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USA 0-3 Brazil: Bradley Makes (Negative) History


Bora Milutinovic couldn’t do it. Steve Sampson couldn’t do it. Bruce Arena couldn’t do it. But Bob Bradley has accomplished it: consecutive games against Brazil where the US allowed three or more goals. Prior to the September 2007 friendly in Chicago the US had held Brazil to two or fewer goals in ten straight matchups, although the US lost nine of those games. In the same exact situation during the 2003 Confederations Cup in France, the USA needing a result against Brazil scraped and fought but still lost 1-0 and were eliminated. We’ve chronicled the 1999 Confederations Cup where the US dominated large stretches of a 1-0 loss to Brazil and then beat Germany three days later.


Bob Bradley has wanted the US to defend in numbers and generally is conservative tactically. But the conservative tactics have failed, as has the conservative player selection which regularly employs double standards towards different players. Jose Torres makes one mistake and is buried while the likes of DaMarcus Beasley, Sacha Kljestan and Benny Feilhaber continue to play regardless of performance.

Freddy Adu? He’s being told he must play regular club football to pl;ay for the nats while several others who don’t feature regularly for their club sides are given free reign on the national team.

Now under Bradley the US is not only losing to powerful teams from outside of CONCACAF much like it did under Bora, Sampson and Arena. But the US is being humiliated on the world stage. The USA under Sampson beat Argentina in the Copa America and Brazil in the Gold Cup. Under Arena the US beat Germany in the Confederations Cup and Portugal at the World Cup. But three years into Bradley’s tenure we have yet to witness a significant US victory off US soil or in a major competition.

Bob Bradley’s continued loyalty to players who he coached at the club level was his undoing today. DaMarcus Beasley and Sacha Kljestan were both horrible.


Howard   6

Bronestein 6

Onyewu  6

DeMerit  7

Spector  4

Beasley 2

Bradley 4

Kljestan 1

Dempsey 4

Donovan 6

Altidore 3

Casey 5

Feilhaber 6


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  1. Brad Allen

    June 24, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Have some faith in our coach! Although I have been frustrated with line-up choices at times (most notably at the Copa America last summer), I generally admire coach’s steady leadership and commitment to play higher caliber teams in friendly matches. I also like how he has given many players the chance to play at the national level (minus his no-name roster in S. America). I’m excited to see what we can do in the remaining qualifying matches and Gold Cup. Go USA!

  2. Bryce

    June 20, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    I Bewlieve that although we are losing, we are playing much better than we could have been playing and getting the same results. It’s not as if we are that much worse, its that the other teams do the little stuff so much better. To get an in-depth look at player ratings you can go to

  3. Adam from Joliet

    June 19, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Your ratings on Spector and Casey should be switched. Spector held his own for the most part, though he did make a poor play which led to the goal. Casey, on the other hand, gave no effort. Though Altidore did not have his best game at least we saw him hustling around; Casey just looked lazy.

    I still don’t think Bradley should be fired. Considering his tenure as coach he is certainly at a low, but all coaches have lows. What should determine his future status is whether or not he can quickly learn from this time, and turn the team around.

  4. Tommie

    June 19, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    MLS is killing the national team.

    It was just another MLS quality game for the USA,did anybody else see lack of control of the ball,the numerous give-aways,the errant passes and finally the players just standing around waiting for the ball to arrive.I saw no anticipation,not much hustle from the majority of the team and Altidore is so over-rated

    Suspect refereeing,this is a moot point, Mls allows such physical play that most players don’t need to hone individual skills and certainly show a lack of understanding of the International level of the sport. Most MLS players have no clue either about international football or the sport when they travel abroad.

    MLS is a joke and the reason this national team is worse than 1994 or 1995 or 1999 or 2002 is because MLS has been around so long now that the bad tactical and technical training from that leagues has made its way down to the national team level.

  5. El Loco

    June 19, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Let’s do our homework here. IMHO, Coach Bradley made his first major mistake by taking a team of infants to the Copa America. He took a team to Venezuela to practice and scrimmage, not to win. Why? You should always insist that the objective of a team is to win. If you want to practice, schedule a friendly. Copa America was an embarassment. We need a dedication to winning, our 94, 98, and 2002 WC teams had that. Never give up and hustle, hustle. I looked at the roster of the team that went to Copa America and it is scary. Of the whole roster, here are the ones still on the team: Bornstein, DeMerit, Wynne, Clark, Feilhaber, Kljestan, and Davies. Bradley wasted an opportunity to take a winning team to Venezuela, so he could glean these players from that squad. I think that is a very small return on the investment. We need more maturity on the team, something the aforementioned teams had plenty of. Maturity, not scared of other teams, smart players. It is supposed to be a Men’s team, not a boy’s team. Bradley should do his scouting by watching players on their club teams, not by using international tournaments to teach his players that they are horrible. And YES, show me another country that invites players to their natonal team, who are not playing for their club teams! Bradley, not only invites them, but starts them. Say what you may about Freddy, but at least he is not scared to play the game the way it was meant to be played…FULL BORE, FULL ATTACK. Replace Bradley with a coach that recognizes skilled players and demands that they also be smart and aggressive.

    TTB, you are truly nuts. Did you see the game against Guatemala last year when Heath Pearce got away with a clear hand ball in the box? If the ref calls that we draw at best. Did you see the Panama game a few years ago where they got a goal with 10 guys against our 11?

  6. TTB

    June 19, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Actually we’ve played pretty well under Bradley.

