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Talk Of Manchester City Making A Top Five Is Premature

If I was an Arsenal fan, I’d be fed up already listening to people saying that Manchester City were obviously going to usurp them as one of the “Big Four” sides. It’s amazing what spending money does to peoples judgement when it comes to football and Manchester City have certainly caught more than their fair share of attention over the summer. To all intents and purposes, Manchester City will easily outstrip Arsenal on the pitch and leapfrog them in the Premiership.

So since last summer City have spent over £160 million pounds, but have they really bought the required players to turn them into a major force in the Premiership. In my honest opinion, no they haven’t. It’s easy to simply look at the figures they’ve spent and it all becomes an addiction to money rather than talent. For some, Arsene Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson have suddenly lost the managerial skills they’ve earned over one summer due to players going to Manchester City.

How has Ferguson lost his abilities by not signing Carlos Tevez? Whilst the vocal United fans tried to convince Ferguson to sign him up, Ferguson would not be budged. He was quite right to question how a striker who only scored 5 goals in the Premiership was worth £25 million. He consistently failed to deliver in big games time and again, yet because he ran around like a dog chasing a rabbit, he was “world class”. It is such an over rated term, that is consistently trotted out all the time as to make it almost redundant. Would you honestly say he’s a better striker than Wayne Rooney? Really? Even the most blinkered City fan can surely see the stupidity of that comparison.

Not one of Manchester City’s new signings is World Class, that’s a fact. Not one of them. Honestly, seriously, none of them. With the exception of Gareth Barry, Shay Given and Wayne Bridge, there isn’t one player who would be at Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal or Chelsea. Adebayor, Toure and Tevez have all been let go because they aren’t good enough for a top 4 side. City had clean run at every one of the targets they’ve signed because the clubs that owned the players were happy to see them leave, Barry and Given apart.

Craig Bellamy, over rated, over paid and has never, ever delivered consistently. A temper that causes more problems than he’s worth, I witnessed one of his strops at Norwich. Refused a decision by the referee, little Craig stomped his feet and jumped up and down on the spot for almost a minute. Pathetic. I wonder how long it will be before he starts texting his team mates spiteful messages?

Roque Santa Cruz, so good that when he left Bayern Munich, he joined Blackburn, no offence Rovers fans. If every major club in Europe wasn’t interested, how has he become such a brilliant striker after one good season and then moping around for a year hoping for a move. In 8 years at Bayern, he scored 38 goals playing for one of the biggest sides in Europe and one that consistently challenged for trophies at home and in Europe. That’s a dreadful record for someone allegedly so good.

Robinho  joined Manchester City, then forgot who he’d signed for. Chelsea to be fair, wouldn’t pay over £27.5 million for him and by Christmas, they were probably glad they hadn’t. Another one touted as “world class”, laughably so if you’ve watched him regularly at Real Madrid. A good player, almost really good, but wildly inconsistent, prone to having hissy fits and a strike rate that doesn’t match the amount of chances he gets.

As for the two signings from Arsenal, Toure and Adebayor, Wenger must be laughing all the way the bank with his £40 million transfer kitty. He has, thanks to Manchester City, made a fortune from Arsenal’s two biggest troublemakers who were simply not at the races last season. If anything, Arsenal are stronger without spending a penny. The issues that those two caused in the dressing room and on the training ground had caused fractures through out  Wengers squad in the last two seasons. Arsenal are better without those two at the Emirates, no question.

Adebayor famously attacked a team mate during a match because he didn’t pass to him, Toure got his gang to ignore William Gallas because he couldn’t be captain. Once again, childish, immature and bringing tons of baggage with them.Good riddance, I don’t know one Arsenal fan who is sad to see them leave. Not one. That tells you everything you need to know about those two.

This rag tag bunch of egotistical, money driven mercenaries are now all nicely tied up on 4 and 5 year contracts, earning more money than they ever believed they possibly could. Do you really think they’ve come to win trophies or count their cash? All this talk of “ being excited by the project” makes me laugh, it’s jibberish. It’s all about the money, nothing more, nothing less.  Now somehow this team will be bonded and formed into one the best teams in England within weeks? It’s crazy to expect such results so soon.

How long before the cracks appear at Eastlands and the dressing room becomes a pit of ego clashes and cliques. If they’re not in the top 7 come Christmas, the pressure will be really on Mark Hughes. Rome was not built in a day and Manchester City could end up being more like Sodom and Gomorrah than the Eternal City next season. They will have all to do to keep up with Everton, Tottenham, Villa and Fulham, never mind crack the top 4 and worry Arsenal.

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  1. Chris

    July 26, 2010 at 5:13 am

    A year on, and what is the verdict? You’re not very bright mr munic. Like the rest of your pack, you’re a right laughing stock. We’re coming to take you and you know it – smell the fear and leg it. As you do.

  2. FredtheRed

    December 1, 2009 at 5:43 am

    Bitter Blue does the truth hurt??

  3. Adebayor

    September 18, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    i wonder if u still feel the same way, Adebayor is not world class the guy have scored in every game this season, bellamy is playing great.

  4. Morgan

    August 13, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Cmon! You don’t know what bubbles and squeak are? Are you sure your a Brit?

