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Why Kompany’s Tackle On Nani Shows How The System Is Broken

vincent kompany nani Why Kompanys Tackle On Nani Shows How The System Is Broken

Soccer has been one of the most important things for me almost my entire life, but if there is one thing I don’t like about the sport, it’s when questionable calls happen like the one on Sunday where Vincent Kompany got red carded for his challenge on Nani. The reason why I don’t like instances like this is because it’s so open to debate. I like things either black or white, but when a critical moment happens in a game and the decision is made based on a subjective opinion, I don’t think it’s fair to either team (Manchester City and Manchester United, in this case).

Depending on which side of the fence you sit on, you may believe that the tackle by Kompany was a clear-cut red card, or not a foul at all. But what it has generated is a massive debate and complete pandemonium. You have football commentators such as Alan Green and Robbie Savage on BBC Five Live saying that Foy should have used common sense and that he shouldn’t have used the ‘letter of the law’ when making his decision because it was a heated derby. But how is it fair that a different set of rules should be used in a derby match?

The different matters of opinion regarding whether the decision was the correct one or not are enormous, whether it’s across the Internet by journalists or former referees to football supporters on social media or the web. Then you have commentators such as Martin Tyler who tried to diffuse the situation by telling viewers that Manchester United were already one-nil ahead before the incident with Kompany happened. Add to that all of the differing opinions from the talking head pundits on television across the globe, and it’s no wonder that your head is spinning in regards to the correct decision.

When the tackle by Kompany was made, even the camera angles told a different story. When viewed from behind, Kompany’s challenge looked like an innocuous act, scooping the ball from the approaching Nani and then jumping back up again to move the ball away. But when viewed from Nani’s perspective, running toward Kompany, you can clearly see how the Manchester City’s footballer’s studs are raised.

When you think about it, the incident sums up how messed up the whole process is. You have TV and radio commentators and pundits, who are the most influential, but many of them don’t know the rules. They’re instantly providing their analysis and criticism, which then fires up the viewers and supporters who, equally — for the most part — don’t know the rules either. But then you have silence from the referee and the football referees association, so the judge and jury ends up being a mixture of the media personalities themselves.

At the end of the day, instances like the one with Kompany creates complete bedlam with no order and no consistency. How many times have we seen similar tackles made by players in games to the one that Kompany made, and a referee didn’t even bat an eyelid?

On top of all of this, you have to wonder what has happened to tackling in this sport. Slowly but surely, the art of tackling is being eradicated from the game. While Kompany’s tackle was dangerous, the degree of recklessness about it was relatively minor due to the lack of force Kompany put into it as well as Nani jumping out of way to avoid a collision. By penalizing tackles like this, footballers will think twice about tackling. Sure, safe tackling will continue to exist, but players may hold back from committing tougher tackles even if the tackles themselves are lawful, for fear that referees will penalize them or make the wrong decision.

The part of soccer I don’t like is the inconsistency and the obvious confusion that is created when incidents like the one happen with Kompany. Without video technology being used and without referees being interviewed, the game becomes chaotic and you then end up with tons of voices giving their opinion when the ones that are the most important, the referees, are silent on the matter. It’s good for debate, but seems unfair and out of control.

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42 Responses to Why Kompany’s Tackle On Nani Shows How The System Is Broken

  1. Daniel says:

    Great article! I really think everything should just be run by the letter of the law. That way players know what they can and can not do.. without having to worry about the subjective opinion of the referee.

    • Alex says:

      Starting the article out with the word soccer devalues anything you state in your argument.

      If you ever played the game, you remember that two footed tackle were legal….but after many leg brakes & career ends, thr rule was rightfully installed.

      There is no subjective opinions, inconsistency or obvious confusion….there is the law and Kompany knew what he did….look at him after the card was shown, he had nothing to say…he knew he was wrong….

      • The Gaffer says:

        “Starting the article out with the word soccer devalues anything you state in your argument”?? Give me a break. How snobbish is that!

        Cheers,
        The Gaffer

        • Alex says:

          Soccer is the American name, Football is the world name. I am an american who has played overseas and in south america.

          Has nothing to do with being snob, has everything to do with respect of a game.

          I am trying to get an insight (understand) your thought process and questions you pose. You seem to be asking many questions and taking many liberties as a writer, having little or no knowledge of the intent of the law..