    The Costa Rica game as you said yourself Kartik was no different than other trips to Saprissa. The Brazil games you mention that we were close in were games where we lined up with 9 men behind the ball and prayed. Yesterday we actually played football. Same for the Italy games. In the past we’d be negative and limit the opposition chances. You never saw counter attacking goals against us because we never pushed up.

    I think Bradley is doing the best job of any coach we’ve had since I started watching in the mid 1990s.

  7. quakesin2kNever

    June 19, 2009 at 3:42 pm


    You are being way too harsh on the coach. Brazil’s team is a monster right now. They are not just the flashy only-offense type team in decades past. They score a lot on set pieces now too. They play a lot tougher defense.

    So we lost to two of the top 5 teams in the world while being man down for most of both games. What else would you expect would happen. It’s not Bradley’s fault that Klijestan made an idiotic tackle or that the ref was harsh on Ricardo Clark.

    We just need some personnel changes. DeMarcus Beasely and Conor Casey should never suit up for the USA ever again. Klijestan should be permanently benched.

  8. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    June 19, 2009 at 8:44 am

    Derrick, you’ve been preaching the one touch pass and go philosophy for years and have been spot on. But these guys don’t have any of the technical training they need and generally are tactically unaware also. The whole system has to be overhauled. Some newer fans have said this morning on various message boards “it was Italy and Brazil.” Again the simple response is these were the worst losses ever for the US against both countries in games not played in Brazil or Italy itself. That is making history in the wrong way.

  9. DerrickinSF

    June 19, 2009 at 1:28 am

    The reality is Mexico is not the measuring stick. There’s more then beating Mexico. It’s about developing a consistently winning program. like someone said a few posts back “Being better then Mexico means nothing.”

  10. Mexican football

    June 19, 2009 at 12:51 am

    Good point, Kartik. So many out there think that the usa is better than Mexico, but they ARE NOT. What matters is how you do in the World Cup. In the last one, Mexico went to the KO round while the USA died in the Group Stage. USA has only been better than Mexico in 1990 and 2002. That’s it. They are not better now, not until they can outlast Mexico towards the World Cup. Many people need to realize this.

  11. DerrickinSF

    June 19, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Kartik they never took the a lot the fundamental suggestions in the 2010 report to heart and acted on them. Regardless. This has been readily apparent even before the U.S. lost to Morrocco in the 2006 warm up. Sorry, if people understood the game they’d get it but. Where this a baseball team most of the players wouldn’t be able to catch, throw, hit the cut off man, or hit a breaking ball. I mean many of these players aren’t displaying the fundamentals.

    and you can look at the Seatle who ever they played MLS game from last night. Half of those guys have crap touch (and that pitch doesn’t help). But that’s basic fundamentals. And it’s systemic in American soccer. It starts well before they get to the national team. These players want 4 touches when they only get two. They shoot and never hit the goal. Did a single Donovan Free kick shot actually require a save. Yet he’ll continue to take free kicks, largely without criticism. Not to pick on him but he’s an example of how there is also there is a reticence to criticize these players. To say that’s not good enough. It wasn’t good enough in that crap game against Canada in the gold cup either and people just let that slide. And it’s not a simple issue of lack of passion, or picking the right captain, one formation over the other. It’s about attention to detail, learning proper technique, learning sound football decision making, and then working harder then anyone else on the planet to develop them. And then having a manager that doesn’t squander it. We have none of that and right now we’re just hoping to luck into it.

  12. Seybold

    June 19, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Beasley? Kljestan? On the pitch against Brazil?

    Bob Bradley may not have the goods as a coach, but his career as a standup comedian is off to a brilliant start.

  13. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    June 18, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Mexico has the respect of the footballing world because they perform very well at the International level, and they leave a very good impression. The opposite of what the USA is doing.

    Exactly. I told the Gaffer earlier tonight that even as poorly as Mexico has performed lately away from home they would never have been embarrassed in a game like today’s the way we were. As I mentioned last week Mexico more often than not beats Brazil. Heck the Mexicans showed remarkable character shaking off the 2007 Gold Cup final loss by defeating Brazil in the Copa opener three days later.

  14. Maitor

    June 18, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    ‘…Lets face it being better than Mexico means nothing…’
    With the small difference that the last time Mexico represented the Concacaf in a Confederations Cup, Germany 2005, they won against Brazil with Ronaldinho and Adriano included, and then played a memorable game against Argentina that went all the way to penalties! If Mexico would have won that game, they would have been in the final! Just like the one they won against Brazil in Confederations Cup 1999!!!

    Oh, one more thing…”Dirty Sanchez” got voted best goalkeeper of that tourney!…Any chance Howard will get that distinction this time around?

    Mexico has the respect of the footballing world because they perform very well at the International level, and they leave a very good impression. The opposite of what the USA is doing. But hey there is always August 12 at the Azteca to propel us on our pipe dream!!!

  15. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    June 18, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    The 1994 team wasn’t talented but they hung with brazil. The next year in the Copa they beat Argentina and again hung with Brazil in the semifinals. 14 years later after all these academies and alleged first division have been rolling we suffer our two worst defeats in 70 years to Italy and Brazil? Someone’s head better roll! We need a foreign coach!

    Listen to Phil Schoen on today’s podcast: he actually believes the 1994 team was more talented than this one. I would agree that the starting XI was clearly better but that was largely because the national team program under Bora had improved them as players. The team he inherited in 1991 wasn’t quite as good or battle tested.