    Anyhow, I respect your opinions, but as a lifetime player (I’m 26) I don’t simply gain an interest (and I’m no where near overweight like most of fat slobs in this country, thank you ver much). I follow football 24/7 online, on tv, etc. You have to understand the coverage for football in the U.S. sucks, so it is hard to find all the details. By the way American football is the number one sport, and quite an exciting one I might add. Football is still my favorite by far though.

    Imagine if the athletes who play American football, basketball, hockey, etc. played only football. You would have some serious competition on your hands, but they don’t. And hey, let’s face it, just because you’re a brit doesn’t mean your Wayne Rooney quality on the pitch.

    I will agree with you that American culture is shit, but not all of it and not all of us digest that mass cultural gluttony of garbage.

    • Uarafool

      August 13, 2009 at 5:45 pm

      Good for you Morgan.

      A lot of professional players in Europe and South America are sons and grandsons of professionals and the managers have decades upon decades of Learning and tactical know how for people before them but if America ever took to football it would take years but of course they would compete, but sadly I don’t think they will ever take to it.

      Me and my brother watched the Super bowl final years ago when they tried to sell it in the U.K (it didn’t take off) I said Redskins he said Cowboys can’t remember who won and didn’t have a clue what was going on! but it looks a bit like Rugby which is 2nd to football in England.

      What is it with Americans and Wayne Rooney he is a good player but his style is all effort and aggression very much like Tevez I prefer players with a bit more class i.e. Torres, Robinho, Messi, Ronaldinho and even Ryan Giggs in the 90s he was amazing one of the best players I have ever seen live (he won player of the year this year when he was no where near but should have had it yrs gone bye so I can live with that) along with a guy Called Chris Waddle, Klingsman and even though he is a tosser Ronaldo all great entertainers.

    • Uarafool

      August 13, 2009 at 5:49 pm

      Oh and if i was alive in the second world war period I may no what Bubbles and squeak was. lol

  5. GarethChelsea

    August 13, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    I feel that any team who ever it is and however rich their owners are they would expect a top 5 place at least when they have spent over £100 million

    • Uarafool

      August 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm

      Well gareth the City Chairman will be happy with with 6th and the fans would be to, but the press wont they’ll talk shit for months. Next year when they spend £100m-£200m then they will expect a lot more!

  6. Morgan

    August 13, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Toure only left because he wanted to leave. Wenger wouldn’t sell him unless he wanted to go. That’s a fact of the way it works in European football. Nobody honors a contract. They bitch and moan and in most cases get the exit they want. And of course Wenger is going to take 16million for him! Ronaldo is an egotistcal fuck, but there is just one thing about him that Toure is not. The best player in the world.

    No choice for Ade to leave? What is with these players being treated like daddy’s little girl? Oh the boo boys got to me. Wah Wah. Cry me a river. If he is that soft you can have him. He could have said I’m going to come back next year and put 20 in the back of the net and show the boo boys what I can do this year (and it’s not like all Arsenal fans are boo boys). Excuses, excuses. Instead, he saw the long arm of the Arabs dumping way too much money into his pockets. Let’s get to what these players are really after. You think they are coming to City to win championships? Secondary. If that were the case, City would have signed players like this years ago.

    Really? A footballer being cleared of a night club related crime? Shocking! In Brazil nonetheless. He must have been accused of some pretty crude shit being their definition of a crime is a bit skewed.

    Ok, so the English invented football. Being American does not mean we can’t play the game. I’ve been playing my whole life, including college. I play with English muppets in NYC weekly that can’t spell football. So give yourself a pat on the back, have some bubbles and squeak and a dental visit. Say hi to Mary Poppins for me.

    • Uarafool

      August 13, 2009 at 4:02 pm

      Toure and Ade both left because neither were particularly wanted by the manager and in Ade’s case most of the fans (that’s a real fact neither ask for transfer or were put on the list) also Arsenal needed to raise money as they are heavily in debt because of a new stadium (you will note they will not spend to much this year).
      Lets not forget that this is their JOB and they are human, if someone offers you a raise you go in 99.9% of the time. Practically none of the players were ever fans the club they are at so why would they be loyal? as fans we see things very differently.
      By the way you may have noticed the trophies always go where the money is in the long run that’s just part of the modern game. So if you think that none are comming to city (in time) you must be mad.

      Robino’s problems were in England not Brazil, the women involved had made her story up. Look up the story yourself. Must have been a bit scary for Robinho being a not a good English speaker in a strange country.

      Finally being American means that footbal is not your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th sport in your country its played by girls at school, and has little coverage basically its not taken seriously at all just like your top sports in the rest of the world. I believe basketball is your number 1 but I could not name 1 player except Michael Johnson (Only because of that film he was in!). In England, France, Brazil, Germany, Italy, Spain, Argentina and many more you eat sleep and drink football, not just decide to take an interest for a bit.
      Oh by the way what the fuck is bubbles and squeak? and surely your to fat to play football maybe you should go on a diet and shoot someone, just chill do the things Americas like doing.

  7. DaveMo

    August 13, 2009 at 11:32 am

    I admit I am no City fan. I think the writer of this article knew exactly what reaction he would get when he started typing – City supporters tend to show up in force with their share of pitchforks and expletives when their club is even slighted. So a hit job like this had to be bait set for maximum reaction.

