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EPL Talk Podcast Live Show, Open Thread: North West Derby Day

EPL Talk Podcast Logo draft 300x242 EPL Talk Podcast Live Show, Open Thread: North West Derby DayManchester United has their first losing streak of the year, failing to show against Liverpool after their mid-week loss to Chelsea. But don’t disparage the Reds’ performances, particularly those of Luis Suárez, Raul Meireles, and hat-trick hero Dirk Kuyt. Liverpool snaps a three-match losing streak to United, beating the Red Devils 3-1.

At 10 p.m. BST, 5 p.m. EST, the EPL Talk gang will get together to talk about that, the rest of the weekend’s results, and upcoming mid-week action as we go our live streaming (UStream permitting) recording for the weekend. But as you know by know, the weekend review show is never just the three of us.

The show can’t reach its potential without your help. Use the comments (below) the chatroom (embedded, after the jump) Twitter and email to prompt us, question us – criticism, entertain, or generally help us. We’ll to get your views on the show.

After the jump, the chat room and live player. The show starts at 2:00 p.m. PST, but the bad music and good chat will start about 30 minutes before.

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26 Responses to EPL Talk Podcast Live Show, Open Thread: North West Derby Day

  1. Edward C says:

    Seems an Arsenal draw before a United game is a good thing for Arsenal (Newcastle collapse followed by Wolves’ victory over Utd; Sunderland draw followed by Liverpool victory). Since Arsenal have worked hard to put themselves (ourselves, I am a fan after all) out of the race but it’s not working, does anyone else think it’s time they actually started looking the business, seeing as they’re staring at a very real chance of winning the league? And in my opinion, any one of the injured 3 would have made the difference for Arsenal yesterday.

    • Richard Farley says:

      I agree with that. Any of the three.

      I imagine United supporters, though, are also saying “isn’t about time we …” It begs a question I’ll ask on today’s show: How good is the top of England? Compared to Spain, but also compared to England’s 2009-10?

      Thoughts?

  2. EdmontonScouse says:

    The general thought by many, especially the ManU fans that I know, is that this season they have been a decidedly average team (especially in attack & midfield) punching above their weight. With the losses to Wolves, Chelsea, and today’s at Liverpool, are they finally starting to show that averageness?

    Also, what does today’s result mean for the title race. Arsenal is still tipped to go out of the UCL at the Camp Nou this week, but can they recover to finally take advantage of a United slip-up?

    • Richard Farley says:

      Thanks, ES, and congratulations to you and your lot on today’s result.

      On United’s weaknesses, I think a lot of people would question the defense, too; or, more readily, their tendency in 10-11 to big up big goals late.

      • EdmontonScouse says:

        I think a big part of that tendency is the constant injuries to Rio Ferdinand, combined with Ferguson’s habit of playing Evans alongside Vidic in Rio’s absence. Evans seems to have completely lost his form, and shows no sign of regaining it.

        Smalling however, has looked like he might be the replacement to Rio Ferdinand that United have been searching for, and has looked excellent paired with Vidic. It will be interesting to see if Smalling can adjust to the responsibility being foisted on him quickly enough to make a difference.

        • Richard Farley says:

          Agreed, though I do wonder where Smalling was on the first goal, though I haven’t taken a detailed look at the replace. I just noticed has was the only defender that wasn’t involved in the play.

  3. EdmontonScouse says:

    Could Dirk Kuyt have been one of the best strikers in the Premier League if history had been slightly different? He became loved by the Kop for his high-energy defensive displays under Rafa, first as a striker and then as a right winger; but under Dalglish he is showing movement and predatory instincts that have not been seen at Anfield in a long time. Has the defensive Dirk Kuyt we’ve seen for the last four years been a product of the manager, or is the reverse true?

    • Richard Farley says:

      We should talk about this on the show. He obviously has not been able to translate his Eredivisie scoring rate to England, is there some external reason for that? I tend to think no. Even under Dalglish, I believe this is only the second match where he’s scored for King Kenny in league. This match certainly seems like a one off for Dirk Kuyt, Striker of Extraordinary Talent.

      • EdmontonScouse says:

        You may be right Richard. Though after watching the quality and intelligence of Kuyts movement is this game I’m leaning towards maybe. It could have just been the effect of the derby (we all know Kuyt is the epitome of a big-game player) but some of his movement today was better than what we saw from Torres in all but his breakout season.