          If you have watched football (soccer) very long, you know different country ref associations interpret rules different, except on this rule. In the Premier league, after all the injuries just to the Arseanl players (excluding all other clubs) the FA has taken a “no exclusion” stance on this. Kompany lunged, you can rationaize al you want, give difffereent camera angles, and say it was not a two footed lunge, but look at Kompany’s reaction after the foul, he knew exactly what he did, and he walked off like he should have.

          One question, have you ever been taken down by a two footed challenge? I have, and was out for about a month (4 matches).

          Certain things you do and don’t do on the pitch, and a two footed challenge is NOT what a player does, even if he makes contact or not….and BTW, it doesn’t have to be two footed anymore, just serious play, and any who have played, know the difference….

          We are talking career ending foul here….period…

          • The Gaffer says:

            It has nothing to do with the respect of the game. That’s ridiculous. The term ‘soccer’ is used worldwide, as well as in England (“Soccer AM,” “Soccer Saturday,” “Pro Evolution Soccer,”) although football is the more widely used term.

            But in the States, it’s “soccer.” If I talk about football with my mates, they’ll think I’m talking about gridiron football.

            There’s nothing wrong with using the term soccer. And there’s nothing wrong with using the term football. But criticizing someone and being snobby because they call the game soccer is awful.

            Cheers,
            The Gaffer

          • Liam says:

            Seriously guy, you played soccer?!?! No way! Please tell us all more about that one time when you got tackled! We’re all riveted.

      • Why? says:

        Alex you are heavily mistaken if you think Kompany had nothing to say or he thought anything other than the Ref being wrong! Go to the 9.10 minute mark just to see how wrong you are in City‘s tunnel cam.

        http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Features/Tunnel-Cam-City-v-United-8th-Jan

        Yet again there is no rule regarding so called two footed challenges. Not that Kompany made a two footed anything challenge he used one foot to take a ball that was never in Nani’s possession and after passing Nani traps the ball.

        Here are some great tackles.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep6czGrq8uM&feature=related

        No doubt someone will say they should have all been sent off!

        And he’s the protagonist himself with a studs high over and nowhere near the ball lunge made in anger (as clear a case of serious foul play you’ll ever see). Guess what it’s a yellow!!!!! Oh note all the Portsmouth players trying to get him sent off, not.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJn4UgpjY4

      • Why? says:

        Alex you are heavily mistaken if you think Kompany had nothing to say or he thought anything other than the Ref being wrong! Go to the 9.10 minute mark just to see how wrong you are in City‘s tunnel cam.

        http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Features/Tunnel-Cam-City-v-United-8th-Jan

        Yet again there is no rule regarding so called two footed challenges. Not that Kompany made a two footed anything challenge he used one foot to take a ball that was never in Nani’s possession and after passing Nani traps the ball.

        Here are some great tackles.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep6czGrq8uM&feature=related

        No doubt someone will say they should have all been sent off!

        And he’s the protagonist himself with a studs high over and nowhere near the ball lunge made in anger (as clear a case of serious foul play you’ll ever see). Guess what it’s a yellow!!!!! Oh note all the Portsmouth players trying to get him sent off, not.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJn4UgpjY4

      • robert says:

        Starting your comment out with, “Starting the article out with the word soccer devalues anything you state in your argument,” makes you sound like a pretentious simpleton. Who are you anyway? Who cares if you played or not. Millions of people do. You want a cookie? There are tons of better players than you who use the word, “soccer,” and could devalue you with a nutmeg.

        It’s a word queenie. People use it. Get over it. If you want to nitpick someone’s word choice, go back and correct your own 4th grade spelling errors.

        As for the red, it wrecked the game. Correct call, but it wrecked the game. Ref made the right decision, Kompany made the wrong one. Bummed me out, but City put on a good show regardless.

  2. Steve says:

    There is no letter of the law regarding 2 footed challenges. It’s a myth in football. These are the rules…(Kompany didn’t break any by the way)

    A player is sent off and shown the red card if they commit any of the following seven offences.

    Serious foul play

    Violent conduct, such as throwing a punch

    Spitting at an opponent or another person

    A player other than the goalkeeper denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball

    Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free-kick or a penalty kick

    Using offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

    Receiving a second caution in the match

    • David the Yank says:

      Hi, Steve. Well, you’re somewhat right that “two-footed” is never described in the Laws. But you need to go further into “Serious Foul Play” as FIFA has multiple tests for what is now deemed Serious Foul Play. One of them, the one for which Foy sent Kompany off is:

      Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.