    Copa in 1995 was in reality the high water mark for this national team. Some will say WC 2002 but recall there we beat an over hyped Portugal team and backed into the second round after being crushed by Poland. Mexico was about the weakest opponent we could draw in the second round. The Germany game was outstanding though. But compare that with beating Argentina 3-0, beating Mexico like in 1995 and then hanging with a Brazil team in the semis that were at the height of their post Pele power at that point in time.

    We did better when we had no pro league of our own and took a bunch of college kids.

    Yup that 1990 team was embarrassed in the first game by the Czechs but then showed grit and settled in almost drawing with Italy (the post was unkind as was the Walter Zenga’s behind )and then giving Austria a run for its money. Most of our guys then were college kids or semi professionals. In 1994 many of our players were actually under contract to the national team. Yet as Phil Schoen talked about today that team beat England, lost by a single goal to Germany and drew Italy in the lead up to the World Cup and then got to the 2nd round. The next year they got to the semifinals of the Copa crushing Argentina 3-0 along the way. Again at the time of that Copa we had no first division, only the A-League (now USL-1) which was decent and competitive but not anywhere near the current level of MLS or even current day USL-1.

    Remember project 2010? The U.S. would win the WC by 2010. It is not excatly going as planned. At this point, we won’t get out of the first round. American soccer is going backwards, worse than ‘98, ‘94.

    Rafael, that is an upcoming blog post. I still have the Q report which was part of Project 2010 with me and it is mind boggling that we may have actually regressed since the report was authored meaning we are nowhere near what we were supposed be accomplishing in 2009.

  16. Rafael

    June 18, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Remember project 2010? The U.S. would win the WC by 2010. It is not excatly going as planned. At this point, we won’t get out of the first round. American soccer is going backwards, worse than ’98, ’94.

  17. eplnfl

    June 18, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    What else can I say that has not been said. The thing that really hurts the most after all is said and done is the Egypt over Italy score. That highlights more then anything else the complete failure of US Soccer from the top on down. Be ashamed. Someone needs to be a man at the USSF or on the coaching staff and resign. We did better when we had no pro league of our own and took a bunch of college kids.

    To lose a game after a good effort is hard, to get beat when you know your not giving your best is a dishonor for the professional players we have. Shouldn’t the team Captain call a players only meeting at this point and clear the air. Someone needs to go public with the problem.

    The biggest obstacle to the growth of soccer in this county and the growth of MLS is the performance of the US Men’s team.

  18. Golstriker

    June 18, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    I agree with the comment that losing Juergen Klinsmann was a big mistake. But then it was compounded by bringing on a clown like Bradley. I’ve watched him coach through the years. Nice man off the field. But his assessment of talent is suspect, and his ability to coach in the big time is severely limited by his lack of experience. He never played at any level that is worth remembering. He has never coached at a high level (MLS is considered low-level soccer in most of the world). He has ridden the coat tails of Bruce Arena (another poser who went from playing lacross to somehow becoming a soccer coach). I can only come to the conclusion that Sunil Gulati passed on Klinsmann because he wouldn’t give him the authority that you know that Juergen must have needed. Frankly, I think they are afraid of foreign coaches because of the experience with Bora Milutinovich, who did a good job tactically with the team but was a nightmare off the field. They must still have bad memories of Bora idiosyncracies and oddities. Please, snap out of it Federation. Send this guy back to the minors and bring on someone who has immediate respect and credibility with the players. Bradley needs to go!

  19. Louis

    June 18, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    More players are playing in Europe than ever before so I hardly see how talent is the main problem. Even a weaker team should be able to pull out a draw or a close loss if they have the proper tactics. I dont understand how Beasely can be started despite his lack of play at Rangers, but Adu cannot get a whiff of playing time. I agree that most of this falls on Bradley but the whole USSF should be restructured. Perhaps EJ should be brought back into the mix hahaha. Since I believe the US has some talent in the youth system (the U-20 WC being a prime example) I dont see this as a 20 year undertaking more or less something to be done by Brazil 2014.

  20. Pat

    June 18, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    We will never get better until we have a respected Internataional coach with full control fo his line ups. No federation pushing how many crappy MLS players must be on the field. And yes the MLS does SUCK. Bradley needs to be fored immediatley and any FOREIGN COACH needs to be brought in. American coaches suck, and they will continue to suck for the next 40 years. Having a American coach at the International level is like having a high school coach at the NFL level.. it ain’t gonna work. Look at the recent performances, this team is getting worse, how do you go from crappy to S****Y ? Get a FOREIGN coach please.
    And Sunil Gulati SUCKS for keeping this no talent coach in charge.
    How in the hell do you let someone like Klinsman walk away? Because your a power hungry little man that’s why. Jerk

  21. Chivas and Colo Colo

    June 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    If Bradley really wanted to make a difference you need to give players a chance, Adu and Torres need to be on that field. Part of the reason Adu doesn’t have increased playing time is because he’s not allowed to display his talent on a world stage. Torres needs to be there, hell even throw Feilhaber in there. Edu also needs a chance to play, these younger guys have the creativity to do better. I’m even going as far as saying Donovan shouldn’t be in the starting 11 either, he may work hard but he can’t carry the ball, there’s a reason why he can’t survive outside of the states.

    Lets face it being better than Mexico means nothing. I’m sick and tired of watching boring long ball games and I’m depressed for Howard, he deserves better. And let it be known losing to brazil is no excuse, our boys need to play with heart and passion.

