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More Mexican Misery: Islanders Out of CONCACAF after PKs


Taking a 2-0 lead back to Mexico for an MLS or USL side in a Continental competition should never be permitted. For third time in three years a team from one of North America’s leagues has blown a two goal aggregate lead heading into the second leg. Ironically, however the result ended up being affected by CONCACAF’s rules that have changed over the past few years.

In the old Champions Cup, CONCACAF did not use away goals. Had the away goals rule been applied, Houston would have advanced to the CONCACAF Champions Cup final in 2007 defeating Pachuca. Instead, Pachuca advanced after scoring a winning goal in extra time.

Earlier this year, the Montreal Impact knowing CONCACAF was now using the away goals rule scored two away goals at Santos, meaning they’d advance on a tied aggregate score, but gave up two goals in stoppage time, the final one clearly offsides and we eliminated at the hands of the Mexican side.

Then last night, much of the American TV audience was under the impression for most of extra time that the Puerto Rico Islanders would advance on a drawn aggregate score because of a goal in extra time. However, we discovered late in the second stanza of extra time that goals scored after the initial 90 minutes away from home do not count as away goals (as they do in UEFA and COMENBOL) and thus the Islanders went to PKs with Cruz Azul and predictably lost.

Also, let’s not forget that DC United lost in the Copa Sudamericana second round in 2007 to Chivas because COMNEBOL did apply the away goals rule at the time in their competition.

Mexican sides are clearly superior to MLS or USL sides. Anyone who watched the Mexican League and has also watched MLS or USL can clearly state that. For all the talk that MLS is balanced, Mexico has produced far more competitive teams than any other league in the Americas.

In fact, I would strongly argue based on watching world football from all over the globe that top to bottom the Mexican League is one of the top seven leagues on the planet and is easily the best league in the Americas. The top teams in Brazil and Argentina tend to be better than the top Mexican teams, but the 10th best teams in those top South American leagues are almost always badly outclassed when compared to the top teams in Mexico.

This all having been said, it’s ironic that MLS or USL cannot buy a break against Mexican clubs. The last significant, cup determining victory for a US based club in a legitimate continental competition over Mexican opposition was DC United’s 1-0 win at RFK Stadium in a one leg final of the 1998 CONCACAF Champions Cup.

Last night, the Islanders defended well but Cruz Azul a man down for much of the match were able to get two goals in regulation time, both from long range. But Puerto Rico kept its shape well for much of the match, determined to defend and organized by a top class goalkeeper.

Then in extra time after the Islanders got a goal from Sandy Gbandi, Puerto Rico was reduced to 10 men with an injury to Christian Arrieta and a rare goalkeeping mistake by Bill Gaudette led to an equalizer: at the time many of us thought it wasn’t an equalizer because the away goals rules was thought to apply to extra time.

Puerto Rico did not do a good job of counter attacking in the first half but early in the second half Colin Clarke jumped the gun sensing he needed a goal and replaced Josh Hansen with Kendall Jageosingh. But an injury to Nicholas Addlery meant that Jageosingh had to carry the Islanders attack late, something he isn’t used to doing and something that was bound not to work.

While Clarke can be criticized for making the move when he did, especially in light of Addlery later injury, the manager felt he needed to make a change in light of the dominance of Cruz Azul. The move no doubt backfired, but Clarke cannot be blamed for trying.

The Islanders had a wonderful run in the CONCACAF Champions League. But as has been the case in every CONCACAF final since 2001, no team from the United States will be in the final while a team from Mexico will be in the final, in this case two teams. In 2000, the LA Galaxy faced Olimpia of Honduras in the CONCACAF Champions Cup final.

The Islanders can take solace in the fact that they pushed the most decorated club in CONCACAF’s history to the brink and a PK shootout. But like every other MLS or USL club they came up short on Mexican soil.

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  1. Mexican Football

    April 15, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Argueta- That US league had 4 teams, the same as Mexico. They only had 2 in the group stage because the other 2 lost in the preliminaries. That’s how pathetic that league is. So you fail.

    YES, the superleague is a series of friendlies. Mexican teams don’t take it seriously. It’s their preseason and they don’t want their players to get hurt. It’s a sham tournament and all true football fans would rather see it go away.

    Riordan- If the CONCACAF used the same coefficient rating as the UEFA does, you’d see that the US league comes in 3rd. Numbers don’t lie.