      I always tell refs I am training please note that in that definition, nowhere does it mention actually making contact with the opponent. Simply lunging at in a dangerous manner is enough to constitute Serious Foul Play.

      In addition, most non-referees (and apparently ALL commentators!!) are unaware that for many of the fouls, there is no requirement of actually making contact with the player. So if you attempt to trip, or attempt to kick, or jump at an opponent, those are fouls! You do not need to make contact. Which is why it’s crazy when commentators or players or managers start screaming “but he got the ball!”

      P.S. I am not a United fan and think that Kompany is one of the candidates for Premier League Player of the Year.

      • Alex says:

        Spot on David the Yank…

        old rule was, if in the act of tackling you got the ball, & the player was injuried, it was no foul; but in todays game (rules) where the players are much faster and can anticipate opportunites for serious fouls, the rules have tried to remove the career ending fouls, like the one Kompany did. Nani could have slipped before jumping the tackle, or not been fast enough to react, etc, etc…and we would be talking about a broken leg or something worse.

        And to answer some of the comments below, there is NO skill in tackling when you leave your feet. You have no control, and you pose a threat to others, including you own team mates if they happen to be close. Once you lunge, the red card should be shown everytime, no matter who the player, plays for.

        • Why? says:

          Alex,
          You really need to look at some of these leg breaking challenges two footed challenges they do not resemble Kompany’s at all. You could say that every time a player jumps and uses his arms for purchase (practically every time) they ‘could’ break someone’s nose! It’s just not gonna happen!

          Ramsey on Shawcross never use two feet and had one foot touching the floor.
          Taylor on Edwardo not ‘two footed’ and also has contact with the ground.
          When a player gets this kind of injury it is mostly because the leg is grounded and a the tackler has put his foot on the leg with pressure which is therefore deemed as ‘excessive force‘ and rightly so.

          I have never seen any rule that said ‘if in the act of tackling you got the ball, & the player was injured, it was no foul’ Could you please post the source for this? I get the FIFA rule book updated every season and have for the last 20 years and have never seen rule like this.

          David,
          you base everything on that there was a lunge at the player fair enough that your interpretation . The problem here you choose to say ‘lunge’ as it’s in the rules and seems to serve a purpose for you but even then it must be accompanied by excessive force to warrant a sending off that’s where it falls down as if you decide to say that instead of going to ground and taking the ball as Kompany did that he ‘lunged’ where did the excessive force come in? It is so clear he went for and got the ball and managed to control the ball. He did not go for the player as if he did I’m sure he would have got him as easy as he did the ball nor did he didn’t use any excess that is didn’t push his feet out, didn’t try to catch Nani, he simply went to ground and did exactly what he meant to do. No bad tackle. No excessive force. Even more telling no complaint from the biggest meal maker in the premier league! Just a over zealous Ref who was caught up in a moment and made a judgment that in the end is down to his interpretation (but most agree it was a decent tackle, at worse some even said it ‘may have been a bit reckless at worse (not my opinion) which would have been a yellow. The lunge must be accompanied ‘with excessive force
          and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play’ Which you would have to say Kompany excessive force but he controlled a ball and move it on where did this force go?

          David I would like your opinion on this tackle.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJn4UgpjY4

          I see that as a ‘lunge’ with a player out of control as he throws himself into the tackle clearly using ‘excessive force’ he to doesn’t touch the player either. He does not go to ground but lifts himself with excessive force and high feet way over the ball by a least 2 foot and not even in the direction of the ball he’s not meaning to injure but just because he is angry he the lost the ball. This player has no control at all in this play and this by the letter of the rule you have quoted ‘serious foul play’ is a clear red card how can the Ref interpret this as any thing else? Kompany’s was also down to the interpretation of a Ref how can the tackles be so different and be this far out on the out come? Foy has made a few bad ones recently, 90% of ex-ref’s and pundits etc do not agree with his decision. This tackle is not slated or even really called and mistake by the Ref. This is a clear example. Similar tackles to Kompany’s happen 6 or 7 times every week with no debate why? Because nobody gets sent off or hurt and people say great tackle because that’s what it was!

  3. Andy says:

    Luck for Nani, he is a soft player and he avoided contact. The argument would be different had Nani not avoided contact, because he would have ended up like many Arsenal players in the past couple seasons with cringe worthy breaks. I believe only one of those tackles received a red card. Both sets of studs were shown and that is dangerous/violent. The right call was made and Kompany knows it.