    Once again, USA doesn’t have my support until Bradley is out. Changes need to be made and there’s no way in hell I’m going to be embarrassed during another world cup again.

  22. Roger

    June 18, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    I’m sorry to say it, but this team is second or maybe third best, in CONCACAF. So scary. We only have a few players who have the confidence to hold or shield the ball. Only one or two willing to take someone on in the opposing half. We might as well just send them all home and call up the U-17.
    Spector looks good, Donovan, Howard, that’s it…What’s apparent is that our most senior players (Donovan, Beasley) are not leaders. This team has no character, no hustle, no pride.
    For starters, call up Eric Lichaj and let him play, he can’t do any worse than any other left back and he’ll be ready for 2014. Sasha is just not good or consistent enough, never will be… put in Torres or Adu, we need a true offensive threat down the middle, there is NOTHING there. So what if Adu lollygags, so does the rest of the team and he might produce some magic.
    Beasley is done, time to sit. Deuce needs to be pushed, call jeremiah white…call anyone, he’s too comfy. Come Jermaine Jones time, Bradley might have to sit. Jones will be the destroyer, need someone to direct traffic and be capable of playing a killer ball in the final third, that’s not Bradley. We’ll see if Bob Bradley has the guts to sit his son and do what’s right. Or we need to play five mids and three backs some time soon, because this is brutal.

  23. ryan

    June 18, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    wow…as long as gulati and bradley are involved with us soccer, i will refuse to be a fan. i love the MNT, but i cannot support something that is run by those two clowns.

    and your player ratings needed a lot more 1’s and 2’s. just an embarassment all around, from the front office to the managers to the players. although, you can’t blame the players entirely…because who would want to fight for bradley? i think the team officially has quit on him. he shouldn’t just be fired…he should be banned from the game in the United States. Period.

  24. Revs Till I die

    June 18, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    It’s clear from the starting lineup in every game that the US selection process is severely flawed. Same players, same old strategy and tactics. Insanity = doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
    I believe now that Bradley is operating within the severe constraints imposed by the USSF and Sunil Gulati. Until he’s gone and the USSF is overhauled top-to-bottom expect no progress.
    A lack of accountability for more than a decade has led to this sorry state of affairs. Bradley needs to go perhaps, but Gulati is the man to blame. Trust me I know, as a Revs fans.
    The General Motors of the football world…

  25. Cali Comet

    June 18, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Firing bradley and hiring a real coach is the only answer to saving our 2010 hope. I don’t understand the U.S. in their choices on coaches. In 1994 we hired a foreign coach and had as much success as we had in 2002. We got lucky in 2002 and played mexico but if we had drawn Brazil or Germany early then we would have lost early again. We need someone who knows how it is done on the highest level. What was the last major tournament a U.S. coach won? When was the last time we did ne thing in a tournament that didn’t have Concaf or MLS attached to the title.

    The 1994 team wasn’t talented but they hung with brazil. The next year in the Copa they beat Argentina and again hung with Brazil in the semifinals. 14 years later after all these academies and alleged first division have been rolling we suffer our two worst defeats in 70 years to Italy and Brazil? Someone’s head better roll! We need a foreign coach!

  26. Yank Gunner

    June 18, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Bob Bradley has the MLS, USL and college leagues to develop players–I know this isn’t anything compared to Youth Academy system in European and South American club systems, but if we had training facilities per area in the continental U.S. inviting players, and other national teams to play games, tournaments and interact then we can bring the installed system up to par. There are club teams in the U.S.A. that hare over hundred years old, not the MLS, or USL, and there is a tradition of soccer/football in tis country, and I don’t see it reflected in the USMNT! It is time to incorporate, fund the National Team, and create an ethos.

    Short-term fix: Scour the Earth for more Jermaine Jones’–other players in Europe, and hte America’s who are eligible! Sorry, but the situation is now is ridiculous.

    There needs to be someone in charge who has a vision for the program–no ore stale, cruise control politics.

  27. John Harris

    June 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    I’m just curious how long we will continue to put up with Bob Bradley as head coach. He has zero ability to read his opponents, zero ability to know when and who to sub, and zero ability apparently on teaching his boys to work as a team. I know the red card from the italy game was a joke, but the only reason we went up for a while is because Italy didn’t feel like playing until the 2nd half. Until the U.S. has a coach who will stress defense, no matter how poor his defenders are, stress teamwork, and really lead, we aren’t going anywhere. And as long as we allow the U.S. club to play as a bunch of individuals with no real leadership on the field, same result. Want soccer (which is really football..come on guys, football was football before american football, and really why would you call american football football when you play with ur hands?) to be a big sport beyond high school? Then the U.S. organizers need to decide it’s important, and stop hiring their pals to take jobs they are wholly unqualified for, and change the mentalities of the players we field on the pitch.

  28. J.V.R.

    June 18, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    Yes it’s true that we do not possess world class players, but at the same time we do have the players to complete with the top teams in the world, IT is the coach that must be replaced in order for us to make strides in the international game. I’m not saying that with a new coach we are going to become world class beaters overnight, far from it, BUT we need a coach that knows what is expected at the international level and what players he has at his disposal. Bod Bradley knows neither. US Soccer Federation must look at themselves and ask if it is just good enough to qualify for the world cup or to qualify and make an impact on the world level. Bod Bradley has put out a team that is neither imaginative or has the heart of past US teams. Why he keeps putting in players such as Demarcus Beasley or Conner Casey or Marvel Wynn I have no idea…where is the imagination in the midfield? We need a new coach that can take the US national team in the right direction. The best example is the English, they finally decided to go with an Italian coach and look at the improvements that have been made to there national team.

