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Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread

everton liverpool Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread

All around the globe, people are waking up with a bigger smile on their faces today knowing that the Premier League is back in action after a two week break. Fans are so thankful that one World Soccer Talk reader, Mufc77, even said “I’m so looking forward to the league getting started again I might just get out of bed early for the Scouse Darby.” And that’s saying something.

For viewers in the United States, here’s today TV schedule:

Saturday, November 23:

Everton vs Liverpool, 7:45am, NBC Sports Network, mun 2
Arsenal vs Southampton, 10am, NBC Sports Network
Fulham vs Swansea, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
Hull vs Crystal Palace, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
Newcastle vs Norwich, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
Stoke vs Sunderland, 10am, Premier League Extra Time
West Ham vs Chelsea, 12:30pm, NBC, mun 2
Doctor Who 50th Anniversary episode (The Day of the Doctor), 2:50pm, BBC America
Match of the Day, 11pm, NBC Sports Network

Before, during or after today’s matches, join the conversation with fellow soccer fans in the comments section below.

Have a wonderful Saturday!

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81 Responses to Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 12: Open Thread

  1. Smokey Bacon says:

    Toon army!

  2. Christopher Harris says:

    Rebecca Lowe is like Madonna. It’s a new hairstyle every week!

  3. Flyvanescence says:

    What yall reckon this formation from Pool is, 3-5-1-1?

  4. Christopher Harris says:

    Nice South Wales video by NBC, but did they really have to use subtitles for the English-speaking Cardiff fan?

  5. Christopher Harris says:

    Classy and touching video segment by NBCSN this morning poignantly sharing how Liverpool AND Everton fans are united for Justice For The 96

  6. De Selby says:

    What kind of freaking defense was that? And what was McCarthy doing playing in the middle of the goal?

  7. Christopher Harris says:

    What was James McCarthy thinking standing inside the goal like that? He was helping no one there.

  8. Smokey Bacon says:

    So much for the normal cagey but dull derby then. Nice open game.

  9. Christopher Harris says:

    So much so for those old 0-0 Merseyside derbies of the past! 1-1!

  10. De Selby says:

    Holy crap.


  11. Smokey Bacon says:

    The hungry Uruguayan strikes though Tim Howard was unsighted by his ridiculous beard.

  12. Guy says:

    Suarez is an idiot, but I wouldn’t mind him being my idiot.

  13. De Selby says:

    Come on, Barkley, don’t do that.

    Crap dive.

  14. Flyvanescence says:

    All goals on set pieces? This is exactly what these managers are looking for lol.

  15. Smokey Bacon says:

    Now that was a proper Merseyside derby challenge. Has to go for that.

    • De Selby says:

      You forgot to consider that Phil Dowd is incompetent.

      I dislike Suarez as much as anyone but that was a clear red card for Mirallas.

  16. Flyvanescence says:

    I dont get people mocking Liverpool for not playing Sturridge, as if its a concession. Its a tactical tweak that obviously seems to be working.

  17. Andre says:

    Evertn are incredibly lucky Mirallas wasn’t sent off. There were three things wrong with that tackle, referee saw it, and still chose a caution instead of sending him off.

    Great game so far but I could see Liverpool pulling away in the second half. They have threaded a number of long(ish) passes past multiple Everton players, eventually someone will finish one of those.

  18. Guy says:

    Unrelated, but a plus for sports fans….if you have a ROKU “Watch ESPN” is now available in the store.

  19. jtm371 says:

    foreshadowing of bad things for Howard in the pre match talking about the Derby he had a red USMNT jacket on.not the color a Everton player should wear when talking about the Derby

  20. Smokey Bacon says:

    What a howler by Allen. Xavi he is not.

    Everton need a Fellaini or Cahill alongside Lukaku. The Spanish kid looks a bit lightweight for this game.

  21. Peter Quinn says:

    Such a fun match to watch. Wow!

  22. jtm371 says:

    go ahead Jose keep telling yourself you made the right decision on sending RL out on a year long loan.Jose you kept the wrong striker.

  23. Flyvanescence says:

    Mignolet finally cracked

  24. Flyvanescence says:

    On the subject of Chelsea strikers, Torres or Eto’o makes that pass Lukaku just missed.

  25. Smokey Bacon says:

    Liverpool fans wishing they got Martinez and not Rodgers about now. Honeymoon definitely over for Rodgers if they lose this one.

    • Flyvanescence says:

      Pool are second place coming in to the week . . .

      • Pres says:

        Everton have spent about 30 million in the past 3 years. Liverpool in that same span have purchased Mignolet, Suarez. Henderson, coutinoh, sturidge, sakho, Enrique, Allen, borini, Carroll, downing, and probably more that’s just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Can someone give me a total cost?

        And still everton have been ahead of Liverpool the past 2 years and equal today.

  26. jtm371 says:

    joe allen’s miss just got a lot bigger

    • A Miller says:

      I think Dowd’s call on Mirallas was probably a bigger factor. Will go down as a top five blown call this season. Shocking!

