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Spain vs Croatia and Italy vs Ireland, Euro 2012: Open Thread

group c fans Spain vs Croatia and Italy vs Ireland, Euro 2012: Open Thread

Spain vs Croatia: 2:45pm ET
Italy vs Ireland: 2:45pm ET
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Get our your calculators. You may need them later to figure out who will advance from this group. The easy path will be for Spain and Italy to win, sending both nations through to the quarter-finals. Where it gets complicated is if there is a draw in the Spain-Croatia match. I’m not going to go into all of the possibilities, but suffice to say, it should get quite interesting if Spain isn’t winning their game.

Here are the teams for today:

Spain team: Casillas; Arbeloa, Pique, Ramos, Alba; Busquets, Alonso, Xavi, Silva, Iniesta; Torres

Croatia team: Pletikosa; Vida, Corluka, Schildenfeld, Strinic; Vukojevic, Pranjic; Srna, Modric, Rakitic; Mandzukic.

Italy team: Buffon; Abate, Barzagli, Chiellini, Balzaretti; De Rossi, Pirlo, Marchisio; Motta; Cassano, Di Natale

Ireland team: Given; O’Shea, St Ledger, Dunne, Ward; McGeady, Whelan, Andrews, Duff; Doyle, Keane

Before, during or after today’s matches, join in the conversation by posting your rants, raves, questions and observations in the comments section below.

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37 Responses to Spain vs Croatia and Italy vs Ireland, Euro 2012: Open Thread

  1. Dust says:

    C’mon Croatia upset the Spaniards, some one put corluka in a closet before the game…it’s thier only hope!

  2. NC says:

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

    I have this sudden urge to play foosball.

  3. Dust says:

    Wait what ? Did I just hear correctly on the broadcast, a 20,000 euro fine for croatia as their fans are found guilty of racism and Bendtner gets 100,000 euro fine and a 1 match ban for showing the elastic waist of some sponsored underpants….. LoL.

    Serious about racism my arse, what a joke! Not tolerance, sure maybe if the racist fans wore sponsored underpants they would take it more seriously. Platini is such a joke.

    • krazymunky says:

      CONCACAF – Blazer, Warner and etc…is a joke.

      nvm FIFA in general is a joke when it comes to ethics, money and corruption

    • Guy says:

      I posted this link earlier on another thread. It is completely inexplicable. No one can believe anything UEFA has to say about their efforts to battle racism in the sport. Actions speak louder than words and their actions are clear for all the world to see. Platini, etal, speak with forked tongue.

      • Paul says:

        But of course we all know that for UEFA, a player daring to show off anything with a non-UEFA endorsed sponsor is a crime punishable by a huge £80,000 fine because it could have an effect on their other (officially sanctioned) sponsors who may argue their product has been tarnished by somebody else having free publicity.

        Porto being fined £16,700 for their fans racist abuse is clearly UEFA showing how they’re not really bothered so they’ll charge something which is better than nothing.

        What this means to people living in the real world is that they’re only bothered about protecting their own interests when it comes to MONEY whereas when it comes to racism they’re not overly fussed and would prefer people to just shake hands because after all whatever goes on during those 90 minutes should just be forgotten with the shake of a hand as famously said by Sepp Blatter. FIFA, UEFA… they’re all the same: corrupt ba*tards who would no doubt sell their own families down the river if it meant they could either make a few quid or sweep something under the carpet! It disgusts me more and more when I read things about it so I really should stop :-/

    • Pete says:

      I think you might have got your facts mixed up, the fine Croatia has already received was for something else:

      ‘Last week it was fined 25,000 euros ($31,400, 20,000 pounds) after fans lit flares and let off smoke bombs to celebrate goals in their opening match against the Republic of Ireland, also in Poznan, on June 10.’

      The Racism charge has not been heard yet, as far as I am aware it is expected tomorrow.

      ‘A ruling on the case — the first for racism at Euro 2012 — is expected on Tuesday. The penalty will be eyed closely given Platini’s previous assertions that European football’s governing body has a “zero tolerance” on the issue.’