  29. Larry

    June 18, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Bob Bradley needs to be fired… sure our talent pool is not as deep as we thought but he has made questionable decision after questionable decision… this 4-5-1 formation is too conservative and doesn’t allow us to play with any fluidity or creativeness… our lone striker is hung out to dry and we dont have the quality personnel to play with only 1 striker why was Beasley and Klejstan playing? Their recent performances have been HORRIBLE…. Torres would have been better suited for a run… Look at the WC qualifier vs Costa Rica… Starting an inexperienced Marvell Wynne and playing Beasley at left back… all vs one of the best teams in the region on the road! And what about starting conor casey vs Honduras (and bringing him on vs Brazil)… Truth be told Bradley is out of his element vs world class competition… if we are serious about taking the next step then we need to hire a big time coach with international experience and succes

  30. john morrison

    June 18, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Bradley must go!!!!

  31. Ace

    June 18, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    I sent an email today to the US soccer federation imploring that they fire Bradley. I have been calling for his resignation since the Costa Rica game. I was never a fan of him and he has done nothing to disprove my feeling. He constantly fields unprepared teams. I am soooo embarrased to say i support American soccer, the current state is deplorable! The team he has is sooo undisciplined and heartless and that reflects solely on the coach. He states its hard to come back when you go down early, but as of recent we always go down early which once again brings me back to coaching. If Bradley had any character he would step down for the dismal performance HIS teams have put forth. Who gives a @#$% if they whoop up on the softies in CONCAAF. That is what we are supposed to do. What I care about is playing respectable against real teams, and showing heart, and showing discipline. Bradley’s son is average at best yet he still plays…. WTF?! I urge everyone to email the US Soccer Federation: ( or and fill out the form) and inundate them with emails calling for the replacement of Bradley with a QUALITY coach. It is not enough to replace Bradley with another hapless American coach. Lets go and get some international brass that can show our boys how soccer should really be played. My vote is for Jurgen Klinssman.

  32. Andrew

    June 18, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Kartik is part of the problem. Now while some people will say “Kartik has been predicting this for two years,” but part of the issue is in the past when we’d play Brazil and Italy better we didn’t have blabber mouths like Kartik and your jerk buddy Denholm who are always saying how horrible we are and how things were so much better than before. Do you think in this limited world of soccer blogs and radio that the players and coaches weren’t listening? Your constant negativity and comparing Bradley to Arena and Sampson and Dempsey to Reyna, Boca to Pope, Feilhaber to Harkes, etc has affected the team. Your constant cries of Adu and Torres has hurt the team. They don’t think they are good enough from listening and reading your crap, and play and coach like it.

  33. OPI

    June 18, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    1) I don’t think anyone thinks the real issue is we lost to Italy and Brazil. The issue is we played disorganized, dispirited, and error-prone football in both matches. It’s the coach’s job to have the team motivated and prepared tactically and in personnel for the match at hand. Bradley failed. There’s no reason he’ll do better a year from now. If anything, the team is clearly regressing. As Kartik has pointed out these were our worst performances against either Brazil or Italy in years.
    2) Why? Bradley created his own monster. He’s insisted on playing favorites regardless of form or fitness. Dempsey is gassed. He’s played too many matches in the last 18 months and he simply needs a break. Plays that worked for him in the Premiership don’t now because his legs are gone and his concentration wavering.
    Beasley is unfit and doesn’t play at club level, yet keeps getting time at a level he’s shown no aptitude for since his horrific knee injury. His confidence is shot and his game rusty. It’s not the place of the USMNT to restore those.
    Sasha Kljestan’s form has been disgraceful at club level (in MLS, even). But still he manages to get call-ups to the National team because of the night of his career against Sweden an age ago.
    Adu, Altidore, Feilhaber, Conor Casey, Beasley…all of these players do not play sufficiently at the club level. For a variety of reasons they are not match fit or prepared to play 90mins at the highest level. The result is failure after failure when they come on the pitch.
    Kenny Cooper, Stuart Holden, Torres, all of these players DO play well at the club level, and never get a sniff with Bradley because they aren’t on his “favorites” list. They are hardly the only ones. Say what you want about the end of the Arena years. The one thing that was true was players got into the side by form. They earned their Caps. That’s not the case with Bradley, who is entirely too willing to keep trotting out his favorites or the USSF’s darlings.
    It’s time to say, flat out, that if you don’t play for your club; if you’re not fit; if you’re not in form, you do NOT deserve or merit, and will not receive, a USMNT callup. This should be a simple rule. Almost every nation whose Federation is not run by their petty Dictator insists on it. Gulati and his yes men should not be dictating who is on the USMNT roster and call-up list. More needs to be done to dig up and KEEP US dual-citizen players, and that means firing Rongen, first and foremost.
    MLS is an important part of the puzzle in player development. But it’s never going to be enough. We need to be always be looking for talented dual-citizen players and ALWAYS looking to get them into our squad to augment our depth. It’s not enough to rely on the MLS players and those who get a lucky break in Europe. MLS is not, and never will be, the EPL, Serie A, or La Liga. And even with those nation, they aren’t above poaching hypenated nationality players when they can.
    Bradley needs to go, Rongen needs to go, and Gulati needs to be focused on the World Cup bid and stop playing General Manager of the USMNT.

