Premier League, World Cup, Euro 2024 & more
  • Includes NBC, USA, FOX, ESPN, CBSSN & more
Live & On Demand TV Streaming
  • Price: $69.99/mo. for Entertainment package
  • Watch World Cup, Euro 2024 & MLS
  • Includes ESPN, ESPN2, FS1 + local channels
Many Sports & ESPN Originals
  • Price: $6.99/mo. (or get ESPN+, Hulu & Disney+ for $13.99/mo.)
  • Features Bundesliga, LaLiga, Championship, & more
  • Also includes daily ESPN FC news & highlights show
2,000+ soccer games per year
  • Price: $4.99/mo
  • Features Champions League, Serie A, Europa League & NWSL
  • Includes CBS, Star Trek & CBS Sports HQ
175 Premier League Games & PL TV
  • Starting price: $4.99/mo. for Peacock Premium
  • Watch 175 exclusive EPL games per season
  • Includes Premier League TV channel plus movies, TV shows & more


  1. Ace

    August 15, 2009 at 12:25 pm


  2. Andrew

    August 14, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    We’re in good shape- we still are the best team in CONCACAF by a wide margin.

    As for the Torres stuff, he doesn’t start for Pachuca. Granted that is the top club in the region, but he’s still not playing as regularly as Kljestan, Holden or Clark. That is the bottom line.

    • MEXICO>usa

      August 15, 2009 at 5:00 pm

      You are NOT the best team in the Concacaf. You’re an idiot. Mexico is the best.

      And I agree that the others should play instead of the Mexican. He’s an idiot if he wants to play for racists like you

    • Fernando

      August 15, 2009 at 6:10 pm

      if you are still the best team in CONCACAF by a “wide margin” …then why are you in 3rd place in the WC qualifier? …i´m just asking…

  3. Zac

    August 14, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Is torres the most overrated player in US history or what? from all these comments about how it was the wrong move not to start torres or that he should be playing over bradley people make it sound like hes kaka sitting on our bench… seriously what has he ever done to prove he should be starting for US? he blew it his last time he started and he dosent even start for his club team yet. its almost like people are racist thinking hes from mexico he must be skilled…. give him some time first to proove something!

  4. Yankeehooligan

    August 14, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    For all of you killing poor Lando, you should be ashamed:
    He had swine flu on Wednesday.

  5. USA!

    August 14, 2009 at 1:09 am

    There are two ways to contact Sunil Gulati.

    The first is via US Soccer — where there are gatekeepers of various sorts.

    The second is via his academic appointment at Columbia University. His email there is:

  6. MikeinTN

    August 13, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Would sitting out this upcoming World Cup set us back or spring us forward? If it would…I’d be willing to see it happen.

    • Jammer

      August 14, 2009 at 12:34 am

      Set us back.

  7. Gods own Country

    August 13, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Does anyone have gulati’s email address?

  8. TheseColorsDoNotRun

    August 13, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Bob Bradley is Sunil’s big mistake.

    Bradley appears to be gracious and composed — a good person. Undoubtedly, he does the best he can. So there should be no nastiness directed towards the man.

    But Bradley is out of his depth against world class managers. He is conservative to a fault. His team selections, his substitutions, and his tactics are not up to par.

    Yesterday we got the magic of Brian Ching for an hour and 15 minutes of Jozy Altidore. We got Spector on the bench, while inferior players — Bocanegra and Cherundolo — played in defense. We saw our midfield get comprehensively outclassed and unable to maintain possession. Neither Clark nor Bradley imposed themselves on the game. And neither of them has what it takes to run an offense from central midfield. Meanwhile Gringo Torres, a kid who can play in tight quarters and do something with the ball, once again sat on the bench.

    People say Torres has done little for the national team. But the principal reason is that Bradley spent half the summer giving Sasha Kljestan — Sasha Kljestan!!! — repeated chances to show he does not belong on the field. The fact that he has been given such limited opportunities boggles belief.

    A draw yesterday would have been a great result. But we didn’t just lose, we got our butts handed to us.

