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Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 6: Open Thread

number 6 Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 6: Open Thread

The Premier League returns today with hopefully several twists and turns in the Premier League season.

In the Swansea-Arsenal match, here are the starting line-ups:

Swansea: Vorm (capt), Tiendalli, Amat, Flores, Davies, Canas, Shelvey, de Guzman, Dyer, Routledge, Michu.

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Gibbs, Wilshere, Ramsey, Flamini, Ozil, Gnabry, Giroud

Here were the starting line-ups in the previous games today:

Manchester United: De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Evans, Buttner; Nani, Carrick, Anderson, Kagawa ; Rooney, Chicharito

Subs: Amos, Evra, Welbeck, van Persie, Valencia, Fellaini, Januzaj.

West Brom: Myhill, Jones, McAuley, Olsson (c), Ridgewell, Yacob, Mulumbu, Amalfitano, Sessegnon, Sinclair, Anichebe


Aston Villa: Guzan, Bacuna, Vlaar, Baker, Clark, El Ahmadi, Weimann, Luna, Delph, Sylla, Kozak

Manchester City: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany (C), Nastasic, Kolarov, Nasri, Fernandinho, Toure, Milner, Negredo, Dzeko


Fulham: Stockdale; Riether, Hangeland, Amorebieta, Richardson; Kacaniklic, Sidwell, Parker, Kasami; Berbatov, Bent

Cardiff: Marshall, Theophile-Catherine, Caulker, Turner, Taylor; Gunnarsson, Kim, Medel, Whittingham; Odemwingie, Campbell


Hull City: McGregor, Rosenior, Figueroa, Davies, Faye, Huddlestone, Livermore, Elmohamady, Brady, Aluko, Graham

West Ham United: Jaaskelainen, Reid, Nolan, Tomkins, Jarvis, Rat, Maiga, Morrison, Noble, O’Brien, Diame


Southampton: Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Wanyama, Steven Davis, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Osvaldo, Lambert

Crystal Palace: Speroni, Ward, Mariappa, Gabbidon, Moxey, Dikgacoi, Jedinak, Bannan, Kebe, Gayle, Chamakh.


Before, during or after today’s matches, join the conversation in the comments section below.

Have a wonderful Saturday!

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74 Responses to Premier League Saturday, Gameweek 6: Open Thread

  1. Christopher Harris says:

    Woof! In the pre-match interview today, Mourinho’s body language and words seem very defensive and uncomfortable when answering the question about “Portuguese rivals.”

    He says he doesn’t care what AVB says, but he obviously feels threatened by him.

    • Pete Q says:

      We might be reading too much into body language, but Mourinho also barely stood up to shake Villy the Kid’s hand during the prematch handshake. He also made brief eye contact. The other Chelsea coaches and trainers were more engaging.

  2. Christopher Harris says:

    Awesome aerial shots of White Hart Lane, hearing ‘When The Saints Go Marching In,’ and seeing lines of people still queueing up to get into the stadium. Nice work NBC once again!

    • Pete Q says:

      Definitely. Week in and week out, NBC’s best decision has been to show the players walking out while hearing the crowd noise. Sets the mood and gives everyone a taste of the atmosphere.

  3. Christopher Harris says:

    Interesting to see Brad Friedel drinking a Red Bull behind AVB. Late night, Brad? ;)

  4. Pete Q says:

    I think I saw the first chink in NBC’s armor this morning.

    Who picked Rebecca Lowe’s top? It looks like something out of My Fair Lady.

    • Christopher Harris says:

      Maybe she wanted to be more regal after last night’s New York Times story? ;)

      I agree. The top looks quite Victorian.

  5. jtm371 says:

    jose shake hands like a man stand up and look the person in the eyes.he barely got out of his seat.
    hard to believe jose is hooking his train to la nina as his striker not sure that is going to work.

    Derby update FOREST 1 derby 0

  6. Christopher Harris says:

    Tottenham are completely in control in this first half, opening Chelsea up and creating the better chances. It could be 2-0 or 3-0 by now.

    Torres is getting no service. And Chelsea’s tactic of hitting long balls up top is not working.

  7. Christopher Harris says:

    Excellent analysis by NBC to include the clip of Sigurdsson’s goal against Norwich, to compare it against this one against Chelsea.

  8. Pete Q says:

    Any chance Villas-Boas has found a way to use “mind games” on Mourinho? Could he have thought about revealing all his prematch comments about his relationship with Mournihio just to get under Mourinho’s skin?

