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Battle Of The Pods: The Guardian vs The Times

podcasts Battle Of The Pods: The Guardian vs The TimesIn the United Kingdom, the newspaper industry is extremely competitive. There are more than 11 national daily newspapers compared with just two in the US (USA Today and Christian Science Monitor).

While the competition in print is fierce, the UK newspapers are also waging war online with their respective web sites having made significant improvements over the past few years. Now the battle has moved to the podosphere where publishers are trying to win the hearts and minds (and ears) of their readers, which brings us to today’s topic: The competitive matchup between The Guardian‘s Football Weekly Podcast and The Game Podcast from The Times.

Football Weekly by The Guardian debuted on August 29, 2006 after the success of The World Cup Show Podcast that provided a daily round-up of news, hilarity and observations from The Guardian crew of James Richardson, Barry Glendenning, Sean Ingle, Kevin McCarra, Paul Doyle, Sid Lowe and others. The debut episode of The World Cup Show from May 11, 2006, can be heard here.

The Game Podcast from The Times, meanwhile, launched on September 18, 2006 after Gabriele Marcotti and Guillem Balague brought the idea to The Times (as was revealed in this past Sunday’s EPL Talk Podcast). Hosted by Danny Kelly (former editor of NME and founder of Football365), he’s regularly joined by Marcotti, Balague, Bill Edgar, and recently Alyson Rudd as well as a different weekly guest.

When I checked the popularity of the football podcasts on iTunes one week ago, The Guardian‘s Football Weekly was number one. But personally, I’ve found that the quality of the show has decreased during the past several weeks, while The Game Podcast has significantly improved (especially by dropping the sound effects feature, which was incredibly inane).

Don’t get me wrong. Both shows are quality. Football Weekly provides listeners with a journey through the top European leagues which is extremely informative. The Game Podcast focuses more on the Premiership but has been focusing more on the European leagues as of late. But the biggest difference between the two shows is content. The Game Podcast is more of a debate about topical issues in football, while Football Weekly serves as more of a football news show, keeping you up-to-date and sharing views about certain players or matches.

The Game Podcast is as its best when Marcotti and Balague are on-air debating. The two of them rarely agree on topics, but are both very articulate and knowledgeable about the game. Balague, especially, enjoys revealing stories from the inner circles of football particularly about bust-ups behind-the-scenes (for example, Thierry Henry and Arsene Wenger). Unfortunately, Balague has been absent from the show during the past few weeks presumably because he’s been so busy working in Spain.

Football Weekly, unfortunately, has become stale of late. I think part of the reason is because the show isn’t the same when Barry Glendenning isn’t as involved as he should be. His off-the-cuff comments and features on interesting angles of the sport (“Sun-der-land’s recent home movie, for example) are hilarious. James Richardson, despite being eloquent, gets a bit old after a while with his clever puns. The rest of the cast are very engaging, but the whole show seems to be in need of a refresh. The production quality hasn’t been the greatest lately. The mashup jingles for each segment have become trite and aren’t funny anymore. Overall, Football Weekly has become too predictable.

What’s needed more than anything is for Barry Glendenning to have his own show. The man is a comic genius and – what is often overlooked – has a very good football mind. A no-holds-barred show from Glendenning would be an incredible podcast. But is The Guardian brave enough to put Glendenning in charge?

At the end of the day, both The Guardian and The Times provide quality shows on a weekly basis that enhance the game of football. If you haven’t had a chance to listen to either one, subscribe today via their respective web sites or iTunes.

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About Christopher Harris

Founder and publisher of World Soccer Talk, Christopher Harris is the managing editor of the site. He has been interviewed by The New York Times, The Guardian and several other publications. Plus he has made appearances on NPR, BBC World, CBC, BBC Five Live, talkSPORT and beIN SPORT. Harris, who has lived in Florida since 1984, has supported Swansea City since 1979. He's also an expert on soccer in South Florida, and got engaged during half-time of a MLS game. Harris launched EPL Talk in 2005, which was rebranded as World Soccer Talk in 2013.
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5 Responses to Battle Of The Pods: The Guardian vs The Times

  1. Anonymous says:

    why aren’t the NY Times or The Washington Post considered national daily papers…even if one is based in NY and the other Washington, these papers are published nationally, and people all around the country read them daily…just wondering

  2. tyler says:

    I listen to both podcasts as well and I agree with many of your points. I think the points where guillem and gabriele are both on there may be the height of intelligent analysis.

    I would still, however, give an edge to the Guardian. I give that because every presenter be it James, Barry, Kevin, Paul, Sid Lowe, Marcela all add something. At the same time, I find Danny Kelly to be a wee bit obnoxious, Bill Edgar to be a bit of a fool, and Allyson just spouts stereotypes from 10 years ago.

    I agree about the call for more Barry. The problem is that a number of bloggers feel compelled to malign Barry at every turn, so I think they are reticent to turn over the keys to him. I also think because of that his enthusiasm for doing the pod has dwindled.

  3. Anonymous says:

    If Barry’s getting flack, maybe those of us that appreciate him should start asking for MORE BARRY!

    Personally, I strongly prefer the Guardian’s podcast. It fits in nicely after my top 3 of Soccer Shout, Arsecast and EPL Talk and nudges The Beautiful Game out of the way to claim 4th in the list. (I’m just tired of hearing the BG guys threaten to quit!)

  4. Amit says:

    the guardian podcast is far superior. it is funny and extremely informative at the same time. Marcotti is arrogant and just disagrees from the general consensus of any topic to provoke a reaction. The only area where The Game excels is with its premiership manager guest interviews

  5. Andy says:

    having been listening to both podcasts for the last 18 months or so I'd say that the Guardian effort is my favourite, informative, funny and entertaining. Their experts on the european leagues is great, Sid Lowe's input on La Liga , Rafa Honegstein's Bundeliga roundup and there was even the Eredivisie last week! I actually think that Barry Glendenning can sometimes be the Guardian's week spot as quite often his contributions only serve to deliberately wind up the supporters of a certain other north-east team rather than impart any insight.

    While Marcotti may be knowledgable and mostly a good listen his condescending demeanour towards those who disagree with him really puts me off. The game was brilliant when they got Frankn Skinner and David Baddiel to do their 2006 world cup podcasts, one of the funniest pods ever!

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