    Some time ago I corresponded with Professor Gulati. I indicated that I would send him flowers if he secured the services of Guus Hiddink starting in 2011. (To his credit, Sunil was classy enough to respond, even if only to give me platitudes about the program’s progress.)

    Gulati needs to get the message from fans and journos:

    We need a world class coach. We won’t settle for less. The current state of affairs is not acceptable.

  9. Alex

    August 13, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    “I agree too, afte we got that first goal, I was praying that we did not just sit back and defend”

    Really? Isn’t that what game strategy is every time they play against Mexico? Actually, it would have been strange to see it happen otherwise. USA’s game style is too defensive and “ugly” looking. It’s been like that since I can remember. USA is a well organized team that’s good on counterattacks; they will only attack unless they are losing the game, and maybe not even then.

    USA temporary ‘dominance’ in the CONCACAF has been more the result of Mexico’s faults than USA’s game.

  10. Rafael

    August 13, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    U.S. Soccer needs Kinnear or Klinsmann to coach the National Team right now.
    We do not need to repeat the error of ’98 when Sampson was allowed to stay on when a change was needed.

  11. Yankeehooligan

    August 13, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Wow, did I stumble onto or something. A loss in Azteca was expected. I hardly call a 2-1 scorline “being dominated.” If not for Davies mistiming his dive, it might have been 2-2. The sky is not falling. The U.S. will qualify easily. The hardest game left is against Honduras. Mexico absolutely had to win that match. Now if you want to criticize the U.S.’s away record, I’m on board with that. Bradley has never been a coach that wins games away from American soil (or his MLS clubs home stadium if you go back to his (Chivas/Chicago/NY days). The issues yesterday were a pathetic showing by Brian Ching; Donovan trying to rely on the referees too much and the U.S.’s poor defending on the flanks. All fixable problems. Take a deep breath and put the gun down. I’d love to see the USSF hire someone other than Bradley, but I don’t think U.S. fans should panic.

    • Gods own Country

      August 13, 2009 at 4:56 pm

      “I’d love to see the USSF hire someone other than Bradley”

      I agree too, afte we got that first goal, I was praying that we did not just sit back and defend. Every knew that Mexico was gonna score in due time. I like bob and hes a good coach, but not good enough. And i think its time the USSF realise that fact. I hope after the world cup next year that we get a non MLS coach.

      • Jammer

        August 14, 2009 at 12:33 am

        In my opinion, US’ best game all year was Egypt 3-0. In that game, they had to win by 3 goals to advance. So they came out aggressively and didn’t let up the whole 90 minutes until they had 3 goals. That is how they should play every game. Instead they hunker down defensively so as to try to hold on to a 1 goal lead or even play for a tie, but they aren’t able to hold possession and it becomes a rout. What I have seen in the last 2 first-team games is they come out hard until they get a goal then they give up. (Against Brazil they got a second goal on a counter attack.) And really the Spain game was not so different but they managed to hold on.

        If they are not pushing forward they get cornered on their own half and are pathetic.

    • TheseColorsDoNotRun

      August 13, 2009 at 7:41 pm

      So here’s my response:

      I agree — the sky is not falling. We should qualify. We might even progress out of the group stages in 2010. Unlikely but certainly possible.

      That said, I think Bradley’s tenure is a slow motion disaster. Brian Ching should never have started. The fact that he went 1 hour while Jozy went 15 minutes — it beggars belief. Similarly, Spector is simply better than either Bocanegra or Cherundolo — but sat on the bench. Gringo Torres…well…I have given my two cents on him before. The way Bradley repeatedly played Kljestan over Torres this summer represents a huge, stunning wasted opportunity. On what planet is Kljestan anywhere near the player Torres is? Torres could have been integrated. And now the whole qualifying process is turning out to be very tight…

      • Yankeehooligan

        August 14, 2009 at 8:54 am

        Torres is a nice player but let’s not Adu the kid. He might be better than Kljestan but it’s hard to judge him while he’s sitting on the bench. I agree that Bradley wasted opportunity after opportunity to inject new blood in this team. It wasn’t too long ago that he was still calling up Frankie Hejduk and Eddie Lewis. Now with 2010 just a year away, he has little time to find sufficient depth for this team, particularly in defense.