    It’s pretty apparent that Mourinho is pre-occupied.

  9. Christopher Harris says:


    It’s almost as if Mourinho is putting him on so he doesn’t get criticized if Chelsea lose today by people saying he should have played Mata.

    Either way, it’s a good decision. Chelsea will create more with him in place.

  10. Flyvanescence says:

    I like that torres is starting up front. But ramires over any of their skilled attacking midfielders? (Ahem)mata(Ahem)

    Not getting it done at the moment.

  11. jtm371 says:

    AFL Grand Final last night in Melbourne Australia.

    Hawthorn 11 11 77
    Fremantle 8 14 62

    it is a big deal if your down under like i was last year for it.

  12. LaticsFan says:

    Wow, what a dive by Vertongen

  13. De Selby says:

    Torres should have been sent off for scratching Vertonghen. That was nasty.

    Of course Mourinho will be upset that Torres didn’t go for the eyes.

    • CTBlues says:

      Vertonghen should have seen yellow for diving.

      • dust says:

        LOL, whatever…cant take anything Jose pokeinho seriously.

        1st half you were fortunate to still be in it, Torres lead with his arm raised above his shoulder late to a header, he’s lucky he was even on the pitch at that point to act that way.

        Mata changed it for you, but you still didn’t dominate at any point, it was better but no real threats, we were poor converting chances.

        Jose came for the draw, and thats what he got, im disappointed to not take 3 points. it was 10 men v 10 men when Defoe came on anyway.

        2nd and looking forward to Hull!

        Super Jan Vertonghen!

  14. jtm371 says:

    Mata not starting is making jose look stupid or stubborn.Mata has made all the difference in 2nd half.

    FOREST wins the local derby 1 will be a great Saturday!

  15. Pete Q says:

    Wow. I thought they were both going for the ball. Maybe Torres led with his elbow?

  16. Pete Q says:

    I know this is a Tottenham-Chelsea thread, but United starters vs WBA:

    De Gea, Jones, Ferdinand, Evans, Buttner; Nani, Carrick, Anderson, Kagawa ; Rooney, Chicharito

    Subs: Amos, Evra, Welbeck, van Persie, Valencia, Fellaini, Januzaj.

    Moyes definitely with an eye on Shakhtar Donetsk on Weds.

  17. jtm371 says:

    i am the last person to stick up for la nina but not sure that was yellow.

    • Pete Q says:

      Yea. Even if he did lead with an elbow (which I didn’t see), there was no contact.

      Tough decision to give. Ref’s can make mistakes too.

  18. Sacto Blues says:

    A good result considering Chelsea was down a man for 10-12 minutes and Dust thought this was going to be easy 3 points for Spurs. No need to go on about Mike Dean other than Vertonghen shouldn’t been on the pitch but thats football. Spurs were impressive in ball pressing and recovery. Ericksen was their best player. Juan Mata for me was the MOTM.

    • Georgie says:

      Despite spending 100M+ Spurs got thoroughly outplayed in the second half. In the end Spurs needed referee assistance to escape with the point.

    • dust says:

      Demebele was the best player on the pitch by a country mile,you had nothing.

      Torres should not have been on the pitch for the last 25 minutes after raking his nails across Jan’s face.

      you should’ve been done 3-0 in the first half, the post and poor finishing kept you in it at halftime.

      your boy jose came for the draw and got it, as for dean, constant yellow card offenses were waved “play on” and then not given after the sequense was over.

      watch the game again and see how many cards you got off of getting just from that.

      including Ivanovic’s shove on Dembele for he goal another example.

      you should be happy with that result, Im not, but ill take it and move on. CFC’s 250m starting 11 were made to look average in that first half, that also made me smile.


      • Sacto Blues says:

        Actually Chelsea should have won if Torres and Schurrle who was in on LLoris had finished but fair play to Lloris. Vertonghen with his dive and his scissor chop on Ramires who would have been on Goal should have been sent off. Why didn’t Lamela get in ?

        • gbewing says:

          hey your worried about us- thanks- Spurs dominated 1rst half-failed to get necessary 2nd goal, Mata was the difference in 2nd half-your coach is insane -that could hurt down the road, Mike Dean was Mike Dean inconsistency on both sides, Torres nails to face was a red card as well as in accordance to his 9 year old girl image, Vertongen could have had a red -not 100%call but a maybe and getting Vertongen out of his game was a nice plus- either side should be happy with the draw-
          Dust has a hard on for Dembele ( I kinda do to but he tends to exaggerate see Naughton comments from last year)
          Our team still is searching for the right mix (Lamela and others) so I like us going forward but for your talented Blues you must worry about the insanity of your gaffer-who’s personal petty vendettas could hurt long term

          cheers enjoy your football

  19. Christopher Harris says:


    Steven Caulker scores a great header for Cardiff from free kick. Fulham should be able to bounce back if they played anything like they did against Everton.