    • Nick says:

      Andy…
      But the fact of the matter is that contact WAS avoided and that Kompany made a very skilled tackle. People aren’t talking about this, but if you watch the video, the studs don’t come out until AFTER Nani has cleared Kompany. Then the studs come out as he jerks his leg to collect the call and stand up. The biggest indicator of it all is Nani’s reaction. In fact, everyone but Rooney did not have a problem with the tackle. They are the footballers, they can obviously tell when anything is even supposed to be questionable, and Nani is one of the biggest complainers in the game. The fact that he could not even produce a reaction to this ‘tackle’ says it all.

      • Bishopville Red says:

        No Nick, he made a reckless tackle and he was lucky Nani reacted as he did so as to avoid it being an injurious tackle.

        Consider the following: If I cock my fist and swing at you on the field, it does not matter whether or not I make contact. I’ve committed an ejectionable offence. The fact that you had the sense to get out of the way does not lessen my action, just the result. Had I broken your jaw, I could have gotten an extended ban, but without making contact, I’ve done more than enough to earn a red card and subsequent ban.

        Similarly, While Kompany didn’t appear malicious, the second you go in two-footed your action is regarded as serious foul play and begging for trouble. Had Nani been caught, he very well could have broken his leg. Had that happened, nobody would argue that it wasn’t a dangerous tackle

        GAFFER: I disagree with your contention that the art of tackling is being eradicated from the game. The ART of the tackle is alive and well. The careless act of clumsy tackles and the macho contention that a man should be able to ride through a reducer is what’s endangered. Thankfully. Enough of crap players who are labeled “hard” because they’re clumsy, nasty, and unapologetic.

        • The Gaffer says:

          Through a combination of players diving to win penalties and referees giving yellow cards for the slightest of fouls, I still think that art of tackling is starting to disappear.

          Cheers,
          The Gaffer

          • Pakapala says:

            Yes the art of skillful tackling is disappearing specially in England, but not because of referees giving cards but because unfortunately there are too many players who are taught that as long as they get the ball it doesn’t matter how they go in a tackle. A good tackle minimize the risk of injury not only for the player being tackled but also the one doing the tackle.

            Maybe players should be taught how to tackle properly (launching into a tackle):
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWthccmu9xE

        • Noah says:

          Making a tackle and punching someone are two totally different things. Unlike trying to punch someone, tackling is apart of football. It’s a big part in fact. Kompany was doing what a defender would have done. Taking the ball away from the attacker, and he did so very well I might add. You can’t compare Kompany’s tackle to punching someone. If you try to punch someone than you should be sent off because it’s not part of the game. What Kompany did was made a great tackle which did not deserve a red card.

        • Nick says:

          Bishopville,
          I don’t buy that for one second. Intentionally punching someone is clear intent and malice.
          “Similarly, While Kompany didn’t appear malicious, the second you go in two-footed your action is regarded as serious foul play and begging for trouble.”
          ‘Begging for trouble’ is the referee’s problem. It’s that dumb mindset of instantly throwing out a 2 footed challenge. It boggles my mind that people can be so narrow in their thinking to completely throw out the idea of a two footed tackle that is both safe and clean. Kompany did this. Sure, Nani jumped. But Kompany also did not go in that hard, studs were down most of the way (as someone else stated, almost all sliding tackles have studs showing, 1 leg or 2), and there was absolutely no scissor motion. Also, the idea that if Nani had been caught, that no matter what he would have broken his leg, is absolutely ridiculous.

  4. scrumper says:

    Great tackle by Kompany! Any sliding tackle will have “studs raised” as the silly commentators like to say. Look at Kompany the shot shows him in perfect formation on his side, his legs together, it’s impossible not to have studs exposed. Now if he’d gone in on his back feet first that’s something else.

    Simply put todays players are soft and can’t take a decent challenge.

  5. Jason says:

    Yes it was a good and successful tackle by Kompany and Man Citys perspective BUT a challenge with two feet like that is potentially dangerous and if you miss it, it CAN be career ending in worst case scenario and all referees needs to crack down on challenges like that but theres need to be clear rules so every player can relate too. Thats the problem in the Premier League and other competitions today that referees are not consistently enough and decisions varies extremly from game to game.

    But on the otherside almost everyone playing in PL knows that twofooted tackles have a very high chance of being a red card so it was just a bad decision by Kompany in the heat of the moment.