  12. Greg

    August 13, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I don’t agree that CONCACAF is the weakest region outside of Oceania. In terms of depth, maybe, but the top six teams in CONCACAF are stronger than that of Asia and arguable Africa.

    2nd I dont think US has LOST its dominance. Yes, its been through a rough patch, but the only result out of the ordinary for the US in qualifying was El Salvador.

    We always lose to Costa Rica and Mexico away.

    The 18pts from 7 games didnt include Costa Rica away.

    • LI Matt

      August 13, 2009 at 4:21 pm

      The 18pts from 7 games didnt include Costa Rica away.

      THANK YOU.

      The difference between the ’09 Hex and the ’05 Hex at this point is 100% due to scheduling. Costa Rica away was game #9 in ’05. Also, we had played T&T twice.

      Swap Honduras in for Panama and swap El Salvador in for Guatemala, and the results are identical.

      • Kartik Krishnaiyer

        August 13, 2009 at 5:41 pm

        Actually, I have to disagree.

        The draw against Guatemala was at home and after we had qualified- no way we draw that game with an “A” selection. The 3-0 loss at Saprissa was after we qualified.

        Also, I would not swap Panama, a helpless team in 2005 for Honduras, a team that has more players in the top 3 leagues in the world than any other CONCACAF Hex participant other than us. You have to swap Panama for El Salvador, an equally out classed side at this stage.

        Honduras needs to be swapped for Guatemala, who in 2005 was very competitive and almost qualified.

        • LI Matt

          August 14, 2009 at 5:30 am

          The draw in game #8 (9/7/05) was away. Game #3 (3/30/05) was in Brimingham, AL, a 2-0 win with goals by Eddie Johnson and Steve Ralston.

          Anyway, my point was however much we may subjectively look worse than we did in ’05, the results have been basically the same.

          And for all your raving about Honduras’ talent level, we have beaten them three times this year.

          • Kartik Krishnaiyer

            August 14, 2009 at 10:38 am

            They didn’t have Suazo or DeLeon in any of the three games and only Palacios and Figeroua once. Honduras isn’t deep at all. In fact they have only about 8-10 good players, but those 8-10 players are much better than even the top 3 players on Costa Rica, El Salvador or T&T, and arguably better than the top 10 players on Mexico. They don’t have a Landon Donovan quality player or a Tim Howard type keeper, but other than that they are right where we are in terms of their starting XI. Keep an eye on Hendry Thomas at Wigan, this season. He’ll surprise some people.

  13. Gods own Country

    August 13, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Kartik Krishnaiyer I’m not trying to bash you but you seem to change you tone from game to game.

  14. s.y.l.c.

    August 13, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    No one should have expected a win in this game, and a draw was a stretch. Of course, we could have put up a fight but the midfield, including Donovan, didn’t show up for one point, let alone three.

    We were dominant for a few months, but that wasn’t due to our success. It was due to Mexico’s managerial woes. They’ve recovered very quickly and we can’t get any better than this until a change in manager is made which I doubt will happen until after the World Cup (Gulati: “We’re not Mexico.” In other words, we don’t feel the need to improve).

    The rest of CONCACAF has stepped up their game and the hex is more competitive overall. It’s still US and Mexico on top, but if Costa Rica can pick up their form on the road, it’ll be a 3 way fight for dominance, where all 3 teams win a home and lose on the road.

    • Yankeehooligan

      August 13, 2009 at 4:16 pm

      Donovan’s pass to Davies was brilliant, though. He was at least present for that.