      • goisles01 says:

        yknow whats funny? That it was a yellow card EVEN though Suarez leg clearly showed damage that was the result of a high, studs showing, tackle to the knee. It looked like some vampire took a liking to Suarez leg. So even though there was visual evidence, even though it took more than the 3 minutes of stoppage time to make a decision, its STILL a yellow card??? :P And as a reward to LFC for losing that battle they had the opportunity to watch Mirallas draw blood from Jordan Henderson’s head, leading with the elbow, with no card given. It was like watching NFL replacement refs. On a side note, if they dont do it already, Sunderland needs to start in-team scrimmages with ten men since thats all they seem to need lately. ;D

  27. Peter Quinn says:

    Match of the year!…unreal.

  28. Flyvanescence says:

    “Theres too many boring ties in soccer” . . .

  29. jtm371 says:

    GO SAINTS beat Arsenal!

  30. TRC says:

    Newcastle v. Norwich on NBC Sports Network instead of Arsenal v. Southhampton?

  31. Guy says:

    Well, my idiot just set up a nice goal by Adam. Way to go, N’Zonzi. Now, for Stoke holding a lead……..

  32. Smokey Bacon says:

    Outrageous effort by Ramsey. He’s a different player this season. It’s like Ramsey and Wilshire have swapped bodies.

  33. Guy says:

    I want Stoke to win and all, but how was that a red on Brown??

  34. De Selby says:

    Boruc!!! You freaking fool!

  35. Smokey Bacon says:

    Souhampton’s keeper will get a kick in the Borucs at half time from Pochettino.

  36. James says:

    Even with a lesser quality Martinez shows why he is the better manager than Rodgers. Rodgers put in Agger and Skrtyl who were roasted by Lukaku last season when he was at West Brom. Shows how poor a decision that was by Rodgers.

    Everton could have won this if they were a bit more composed when they had at least 3-4 breakaways. Under Martinez Everton are going to be a force to reckon with and he has only been with them a few months. Looks like Everton will finish above Liverpool again this season.

  37. Andre says:

    It’s like Southampton have ceded the center of the park. Every posession they have gets played to the back then out to the flank to go forward. Not a bad general approach but they should prod the middle a little bit, especially without Flamini on the pitch.

  38. James says:

    Anyone else having problems with NBC Sports Live Extra? Black screens on all games.

  39. Guy says:

    Stoke playing like they are the ones with 10 men. Not good.

  40. Guy says:

    Pretty by Crouch and Z’Nonzi.

  41. Guy says:

    Wow. Cameron getting the love from the commentator.

  42. Todd Shenk says:

    I wonder what the score could have been had Boruc not been an absolute buffoon.

    Since I am currently reading “The Fix,” I can’t help but think about that silly mistake as more than just a mistake.

  43. March says:

    No Bayern Munich vs. Dortmund talk on this site today? I am disappoint.

    • Marc L says:

      Problem is that is on GOL TV in the US, which is hard to get in a lot of places.

      I’d love to watch that match and comment on it if I could.

      • March says:

        I was able to watch it on a grainy internet stream. Anyways, I was referring more to the game being actually acknowledged here. It seems this is still very much just an EPL site.

        • Christopher Harris says:

          March, I was on the road today so we didn’t get a chance to create an open thread for the Bundesliga game. Missed opportunity on our part, sorry.

    • Len F says:

      GolTV is not that widely available. I have it on Time Warner Sports package but it is buried amongst the international channels.

      That being said, Dortmund look more dangerous at the moment but this match is a must for them.

    • Marc L says:

      Public Service Announcement:

      BT1 has it on in the UK.

      Since this Chelsea/WHU is a limp sock, I think I am going to hunt down a Bayer-Dortmund stream!

    • Len F says:

      Pretty good first half. I would say Dortmund had the better play for the first 30 and Munich looked stronger in the last 15.

    • KapUSMC says:

      Still 0-0… BVB have been controlling the game, but haven’t really had many good chances.

  44. IanCransonsKnees says:

    A ten man Sunderland is about our level. Taking Fletcher off and leaving Altidore and Borini up front left them toothless (I cannot believe how much that inept pairing have cost in transfer fees).

    Good following from the Mackems, I’d have been bloody annoyed if it had been a Stoke player who saw red for a challenge like Brown’s. I honestly thought he didn’t touch Adam.

    Ho hum, I suppose we’ll keep tipping and tapping off the back of this and rely on Begovic being our saviour. We’d be well and truly buggered without him.

  45. Christopher Harris says:

    Loved the new camera angles they used in the NBC Sports studio today. Brilliant stuff!

  46. Dust says:

    Wes Browns red card… What on earth kind of a decision was that? Miralles a Yellow? Ridiculous referreing…

    Howard Webb in charge for city spurs tomorrow.

    Pretty sure city will get a penalty.

    • Sacto Blues says:

      I know Webb loves United so that may work in your favor but you’re probably right as City will get a penalty and Vertoghen gets a red card.

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