    As for their buying this summer, I think they bought the best players available – very good players that have been shown to thrive in the premier league. The only two players of better quality that departed an EPL club this summer and DIDN’T head to City are Ronaldo and Alonso. City’s failed bid for Kaka showed them that they first have to show theirs is worthy destination before they can go in for players of that quality again. To do that, they need proven premier league players in the 7/10+ range.

    I think you can talk about what formation they’ll use with all the players that can’t possibly be left out. I think you can talk about whether Hughes has the gravitas to hold the respect of the massive egos in the locker room. And you can have your rant about how all this money, with no regard for the profitability of the club, is ruining football. But you can’t seriously write an article about how every player they’ve brought in is rubbish.

    You could hand-pick ten names from any combination of clubs, and I could write an opinion piece that very selectively focused on just their negatives. “Drogba is an old has-been who undermines the manager and wears his ipod on the bench when he’s left out.” Maybe, but he’s looked rejuvenated in the preseason, clearly respects his new manager, is thriving in his modified role, and is about to have a cracking season. Which bit would you have written if he had transferred to City this summer?

  8. Uarafool

    August 13, 2009 at 11:21 am

    Toure had problems with Gallas and was unhappy but this was sorted, when he was sold it was Wenger’s decision alone if he says no Toure would still there now! December surely you mean January. Your gay as fuck ‘whiny, sissy’ comment was at city fans you pleb not Toure. Ade does have a bit of fire in him, but really had no option but to leave after the boo boys had a go at him because they had thought he was looking for a move to AC Milan or Barca who had both made offers Although he still signed for Arsenal but the fans were not happy so bye bye Ade, simple (bit like u really).

    Now for your next retarded rant. Yes Robinho left the Tenerife training camp early among a mix up with permission given by another coach (didn’t miss any games)as it now turns out to see his legal advisers in Brazil regarding assault charges brought by a women in a night club which came to light a couple of weeks later (was cleared of all charges). He received the highest fine ever in English football (£320k) for this mister meaner no doubt this is Hughes showing no control (wonder what Ronaldo’s was for saying he wanted to go to Madrid right before the season started?)
    14 goals in 31 in his first year in the prem, which puts him 4th top scorer in the league WITHOUT taking penalties unlike Gerrard and all from midfield. ‘Suckers’ you haven’t got a clue what your talking about have u?

    Finally I make a example of this writer because you (and others on here) know fuck all about football (yes football not soccer) you take all your information from this type of gutter writing, not just him in particular but those of his like this is why you are and always will be a football fuckwit. I thank you very much, boom boom.

  9. ish

    August 13, 2009 at 2:57 am

    city away from home still need a bit more spine i think to compete.
    lets say the away team is
    ————–de jong–barry————

    that is probably the first team, maybe zabaleta can get replaced. Now thats a pretty decent first team. I dont think its up to the challenge of taking out a midfield of lets say essien-mikel-lampard or aquilani-maschareno-gerrard but plenty good to give arsenal and manU a fright.

    The forward line is probably one of the most even forward lines around, very balanced and plenty and talent there. The defense is still nothing special though. A defender strong in the air is needed and maybe an improved right back, something more attacking like a maicon or alves would have worked perfectly. I think manCity really should have gone after johnson. Also bridge is great in attack but defensively he can be caught out.

  10. Morgan

    August 12, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    What I mean is Toure wanted out last December and made that pretty clear. Also went public saying he felt like he wasn’t part of Arsene’s future plans, hence the whiny, sissy comments. I mean these over paid athletes are bitches, all of em. Notice you didn’t defend Ade, appear smarter than you are I suppose, you little wanker.

    Maybe you don’t remember Robinho leaving training during city’s end of the year dry spell, unknown to Hughes until Robinho called from Brazil. 14 goals!! Wow!! Well worth the 27 million!! AHAHA!! Suckers. Hughes will be gone after this year.

    Seems like you don’t read anything at all besides whatever this guy wrote, I don’t even know his name. What I do know is your sensitivity level needs to come way down. Time to get off the rag.

  11. Morgan

    August 12, 2009 at 10:00 am

    I love seeing all these whiny, sissy city fans get all bent out of shape over an article that is suggesting some very real facts and possibilities.

    You have to admit that Toure is a big cry baby and was dividing the locker room at Arsenal. Same with “the fans don’t like me” Adebayor. Shut up! Take em both city. Enjoy.

    I do disagree with the view of Tevez. Certainly he is no Wayne Rooney, but the lad can play for sure and will probably be city’s most effective and consistent striker as far as effort put forth and goal scoring threat.

    The only thing missing from this article are shots at Hughes. This guy couldn’t control Robinho last year or get his team to play for him in the last 12 games (mostly because they were stuck mid table no matter the results), but now he is going to handle all these personalities? Sorry, don’t think so.

    • Uarafool

      August 12, 2009 at 2:16 pm


      ‘Whiny, sissy’ what’s that? are you real? How the hell would anyone have to admit Toure is a cry baby? just what has he done? spent 8yrs at Arsenal having commanded the utmost respect from his manager and fans alike this player never asked for a transfer and has been a role model at Arsenal, how was he dividing the locker room (wherever that is I think you mean changing rooms). I think the problem is that you don’t have a clue what happens in the ‘EPL’ as you call it, because you rely on total ignoramuses like Paul Bestall who obviously get their info from shity little web sites and red top rags (low quality newspapers.)

