Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread

All around the globe, people are waking up with a bigger smile on their faces today knowing that the Premier League is back in action after a two week break. Fans are so thankful that one World Soccer Talk reader, Mufc77, even said “I’m so looking forward to the league getting started again I might just get out of bed early for the Scouse Darby.” And that’s saying something.

For viewers in the United States, here’s today TV schedule:

Saturday, November 23:

Everton vs Liverpool, 7:45am, NBC Sports Network, mun 2
Arsenal vs Southampton, 10am, NBC Sports Network
Fulham vs Swansea, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
Hull vs Crystal Palace, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
Newcastle vs Norwich, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
Stoke vs Sunderland, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
West Ham vs Chelsea, 12:30pm, NBC, mun 2
Doctor Who 50th Anniversary episode (The Day of the Doctor), 2:50pm, BBC America
Match of the Day, 11pm, NBC Sports Network

Before, during or after today’s matches, join the conversation with fellow soccer fans in the comments section below.

Have a wonderful Saturday!

81 thoughts on “Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread”

    1. They could possibly be helpful to some new converts. Remember this is an american audience and some british accents take some time to get used to.

  1. Classy and touching video segment by NBCSN this morning poignantly sharing how Liverpool AND Everton fans are united for Justice For The 96

    1. You forgot to consider that Phil Dowd is incompetent.

      I dislike Suarez as much as anyone but that was a clear red card for Mirallas.

  2. I dont get people mocking Liverpool for not playing Sturridge, as if its a concession. Its a tactical tweak that obviously seems to be working.

  3. Evertn are incredibly lucky Mirallas wasn’t sent off. There were three things wrong with that tackle, referee saw it, and still chose a caution instead of sending him off.

    Great game so far but I could see Liverpool pulling away in the second half. They have threaded a number of long(ish) passes past multiple Everton players, eventually someone will finish one of those.

  4. foreshadowing of bad things for Howard in the pre match talking about the Derby he had a red USMNT jacket on.not the color a Everton player should wear when talking about the Derby

  5. What a howler by Allen. Xavi he is not.

    Everton need a Fellaini or Cahill alongside Lukaku. The Spanish kid looks a bit lightweight for this game.

  6. go ahead Jose keep telling yourself you made the right decision on sending RL out on a year long loan.Jose you kept the wrong striker.

  7. Liverpool fans wishing they got Martinez and not Rodgers about now. Honeymoon definitely over for Rodgers if they lose this one.

      1. Everton have spent about 30 million in the past 3 years. Liverpool in that same span have purchased Mignolet, Suarez. Henderson, coutinoh, sturidge, sakho, Enrique, Allen, borini, Carroll, downing, and probably more that’s just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Can someone give me a total cost?

        And still everton have been ahead of Liverpool the past 2 years and equal today.

    1. I think Dowd’s call on Mirallas was probably a bigger factor. Will go down as a top five blown call this season. Shocking!

      1. yknow whats funny? That it was a yellow card EVEN though Suarez leg clearly showed damage that was the result of a high, studs showing, tackle to the knee. It looked like some vampire took a liking to Suarez leg. So even though there was visual evidence, even though it took more than the 3 minutes of stoppage time to make a decision, its STILL a yellow card??? 😛 And as a reward to LFC for losing that battle they had the opportunity to watch Mirallas draw blood from Jordan Henderson’s head, leading with the elbow, with no card given. It was like watching NFL replacement refs. On a side note, if they dont do it already, Sunderland needs to start in-team scrimmages with ten men since thats all they seem to need lately. ;D

  8. Even with a lesser quality Martinez shows why he is the better manager than Rodgers. Rodgers put in Agger and Skrtyl who were roasted by Lukaku last season when he was at West Brom. Shows how poor a decision that was by Rodgers.

    Everton could have won this if they were a bit more composed when they had at least 3-4 breakaways. Under Martinez Everton are going to be a force to reckon with and he has only been with them a few months. Looks like Everton will finish above Liverpool again this season.

  9. It’s like Southampton have ceded the center of the park. Every posession they have gets played to the back then out to the flank to go forward. Not a bad general approach but they should prod the middle a little bit, especially without Flamini on the pitch.

  10. I wonder what the score could have been had Boruc not been an absolute buffoon.

    Since I am currently reading “The Fix,” I can’t help but think about that silly mistake as more than just a mistake.

    1. Problem is that is on GOL TV in the US, which is hard to get in a lot of places.

      I’d love to watch that match and comment on it if I could.

      1. I was able to watch it on a grainy internet stream. Anyways, I was referring more to the game being actually acknowledged here. It seems this is still very much just an EPL site.

        1. March, I was on the road today so we didn’t get a chance to create an open thread for the Bundesliga game. Missed opportunity on our part, sorry.

    2. GolTV is not that widely available. I have it on Time Warner Sports package but it is buried amongst the international channels.

      That being said, Dortmund look more dangerous at the moment but this match is a must for them.

    3. Public Service Announcement:

      BT1 has it on in the UK.

      Since this Chelsea/WHU is a limp sock, I think I am going to hunt down a Bayer-Dortmund stream!

  11. A ten man Sunderland is about our level. Taking Fletcher off and leaving Altidore and Borini up front left them toothless (I cannot believe how much that inept pairing have cost in transfer fees).

    Good following from the Mackems, I’d have been bloody annoyed if it had been a Stoke player who saw red for a challenge like Brown’s. I honestly thought he didn’t touch Adam.

    Ho hum, I suppose we’ll keep tipping and tapping off the back of this and rely on Begovic being our saviour. We’d be well and truly buggered without him.

  12. Wes Browns red card… What on earth kind of a decision was that? Miralles a Yellow? Ridiculous referreing…

    Howard Webb in charge for city spurs tomorrow.

    Pretty sure city will get a penalty.

    1. I know Webb loves United so that may work in your favor but you’re probably right as City will get a penalty and Vertoghen gets a red card.

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