      • Dust says:

        As i put this the post, It was the commentator for the Spain Croatia game that mentioned the Croatia fa being fined for the fans apparent behaviour, it was just as this game was stopped for a sec with the flares smoke on the pitch…again.

        I’m sure ESPN would like that feedback tho.

  4. Dust says:

    Any other team and that tackle by Ramos would have been a penalty. Studs up and all!

  5. taimur says:

    seriously, what’s up with the pics of all the chics? We don’t them to get us gyrated & excited about the games. lol.

  6. taimur says:

    lol did u hear the commentator say a mouth-watering clash between Portland Timbers and Seattle Sounders? haha. he must have been laughing his @#s off inside. props to find for not cracking up at that.

  7. Dust says:

    So if Italy win and Croatia win then Spain are out because of the head to head?…ouch

    • Matt says:

      Nope Spain would be out because they would only have 4 points (compared to Croatia’s 7 and Italy’s 5, hypothetically)

  8. Pres says:

    Why do they keep announcing that if Italy win and Spain draws, Croatia is out? I don’t understand that unless Italy scores another goal. Even then equal goal dif.

    • Matt says:

      It goes into a 3 team mini-league, which I hadn’t heard of until this 3rd set of group games. They’ve all drawn against each other.

      Italy: GF:2, GA:2
      Spain: GF:1, GA:1.
      Croatia: GF:1, GA:1.

      Italy is top on goals scored. Then Spain tops Croatia due to overall goal difference.

      This mini league thing is a very poor way to sort out this mess. It basically means that Italy could squeak by Ireland and win the group even though Spain and Croatia both beat Ireland soundly.

    • Paul says:

      I don’t like the head-to-head system it’s too confusing but the run-down is this:

      Italy – need to win! If this match ends 0-0 and Italy win their match then Italy progress; if this ends 1-1 Italy would have to beat Ireland by 3 goals to go through; If this match was 2-2 then no matter what Italy go out

      Croatia – 0-0 and they’re out; if Italy beat Ireland by 2 goals or less then Croatia go through; draw this 2-2 then they go through

      Spain – will only get knocked out if they lose

      Ireland – not a chance in the world!

      Hope that makes sense… it’s definitely a head wreck lol

  9. Dust says:

    Holy s$&@. Wtf how did they waste that!!!

  10. Matt says:

    What a save from Casillas. I am hoping for Croatia to score so Spain have to go for it. Italy look so pedestrian but content with their 1-0.

  11. Dust says:

    Croatia could just snatch the winner.

  12. Dust says:

    Corluka got mugged on that corner

  13. Jim says:

    Ireland came out strong, looking like they were going to be the better team on the day. As soon as Italy scored their first goal, the momentum was sucked out of the team in my opinion. I really thought they were going to be the winner today, or least put a goal in the net. It was like that for all three matches. As soon as they gave up a goal, they played like they were just out there going through the motions. A lot of players had a great game today, and it was a much better showing than the previous two matches at least. Tough tournament for the Irish. It was an accomplishment to just get there for the team, hopefully they can build on it for the World Cup.

  14. taimur says:

    Spain really haven’t played well in the two games against the stronger teams. They ran riot against Ireland, but so did Croatia and Italy to a lesser extent. Against Italy, they didn’t look too convincing until Di Natale scored and then they woke up. It would have been a similar situation if Rakitic had scored, then Spain would have had to improve. If England and France were watching this game, they would have been encouraged. This is Croatia would wasted a good chance in front of goal and you don’t get many chances like this against the best ball-possessing team in the world. Rooney or Benzema would put that shot away in their sleep and park the bus for the remainder of the game. Spain could easily have been out and beaten today. They look no where as fluid as they have in the past.

  15. BA14 says:

    Spain plays a nice game of keep away. Now if they could take more shots at goals they would be fun to watch.

  16. Matt says:

    proud of the way Croatia played this tournament, too bad we were in a tough group.

  17. Jose says:

    If this play was properly called as a penalty just before Spain’s goal – Croatia wins the pool and Spain is out:

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