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Manchester United vs Chelsea, Premier League Gameweek 36: Open Thread

ferguson benitez Manchester United vs Chelsea, Premier League Gameweek 36: Open Thread

Fergie against Rafa. North versus South. Glazers against Abramovich. Gus Johnson and Ian Wright against the soccer world.

There are plenty of rivalries on the line today as Manchester United take on Chelsea at Old Trafford in a match that means much more for Chelsea than it does for United, but don’t let that take anything away from United who will be ecstatic to win today as revenge for losing to the Blues in the FA Cup.

For viewers in the United States, the match kicks off at 11am ET on FOX Soccer with commentators Gus Johnson and Ian Wright behind the mics. You may remember that this duo also did the FA Cup match between both sides in March. Let’s hope they’ve both improved significantly since then (and since Wednesday’s aberration).

Join the conversation with football supporters around the world before, during or after the match in the comments section below.

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151 Responses to Manchester United vs Chelsea, Premier League Gameweek 36: Open Thread

  1. Smokey Bacon says:

    Love to see United condemn Chelsea to the Europa league next season. It would certainly put a spanner in the works for the messiah’s return.

  2. De Selby says:

    oh no!! just realized who’s announcing this match. dammit.

  3. jtm371 says:

    F-ck gus off to talksport!

  4. Frill Artist says:

    For those who don’t want to listen to gus, try cricfree(dot)tv or stream2watch(dot)me

  5. Smokey Bacon says:

    The Anderson fairwell tour continues. It’s United Reserves v Chelsea.

  6. Pete says:

    Although I won’t be watching the Fox Soccer feed, I will be refreshing this page constantly. I expect full “Gus Gaffes” updates AS THEY HAPPEN!

    (and some discussing of the actual match)

    • De Selby says:

      he just said ashley cole was overlapping when he was doing no such thing.

      man he is so terrible.

      • Pete says:

        Haha…I’m still scratching my head from the “Stroke foot!” call from the Bayern-Barca match the other day.

  7. Mufc77 says:

    God damn you Gus Johnson.

  8. Mufc77 says:

    What language is Ian right speaking?

  9. Dust says:

    What the F is this? Gus Johnson’s back? I thought it was a joke of something….

    And Ian wright….

    FFS

    • Mufc77 says:

      I can just about understand him so I can only imagine what he sounds like to someone not from the UK

  10. Mufc77 says:

    “Ba with the header up hi” what does that even mean?

  11. Smokey Bacon says:

    Is it MATTER or MAAHDA? FFS!

  12. De Selby says:

    BAAAAAAAAAAAAA. DEMBA BAAAAAAAAAAA.

    OHHHHHHHH MAN. it’s so terrible that i can’t stop listening.

  13. Mufc77 says:

    Demba baaaaa this guy is a idiot

  14. NotTheNoob says:

    Baaaaahhhh!!!!

  15. Smokey Bacon says:

    It’s not fair. Chelsea have more than 11 players on the pitch. There are at least Juan Mata’s.

  16. Wongo1 says:

    Wright is a numpty and Johnson is totally useless.

  17. NotTheNoob says:

    “early season acquisition”

    Gus obviously has yet to learn about the transfer windows.

  18. jtm371 says:

    Valencia has had 15 minutes to forget awful.

  19. De Selby says:

    just absolutely butchered the call on that fantastic save by lindergaard. he screams at the wrong times then when there is something to shout about he goes silent.

    mother of god.

  20. Pete says:

    Very disappointed in the Old Trafford crowd. 15 minutes in and no “Fat Spanish Waiter chant.

  21. Mufc77 says:

    Someone call FSC and see if they can make a bigger graphic to put on the screen during the match, I couldn’t quite make out the one that took up half the TV screen.

  22. Wongo1 says:

    Dean these two are beyond poor.

  23. Denverexpat says:

    Hardly a second of silence – if Wright isnt saying what they should have done, Johnson is shouting players names – this is appalling..ian wright is awful

    • Wongo1 says:

      Fill every second of time don’t you know.

      • Denverexpat says:

        Wright talks for far too long – describes plays that are past..and irrelevant. Apparently Mata has a good”ball” om him – Wright must be lurking in the changing rooms

  24. Smokey Bacon says:

    End line. I absolutely f*cking hate that!

  25. Wongo1 says:

    Why Wright on about Evans,FFS man give it up. You sound like an idiot.

  26. trickybrkn says:

    #2 is NOT Frank lampard… he wears #8

    ARRRGH Gus Johnsonism

  27. NotTheNoob says:

    Ozz Car, Maude-uh, Lamp hard

  28. Mufc77 says:

    What the hell is with the advertising during the game at the top and bottom of the screen. I thought I saw a Budweiser logo earlier. Can they not at least wait for a injury and play to stop.

    • Pete says:

      They have to make their advertising money now while people are still watching. Come this time next year they’ll be showing infomercials on Sunday mornings.

      • Mufc77 says:

        Would surprise me if they show Infomercials during the champions league next season.