      Robinho by the way scored 14 goals from the LEFT WING last season what are you talking about Hughes can’t control him? long may he keep up whatever his is doing with him. By the way our end of season was our BEST form not worse. I don’t know where people are from on this site but I’m starting to think mcfcforever has a point.

      Yet again more stupid inaccuracies (probably caused by Bestall’s and other lazy journos crap)have been answered but I’ll guarantee another nugget will write more shite not giving any actual facts or good points. Shame really.

  12. mcfcforever

    August 12, 2009 at 6:48 am

    hhaha…fcuk u yankys room…wales is a club ..are just some of the commenets listed on here …stick to baseball u tits

  13. Fore Prefect

    August 11, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    A little on the harsh side, but sorry City Fans sometimes the truth is harsh–a good analysis tho–spending alot of money doesn’t necessarily build a strong team–Agree that that lockerroom is going to be a HUGE implosion just waiting to happen, and should prove to be mildly amusing/entertaining–City would have been better off to actually address their needs-esp Defense-rather than blowing a lot of money on a whole plate full of F’s–Seems they forgot u can only play so many F’s at one time

  14. gunjack

    August 11, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    ha ha gud article…..screw those city fans!!!

  15. Joaq

    August 11, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Fantastic article.

  16. Ian

    August 11, 2009 at 8:53 am

    Let’s wait a few months before we all judge whether there is only one team in Manchester who can win a trophy this year….

    City have spent this summer; some of it seems wisely, some seems insane. The proof will be in the results. Football ‘experts’ love to try and be smart and predict everything, but the truth is, lets just sit and back and see how they do. They could come 1st, they could come 9th. No one knows for certain, so let’s just wait and see before making any more guesses shall we?

  17. Uarafool

    August 11, 2009 at 8:12 am


    Point me to the bitter comments? and lets address them, why just come on and make a random statement that makes no sense?

    You see mk the writer (Paul) tells us fergie would ‘not be budged’ on the the buying of Tevez. When we know that Fergie came out and said himself they offered the asking price also to make him one of their top paid players, but this was turned down. Or how about his Robinho Chelsea story, Scolari didn’t want him he was two expensive not that Chelsea had balls the deal up by basically announcing his signing before it actually happened! Or that he said Kolo Toure was a trouble maker at Arsenal. All simply made up and why? Ask yourself that question, WHY!

    How about forgetfull Fred who seems to think his team take 6 points off City all the time (maybe he has a time machine and gone back to the 90’s.)
    Fred who has said City are going to win the title on paper or not? Because no city fan has on this page maybe your getting Bestall syndrome (when you just start making things up) .Oh by the way Fred every bookie in the country thinks Sunderland will finish above Wolves, typical City fans that they must be! and above this paragraph are some of the facts that are made up Fred.

  18. mk

    August 11, 2009 at 7:14 am

    buch of bitters
    comments on here are enough proof for it being an accurate description

  19. mcfcforever

    August 11, 2009 at 7:02 am

    fredthered ….another typical rag numpty u be telling us u from manchester!.. i bet u never ever been the swamp have u?..come on u can tell us…

    dont worry though as school holidays will be finished soon and them big bad bullys will be back giving u a slap at break times…[u keyboard warrior u ]…..ctid!

  20. Bob the Baker

    August 11, 2009 at 5:36 am

    I give you one thing,maybe you should consider another profession,as journalism isn’t your forte!
    Firstly,you seem to have dreamt up certain ‘facts’.Secondly,there is not even a hint of objective journalism in your article.
    To the plonker that thinks that our owners are going to get fed up & sell our club when things go wrong,is living in cloud cuckoo land. For your information,our owners are spending millions on our infrastructure (£20m on a new office complex alone).They have also stipulated in a mission statement that their investment is for a minimum of 10 years.But then again,you probably won’t believe this,as it doesn’t square with your wishful thinking.

    • FredTheRed

      August 11, 2009 at 5:52 am

      What “facts” were dreamed up? It seems an honest appraisal to me of a team of jokers.

  21. Salford Blue

    August 11, 2009 at 3:35 am

    At the end of the day, Toure & Adebayor were two of the first names on your teamsheet and still would be, if you still had them.
    They WILL be missed, solely because you haven’t bought anyone to replace them.
    Vermaelen has come from Dutch football and whilst he will slot in well with Wenger’s mindset, he will still take a while to get used to the pace.
    If you get injuries to Van Persie and/or Eduardo, are you going to put your money on Bendtner and Wilshere firing you to the title?
    Come on.
    When Fabregas eventually leaves, will you say the same about him?
    You have had to sell to pay for your stadium and keep the shareholders happy.
    We don’t and are in a fortunate position where we can play catch-up all at once.
    Which fan WOULDN’T want their team to do this?
    We haven’t gone out and bought ‘Galacticos’.
    Away form cost us big time last season and Hughes has bought players who can grind out results at Stoke, Bolton, Wigan, etc

    Makes me laugh when no-one criticises Villa spending £12m on a bloke who is out until late 2009.
    Yet we get pilloried for buying a quality, proven central midfielder.

    Also, remind me how much Liverpool paid for Albert Riera? £13m?
    Is this the same player who, 12 months previous, was offered to us for £2m.

    • Jay

      August 11, 2009 at 4:37 am

      Thats a huge “if” for something that probably wont happen.