    After scoring, Cardiff fans singing “1-0 to the sheepshaggers.”

  20. Gary says:

    Fulham losing at home to Cardiff. Martin Jol’s job could be in jeapardy if they don’t turn it around.

    • Christopher Harris says:

      Jol makes a substitution in the 43rd minute bringing on Ruiz for Kacaniklic. And he wasn’t injured.

      And it’s instantly rewarded by a beautiful goal by the Costa Rican striker.

  21. Christopher Harris says:

    Brilliant games so far between Aston Villa and Manchester City, and Manchester United vs WBA!

  22. NotTheNoob says:

    Is anyone else having buffering issues with the NBC Sports stream of Manchester United v West Brom?

  23. Flyvanescence says:

    3 straight thrashings by city when we go 4-3-3.

    So lets trot out a 4-4-2 on a tricky away game before bayern midweek.

    Pellegrini is baffling at times.

  24. Gary says:

    Wow! both Manchester teams lose. This could be Arsenal’s year.

    Terrific win for Cardiff and Mutch scores one of the goals of the weekend.

  25. Flyvanescence says:

    How ironic is it that Southampton is currently in 4th after that seemingly absurd statement about getting into the champions league this week?

  26. CTBlues says:

    Great job today for West Brom and Villa. Now come on Swans!

  27. Al Jean says:

    Who say BPL is not the best league? you wont see so much drama everywhere in the league in any other league in world. Bundes???

  28. Christopher Harris says:

    Rrrr! The audio and video aren’t synced up again on the NBC broadcast.

    You hear the crowd reaction a split second before you saw what happens, which diminishes the excitement because you know the ball is going in or out before you see it happening.

  29. IanCransonsKnees says:

    Heard a very good point on 5live this afternoon. Jimmy Armfield was talking about the Old Trafford crowd midway through the first half.

    He explained that he thinks they don’t know what to do without Ferguson. Ferguson was a force of nature who could affect the players and the game simply by stepping from the dugout into the technical area. The fans have never had to back or encourage the team in the same vociferous manner as other clubs because under Ferguson 3 points from, WBA, Swansea, Stoke, Southampton etc was expected and easy. Now they’re struggling, despite their being 70,000 of them, they don’t have the impact or influence they should.

    In other news I imagine jtm is buzzing tonight with the Derby derby win.

    • jtm371 says:

      you have that right it has been a great day send the sheepshaggers back to their pens.hope Forest can string a few wins together.CFYR!

  30. hoosiergunner says:

    Enjoying the Arsenal and Swansea game immensely today (so far)… two of my favorite teams to watch… open, attractive play at its best.

  31. Flyvanescence says:

    Arsenal dont have the best squad in the league. But theyr the ONLY of the contending sides to have gotten their tactics right so far this season. Wenger has been brilliant, while Pellegrini, Moyes and Mourinho have struggled to get it right.

    (Tottenham maybe, but took a couple games to blood in the new players.)

  32. Christopher Harris says:

    Will Swansea EVER get awarded a penalty kick in the Premier League? They’ve had zero penalty kicks awarded to them last season and this season so far.

    • Al Jean says:

      That wasnt penalty, if that penalty Arsenal also should have one in first half.

      • Christopher Harris says:

        I didn’t say that Arsenal didn’t deserve a penalty in the first half. I just said that it’s ridiculous that Swansea haven’t been awarded one single penalty in 12 months of Premier League football. It would have been harsh against Flamini, but he did handle it. But my comment is more about the 12 months of Premier League action where we should have been awarded a few penalties but refs, for whatever reason, aren’t giving them.

  33. IanCransonsKnees says:

    Is this 9 home domestic league and cup games without a win? It always worries me when our home form turns poor as, as smaller clubs you rely on it as your bread and butter points.

  34. IanCransonsKnees says:

    Nigel Clough sacked by Derby. Madness.

  35. dust says:

    A shame swansea were missing some key players, bony on the bench….WTF is that.

    • Christopher Harris says:

      Laudrup started off more conservatively. IMHO, he should have started Bony. That was his first mistake.

      Ashley Williams and Angel Rangel were out injured.

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