  15. pedro

    August 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Mexico still has to prove itself outside the US and Mexico. It won at Azteca and against the US “B” team at Gold Cup. Lets see how it plays outside Mexico in hostile territory like its next game in Costa Rica. We know how it did against El Salvador, who is not exactly a giant killer. They are still in danger of not making it to the World Cup. That is what you get by changing coaches each time you lose a game. Mexico has 4 changes in 3 years. Beating Spain, giving Brazil a scare, losing at Azteca by 1 is not bad for a country that until 10 years ago did not have a professional league and is not supported by most Americans. We are a baby in the soccer universe Please put this lose in perspective in your low skill analysis.

    • Alfredinho

      August 13, 2009 at 10:04 pm

      Good point Pedrito, this is a relatively young sport compared to most other countries.
      Does it mean that just 10 years ago Americans started kicking a ball?
      I guess El Salvador, and Honduras can say “hey the sate of California has more people than each of our countries so were expected to play shitty…”

  16. Berlin

    August 13, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Damn! We were dominant and I missed it?!? I’m back from the ledge after yesterday and truth is, we’re right back where we always were. Beat/draw the bottom feeders away, hold serve at home. Same thing all the other top teams have done. Here’s a crazy idea, maybe CONCACAF is getting better as a whole. Not just decent, but great/good players in great leagues.

  17. Angel

    August 13, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    How can you win a game when you are giving the other team the whole half of the field. Play without any offense just stay back and defend. When player like Landon Donovan is lost and not used guy like Torres who should have made maybe a little different style of game. This game it remind me when USA played against Italy score the first goal and go back and defend. And then happen that they give the ball and have them shoot from a distance and and score. Howard was a little out and never saw that coming. Landon should put himself in the game instead of complaint when he got fault. If anyone here play soccer should know that your never stop playing until you hear the the referee whilsel.

    Well all I can say is that Bob Bradley better get his act together with this team because El Salvador could give us some kind of problem and maybe still one point from us or maybe even win. Has anybody here have think about the possibility of USA maybe be 4th in the qualifying or maybe even not make it. Remember here come El Salvador who played really well yesterday, T&T who won yesterday and have two new player (Zamora), after that Honduras that killed Costa Rica in Honduras 4-0. and last but not least Costa Rica who can also come in a take a point from us or win. Bob Bradley should have been more aggrasive yesterday. The USA had nothing to loose yesterday if they would have played to win. what that worst that would had happen, Loose to Mexico (which we did) or tied. But if we had play more attacking like we did the first 10 min. we could of have won the game and will be sitting on top. Now we are 3rd place and who knows maybe 4th and play in South America against the like of (Colombia, Uruguay, or even worst Argentina) Mr. Bradley you are getting us on deep deep crap here. Think about guys and give me the your opinion.

    • Yankeehooligan

      August 13, 2009 at 4:21 pm

      It was the wrong move to start Ching but I thought Donovan outplayed Dempsey. LD played a perfect ball to Davies for the first goal. Dempsey looked slow. I agree either Torres or Holden should have started. Altidore needed to start as well. I’m sick of announcers always saying Ching is a good post player or holds the ball well with his back to goal. When?! When does he do this, ever? He was pathetic.