    The Impact and Islanders are not from U.S. proper. Only 1 team from the U.S.’s “top” league made the quarterfinals as opposed to 4 from Mexico. That further proves that the U.S. league does not deserve 3 guaranteed spots.

  2. Chris Riordan

    April 12, 2009 at 11:29 am

    I have to say that I am impressed with how the two USL -1 franchises played, especially considering that they were in preseason form … granted, I’m sure they had extra training for the CCL. They both beat good teams and put up a valiant effort. And I don’t know about re – allocating the CCL slots. Mexico deserves the 4 and so does MLS, I believe. While, they did struggle (besides Houston) last year … MLS as a whole stands up to any other league in CONCACAF. Sure, the top two in Costa Rica, Honduras and maybe Panama can be real tough to beat. But not collectively, outside of those teams. MLS as a league, I believe, is stronger.

    Why change the slots … only one team that wasn’t from in a Mexican or US – based league made the quarterfinals – Marathon of Honduras.

  3. Magin Argueta

    April 12, 2009 at 12:44 am

    Who the hell do you think you are. The know it all that does not even want to give his name. All you are is a Mexican fan as your name says. Who are you to say that Mr. Kartik is right. He is just a Mexican football fan as you are. Mr. Kartik has not proved me wrong. Everybody knows that the Mexican teams are at home in the USA. They have most of the fans, their own food, their own tv, radio, etc. He has not proved that the Mexican league is the best of the Americas either. You are a tipical Mexican fan Hugo Sanchez style. Excuses, excuses, excuses. The superliga is a series of friendlies! What a loser. What are you so into the CONCACAf champions league. The MLS only had 2 teams to 4 from Mexico. Cruz Azul made it to the second round with the help from Marathon. Santos and Cruz Azul barely beat 2 USL teams that are not even in season shape. Wow. If that makes you proud go ahead.

  4. Mexican Football

    April 11, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Kartik did a good job of completely embarrassing Argueta. Good job, Kartik.

    Argueta, learn something about the game before commenting on it. The Superliga is nothing more than a series of friendlies. The CCL is the official tournament of this region. Look at the record between Mexico and the USA in the CONCACAF Champions Cup/League.

  5. Magin Argueta

    April 11, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Well. If it is not worth debating you should have never sais that the Mexican League is the best of the Americas and talk about the MLS in the same article. In regards to France as a natinal team winner. let me tell you. The France league is one of the 5 best in Europa and one of the 7 best in the World (Mexico is not there though, sorry). Besides, France has had some of the best players in the world (Zidane, Platini). All of those 7 countries with the best leagues have either won a major soccer tournament (world cup, eurocup, copa america) or a major soccer club tournament (champions, UEFA Cup, libertadores, world club championship). Just in case you are courious about my ranking. Here it is: England, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Germany, Argentina and France.

  6. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    April 11, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Mexican teams are NEVER at home in the US.

    The majority of the fans may be Mexican but let’s review some facts

    – MLS teams stay at home and play in their city. Mexican teams travel and stay in a hotel in true road fashion.
    – MLS teams are comfortable in their home city and home stadium. Mexican teams have traveled into to town in the last 24-48 hours and are in pre season form.
    – MLS teams travel notoriously badly. CONCACAF results over the last 8 tournaments for MLS are not an accident. The league, though I support it and watch it ever week isn’t good by any logical international standard.

    MLS has won the majority of home games against EPL sides on US soil over the last 10 years. Does that put MLS on equal footing with the EPL when you consider that many of the fans that have shown up to the games have been cheering for the English side!

    People like Ric have in the past accused me of being obsessive about comparing MLS to other leagues. But it’s posts like this where MLS people wrongly begin comparing its product to international leagues where the real comparisons come, and why as a watcher of world football I’m compelled to regularly correct the record.

    MLS is nowhere near the overall quality of the FMF. It’s isn’t even close nor worth debating. Can MLS compete in a one week tournament held at home? Sure, in fact MLS sides could compete with EPL and La Liga sides in the same circumstances. Much like Canada always plays well in the one/two week Gold Cup but never does well over the long haul of World Cup qualifying. MLS teams lack the depth nor consistency to compete at the high level Mexican teams do over time. That is a fact borne out by 10 plus years of evidence.