        Man utd v Real Madrid sponsored by the Shamwow and the slap chop.

        • Pete says:

          I’m waiting for someone to report: “Gus just said ‘That In the Area was brought to you by WorldSoccerShop.com’”

  29. trickybrkn says:

    “that’s swivvle hips man”

  30. Wongo1 says:

    When will someone explain to him that the touch lines are on the goal and the other 2 are sidelines. FFS!!

  31. paddy h. says:

    gus johnson makes jp dellacamera look good. no, no, not really.

  32. Mufc77 says:

    Someone should tell wright giggs is 39 NOT 41. That’s twice he said it now

  33. Wongo1 says:

    These idiots claim that Aspelewhatever defended well. Damn Giggs lost the ball, call the thing correctly FFS. I

    • De Selby says:

      i’ve noticed that gus johnson has difficulty accurately describing the actions that take place in the course of a soccer match.

      • Wongo1 says:

        The game is too fast and too intricate for him, plus wait for it………he knows F-ALL about the sport.

  34. trickybrkn says:

    IN THE AREA!!!!

  35. Pete says:

    29th Minute…Fat Spanish Waiter…Yes!

  36. Guy says:

    Enter the Gus Free Zone. Audio from talkSPORT.com. It is behind the Fox feed, so just pause your TV video feed long enough to sync with talkSPORT and Bob’s your uncle.

    No Gus for me today. The rest of you have fun! :-)

  37. Wongo1 says:

    Valencia over ran the football? WTF is he talking about? A totally over hit pass and he says Valencia over ran the ball. F YOU FOX!!

  38. Mufc77 says:

    Gus Johnson busting Ian weights balls over his commentary, nothing can top that.

  39. Smokey Bacon says:

    I hope they are not letting the inmates down at Guantanamo watch this game as the commentary could be considered a form of torture.

  40. Wongo1 says:

    F**k me am you have replay and you still cannot see that Giggs was NOT offside. Geez why bother having such useless commentary.

  41. Wongo1 says:

    Sorry for the swear word Gaffer. The frustration got the better of me.

  42. Mufc77 says:

    I’d love to see someone send a copy of this game to fox pointing out all the mistakes

  43. Huw Roma says:

    HE GOT IT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  44. Denverexpat says:

    Robbie Savage tweets > Ian wright..how sad is that!

  45. Wongo1 says:

    Ian Wright just said Valencia did not look, when clearly Valencia looks up and then crosses. So very poor that they can’t even call what is happening directly in front of them.

    • De Selby says:

      ian wright has no excuse. at least gus has one, which is that he does not understand the sport he is announcing.

  46. De Selby says:

    i’m pretty sure gus blew out the speaker on my tv with that “os-kahr, GOT IT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  47. Smokey Bacon says:

    Fox need to start warming up the subs at half time. Get these two muppets off, bring on Tyler and Neville. Do something.

  48. Johnny says:

    I really wish Gus and Ian would STFU. So awful. That last scream was too much for me. And that Valencia call……good grief, I don’t think this guy has watched football before getting the gig with FSC.

    • Smokey Bacon says:

      I think that last scream nearly blew up my speakers. I’ll be sending the repair bill to Fox on Monday.

  49. Mufc77 says:

    It’s probably just as well Gus Johnson isn’t active on twitter anymore

  50. Huw Roma says:

    I can’t take much more of the ads they constantly run. How many times a day do they show the bullying one? That damn Gatorade one as well. It’s almost as bad as Gus. This is insanity.

    • paddy h. says:

      i would gladly contribute monthly to any anti-bullying camapaign while greedily consuming case upon case of gatorade if it kept gus johnson (and ian wright) off the air.

  51. jtm371 says:

    talksport and these posts are great fox is determined to piss off every last EPL viewer.only three more weeks then we can rage at arlo.

  52. Smokey Bacon says:

    The role of match announcers is to enhance the viewing experience. I feel like I have missed the entire first half. I have no clue what is going on as far as the game. I’m completely distracted by the violent assault on my ears.

    • Pete says:

      Smoke, just find an online feed with the SkySports 1 call (Tyler/Neville). I watched soccer online for so long, I can deal with missing one match on TV.

      Or turn down the sound and link up the Talk Sport feed.

      If you want to hear about Gus, just keep refreshing this thread. Then you don’t actually have to deal with Fox’s stupidity.

      I’m having a blast listening to Tyler/Neville and reading all the madness on here.

  53. Mufc77 says:

    Bring back Keith Costigan and Brian McBride

  54. Wongo1 says:

    Jtm371 can Arlobe as bad as Gus? Nah!!

  55. Mufc77 says:

    I’d honestly rather listen to that EPL fanzone show where they have two fans Do the commentary.

  56. trickybrkn says:

    Manchester United in red…

  57. trickybrkn says:

    Remember when FS ran the German commentary during the World Cup… That was better then this… and I actually had a better understanding of the match, and yeah I don’t speak German.

  58. trickybrkn says:

    The problem is when you get there early… the food tray isn’t out yet.