  18. Angel

    August 13, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Hello everyone, I’m didn’t want to post anything last night because I’m still very upset with the outcome against Mexico. Today 13th is not one of my good day because not only USA lost but my birth Country lost too, El Salvador. my heart goes to both country. Anyway First Disappointment was with the USA who went to the Azteca to play like a little girl. A country that is the land of the brave it became the land of the scare. USA a team with a strong Mentality, Courage, very disapline team should not be thinking about the altitude, the pressure of the Mexican fan, or smog. Everything team that goes to the Azteca from Central America goes with guts and the desire to win there and the USA was very scare. Where are all the crap that Landon Donovan preach. “One Point no we are going for 3 point” that was Donovan words. Everyone in this team except for Davis, Ouchie, Dempsey, Bradley and maybe Howard. but the rest was awful. Bob Bradley like always don’t know what the F he was trying to play or what kind of format. why do you used 2 striker at top and them you box yourself in your half and play it safe. Using a 4-4-2, after it become a 4-6. If Bob Bradley was going to play like that them should of gone like always 4-4-1-1. Bob Bradley have to have the guts to take his son (M. Bradley) or Donovan out the game if they are not doing well. I saw Phone-in in FoxSport and Winalda said it best. Some players does not belong in some certain games. Donovan was one of them in this game. He was lost. Once again what he didn’t used Torres. We were playing in his backyard a guy with experience playing in the Azteca or the Bonbonera in Toluca very similar environment. Look if the USA want to win the World cup have to learn how to win in the Azteca period. Now I saw El Salvador play against T&T and was a very exciting game even tho El Salvador lost was a good game in ES favor. They either have tied or win this game but hey at least the have the f-king guts to play to the end. One guy that made a lots of different was ARTURO ALVARES yes A. Alveres a guy that Bob Bradley and Nowak didn’t want to cap him for the Olympic team nor the National team. well he was doing some good crosses, passes and holding the ball and almost score. But since Torres, Alvarez, Orosco, Vidal and soon Castillo since the have the latino last name Bob Bradley will never will give them a chance. BOB BRADLEY should be fired.

  19. LD

    August 13, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    This article does not get written if we have a halfway decent referee yesterday. The US likely would have won the game and at worst achieved a draw if the Mexicans had not gotten every call and the referee had not been in the tank. That is the bottom line.

    • Alfredinho

      August 13, 2009 at 9:58 pm

      in a list of shitty excuses when a game is lost this is the first one in every list….

  20. Gods own Country

    August 13, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    “Now the US has been soundly beaten by a Mexican team that was missing Pavel Pardo and Rafa Marquez, the two most accomplished active Mexican players in European club football.”

    That has to be a joke right?
    I am how many other teams win in Mexico City?
    Any way you can never over look the mexican, because they play such a fluid one touch game with guys that have skills to hold the ball. And when the USA plays teams like that we struggle.
    And who ever think that this team is worse than the team 4 years ago, you are smoking something. I love the USA and will always support them, but Mexico will always be the better team in CONCACAF until we can find more players like Torres who knows how to hold the ball and a coach who knows how to utilizes these types of players.

  21. Kevin

    August 13, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    ZERO urgency from our bosses in the USSF…none whatsoever!!! Mexico got rid of Erikkson to stop the bleeding WHEREAS we hang on to a coach whose tactics, player selection and mentality would’ve gotten him fired well over a year ago. Why do you now think Mexico has caught up Kartik? they fired coaches until they found the right one!!!!!! We HOLD ONTO A COACH WHO CONSISTENTLY HAS FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We can’t hold on to a lead against ANYBODY including some of the minnows in CONCACAF!!! Where was Spector???…if it ain’t broke don’t fix it…Cherundulo was a disaster!! What infuriates me is WHY OH WHY can our coach get away with such awful player selection and yet remain safe at the helm. I mean did he NOT see Ching and Cherundulo play in the Gold Cup??!!! Both were awful….. After all we tied freaking Haiti and needed a miracle to do that! ANY other coach would’ve been fired..end of story!!! If we gain entry to the WC they’ll put us in another group of death where we’ll be lucky to draw against Kuwait and someone like France, Italy or Brazil will beat our brains in…same old story USSF!! Get with the!!!!

    • Alfredinho

      August 13, 2009 at 9:56 pm

      Did you know “El Vasco Aguirre” was the mexican coach back when all these bloggers claim Mexico was better…do you know who the Coach is in Mexico right now?

      Mexico did the same thing, it was broke but they tried fixing it.

  22. YAR H

    August 13, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    I think we will still go to the World Cup. Al it takes is beating Costa Rica at home. Winning the group and finishing 3rd are the same thing. Qualification.

    What happens at the World Cup is more worrisome, however. Nobody does well in the World Cup without a midfield. Against Mexico, our midfield decided to take a day off. The score could have been a blow-out, if it was not for the great effort by our defenders, especially by Onyewu. In the Confederations Cup we won twice and lost three games, so to label that tournament as a breakthrough is a stretch.