    The national team debate has no merit at all. The vast majority of US national team players play in Europe and besides if we base quality of national teams on leagues, France never would have won a World Cup, a Euro and made another World Cup, and England would win everything this decade.

  7. Magin Argueta

    April 11, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Mr. Kartik,
    That feeling of superiority is the one that has Mexico second to the US at the national team level. That will also take care of the leagues in the near future. The fact that they play superliga in Americal soil is a lame excuse when it cames to Mexico. Mexican teams always play at home in the US. The same happens when the national teams play. The only games in neutral ground that I can remember were played at the national team level in Copa America 1995 when the US eliminated Mexico to make it to the semi-finals and in the 2002 Korea Japan World cup where the US took the Mexican National team out. Ah, they also played a game in Europa to qualify for the Italy 1934 world cup and guess what, the US won that too. I am not from the US or Mexico and I do not think I am biased. I think Mexican league football is boring. I have been forced to watch it with friends when I visit there homes. I have told them that though. A lot a South and Central American fans watch it because they have players for those countries. I am not going for that.

  8. Kartik Krishnaiyer

    April 11, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Superliga is held on American soil in MLS home stadiums exclusively.

    It cannot be factored into the equation at all. Even as a proponent of MLS I reject any comparisons between the leagues. So many MLS fans do not watch any FMF games not involving MLS or USL teams and thus are told the leagues are competitive with one another when in fact the MLS top to bottom is probably less competitive with the FMF than it is with even Ligue Un or the Erevidese.

    I’d urge MLS fans to watch a Mexican game or two and then come back to me and tell me MLS is comparable. If you do think it is comparable you’re probably just biased.

  9. Magin Argueta

    April 11, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Mr. Mexican Futbol.
    Obviously you are a Mexican Football fan. How convinent that you forgot who was in the final of the last in superliga. Let me refresh your memory. The superliga is played by the same number of MLS and Mexican teams. How is it that 2 MLS teams were in the final this year. I know, when it comes to loses excuses will probably be mentioned. I hope you do not find an excuse for the way Mexican teams performed in this year’s superliga. If we go by your logic of assigning teams by merit, then Mexico should only have 1 team in the Libertadores because they have never won it and this year only Chivas has done a good job. Let me tell you one more thing; the reason a lot of non-mexicans know about the Mexican league is because ESPN deportes, Univision, Telemundo and Fox sports en Espanol do not cover anything but Mexican football. They do that because the Mexican community is very large, not because of quality.

  10. Mexican Football

    April 11, 2009 at 1:28 am

    Argueta, you’re saying the U.S. league is almost as good as the Mexican league??? Are you high??? No way in hell!! Look at the Concachampions results. mexico did way better, by far.

    The USA does not deserve 4 spots in the next concachampions. I really hope Warner does the right thing and re-allocates spots.

    Argueta, stop drinking the garber kool-aid. his league is crap

  11. M. Argueta

    April 10, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Mr. Kartik.
    I will reffer you to the Libertadores cup as we speak. The 5 Brazilian teams are in the qualifying area. 3 of them are leaders in their groups, the 4th team (sport) is not leader because they lost to another Brazilian team this week. Only one of the Mexican teams is doing fine (Chivas). Ah, great teams like Corinthians, Flamengo, Fluminense and Internacional are not even participating. If you want to see the most competitive league in the world, there is a all soccer channel in the US that will have the Brasileirao beginning May. I do not know if you like the NFL but the Brasileirao has the same feeling. During preseason, it feels like everybody has a change.

  12. Kartik

    April 10, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    I actually think the 10th place FMF team would have a good chance against any 10th place team in any other league. Top to bottom it’s tough to dispute the quality of the Mexican League. The top teams aren’t as good as the top teams in many other leagues, but the balance from top to bottom is outstanding and while some clubs like America, Cruz Azul and Chivas have far more support than other clubs they don’t have far more money which makes the league more competitive and compelling.

  13. M. Argueta

    April 10, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    The reason CONCACAF has made the rule the way it is is because they are protecting the Mexican teams. If you look back in most competitions, the Mexican teams play the last game at home. It seems like they always have home field advantage. Sometimes they earn it but when it comes to smaller teams from central america and the caribean, the Mexican teams have previledges.