  59. TennesseeBlues says:

    I’m not sure how many titles Manchester United has won, perhaps they could find time to mention it?

    • Pete says:

      That’s a HUGE part of drawing in non-football fans. You beat a statistic or fact over the viewers’ heads. It’s part of Gus Growing Soccer in the States.

      • TennesseeBlues says:

        Oh, living in Tennessee that should be sumfing I already knew about but I guess I knew nuffing about that.

  60. Huw Roma says:

    “Looking for MADA ….”

  61. Guy says:

    I’m actually enjoying all this. Gus turns EPL Talk into Comedy Central. Hope there’s no kind of copyright infringement there, Gaffer. :-)

  62. Smokey Bacon says:

    It will be No Goals on Sunday after the game if this keeps up.

  63. Smokey Bacon says:

    Gus makes Chelsea’s right back sound like a tapas dish.

  64. Mufc77 says:

    Can you imagine how bad Gus Johnson is going to butcher the names of German players in the champions league final.

  65. TennesseeBlues says:

    Dear Gus:

    The question – “what do you mean by ‘should try to be on Johnny Evans?’” is something you should ask privately as part of your show prep.

    • kingtut says:

      So true – was flabbergasted he actually asked that live. Like others finally seeing the comedy value he offers.

  66. TennesseeBlues says:

    Dear Gus:

    “What does width mean?” would be another example of one of those show prep questions.

  67. Pete says:

    Moses out, Torres in…a little pee just rolled down Vidic’s leg.

  68. Huw Roma says:

    Who cares if it was a deflection Wright? It’s a goal either way.

  69. Smokey Bacon says:

    Which one of the 3 Mata’s just scored?

  70. jtm371 says:

    i hate luiz he is a A-1 POS caught on camera laughing.

  71. Smokey Bacon says:

    Rafael’s challenge on Luiz is what I feel like doing to Gus and his cockney sidekick.

  72. Mufc77 says:

    Hernandez should feel insulted at going on in the 89th min

  73. paddy h. says:

    good lord united have been muck since the real game.

  74. TennesseeBlues says:

    Gus ruins the experience but I fink I’ll still be able to enjoy these 3 points.

  75. Mufc77 says:

    Why is Mata walking off at Stamford bridge when the games at old trafford.

  76. Smokey Bacon says:

    MAAHDA murdas Maahnchester.

  77. Guy says:

    Chelsea fans may still not like Rafa, but I’d gladly buy his ticket to Stoke.

  78. Mufc77 says:

    Oh well still champions. Hopefully spurs do the business against Chelsea.

  79. Frank says:

    You have to hand it to Rafa Benitez as Chelsea are getting the results they need despite playing twice a week for ever. His rotation policy is working and today Chelsea played with more energy than United. One of the worse United performances at home in a long time. The last time United were this bad Rafa’s Liverpool scored 4 at Old Trafford.

    Huge game on Wednesday between Chelsea and Spurs. Please Fox, no Gus for that one.

  80. Pete says:

    I’m a United fan, but add another win over SAF to Rafa’s CV (FA Cup and today).

  81. SeminoleGunner says:

    The one time I pull for United and they are the ones giving up the late winner and melting down. Meanwhile van Persie is quiet as a mouse all game.

    Just gotta laugh.

  82. Pete says:

    I’d turn over to Fox Soccer for Goals on Sunday but Blue Crush is on E!

  83. Rob says:

    I turned off the TV, I just can’t handle those two morons, I watched the game on tape delay ( I have a 2 year old running around) before anyone replies about Talksport.
    We really need to tell Fox to take them off the Champions league and FA cup final commentary.

  84. Searching Twitter…

    …about 90% of tweets on “Mr. Rise and Fire” have been negative…

    …the experiment pushes on with the FA Cup Final next Saturday…

  85. Survival Sunday is shaping up to be a big YAWN:

    - 2 relegation places (QPR, Reading) have already been decided.

    - the league title has already been decided

    - The 8 clubs earning European places have also been decided, with placement being the only outstanding issue.

    Champions League – Man Utd; Man City; 2 of Chelsea, Arsenal, or Tottenham

    Europa League – one of Chelsea, Arsenal, or Tottenham; Everton (3rd qualifying round), Swansea (3rd qualifying round)

    Europa League 1st qualifying round via fair play table – Liverpool

    • IUGonzo says:

      I believe that Wigan will have a Europa League place whether they win or lose the FA Cup Final as Manchester City will qualify for the Champions League. So, the three Europa League places should go to Swansea City (League Cup), Wigan Athletic (FA Cup) and whoever finishes 5th in the Premier League if I understand European qualification correctly.

    • Sammy says:

      Is the Liverpool one confirmed yet?

      • jennifer says:

        Not yet,but a decision due soon. England were in fourth place when the interim rankings were unveiled in January, and need to move to third for his to happen, so if England have ousted Norway, Sweden or Finland, the highest-placed team in FP table who has not qualified for Europe – presently Liverpool – will be ushered in. It is not a done deal.

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