    • Alfredinho

      August 13, 2009 at 9:52 pm

      dude, Onyewu is sooo overrated, look at all these blogs youre the only one thats mentioned this guy…the same guy that gave up that first goal against inter in the showcase game last month.

  23. Rex

    August 13, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    First of all, USA was never dominant, our primary measuring stick, Mexico has just been bad. The USA has now plateaued and Mexico is back where they should be.

    The USA finally has a good pool of players to select, but this means nothing if they are not properly selected.

  24. Watson

    August 13, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Mexico is substantially worse than four years ago. Blanco, Franco, Sinha, Pardo all past their prime. Bravo totally off the radar. Gio and Vela not there yet. Guradado still developing, and Nery Castillo simply a waste.

    Yet, we have lost to them twice in a row. Unbelievable. CONCACAF is not stronger. Kartik is dead wrong if he is trying to claim Mexico is some sort of juggernaut now. The bottom line is that the US has regressed.

    Claudio Reyna? Gone. Replacement ______________________
    John O’Brien? Gone. Replacement ________________________
    Brian McBride? Gone. Replacement _________________________
    Eddie Pope? Gone. Replacement __________________________
    DaMarcus Beasley? Going. Replacement ____________________

    Davies and Altidore are nice young players, but the rest of our team is much worse than 4 years ago. Heck, Donovan isn’t the player he was then and he’s 27 as opposed to 23 then!

    • Yankeehooligan

      August 13, 2009 at 4:27 pm

      Claudio Reyna? Gone. Replacement Michael Bradley/Lando (not yesterday obviously)
      John O’Brien? Gone. Replacement Stuart Holden
      Brian McBride? Gone. Replacement Jozy Altidore
      Eddie Pope? Gone. Replacement (tough one, loved Pope) Gooch, I guess
      DaMarcus Beasley? Going. Replacement (easy) Torres

    • Alfredinho

      August 13, 2009 at 9:49 pm

      since when is 27 old? or past the prime. what i got out of this article is that the US is not the same team it was four years ago, and if your blaming these results on “old” players, then isnt that what every other team struggles with? whats your point?

  25. Roger

    August 13, 2009 at 11:58 am

    I think Kartik in general over rates CONCACAF. Costa Rica is worse than in 2005 for sure. Mexico also has regressed. Honduras is better, but T&T is worse. Kartik writes a lot of stupid b/s about how tough it is on the road in the region. Do you honestly think Brazil, Germany, Holland, etc would struggle in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Cuba and Guatemala? Do they have players so mentally weak that if one thing goes wrong they fall apart?
    Don’t forget in Guatemala an obvious handball on Bocanegra in the box was not called, and later Guatemala was reduced to 10 men. Yet we still needed a late winner to get the 3 points against a team so bad they did not quality for the Gold Cup getting beaten out by Nicaragua who had never qualified for any tournament before.

    CONCACAF as a whole has regressed. Mexico, the USA and Costa Rica are all worse than 4 years ago. Honduras is better, but Panama, Guatemala, T&T and Canada have slipped also.

    The fact that the USA could not turn Kartik’s mythical “dominance” into something permanent tells me all I need to know about the Gulati/Bradley regime.

  26. Chris B

    August 13, 2009 at 11:53 am


    In the Hex for 2006, Mexico, US, Costa Rica were the only teams that were good. Tand T? if they had to play a South American team to get into the cup would they have succeeded? ah..No! I believe that the Hex this time around is much better and so it reflects with the results. Honduras was where last time around? ES? Could ES beat mexico during the last qualification? No! Costa Rica may be missing well known stars but it seems to be playing well with young players leading. TandT are they better? I would say no but we will see if Jones, Zamora and the rest of the English brigade can help them!

  27. AdamTheRed

    August 13, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Is CONCACAF now more competitive as a whole?

    I would argue YES!

  28. bill

    August 13, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Go pound sand… An asterisk my friend??? Then why don’t we just put an asterisk on every loss in Azteca? Reaching, reaching, reaching….

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published.


Translate »