  14. The Great Attila

    April 10, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    This is ridiculous. PR gets an away goal, and all of a sudden it doesn’t count. I think CONCACAF has to put that away goals to count like UEFA if they want their Champions League to be taken seriously. Now its nothing more than a exhibition for Mexican clubs. Why the hell would anyone take this seriously now?

  15. M. Argueta

    April 10, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Beautiful. I found a site to talk soccer. But, what is the writer of this article saying? The Mexican League the best of the Americas? What a joke! I follow the Brasileirao and there is no comparison. The Brazilian league is made up of a great number of players one year before or one year after of playing in the best leagues in Europe. Mexican league? Not even close. I do not follow the Argentinan league closely but it is obvius that that league is miles ahead the Mexican league. By the way, I am not from South America and I call it like it is. Now, the US national team is by far the best in CONCACAF. The MLS is almost as good as the Mexican league. It will not be long until the MLS will be the best league in this region. I am really happy that US soccer is growing the way it is. Go LA Galaxy.

  16. The Footballer

    April 10, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Hmmm. You must be a gridiron fan then. Personally, I have no interest in that sport. It’s an inferior version of Rugby, nothing more.

  17. Lars

    April 10, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    I know I don’t. I personally could care less. It’s not that big of a deal.

    It sounds a lot worse to the ear to call pointy ball football “gridiron” than it is to call round ball football “soccer”.

  18. The Footballer

    April 10, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Intru, I know my football history.

    Yes, I know the origins of the word. But that word is no longer used today, as it’s an outdated term. Yet many (not all, thank God) Americans still use it like a bunch of idiots.

    All the other terms for the sport are acceptable (even “footy”) except the word most Americans call it. That word is goofy and should NOT be associated with football. Don’t tell me you feel that’s the appropriate label for The Beautiful Game. As a fan, don’t you cringe when you hear it used?

  19. Intru

    April 10, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    The Footballer, learn some history.

    Soccer is a term invented by the English themselves at a time where Rugby football was more popular. Soccer is derived for the full name of the sport Association Football. And in latin america the name is incorrectly slanged “futbol” if yo want to be correct since this is spanish and not english you would call it balonpie like in PR where we use Balonpie and Soccer as the term for the sport.

  20. The Footballer

    April 9, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Bernard was spot on in all his posts. He’s right that the game is FOOTBALL. Good thing Kartik recognises that too. Hats off to him.

    The CONCACAF Away Goals rule is spot on. No team should be given 30 extra minutes to score an advantageous away goal. 90 minutes for each team. It’s only fair.

    All you whiners and complainers and excuse makers need to shut the hell up. You all saw how CLEARLY the Islanders were dominated, despite their one-man advantage. Blue Cross deserved that victory.

    There’s nothing else to say. The Mexican Football Federation completely OWNS CONCACAF club football. Not a single Mexican team was eliminated by a non-Mexican. The last 3 teams alive were Mexican. It’s a beautiful thing.

    Kartik is right in that the 10th best team in the MFF would beat the 10th best teams in the Brasil and Argentine leagues. Good comment, Kart.

    So Mexican club football dominates American club football. But what about the Mexican national team vs the American one? The latest chapter in this rivalry has not been written yet. We will not find out who is better until one is eliminated before the other in or before South Africa (probably in). Until then, no one really has bragging rights.

    Here’s hoping Mexico outlasts team USgAy. At least they call it football down there, and they don’t even speak English!

  21. Bernard

    April 9, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    I apologize if i was rude to MLS in general, but i was just reading some forums on the web that were talking bad against mexican football and i read that comment about Jeff and it was kind of pathetic.
    The bottomline is that MLS is growing and ACTUALLY US national team is better than Mexican, but the only fact against US national team as i mentioned before its that they haven’t beat us in Mexican soil, but in league level there is no way MLS is as good as FMF..
    no hard fellings its just that i’m a big worldwide football and i like to give my opinions
    by the way, i just saw this website and i found it very cool
    once again i apologize to all of you MLS fans, i mess up i accept it
    see yaa

  22. J H

    April 9, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    The away goals rule is a sham in CONCACAF.

    Puerto Rico should be in the final.

  23. PotroFan

    April 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    to IrisgCR
    Atlante plays in Cancun which is at sea level; wnat do you mean by Houston palying at High Altitude in Mexico against Atlante?

