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Newcastle vs Sunderland & Stoke vs Manchester United: Open Thread

newcastle sunderland Newcastle vs Sunderland & Stoke vs Manchester United: Open Thread

Two Premier League matches are in store today before the FA Cup semi-final later today between Chelsea and Manchester City.

Early risers will be able to catch the Tyne-Wear derby between Newcastle United and Sunderland, which kicks off (hopefully on the pitch, that is, not in the stands) at 7am ET on ESPN Deportes and WatchESPN.

Paolo Di Canio takes charge of his second Sunderland match as manager. He’s looking for his first win in the toughest of matches against Sunderland’s fiercest rivals. However, Newcastle United players may be a bit tired after Thursday night’s aggregate loss to Benfica. Plus, Sunderland are staring down at relegation, so a point or anything more are vital.

That match is followed by Stoke City against Manchester United at 9am ET on FOX Soccer. Stoke City is another team in desperation. They’re only three points above relegation, and a loss is on the cards against a United side storming to a Premier League title. This one will be a huge test for the Potters and — most importantly — for manager Tony Pulis who is under immense pressure to keep his side up.

Join the conversations in the comments section below before, during or after the match.

Have a wonderful Sunday!

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24 Responses to Newcastle vs Sunderland & Stoke vs Manchester United: Open Thread

  1. IanCransonsKnees says:

    Windy as hell here in Stoke today which means Palacios will not play. A 0-3 score line would be a good result for us today, even a proper drubbing wouldn’t see Pulis sacked.

    Rumours about RDM as a a replacement which I’d find more than acceptable. Bar a solitary season Pulis has been in charge at Stoke for the best part of a decade, it’s time for a change whether we stay up or not.

    The players showed little effort or commitment against Villa and appeared to be playing to get Pulis sacked. There is unrest behind the scenes, Adam has been told to find another club and it’s alleged he’s tried to turn other players against Pulis. Nzonzi is alleged to have had another player around the throat in he dressing room and stories about various arguments abound. None of this is conducive to battling relegation.

    Our only hope is that teams like QPR and Southampton already know their fate by the time we play them, and come onto the pitch in their flip flops.

    • Fred says:

      I agree that maybe it’s time for Pulis leave regardless of how Stoke end up. What does the board think of him? That is the real question.

      • IanCransonsKnees says:

        The Chairman is his main supporter. The people with the money, his kids, want him out. Even the Chairman’s wife would have sacked him ages ago.

  2. Fred says:

    Good game so far at the Tyneside derby. Sunderland are actually having the better opportunities in the first 25 minutes. As a I write that Sunderland score from a terrific goal by Sassegnon. Game on. Newcstle could be suffering from playing on Thursday in the Europa league.

    This game could liven up even more now that Newcastle are chasing the game.

  3. Fred says:

    Great first half in the derby and some terrific saves by both keepers has kept the score at 1-0 to Sunderland. A few yellow cards were given and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a sending off or two before this one ends.

    Should be a cracking second half.

  4. The Gaffer says:

    Looked like Sunderland should have gotten a penalty in the first half when Danny Graham was pulled down in the box.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  5. jtm371 says:

    wow what an awful call by the linesman.Newcastle done wrong.

  6. David says:

    Newcastle just had a good goal called for offside. No way was Cisse offside. Assistant blew the call.

  7. The Gaffer says:

    Sunderland just had a second penalty claim that should have been awarded for handball in the box. It’s one of those days for the Mackems.

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

  8. Fred says:

    Another great goal for Sunderland. This time Johnson. Maybe too much for Newcastle to get back into this one now. They look a little tired. They should have been level before Sunderland’s second goal if not for a bad call by the officials in calling it an offside when it clearly wasn’t.

  9. Smokey Bacon says:

    I wonder how many Sunderland fans give a toss about their manager’s political views about now?

  10. Fred says:

    I love how Di Canio celebrates a goal as if he has just scored. He is never dull.

  11. Fred says:

    Wow! What is it with Sunderland today. Yet another terrific goal. Worthy winners on the day. This 3-0 defeat will be hard for Newcastle to swallow. Losing at home convincingly to your hated neighbors.

  12. jtm371 says:

    Never saw this one coming well done Sunderland never thought you would pull off this victory.

  13. Sam says:

    I know the conditions at Stoke are not good with the wind and rain but Stoke are just terrible. Only 1-0 down but if they play anything like they did in the first half they have no chance of getting even a draw.

  14. Sammy says:

    Can’t wait for Chelsea vs Manchester City later! To be honest I’m not really bothered about who wins. This match is like the final.

    Wow, I sure didn’t expect that result by Sunderland earlier, was almost certain that this would be easy for the Magpies. Maybe the managerial change is working.

  15. jtm371 says:

    this second half has been awful by both sides.

  16. Fred says:

    No David Silva for City against Chelsea. He could be a big loss to City.

  17. Fred says:

    Stoke about to lose at home again. 2-0 after that penalty on RVP who scored himself from the spot. Stoke are now truly in a relegation battle.

    • IanCransonsKnees says:

      Heard the first negative message from the Chairman today regarding Pulis. My source asked him this week when he’s going to sack him, up until now he’s alway backed him but the response to the question was ‘everyone has their sell by date’. Hopefully he’s had enough of him too.

  18. Frill Artist says:

    I don’t think that was a penalty. To be fair, he kind of slid due to the wet ground.

  19. jtm371 says:

    Very sad weekend for English football pitch invasion at Portsmouth the disgrace with Millwall and after today’s Tyne wear derby clashes with fans and police outside St James Park.let me guess they will blame it on the death of Thatcher.

  20. Justin says:

    QPR and Reading are going to get relegated and it will be interesting to see who joins them. Right now based on results and performances in the last few weeks I’d say Stoke are in real trouble. They haven’t played with any urgency like Villa, Southampton, Wigan and Sunderland.

    For me it’s going to be one of Wigan and Stoke. Wigan because they have a tough schedule and Stoke because of the way they are playing.

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