  34. MikeJones

    June 18, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    i gotta say. How can Altidore score with so little quality service? If the only attack you can muster is boot it to a guy with his back to the goal you’re not going to have success. Even Torres suffers when Gerrard can’t supply him.

    The big problem is the midfielders still provide not passing and no service especially through the middle. Bradley was Ok but that’s not saying much. Well that’s not saying much. We don’t have any creative forces and when we get the ball our players are not required required to possess it. And that’s just one of many problems. I think a 3 is harsh. He didn’t squander 15 chances. He wasn’t given many. hell even if he hit the one they still lose 3 to 1. See that’s the problem. At his best you had no chance.

  35. Angel

    June 18, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Well I hear Phil saying it will be nice to have Jones on the Midfield and have bradley get on the phone and convience Castillo to switch to the USA…JAJAJA

    He you plan to bring Castillo when two Mexican American (Torres & Orozco) are not even playing cause Bradley doesn’t like something about does two guys.

  36. UofSC93

    June 18, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Beasley has seriously worn out this welcome – there is no logical explanation for him to start anything more than a meaningless friendlies. No one can argue that he’s the 22nd best American player much less the 222nd.

  37. Jack

    June 18, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Nobody in the USSF has the cahones to do what must be done. As for the hope of getting some hotshot European coach, it will not happen with bob bradley helping bring US soccer back to the stone age.

  38. Kevin_Amold

    June 18, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    I disagree. If speaking English is Scolari’s problem and it caused him to struggle to communicate with his players, why on earth would it not be a problem with the USMNT? He’s a proven commodity, but he’s a risk.

    I didn’t quite follow your Stan Van Gundy comment, but that’s not important.

    A point against Egypt is a MUST! At least…..

  39. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    June 18, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    We’re back online. Sorry for the server issues. Be sure to check out the podcast with Phil Schoen and Martin Rogers.

  40. Angel

    June 18, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Hahaha That is a good one Eric, Well Unless Roxanne Barr was my sister lol. Just kidding.

    Well look Peckerman is a good Coach and Lavolpe is well too, I’m tired of having this European Style of playing. One touch and Long ball we need a different style of playing more mix of European and South American. All this thats going on is all the USSF fault for hiring a Dumb Ass Coaches that don’t know much of Soccer starting from our youth Development coaches to the Senior. The only one right now that I think is doing the right thing is Waldimir Cabrera U17 National Team. He know tactics, Techniques and been to two World Cup as a player. He given the freedom to be creative and technical. that what we need in this USMNT.

  41. Juan

    June 18, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    This was what Brazil cared about yesterday prior to the US game. The Brazilian press mentioned that the national team was already training for the Italy game. In other words, the US has lost to a team that wasn’t even prepping for them. That is the worst part.

  42. Eric

    June 18, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    I don’t think we should compare Chelsea to the USMNT. It’s like saying Stan Van Gundy wouldn’t be a good coach for the Bobcats because he didn’t win a national championship.

    Scolari could take our team to places it’s never been, but he’s still not my first choice. Hiddink or Klinsman.

    At the risk of sounding like an idiot, I’d even gladly accept Sven.

  43. CleartheBall

    June 18, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Awful, awful, awful. I think every starting midfielder in the MLS would have been better than Beasley. These awful lineup decision must end. If Bob wants to keep his job, he needs to hire a great assistant who actually understands soccer strategy.

    I thought we drew a decent official for this match and then he listens to the idiot 4th official on the red card. I just want to see how we can compete with the best teams in the world at full strength. I wish FIFA would take a page from the NFL and tennis and have a 2 minute video review of all red cards and box penalties.

  44. Eric

    June 18, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Yes, but I don’t think we can compare Chelsea to the USMNT. You make a good point about his lack of desire to learn English, but surely we could afford to pay a translator to get the big points through.

  45. Kevin_Amold

    June 18, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Scolari was underwhelming at Chelsea. Talk was rampant that his command of English was part of his undoing. I’d have to say that if this caused a problem at Chelsea, it’s probable it would cause a problem with the USMNT. Risky move to “throw a boatload of money” at Big Felipe.

  46. Hal

    June 18, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Scolari, a World Cup winning coach in 2002, is now coaching FC Bunyodkor in Uzbekistan. From Chelsea to Uzbekistan. I bet he could get more out of this team.

  47. Eric

    June 18, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Is your name really Kevin Arnold? So are you related…? Just kidding.

    I don’t know about Scolari or Shearer either, I was just pulling names out of a hat really.

    Angel – I like all of your choices, but I like Hiddink the most because of his experience with developing raw talent into wins. Do I think it’s possible to get a Mourinho or a Ferguson? If we can buy David Beckham for 250 million dollars, we can afford anyone.

  48. Rafael

    June 18, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Bradley’s lineups and formations have been a joke.

    Bornstein cannot play at this level, why hasn’t Pearce played in the last couple of games? He had a bad game against El Salvador, but he is better than Bradley’s favorites. Spector should get a shot at LB once Hedjuk and Cherundolo are back. Demirit can’t play on this level either, and Califf deserves to be ahead of him in the lineup.
    Howard is getting too comfortable, he should have come out on the first goal. The kid, Robles deserves a look in goal.

