World Cup Day 2, United States-England: World Cup Buzz Podcast

wc buzz2 World Cup Day 2, United States England: World Cup Buzz Podcast

It finally came. It finally went. The United States versus England, and as if there was any way we would forget the result, Robert Green made sure to make Saturday’s match an inadvertent classic. On this show, Laurence McKenna, Kartik Krishnaiyer and myself discuss the results of that match, Argentina’s win over Nigeria, and South Korea’s win over Greece. We also look to Sunday, when Germany takes on Australia, Ghana and Serbia meet, and Slovenia and Algeria look to go first in Group C.

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6 Responses to World Cup Day 2, United States-England: World Cup Buzz Podcast

  1. Taka says:

    Guys, it seems you put wrong podcast from Thursday.

  2. TGP says:

    So after listening to the podcast i think we watched or understood two separate games. In the game i saw England was clearly the better team and what killed them was a lack of finishing. Hesky and Lennon and SWP were through on goal and should have put England ahead. I dont quite understand why you were so critical of the english wing play and the cutting inside or crossing into the box. The english wings were beating the American wings constantly with pace. They could easily have had 4 goals in that match and i think if they play as well as they did here they will easily defeat algeria and slovenia. the us is used to desperate defending against better sides and they have team chemistry that many other teams really lack.

    Cappello should have brought on crouch much earlier. It was clear in the second half that the US were playing for the draw. It was equally clear that England would win the aerial battle and that the wings were beating the americans to the byline. if your going to own possesion and be launching crosses or long balls up the pitch crouch is a perfect weapon. When Crouch did come on he had a number of free headers though they didnt amount to much. He was clearly a weapon that the US had no answer for.

    In the first half there were a number of solid points for the US. You could see the potential in their attacks and when they had the ball in the first half they used it well. Jozzy could have buried the header on donovan’s cross and that would have been a just reward for the possession the US had. Findley did contribute and there was some trouble given to the English back line.

    After the goal and after the half though the US decided to bunker down and go for the point. Compare the second half of this game with the second half of the brazil game. your going to see a lot of similarities in how the US played. Desperate defending with only sporadic possession and counter attacks. They didnt really even try to establish possession.

    one clear reason that the US lacked width in the second half is that they were not going to push the fullbacks forward and get beat on the counter. the english wings had too much speed. milner was getting beat badly while he was on the pitch and that allowed the US to get the fullback on his side forward and put in some good crosses. with SWP on the pitch his pace was too big a threat to risk.

    we have no great left back. i would rather have boca at that spot because he doesnt seem to make the mental errors that the other options make and he does a competent job defending. he did get beat by aaron lennons pace but we knew that was going to happen. he certainly wasnt as bad as bornstein was during the last few months. i would not have criticized him as harshly. he is the best option if an imperfect one.

    also, you guys seemed to totally gloss over how useless clark was in the midfield. he was instrumental in giving up the goal as he let gerrard run free. he cant hold the ball and his distribution is bad. if your trying to do anything other than defend he is useless and his defending and decision making can be terrible at times too.

    finally Kartik man your bashing of the fitness of both sides was just wrong. the game degenerated into a bit on longballing because the us had no interest in holding onto possession and the english could kick it straight down the pitch and pick it up at the other end. there wasnt any midfield battle to be fought. If the US looked tired its because they had to defend so hard the last 35 minutes of the game. when your chasing that hard it wears anyone out no matter how fit you might start. i think your also over stating how gassed some of the US were. The did make on nice counter towards the end of the game and seemed not to lack for pace at that point.

    i think that once you understand that BB was always going to play for the draw you will see the game in a different light. Kartik especially i thought was too critical. The US didnt play brilliant football but it was hardly an atrocious game from anyone but green.

  3. Mark says:

    Great analysis TGP. Bradley set out for the draw with a plan of clogging the MF and conceding the wings. Lennon will beat faster better left backs that Bocanegra. Bornstein is too foul prone to play in this game so Boca is the best we’ve got.

    Is there any way the feedback threads on these podcasts from all three sites can be merged. It would generate better discussion

    • Laurence says:

      Good point Mark. I don’t know. Maybe The Gaffer can offer a solution. We want more constructive feedback though Mark, it makes for good discussion and a better podcast I hope.

      Thanks,

      Laurence

      • The Gaffer says:

        Not aware of a solution that would accomplish this, but I’ll keep my eye out for something that could do the trick. And if it can work, will post it here.

        Cheers,
        The Gaffer

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It finally came. It finally went. The United States versus England, and as if there was any way we would forget the result, Robert Green made sure to make Saturday’s match an inadvertent classic. On this show, Laurence McKenna, Kartik Krishnaiyer and myself discuss the results of that match, Argentina’s win over Nigeria, and South Korea’s win over Greece. We also look to Sunday, when Germany takes on Australia, Ghana and Serbia meet, and Slovenia and Algeria look to go first in Group C.

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