  4. The Gaffer says:

    Two questions for the panel:

    Should Alan Hutton have been sent off in the Wolves match? And should Richard Stearman’s goal been allowed?

    Cheers,
    The Gaffer

    • Richard Farley says:

      Given our now professes affinity for Wolves (though long-time listeners already knew) where do you think we fall on these … decisions? …

      What did yo think?

      • The Gaffer says:

        Good point there. It’d be a shame if Wolves go down based on how they played today and the injustice that was served.

        Cheers,
        The Gaffer

        • EdmontonScouse says:

          It would be a shame, but I’m wondering if it might be a record in the making? Has there ever been another team that has defeated/drawn the top 6 so consistently, yet still been relegated from the Premier League?

  5. dsm9412 says:

    The world wants to know, Kartik, does Arsenal have a nonzero chance of winning the title in your eyes now? Reading you on Twitter today and hearing you on earlier podcasts, you seem to think that a Chelsea repeat is far more likely. This position has been justified considering the collapses vs. Newcastle and Birmingham City. But with the Gunners only three points down with a game in hand and a match against United at the Emirates, surely they deserve consideration?

  6. EdmontonScouse says:

    Also, I’d love to hear from the podcast team on the recent resurgence of West Ham. It seems like Hitzlsperger was exactly the signing that the Hammers hoped he would be, and Demba Ba is quite honestly turning out to be one of the best signings of the January window. Does the podcast team believe this will continue and see West Ham pull themselves up the table and out of the relelgation fight? Or will they remain precariously placed above the dreaded #18 spot?

  7. Matt says:

    With Kuyt’s ability to score big goals in big games, what happens when Carroll is 90 minutes fit and able to pair up top with Suarez? 4-3-3? Kuyt back to the wing?

  8. Please offer your thoughts on the terrible and inconsistent refereeing of the past week: To name just a few blown calls which had major impacts on a number of games: 1) Martin Atkinson neglecting to send David Luiz to the shower in game against United on Tuesday; 2) Anthony Taylor missing an offside and a clear penalty against Arsenal yesterday; 3) Mark Halsey offering only a yellow when a clear red was called for on Alan Hutton in Spurs-Wolves earlier today; and 4) Phil Dowd giving only a yellow to Jamie Carragher’s brutal tackle on Luis Nani. Any thoughts on how to fix this, other than sacking the whole lot? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

    • Richard Farley says:

      Will do. I’ll probably open the show with this so we don’t have two segments of NW Derby.

    • El Tri 2014 says:

      Don’t forget the FA’s holier than thou approach to any manager that vents against the horrible calls! What are managers to do? Suck their thumbs?

  9. Sonia says:

    Liverpool’s form has been pretty inconsistent. On one hand, they lost 3-1 to a bottom-table team like West Ham but yet they record credible wins against big teams like Man Utd and Chelsea. So, I want to ask, where do you see this Liverpool side going in the future? Are they going to be challenging for the title or stay at a europa league spot- winning the big games, but drawing and losing the small ones – the ones they need to win if they want to secure a champion’s league spot.

    Also, where does United stand after this game? Are they still the team to beat in this premier league race? Basically, do you view this game as just ‘a bad day’ from United or does it signal to you real glaring weaknesses in the squad that will cost them the league?

    • Richard Farley says:

      That’s a good question. I picked United 2-1 before the match because I just didn’t see how Liverpool could go from last week’s performance to beat the team that we saw lose at Stamford Bridge.

      But that was just a cop-out on my part. I didn’t really have a clue as to who would win. Obviously, I didn’t see Kuyt with three.

  10. Kyle says:

    If Liverpool does manage to finish in 4th, what is the precident for a team being that far down the table and finishing in a champions league spot?

  11. Kyle says:

    Also, any thoughts on what City does going forward if they fall out of the top 4 this season? What can the team do to improve with the Fair Play rules coming in effect soon?

    • Richard Farley says:

      Hmmm … we talked about this in mid-week a tiny, tiny bit, but we didn’t think of it from the FFP angle. That would be good to bring-up

  12. Richard Farley says:

    We’ve started-up the traditionally blah music, and I’ll be hanging around the chat room until the show starts (and monitoring it afterward). Hopefully, UStream will cooperate this week. Still, and Qs asked in chat, I’ll try to get on the show.

  13. Dw says:

    Since you mention it, have you ever thought about switching to some more upbeat music? :)

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