  49. Angel

    June 18, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Eric here something I post it before on previous Artivcle

    Well I think we should start thinking of who can be the next coach for either for this World Cup or the Next one. Here are some name and let me know who would you like to take over the National Team
    Hus Hiddink, La Volpe, Pekerman, Bielsa, Scholari, Alex Ferguson, Frank Rijkaard, Juande Ramos (Ex Real Madrid Coach), Klisman, Vanderlei Luxemburgo, Coach, Erickson, Mourinho , El Coco Basile, Schuster, Louis van Gaa. etc. make your sugestion Please. And now you can add to the list Luis Aragonese ex-coach of Spain in the EuroCup and I believe he speak english.

  50. Kevin_Amold

    June 18, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Also, I don’t know about trying to get Scolari or Shearer. but I agree, we need to lure someone with talent to manage the team.

  51. Kevin_Amold

    June 18, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    I don’t get the author’s outrage over Feilhaber playing. First of all, I’ve found his performances to be at least tolerable, usually productive in my opinion. Second, it seems like he hasn’t even been playing often enough to complain about Bradley using him too often.

    That being said, the performance today was bad, and even I’m starting to turn on Bradley and Beasley. I love Clint, but he always seems to be on a different page than the rest of the squad. This is frustrating.

  52. LI Matt

    June 18, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    the likes of DaMarcus Beasley … continue to play regardless of performance.

    We’ll see about that now, won’t we? If Beasley gets any playing time vs Egypt after that howler today, then we’ll know.

  53. Angel

    June 18, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    I’m a Galaxy Fan and I had watching played time after time. I have seen how fustrated he used to get when beckham took most of the free kick, if you recall on Costa Rica right before the half time Torres make a free kick and was prefect thrown to one of our guy head, well anyways the were an some type of argument going on with Mastroeni and Donovan. It was like yelling at each other. So when the went to half time and when they came back to the field Torres was out the pic. So I know Donovan if my guy and he played good and give 100% when he wants to, but he has an ego so big and he like to act like Premadona.

  54. bayou

    June 18, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    I’ve seen similar remarks regarding Donovan and Torres/Adu other places. I’m wondering where can I find a source for these claims. And, if they are true, then why is Donovan still the poster boy for US Soccer? To me he is the single most disappointing US player time and time again, but people still rally around him and I just don’t get it.

  55. Pumas Fan

    June 18, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Football 101
    Until one of our defenders can get the ball from Howard and can pass it to a midfielder who can then pass it to a forward and we manage to take the ball the length of the field and get off a shot – rather than always relying on the long ball to the lone forward with his back to the goal – we deserve an “F” in the Football 101 class. Make all the lineup changes you want, but until we can accomplish that feat – at least ONE TIME in a match – there is no hope of advancing the program.
    I have to agree with Jamie Trecker, the USMNT has no defined style of play (other than lobbing the ball the length of the field to the lone forward) and until we get one, there is no hope of improvement. We will continue to go into Saprissa, San Pedro Sula, hell, even Port of Spain and be happy to steal a point from these nations, as opposed to dominating them the way that we ought to by now.

  56. Angel

    June 18, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Eric and Dave
    Reason Adu and Torres are in the Dog House is cause of Mr. Donovan. He doesn’t like people to take the spotlight away from him. Neither the free kicks. remember Adu and Torres are good kicker and the are lefty. some to think about. Ohhh cooper I think he had some type of confrentation with Donavan in a US Camp and he is too on the Dog House

  57. Mike FCNY

    June 18, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    I would have suggested Dominic Kinnear as a replacement but I just saw he’s with Houston until 2012.

  58. Eric

    June 18, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    I think we’re screwed for 2010. After that though?

    Throw a dumptruck load of money at Hiddink, Klinsman, Shearer, Scolari, Mourinho, or someone similar.

  59. Peter

    June 18, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    @ Aaron

    Totally agree. It’s obvious our expectations have risen faster than the talent level, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t demand change from the top down. Having a part-time head of our federation is a joke for a country of over 300 mil.

  60. Angel

    June 18, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    If Mexico can hire a coach at this moment of qualifying why not the USA, We are at least on verge of qualifying and has a chance to get to the world cup with or without Bradley. So if a new coach comes in has a time to scout new talent either in Europe, MLS or in our youth System Development. Javier is a good coach but we can hire someone like him that been there and done that. we need to change the face of this wonderful country and get the right players to represent us in the World cup. Bradley had almost 3yrs to get this team ready and he is not showing anything. So please Mr. Sunil Gulati you better get your act together and hire a new coach or else you too have to go.

    I think is time to see a different team, I don’t care if we loose at least it will show us a new face and different attitude. What there is to loose since we already out of this tournament. Is time to give the other a shot.




    I don’t care who play left on defense and who is the goal keeper but is time to get new blood in there. at least you owe us that Bob Bradley.

  61. Pumas Fan

    June 18, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    THE TIPPING POINT is coming. It has to.

    As more Americans get educated about how good football could and should be played (thanks to more access to matches on cable tv, internet streaming, the expansion of the USL, MLS, WPS, etc.), a critical mass of diehard, no B.S. American fans will emerge who will no longer stand by and accept the garbage of a National Team and US Soccer approach & philosophy that Sunil Gulati, Bob Bradley, et al., keep putting out there on the pitch. We don’t quite have the numbers yet to “burn down” (metaphorically speaking) the USSF system but the more inept the USMNT appear in matches and the more we get “Beasley’d” by atrocious lineup decisions, the more the educated football fan will unwrap that Sounders or Aztex scarf from around their own neck and place it around the collective neck of the USSF. May the Cluetrain pull into the station and damn quickly.

