Premier League Sunday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread

On the first Sunday of Premier League action after the end of the international break, there are two mouthwatering matches in store.

The first between Manchester City and Tottenham is a match that City desperately needs to win, or at least get a draw, if they’re serious about the Premier League title ambitions. City are currently in ninth place in the league, while Tottenham are in seventh. But a win for Tottenham here would be a huge statement from the London club.

For viewers in the United States, here’s where you can watch both matches on television today:

Man City vs Tottenham, 8:30am, NBC Sports Network
Cardiff vs Man United, 11am, NBC Sports Network, mun 2

In the second match of the day, Ryan Giggs gets a chance to play against the city where he was born. The last time Manchester United played Cardiff in the league was 1974. Cardiff fans will be hoping that they can do the double over the Manchester clubs at home this season, while Manchester United will want to continue to build on their momentum against Cardiff.

Before, during or after today’s matches, join the conversation with fellow soccer fans in the comments section below.

Have a wonderful Sunday!


65 thoughts on “Premier League Sunday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread”

  1. Little off topic but there's a great little programme on BBC Radio 4 "Football's Loyal Fans" following a group of Wolves fans making a huge roundtrip trek to a meaningless midweek game at Carlisle. It perfectly illustrates what it's like to be a true football fan.

    It's on the Radio 4 listen again function at

  2. Guidetti available as a sub for City. For those unfamiliar, he is something of a unicorn of the City-verse. Endlessly discussed but almost never seen. (The lad has had multiple issues with injury and illness.)

    Strongest XI for City going, with exception of Hart, who I'd have gone back to.

    1. Strongest in absence of Komps and Silva, of course. But still. Had nightmares of seeing Garcia's name in there somewhere and glad to see those not come true.

      1. Marc L
        good luck to your City Vinnie is never good but Spurs have been off in the offensive zone.City 3 Spurs 1 Kun gets a brace.sorry Dust.

        1. Thanks! Hope something like that comes off. Home form is 15 points from 15, 20 goals for and 2 against.

          Pity about the other side of that coin, which is a shocking one.

          No option other than 3 points here. Otherwise it is time for me to firm up my travel plans to go see Europa League matches at the Sheriff of Moldova or whatever next fall.

  3. Can't believe Spurs are 4-1 today. Can't say as I've seen them this season but I've seen citeh and they were poor. Dust, surely you're not 4-1 wank? They're the sort of odds we'd (deservedly) get away from home.

    Nice to see the Mackems bleating today, say hi to David Meyler if any of you Sunderlona fans read this.

      1. Nah, like I said a poor Sunderland side down to 10 men is our level. We're so lax and I'll-disciplined in control of the ball it's unreal, you can clearly see why we concede so many. We're just making it hard for ourselves.

        The daft comments that are going Pulis' way are ridiculous since he's taken the Palace job are unreal. He did more with and for Stoke thn anybody had any right to. 23 years out of the top-flight, stopping up that first season with Championship players then getting to the FA Cupfinal and Europe.

        He's vilified yet a bell end like Holloway is lauded and everybody's darling because of his clown act, yet when it counts he can't do the business. It's telling that Pulis is the man to replace him. I still don't know if they'll stay up but I'll be surprised if they're not in with a shout until the last match of the season.

        The east midlands teams seem to be going well this season, still trusting in Billy?

        1. IAN
          i wish Forest could get any help up striker that scares anybody.long way to go not sure if they will get one of the playoff spots.i agree with everything you said about Pulis not sure CP will stay up but he will have them fighting till the end.

  4. Arrrgh! "Both sides have come to play."

    One of the lamest of comments, but constantly in use in many sports.

  5. the Spuds have lost the plot awful performance do not deserve to be called imagination in the final third.if they don't turn it around they will be lucky to fight for a Thursday night match in Europe.

    1. Yeah, and then Dzeko will act even more like a petulant biyatch than usual.

      Dzeko and Guidetti start up top for Plzen if I'm filling out the squad sheet, though.

      1. From what i gather, isnt Guidetti a very similar player to Dzeko and Negredo?

        Dont see the point of playing both, tactically speaking.

  6. Sorry Dust - can't imagine anyone in the world believes that this result accurately reflects upon the quality of Spurs.

    Now damnit Pellers, get the damnable away form sorted. (Having Ferny out for Stoke and Sunderland was big part of this, I think.)

    Kind of frustrating to have already lost 4 this year. Leaves zero margin of error and that is the thing to keep in mind beyond the odd lopsided scorelines one can put up.

    1. If I knew where to send it I'd e-mail him an mp3 I have of some fans singing the Arsene "paedo" song. I'd hope that would cheer him up, but then again he probably has 15 of those already.

      1. Fair enough. It was bad officiating in that case too. I just think a less well-known player would've been sent off.

    1. Yet another weekend of inconsistent refereeing. It's amazing how how every ref seems to have their own interpretation of the laws. Rooney should have been gone. End of.

  7. Great weekend with a terrific beginning in the Merseyside derby and ending in Cardiff. It doesn't get any better than this for excitement.

    Too bad that many will talk about Mireles (sp) and Rooney not getting deserved red cards. Let's hope the FA does something about the inconsistent and poor oficiating.

  8. I hope the season continues the way it has started. Only 8 points separates Arsenal in 1st and Spurs in 9th. It won't be until the end of December or mid-January that we will see the gap between 1st and 6th widen. For once we will be paying more attention to the top of the table than the relegation battle as there will be more teams involved for the title.

  9. Thank you for your

    To say that was brutal is an understatement...

    Kabul, Dawson, Jan, Lloris, Paulinho, holtby had their heads up their asses...

    Football illiterate fans got what they wanted, no inverted wingers, unfortunately, no inverted wingers means the middle is far more exposed and last time. I checked YaYa was pretty good at dominating games I the middle.

    We surrenders the middle of the park holtby was out of his league to say the least on his own in there as Lennon and Lamela stayed out wide. Holtby & Paulinho didn't communicate at all from the looks of it. Anyways, the great tactical squeeze we put on teams didn't happen.

    Switching to a 442 for 15 minutes was an attempt at changing it up, but 10-1 formation wouldn't matter if the players at the back we're playing like $hite...

    This will either sink us, or refocus the club and move us back in the right direction.

    Meanwhile I don't really want to hear from any players, again about "bouncing back"...just shush and perform.

    Away fans were great yesterday, as was Lamela and Ade's effort, Sandro was fine till he threw up but he was less effective after that.

    AVB is still the right man, last time I checked Farsenal had 8 put passed them not to long ago and man Utd had 6 put passed them at home by city...

    1. One would think that after Tottenham's performance yesterday that you would drop the (F)Arsenal for one day.

    2. Like I said earlier all the money spent and players aquired and still a second rate club with second rate supporters like yourself! The team has no cohesion or purpose on the pitch. Oh well you always have Europa...LOL!

      1. You are so _ns_ghtful, _ aspire to have your knowledge, _ hope your days are full of happ_ness and ra_nbows.

        _ dropped the _ from th_s post _n honor of you not using _t _n yours, _ presume _t's a way of you mask_ng your true nature ?

        1. Or not. The fact remains your club was destroyed and only validates the clueless tatics and lack of vision. You cant just spend without a plan.

          Enjoy mediocrity!

    3. Spurs just weren't at the races yesterday and City were in a big way. Dawson when paired with Vertonghen or Chiriches is quality and with Kaboul he is very mediocre.

  10. Dust
    so is your dog safe? tough one yesterday least your Niner's are winning.AVB needs to chew some a$$ not sure he has the DNA to do it.


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