    • FredTheRed

      August 11, 2009 at 5:51 am

      Haha, it’s hilarious to read some of the comments from “City” fans. Amazing what a bit of money does to the mind isn’t it.
      City have always been the second team in Manchester apart from 3 seasons in the late 60’s. Even at our lowest ebb, they still couldn’t do anything in the First Division, yet people used to like City, felt for them and the fans’ gallows humour. Going on the postings on here, that will quickly evaporate with the arrogance on display. Not kicked a ball this season, had a dreadful preseason but easily going to finish 4th?? WTF?
      Like the fan who claimed RSC won the Champions League, when he never kicked a ball, now City are attracting the kind of fans they used to tarnish United with.
      They have bought 5 or 6 loose cannons, still have a ropey back four and regardless of what people say about Given, he’s not the best keeper in the Premiership. No chance.
      Hughes had a couple of good seasons at Blackburn and Wales but left both clubs in a mess. He’ll have it all to do when he realises the size of the squad, the ego’s and the owners lack of patience. Sacked by Christmas with City in 16th.

      • Colin Bell

        August 11, 2009 at 2:58 pm

        Why do you appear on sites with City related topics?

        Makes me laugh you spend so much time reading and writing about City.


  22. Jay

    August 11, 2009 at 2:48 am

    Adebayor is ooooverrated. He had one good campaign 2 years ago and people think he is gonna be like Henry. He won’t be missed. Rosicky and Eduardo alone will be a huge boost for our club. If we can stay somewhat healthy WE WILL to make something happen. There is no club on earth with more overall pace than Arsenal.

    Just wait until we dismantle another Scottish side next week..

    • Benn

      August 11, 2009 at 4:30 am

      I disagree with the leage prediction from Stratty. The big four will remain unchanged, for this season at least. But there is a definite emergence of a second 4: Tottenham, Everton, Villa and Man City.

      If arsenal don’t spend then they could slip down, however they have built a new stadium and have little money left. I would say that Man City and Tottenham are the only two clubs financially big enough to take their place in the long run, and Spurs will be out if the build a new stadium as Arsenal have. Everton and Villa just don’t have the financial backing and this is reflected in both squad size and squad quality.

      Unfortunately it is all about the money. The players Man City have signed were not vital to the clubs they left, otherwise they would have commanded price tags as did the likes of Ronaldo or Kaka.

      The best way to think about the players signed by City are that they are “key” players that can produce good quality but are not “vital” players that form part of the heart of a club.

      Such vital players are:
      Giggs and Scholes at Man Utd.
      Terry and Lampard at Chelsea.
      Fabregas etc, at Arsenal.
      Gerrard etc, at Liverpool.
      You could argue that another reason Spurs slid down the rankings at the start of last season was the sale of the vital player – Robbie Keane – to Liverpool, and the continuous injury of Ledley King. the club has yet to fully recover. They sold Berbatov to Man Utd and made a lot of money in the process – he was a class act but a moody player. I can’t help but link him with the likes of Tevez, Adebayor, etc.

      Either way, City fans need to relax. It won’t be this season for you – the squad need time to gel – as mentionned above, Chelsea did exactly the same when Abramovic arrived – it took two full seasons before they came close.

  23. stratty

    August 11, 2009 at 1:26 am


    Adebayor wouldnt get into the Arsenal team??????
    They’re better off without Toure???

    I think City have got a team as good as Arsenal, and the 4th and 5th strongest team may swap this year.

    This is the league May 2010:

    2…Man United
    4…Man City
    7…Aston Villa
    9…West Ham
    13..Blackburn Rovers
    14..Bolton Wanderas
    15..Stoke City
    16..Wigan Athletic
    20..Hull City

    • FredTheRed

      August 11, 2009 at 5:55 am

      It’s bizarre that you think Sunderland will finish above Fulham and Wolves will finish below Birmingham.
      Typical City fans, know nothing about football.

  24. ish

    August 11, 2009 at 12:50 am

    toure is a great athlete but never a great defender. Not a bad one just not the level required.

    Adebayor is a very good striker, he is the kind of player that just pisses off defenders with his strength, height and movement.

    Tevez is a good second striker, hard working and intelligent.

    Santa cruz is ok, not great but still better then most strikers not in the top 4.

    Robinho was one of the best players in the EPL last year at home, away from home he struggled but with the influx of players that could change.

    The main problem is now there are way too many attacking players at City. Can City trouble arsenal? Maybe in a 1 on 1 but over the season they need to be consistent and manCity is anything but.

  25. Thomas

    August 11, 2009 at 12:35 am

    I don’t think anyone is questioning what has gone on at Man U. They brought in Valencia, who looks to be very promising. They also signed Owen on a free transfer. They’ve rebuilt the shape of the team, and they will be a force next season.

    Arsenal on the other hand, though commendable in attack, still doesn’t have a holding midfielder, and you’re placing your bets on an unknown Dutch center half, and Gallas…I guarantee if Gallas had been sold to City instead of Toure, this article would have focused on Gallas and his cry baby antics last year, loss of captency, etc.

    I’m not sure why City are still being ridiculed. Granted, they’ve made some questionable signings, but overall, they’ve consistantly purchased to strengthen the side.

