Depending whether you prefer to read BBC Sport or The Guardian, Arsene Wenger’s outlook for his club’s chances of qualifying for the next round of the UEFA Champions League either looks dead and buried or there’s still hope. The Guardian leads with a headline (see below) that says Wenger concedes trophy hopes after Bayern defeat, while BBC Sport writes that Wenger retains hope.

While Arsenal are not mathematically eliminated from the UEFA Champions League, it was another disappointing performance from the Gunners. Wenger was unwilling to make changes early in the match. And his tactic of playing Theo Walcott up front by himself looked particularly silly given the height and strength of the Bayern Munich defense.

The question for Arsenal fans is when will your patience run out? What has to happen in order for Wenger to be forced out (or upstairs)? How bad does it have to get before someone else, who would be able to get Arsenal back to winning silverware, gets a chance to replace Wenger? Share your opinions in the comments section below.

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