  24. Bernard

    April 9, 2009 at 6:36 am

    by the way that comment about foreign players only shows me your lack of knowledge in the world of football, ignorant… so what about Spain that won the last EURO, are you telling me that there are no foreign players in La Liga?
    England is not a good national team because the EPL has a lot of foreign players?
    Italy won the last world cup because only italian players play in the calcio?
    jajajaja just pathetic your comments…absurd…, i’ve recommend to you to see beyond MLS jgjgjg, there is a whole world out there to see, in this case FOOTBALL (because thats the main topic here) so your comments only tells me that you are just a newbie in the world of FOOTBALL and you need to watch more international games of diferent kinds of leagues,
    so if you want to debate about something come on dont be shy, i watch games from leagues and eliminatories from: CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, EURO, ASF and CAF.
    so i suggest to stop watching baseball and start watching games from all around the globe to say better comments tahn the ones you just wrote and denotes ignorance all over you!!

  25. Bernard

    April 9, 2009 at 6:22 am


    i never mentioned the national teams, and if i had, i’ve said US only beats us in US soil, wait till they come to the Aztec Stadium jeje, we got more trophies at national team level and in league level as well so if i were you i’ll start training to win the next confederations cup in south africa (a cup that mexico already has won it, against brazil) so read a little bit about FOOTBALL, not soccer like you american dummies call it.

  26. Brazilian Fan

    April 9, 2009 at 3:02 am

    I stopped to read when you said that the 10th best teams in Brazil and Argentina would be beat easily by Mexican top teams. Thats show how you DO NOT know about the leagues and DO NOT watch them. Yeah, the best teams in Mexico would probably win the games, but outstand the best 10th teams in Brazil and Argentina is just a LIE!!! Mexico League the best one in America? Come on, what is that? Its a joke right?

    Thats no question that Brazil and Argentina leagues are better than Mexico league. Mexico League is good, but not better than both leagues. I really like your articles Kartiff and think that you are one of the best writers of MLS, but you need to watch Brazil and Argentina League (and NOT Libertadores) before judge and say anything about it. Perhaps you will see that you are wrong considering Mexican league the best in America.

  27. Cris

    April 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Are you all sore losers or what?
    Okay, so CONCACAF changed the rules this year to disallow away goals in extra time. It is strange, granted. I have heard arguments in favor and against this determination.
    However, the point is the following. NO MLS TEAM MADE IT TO THE SEMIFINALS!! If they had they would have benefited from the same rule.
    Secondly, the referee was blatantly… BLATANTLY… pro Islanders. And yet they didn’t manage to beat a 10 man squad.
    Therefore, accept the facts. Cruz Azul played their arses off and deserved their win, regardless of the away goal rule. Mind you, away goals are a relatively recent change in the rule book.
    If an MLS team had made it to the semis (which they would have done only through divine intervention), they would have benefited from this rule. the point is 3 of 4 teams in the Semis are from Mexico. That’s all there is to it. Twice they pulled off amazing comebacks. Enough said. Accept the facts, Mexican League dominates CONCACAF, as they should given the purchasing power of the league. That’s it. Why does the EPL do well in the Champions League? They spend the money. Its not rocket science.
    This is not to say that Mexico is better, as we plainly see that El Tri has lost it’s way. The Mexican League is better than MLS and USL. The facts speak for themselves. Just like the US team is better than El Tri. The facts speak for themselves.

  28. bq

    April 8, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    I thought it was interesting that PR played the Austin Aztex in a preseason friendly last Saturday and didn’t play particularly well. The game ended as a draw so just for practice they ended the match in a shoot out. Guess who won…Austin. Perhaps a foretelling of what was to unfold on Tuesday night.

  29. AVR

    April 8, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    The away goals rule is supposed to apply at all times or not at all. I don’t understand CONCACAF’s selective application.

  30. JOHAS

    April 8, 2009 at 5:11 pm


    I went to bed last night at the end of the first extra time. I tried to stay up but couldn’t. I saw this morning the final and thought that the Islanders won, and then found out they lost on PKs.

    FSC said away goals counted. WTF?

    How can away goals count for 90 minutes and not in the last 30?

    CONCACAF cannot be taken seriously with these strange rules.

  31. Jeff

    April 8, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Bernard- why do all your teams need foreign players to win if Mexican football is so great. Why does your national team struggle to beat Honduras, Jamaica and Guatemala???????????????????