    Adding Toure and Kompany gives City cover at the back. Barry and DeJong add muscle to midfield. Now you’ve got Robinho/Tevez/Ade/Roque/Bellamy to choose from up front. Not to mention getting Steven Ireland into the mix.

    On paper, I’d say City are quite a fomridable side.

    • FredTheRed

      August 11, 2009 at 5:56 am

      How many titles are won on paper?

      Exactly. Thanks for another 6 points this year.

  26. City Slicker

    August 11, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Pathetic article from a knuckle dragging numpty. Clearly a very BITTER ‘Nited fan still crying over losing out on signing CARLOS TEVEZ. Well just live with it. He decided against joining your MASSIVE club and you still haven’t got over it. Bacon face has been obsessing about CITY all summer so clearly he doesnt share your twisted views.He’s scared. He’s very scared..

  27. steve2

    August 10, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    for the sake of the PL’s competitive balance, all fans outside the top four damn well better HOPE Man City can break through this year….or you can expect the Top 4 for the next decade to consist of, in no order:


    Every top player in the world is watching Man City, to see if this works. If it doesn’t, there is no chance that a World Class player will EVER sign for someone outside the Big Four.

    And that will make for one completely boring league at the top and continue to widen the gap between the top and everyone else.

    As long as there are 4 CL’s places, all it takes is one other team to get in there, to assure that one of the new “Big Five” is left out, and you will start to see over time the EPL become more competitive top to bottom.

    The loss of revenue, say Arsenal, would face if they miss out would hurt. If the next year Liverpool finishes 5th, that weakens them. If the following year, it’s Man City, it weakens them. These clubs all budget years in advance counting on making the CL. Just one year out hurts that budget and will force them to either lose players, or not be able to sign the new players they require.

    As an American, i have no real allegiance to anyone. But I’m definitely be rooting for Man City this year. A top 4 finish for them is the best thing that can happen to the EPL.

  28. Uarafool

    August 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    I think you will find the problem is not with his opinions on said players but the fact that he has totally made up little stories, that for want of better wording are total lies e.g. Chelsea would not pay for robinho, Sir Slapped Arse Face didn’t want tevez, the list is endless. These stories only point to a huge dislike of our much loved football club, even though he says he watched Mr Pleat run skip and dance to our relegation which by the look of his writing he enjoyed immensely are we supposed to rejoice at his written diarrhoea, I think not!

  29. Lennon

    August 10, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    As a fan of a team that lies well outside of Manchester, let me offer two modest points:

    1. There are few things more boring to read than universal praise for a team, but one of them is universal disdain. So as little as I agree with the City fans who’ve chimed in on the quality of their side… I do agree that this was not a particularly insightful or compelling read. I’m not asking for your head or anything; great writers have poor efforts sometimes. I’m just offering my two cents on why I think this article drew so much vitriol from City fans and other interested parties alike. If you disagree, well… feel free to go on writing scathing reviews of whichever roster you like.

    2. Being able to spend heaps of money on players does not fundamentally help or hurt a team’s ability to analyze players, it only allows them to reach for a more diverse range of talents. So the question to be asked isn’t whether City is right or wrong to bring such financial clout to the table, but rather whether or not they’ve spent on the right players. I can see from the article that Paul hates pretty much all of City’s choices, and I can see from the comments that the City fans predictably love their investments. If you want my opinion (which I know you don’t), I fall somewhere in the middle: Barry, Tevez, and Toure all made sense to me, while Santa Cruz and Adebayor aren’t my cup of tea. What’s important, though, is that none of us really knows the answer until the team suits up and plays as a unit. There’s no harm in sharing opinions or analysis, but anyone who claims clairvoyance on these matters ends up a fool in the end.

    Regardless of how they finish, City’s will be an interesting story to follow this year. I know I’ll be paying attention.

  30. Mark Flint

    August 10, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    Right or Wrong, Love the strong take.

  31. mcfcforever

    August 10, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    {lost againts luton} ..think it was 83 m8 we got relagated..i was there , and still here today..citd*

    @bestall cheap wannabe ragtop writer seen many other the years..prob is your 12 months to late m8 theres loads of tits like u about nowadays!

  32. Uarafool

    August 10, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Paul (the football genius) Bestall on why Arsenal let Toure and Ade go.

    ‘If they were that good why let them go?’

    Yes if Ronaldo and Kaka were that good their teams would not have sold them!

    You Sir are what we call in the north a total Pillock!!! But you do make me laugh.

    • wllmhll

      August 10, 2009 at 8:20 pm

      lol, you made me laugh so hard coffee came out of my nose.

  33. Uarafool

    August 10, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    What are u on?
    “How has Ferguson lost his abilities by not signing Carlos Tevez? Whilst the vocal United fans tried to convince Ferguson to sign him up, Ferguson would not be budged.”
    Sir Bacon Face agreed to pay the £25.5m for him and £110k per week, but Tevez refused them. He was renowned for turning up in the big games. Don’t let facts get in the way of your bull will you.
    Toure a trouble maker? Your talking crap mate. If you want to see how pissed off Arsenal fans were over his transfer go and see their teamtalk page at the time of his sale!

    You don’t think Robinho would get in LFC side? Or Tevez? You do have a problem with City don’t you. Robinho scored 14 goals from the left wing how did Reira do? and Madrid refused to sell to Chelsea because of them selling his shirt on their website before a deal was completed. Hmm, why have you made up your own little nonsensical story up?

    practically everything you have wrote is inaccurate, are u studying GCSE journalism Paul? Because if so I think ya going to fail.