  62. Aaron

    June 18, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    This won’t get better until there are wholesale changes at USSF. It starts with the President (and whoever elects said president).

  63. Alejo

    June 18, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    ladies, gentleman, total humans. It is obvious BB must go, but who replaces him??

  64. Berlin

    June 18, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    I agree with Brian 100%. Bradley must go now or it will be too late. Tell US Soccer the same

  65. Dylan

    June 18, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    The favoritism starts at the top and rolls down hill. Bob Zombie is just a symptom of USSFBS.

  66. Kartik

    June 18, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    I’ll tell you this: there’s only three people who support Bob now. Some random idiot on bigsoccer, sunil the mexican, and bob. I bet his own son gets embarrassed of him.

  67. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    June 18, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Everyone is making such good points, I have little to respond to. Keep it up guys! 🙂

  68. Eric

    June 18, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    I vote for Donovan as player/coach for WC2010.

  69. dave

    June 18, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    remember when BB and donovan called for adu to play regularly at his club in order to have a “role” with the national team?

    well, jozy hasn’t even played a single game at xerez while freakin davies has been phenomenol with hammarby. but jozy gets to start?

    and benny and weasley beasley hardly plays for their respective club and gets the start over torres?

  70. Brian

    June 18, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    If there was ever a time to make a coaching change before South Africa 2010, now is that time. The new coach will have Gold Cup to get his feet wet and get familiar with his team, that way Azteca won’t be his first match.

  71. Berlin

    June 18, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Now that I’ve had time to quit pounding the wall…Beasley hasn’t played well in six years. He’s done and should be off the team until he can prove otherwise. Dempsey should be our best player but he mails it in for Bradley. Klejstan isn’t playing for his MLS team but starts for the MNT?!? Jozy is a pure striker and can’t be expected to hold up or create in lone forward position. Our midfield was behind the play all game and we play a lot of kickball. Bob is the problem and it needs to be addressed or we are going to fall off the map.

  72. Eric

    June 18, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Bradley is a good coach. But good coaches don’t cut it at the national level. We have some great players. We need a great coach to bring out their best.

    Oh, and it would be cool if sometime over the next 13 months Jozy Altidore could learn to trap the ball. Or have a first touch at all, actually.

  73. Jack

    June 18, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Apparently the qualities Bob Bradley likes are players that run around like a chicken with its head cut off, have a horrible first touch, haven’t looked dangerous in years, like to make late challenges that deserve getting sent off. Some things that Bob Bradley doesn’t like players that can string together passes, an ability to take players on 1 v 1, an actual understanding of how to play the game.

    On a side note, why is it that the team that is fielding a full 11 players uses all of its subs while Bob Bradley doesn’t seem to think using his 3 subs is a good idea. Call me crazy, but I think it should be the other way around.

  74. Peter

    June 18, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    I thought Bradley was doing an acceptable job going into this summer. But now I’ve almost lost all confidence in him. The team selection has been ridiculous. The substitutions are inexplicable. And the formation change indefensible. Why are we isolating Altidore up top? Has he shown the ability to pull off 1v2, or 1v3 miracles in training? Hell, it would be nice just to see him beat someone 1on1. I’m not sure why or how it happened, but we’ve lost all cohesion. But the blame definitely has to be on the coaching. I’m going to have to take a place in the Denholm (sp?) camp and hope that the USSF decides to completely restructure/reorganize after we leave SA with 0 points. But it’s not likely.

  75. Jason

    June 18, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    I know there will still be some pro Bradley individuals, but this team has clearly regressed since 2006. With the current setup, the us will fight for third place the rest of qualifying with only 2 games left at home.

  76. bayou

    June 18, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    I agree with what Dave is saying.

    I know people want to point to the refs all the time and there is truth in the claim that the US gets shafted. But we’ve been getting shafted for decades now. The rest of the world doesn’t like our team, our politics, our whatever. The US needs to play smarter and better because of it.

    Yeah, it’s frustrating to get chopped down by Mexico and Guatemala without them being penalized; but we just have to accept that that is the culture. It isn’t going to change. But we can change how we play and behave on the pitch. BB should have these guys ready to play and to not make reckless challenges that, for 99% of the other teams won’t be red cards, for us will be red cards.

  77. dave

    June 18, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    if we win the gold cup with our b-squad, that should say something about CONCACAF.

    lets see who BB subs in and didn’t

    in: casey; scores goals in MLS
    not in: davies; scores goals in swedish Allsvenskan league.
    i’ll take davies over casey

    in: feihaber; barely sees playing time for AGF, who?
    not in: 1) torres; regular for pachuca, probably better than any MLS team right now 2) adu; skill, composure, and very attack minded

    we still had another sub left, why the heck didn’t BB even use it? we had nothing to lose. down 2-0 and he brings in casey and benny, pretty dumb decisions.

    oh, and can someone tell kljestan and clark this is not MLS. they can’t freakin go in tackling people late and stuff and not expect to possibly see red.

    is there someone more powerful than gulati that can fire him?

  78. Omar

    June 18, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Unbelievable and embarrassing,

    Bradley difinelty must GO

    He has done nothing for the team.

  79. efar

    June 18, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Bradley must go!

  80. Berlin

    June 18, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Today was humiliating and disheartening. Something must change or US Soccer will suffer a setback of NASL proportions. Forgive my hyperbole, but I’m not feeling great about our flagship club right now.

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