    It annoys me that City and Mancini is complaining so f**king much about everything and not accept it was a stupid challenge you should not do and appeals against the card.

    PS. I Hate United so im not agreeing with the card because i side with United its because it was a right decision.

    Don’t flame for bad english grammar :)

  6. gooner says:

    No talk about Arsenal here. You guys talked about the return of Paul Scholes to Manchester United, but you didn’t write about Thiery Henry’s return to The Arsenal. In case you guys missed, but he scored the winning goal for Arsenal today against Leeds United in a tightly-contested 3rd round FA Cup tie. You even wrote about Vincent Kompany’s red card and I agree that’s the talking point. I don’t think it was a foul even tbh. Clean tackle wins the ball absolutely no malicious intent whatsoever. But you’ll guys talk about the problems facing Liverpool and Chelsea and now even Spurs and the two Manchester clubs, but you’re forgetting Arsenal. Arsenal are a proud club and are no doubt one of the biggest clubs in English football and will always be a big club, competing for major domestic and continental honors.

  7. Why? says:

    Steve I think you are right.
    There are many instances of sending offs that do not exist like this so called ‘two footed tackle’, both feet off the floor or being the ‘last man’ these are used by pundits who don’t know the rules they can’t even be bothered reading the FIFA rules book even though it there job! Then Joe public pick up on what they say and tend to copy them thinking them to be all knowledgeable.

    The ball was not in Nani’s control and never was it was a pass by a Utd player that didn’t get to it’s target so the very word tackle is used yet Nani didn’t even have the ball to be tackled! Kompany played a free ball and does not break the serious foul play rules (read the FIFA rules on this to see) these rules do not say anything about two footed, lifting off the ground or sliding in. On top of this the ref doesn’t blow until he looks at Rooney who has his arms in the air, in this time Kompany has stood and the ball is with another City player he then and only then seems to feel compelled to act.

    Most people in the British media seem to think it wasn’t a red (serious foul play )and those that talk about ‘two footed’ etc simply don’t know what they are talking about as it doesn‘t exist. I cannot see this red card being taken back as this Ref has already made some cock ups lately and the FA won’t want to see there Ref getting it in the ear agian. It is also hard to go against how he will say he has seen the incident as City need to prove a case that cannot be proved easily only replays and common sense should prevail but that’s not how the FA work. If the Ref says he thought Kompany used excessive force or the like (which he has to) it won’t matter if a 100% of others say it was a great tackle the card will stand even if the panel all say they didn’t think it was serious foul play it’s a hard one to take back it will need a Ref who has made a fair few gaffs recently to say he made a mistake and he would have to be daft to do that as it would be the lower leagues for him.

  8. Steve Street says:

    I am a City supporter who attended the game and the sending off left me in amazement at the time and since then I have become even more confused by it all.
    Confused, why you may ask?
    Take a look at the picture of Micah Richards in the second half making an attempt to bicycle kick the ball. Was he in control? Were not both his feet off the ground? Could it be deemed reckless?
    No free kick, no card and oh yes, no complaint from any United player.
    Had Richards made contact with the head of the United player, some kid in the family stand might have had it resting in his lap.

  9. trickybrkn says:

    I was a pretty rash red, but the thing is ref sees the two feet, and thinks red. granted one foot was sort of a guide foot when you look at it in replay, but he was out of control. Even with said ‘guide’ foot he couldn’t have pulled out of the slide. Kompany wasn’t out to injure, but he was victim to poor technique. If I was the ref, last thing I’d do in THAT game is give a red unless it was clear…. so all I can think is the ref saw two studs in the air… cause after all he did win the ball fairly before any sort of contact. thus is football.

  10. Jj says:

    There should be no interpretation of a rule in any instance. The problem stems from players diving, teams, managers and supporters intimidating refs on and off the pitch and like the Gaffer so eloquently wrote the ignorant pundints who get the final say.
    Too many times in the EPL there seems to be a different set of rules for the big boys and the other 16. The punishing of Wolves and Blackpool over fielding a ‘second rate team’ happens at least once a season.
    Until the FA takes measures and punishes players for surrounding the ref when a whistle is blown, begins to allow all managers decide what is the best squad that day, and enforce all rules all the time this conversation will always be the loudest.
    I cant believe someone compared throwing a punch to making a tackle.

  11. old33 says:

    Is Kompany now aware that referees are more tending to issue red cards for two footed challenges? As a captain and central defender, was it really worth it to go in that way that early in the game?