    The only people touting city for the SKY money four are the press! The City chairman would be happy with sixth place for his £140m+ plus investment and I think this is reasonable ask, but as the top four, Everton and Villa have not strengthened their squads (Utd, Arsenal, Pool & villa have all weakened) there is a small possibility that City could finish in that top four but unlikely.
    Do try and stop making things up Paul it kind of makes you look foolish.

  34. SPK

    August 10, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Tyson, you’re an idiot!

  35. SPK

    August 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Watched City lose at home against Luton? You tell us when that was then!

  36. Tyson

    August 10, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    Whats the point in writing this article.

    For one I completely agree with you but instead of typing up this article you could have ended this debate with a very simple few words: pre-season friendlies.

    Manchester City is nothing short of a joke and these idiots are owned by some dumbass Arabs who don’t realise their little money pot called oil is coming to an end.

    If that family is relying on oil for its wealth does anybody honest to god think Manchester City won’t be in debt in a decade?

    Oil prices fell by over 300% in the space of 8 months these idiots investing in this club will be broke in a few years. Manchester City has no future.

    • Colin Bell

      August 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

      Tyson, these Dumbass arabs have amassed a Trillion pounds and invest
      in all other types of industries and technologies.

      I presume you are not a dumbass and have a similar amount in your


  37. Feed the Goat

    August 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Another example of the cosy top four media driven SSN distorted garbage about Gods Own Football Club.
    Pathetic fools, we have never declared a top four objective as a club, top six yes is expected by the owners this season anything else is just southern sandel wearing out of touch journalistic ramblings.
    We will smash the top four that is choking the Premier League and real football fans will rejoyce, once one is out of the chimps league financial protection buffer the others will follow.
    The financial muscle behind us is not understood we can spend the same again in January and more if it suits us and again and again in following transfer windows without batting an eye.
    It is inevitable about our dominance within the EPL but not this season and the league will be better for it.

    • Jake

      August 10, 2009 at 7:12 pm

      Yeah, real football fans will rejoyce for money spending..sounds pretty real. And bragging about your “financial muscle” really shows how true you are. But again, thats how true those players are too, all they care about is money as well. Great team.

      • Colin Bell

        August 10, 2009 at 7:34 pm

        Jake I presume you are pissed, thick or both?

        Your sentences dont make sense. The majority of the article was based
        on bitter rantings about City’s money!

        Jealous or what? I was of Chelsea.

        Like I said what would you want from your rich owners?

        Tick tock

        • Jake

          August 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm

          I’m not saying anything of what the rich owners are doing. I’m talkiing about “feed the goat” claiming it’s good for football and that true football fans can rejoyce. That sounds pretty thick to me to make it seem as if true football fans are now legitimized if City goes out and spends a ton on players.

    • edgaraurelius

      August 10, 2009 at 8:32 pm

      City fans are very amusing. No, no real football fans won’t rejoice when oil money buys your team success. They weren’t rejoicing when Chelsea did it 6 years ago, they weren’t rejoicing when Madrid did it 8 years ago and they’re not going to rejoice if Manchester Shitty and Real Madrid’s huge spending buys them success this time around. REAL football fans will rejoice when ManShitty falls flat on their face and place behind the Big 4, Aston Villa, and Everton.

      Yes, the financial muscle behind you is perfectly understood, what ManShitty fans like you don’t seem to understand is just as easily as this investment can come, it can also go away. Manchester City is only a toy, a form of amusement for the Sheikh. Once that amusement goes away, so does the money.

  38. Jake

    August 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Great article! It’s funny to see all these City fans taking it personal and getting upset. Instead of acting like adults and responding with class and facts they just get upset and start yelling, oh well that’s to be expected. Terrific article though, glad someone had something intelligent to say about this instead of seeing the money side of it. And for pointing out that Tevez, Adebayor, and Toure are way overrated.

  39. Chris

    August 10, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Shut up Paul!

  40. Colin Bell

    August 10, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Paul I honestly thought this was a serious articlefor the first two paragraphs.

    Dont let the facts get in the way of your story will you?

    United spent the last 12 months negotiating with Tevez to reduce the fee and after losing Ronaldo then offered the full asking price for Tevez on 28/06/09. The split with Tevez was already too deep although he wanted to stay at United. He did receive an offer from Real Madrid but his family are very settled in Alderley Edge, so it was between City and Liverpool. Obviously he didnt fancy Liverpool as they are classed as Uniteds No 1 enemy and also as everyone knows they dont have a pot to piss in at the moment which is why they are constantly re-funding. So he joined City and the other ‘rag-tag bunch’ as you describe it?

    City have openly admitted they are paying over the odds for players at the moment as they are playing catch-up on the big 4. But just try and think this through the next 3 to 5 years of continued growth and investment. We couldnt attract the likes of Kaka, Eto and Terry but at least we had a damm good go and maybe if the team has a good season, players of that ilk will be attracted to join. As for Arsenal being stronger after losing Toure and Adebyor? How do you work that one out? Ridiculous.

    Santa Cruz was injured for a year at Bayern which is why Blackburn got him at a knock-down price. The guy has a Champions league medal and five German title medals.