  32. Jeff

    April 8, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    CONCACAF sux!

    The Islanders got an away goal. In any other confederation they win. Same for the Dyanamo a few years ago.

    These rules are skewed as someone said above to favor the Mexican teams.

    How fair is it that Cruz Azul gets 30 extra minutes at home?

    Where is the golden goal rule then?

    Some of you may watch the final, but I won’t be. You either have away goals or you don’t. You either seed teams based on strength or you don’t. CONCACAF straddles the fence and the results seem pre ordained.

  33. Bernard

    April 8, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    MLS and USL suck jaja, there is no more to tell, they always end up like that…
    because they suck and soccer like you americans call it would never be as good as Mexican cause we have something you guys dont got… History

  34. HJAORM

    April 8, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    USL and MLS teams both have a lack of technical skill and positioning sense. I notice it every time an MLS team plays a side from better league and noticed it last night with the Islanders. Simple tactics, poor technique, an inability to hold the ball, etc, etc. Houston-Atlante from a few weeks ago all over again.

  35. MLS: Love it or Leave America

    April 8, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Ian- you are a tool.

    First off, CONCACAF has no seeding process for teams in the Champions League nor did they have any in the Champions Cup. Houston scored two away goals at Pachuca in 2007 and didn’t get rewarded with the away goals which would have meant no extra time and then Pachuca got an extra 30 minutes at home to win.

    Based on the 2008 form, Houston should have been a higher seed than Atlante but had to travel there for the second leg this year.

    Then last night an away goal doesn’t count? How is that possible? What entitles Cruz Azul to 30 more home minutes when they aren’t seeded higher, because CONCACAF DOES NOT SEED TEAMS.

    Now the FIFA rule book which I consulted last night said that away goals in extra time count as away goals. But since Jack Warner scams FIFA for tickets anyhow, the rules don’t apply to him.

    Recall in the first leg Puerto Rico had a clear PK not called. Brian Dunseth even brought it back up yesterday.

    The refs at the direction at CONCACAF had to keep the scoreline manageable to give the Mexican team that will inevitably sell more tickets than the USL team a shot to make money for Jack Warner. After all Warner is about lining his pocket.

    But these very questionable perhaps fixed results give Kartik and Ian their ilk an opportunity to rip MLS, to rip USL and to rip US Soccer and I don’t like it.

  36. Ian

    April 8, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    MLS love it or leave it cute nickname, but little about your rant makes sense.

    Why should Puerto Rico be given a 120 minutes to score and away goal while Cruz Azul was given only 90? How would that be fair?

    Cruz Azul is the better team and got the second leg at home. All Mexican teams host home legs second because they are the better teams. If 8 mexican teams were in this event the eight best teams would be mexican. As it is the four best teams were Mexican. The MLS and USL teams have to take a number in line after them.

  37. MLS: Love it or Leave America

    April 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    I don’t understand the rules. When Puerto Rico scored I thought they had gotten an away goal.

    So then it’s fair that Cruz Azul gets an extra 30 minutes at home but any goal scored in that 30 minutes is not an away goal. WTF kind of rule is that.

    I love how CONCACAF always protects the mexican teams. Maybe the thought of an American team in the final of these tournaments one of these days has Warner so scared of losing money he fixes the rules and the games?

    Did the Islanders even know that Gbandi’s goal was not an “away” goal. I still don’t understand the rule. Can you make sense of it?

  38. TTB

    April 8, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    kartik, i know you like to over emphasize the results of mls and usl’s friendly wins over english teams and any team they may get a result against mexican teams, but this game was like watching a record. Ever y game with a usl or mls team in mexico is almost exactly the same. defensive shell, false hope and ultimately a loss.

    the game literally made me sick. also, if you say dc united beat spurs one more time i am going to throw up. you do realize it was a charity game?

  39. TTB

    April 8, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    kartik, i know you like to over emphasize the results of mls and usl’s friendly wins over english teams and any team they may get a result against mexican teams, but this game was like watching a record. Ever y game with a usl or mls team in mexico is almost exactly the same. defensive shell, false hope and ultimately a loss.

    the game literally made me sick.

  40. Cali Comet

    April 8, 2009 at 11:52 am

    This was a typically scared and defensive performance from an American team in Mexico. Give the Islanders credit for the extra time goal but Clarke was too defensive and then got unlucky with the Addlery injury.

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