  12. Rich says:

    Steve kindly pointed out the Rules for red cards and mentioned the following:

    Using offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

    Why then was Evra not charged in the racism case against Suarez when he admitted to this in relation to Suarez’s sister………..cos Man U always have a helping hand by the FA.

  13. Earl Reed says:

    The problem is the hyperbole and down-the-line bias of everyone commenting.

    1) If you’re a United fan, then it’s a bloody reckless challenge that was likely to send a brick wall to the ground! Ban him for life!!!

    2) If you’re not, it was innocent, he won mostly ball, had no intent…yada yada yada, Foy was paid off.

    Here’s the bottom line: There were parts of the challenge that were reckless. There were parts that weren’t. I will imagine that, within the next month, we’ll see a Chris Foy-officiated match where a much more dangerous tackle receives yellow (or even no card). The wounds will be opened again, and everyone will wonder. It’s the brilliant circle of sports hyperbole, where anything goes as long as they wear your own colors.

  14. Yespage says:

    Agreed. I didn’t have a horse in this match, and in real time, the play looked extremely clean. In the replay, the play looked extremely dangerous. A yellow would probably have been better because as others noted, the challenge was in no way intended to harm Nani.

    I do wonder, how much of a defense for this play Man City players would be giving if it was Barry with the ball and a Stoke City player doing the tackle.

  15. scrumper says:

    The way it’s going, there will soon be calls for players to wear Peter Cech helmets in case they head the ball.

  16. Barry says:

    If you watch the replay you can see that the referee intitially wasn’t going to do anything but the moment Rooney, who was very close to the referee at the time, began waving his hand for a card to be given then the referee showed the red card. I do think any player that signals for an opponent to be given a card should be given one himself.

    I totally agree that there is too much inconsistency in the way in which referees officiate a game. Lampard was given a yellow card in the game against Wolves for a foul that was ten times worse than what Kompany did. When I looked at the Kompany challenge I initially thought it was a very good tackle. Yes, on replay it did seem that he had both legs off the ground but he went in sideways. Not sure if that makes a difference. I don’t know what the exact rule(s) say.

    By the way, Chris Foy has had some very bad games as areferee this season. He was in charge of the QPR vs Chelsea game which was full of controversy and the Stoke vs Spurs game which he was poor in as well. In a derby of this type Foy should not have been selected.

    • David the Yank says:

      Again, here’s the exact definition that Foy applied. So one or two feet are irrelevant. Also, sideways, back, front: completely irrelevant. The only things Foy has to judge were did it endanger the opponent? and was it with excessive force? even the definition of excessive force in the laws refers right back to endangering the opponent. So it’s all about referee judgment about endangering the opponent. There is no question that Lampard’s tackle the other day was a straight red and the ref utterly blew it. There are really good refs in the premier league this year, and Chris Foy is not one of them; I was shocked that the FA appointed him for such a big derby. Nevertheless, Kompany, who has otherwise been terrific, needs to pick his spots to tackle in such an aggressive manner…

  17. David the Yank says:

    Definition: Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play

    • Why? says:

      Just a few points to raise on your comment David. 1, If he did lunge how do you lunge sideways? 2, Do you think he lunged at the player or the ball? 3, why did Foy take so long to blow and when he did why was he looking at Rooney?

      What is done is done and as I said above it wasn’t ever gonna be taken back but it was never a sending off. A two footed challenge means you used two feet to challenge for the ball people seem to be getting confused he used one foot and one foot only to take the ball. You can go and look at any challenge you want on you tube put in worlds best tackles or best slide tackles and you will see the same kind of tackle.

  18. Mark the Dog says:

    Boiling it down to “black and white”, Kompany knows full well that a 2 footed tackle is being shown a red card. Should not have attempted it. I saw no significant tactical advantage to making a 2 footed tackle. Furthermore, any good footballer has to know his referee and his track record. I don’t like the play at all and it deserved red.

    I think that the FA denying an appeal on this play, or Barton’s red card with QPR, after they appealed Rooney’s red card to FIFA, is a terrible decision.

  19. R2Dad says:

    Red cards require excessive force. I am sure that the FA has made a concerted effort to tamp down on these sorts of tackles this year. So far, fewer injuries, but we’re only half way through the season.

  20. Carolyn says:

    This is what Graham Poll, former EPL referee has to say about the Kompany sending off:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2084004/Vincent-Kompany-sending-Graham-Poll-verdict.html

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