    Robinho scored at a rate of a goal in every two games in his first year in England. He is a luxury player but maybe a luxury we can this season afford? To me he is the final peice of the jigsaw, not the first?

    Your article degenerated into bitter name calling, with the only praise for Given and Barry. Do you really think other clubs wouldnt fancy having Zabaleta, Bridge, Wright-Phillips, Ireland, Santa Cruz, Tevez, Petrov?

    A lot has been written and said about City over the past few months and to be honest it is getting boring. If your team won the ‘football lottery’ what would you have them do? Keep it in the bank and buy a new player a season to improve the squad? No neither would I want or expect that.

    Make up your own mind, dont just accept the easy option. City have no debt and pay all fees up-front pouring millions into football; I think Terry would have only been coming to City for the money, I dont believe Barry, Given, Santa Cruz, Bellamy or Toure have come for the money; Adebyor I am not sure about? however he looks such a good player in pre-season I am not greatly concerned at the moment.

    Tick tock just wait and see, the future is bright, the future is sky blue. It certainly is fun being a City fan.

  41. steve

    August 10, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    So you must have missed the interview with fergie, where he admits to repeatedly phoning Tevez and getting no reply? United took it for granted he was going to sign for them,and were gutted when he walked away.

  42. Salado

    August 10, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    Staggeringly naive and unfortunately typical of comments being spued by all and sundry prior to what could be a great year for the premiership not just for us City fans ,hopefully! It’s quite amazing how players we have aquired all of a sudden become dreadful within a matter of weeks Tevez a terrace hero at both the rags and west ham is now a dog chasing rabbits,Barry so desperately wanted by the scousers and a pivotal england international,Toure a loyal and rather good centre half at a previous top 4 club, Adebayor admittedly erratic yet exceptionally gifted,add to these useless no marks the likes of Kompany,DeJong,Petrov,Wright Phillips,Santa Cruz,Zabaleta,Bellamy,Richards,Onuha,and the burdgeoning talent of Ireland and the undoubted magic of Robinho all playing in front of arguably the best keeper in the EPL and you are of course right why oh why are we getting fucking excited you complete and utter fanny !!!!

  43. mark

    August 10, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    I don’t normally resort to name calling but your are a twat of the highest order. To quote Jimmy McGovern, Munich was the best thing that ever happened to you. Nobody knew you before, Fergie is a slapped arse, Neville looks like Herman Munster and I hate that fat bastard who shags Grannies, Rooney, god how I hate your fucking team. I feel much better now and next timk you plagarise Patrick Barclay’s words try to disguise it a bit better, you f**king muppet.

  44. Jacob

    August 10, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    What is this absolute crap you have written here….I’m a City fan and was a season ticket holder for 2 years before moving back to Australia. Yeah we’ve had some ups and downs but jesus christ mate your head is obviously so far up there you can’t see daylight. Give the journalist gig up pal your just no good at it!

  45. mick

    August 10, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Paul Bestall you have no journalism skills what so ever,give it up boy.

  46. steve

    August 10, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    You talk bollocks lad. We got 2 players off Arsenal and you say none of the players would make the the Arsenal team! Muppet

    • Paul Bestall

      August 10, 2009 at 6:29 pm

      If they were that good why let them go?

  47. mike cooke

    August 10, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    not one of our signings would be at a top4 club ??????? remind me who toure adebayor and tevez played for last year !!! who was centre forward the last time bayern won the chimps league ? oh yes RSC . you muppet

    • Paul Bestall

      August 10, 2009 at 6:28 pm

      So they sold them to a side not in the top 4, so in both Wenger and Ferguson’s opinion, they weren’t good enough.

      Bayern won the Champions League in 2001 wasn’t it? He didn’t play.

  48. Jerard

    August 10, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    I am a Spurs fan and i sincerley hope that Man City do really well this season. They have spent alot of money on proven premiership talent which is wise considering their immediate goals this season being challenging domestic honours. I thought that Spurs would have challenged last season, with all the money being spent in the transfer market, so i hope that Man City suceeds where Spurs have failed. Come on Man City and punish the so called Big 4 this season…you will be doing the rest of the premiership teams a favour…

  49. bluemoon

    August 10, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    whoever wrote this article is a munich. Giv yer ed a wobble. City will not be stopped for years and years and years and you will have to get used to it and stop writing rubbish anti-city articles. City has been around for well over 100 years mate so to suggest we are trying to build in a day is SHITE

    • Paul Bestall

      August 10, 2009 at 6:18 pm

      Nope, certainly don’t support United but Liverpool fans accuse me of the same so no problems.
      Having seen City lose at home to Wycombe & Luton, I can assure you I certainly don’t hate the Blue half of Manchester.

  50. Tom Coulson

    August 10, 2009 at 6:15 pm

    From a City fan, there is no way a top 5 can be created. We may get in the top 4 I hope we do, we need to to have a chance at top players next summer, but whoever finishes 5th is out of the champs league, out of the top 4 and out of the big 4 simple as.

  51. Stevo

    August 10, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    This is just another piece of anti city rubbish. Pathetic… You really are a waste of space.

    • Colin Bell

      August 10, 2009 at 7:09 pm

      Theres only one Steve Denton, only one Steve Denton!
      Colin Bell Latham

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